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00:01.00siriusyeah i definetly need opera
00:01.00siriuskonquerer-embedded has trouble with my web mail account
00:01.00siriusand doesnt work with yahoo either
00:01.16hvontres|poodlehmmm, that could be difficult in OZ...:( I think the softfloat/hardfolat thing might bite you there
00:01.25siriusdamn
00:01.37siriusare there any browsers available?
00:01.40siriusthat work
00:01.40hvontres|poodlecheck the oesf forums tho...
00:01.47hvontres|poodlelinks?
00:01.59siriusyeah might try links
00:02.11hvontres|poodlesince I don't have wifi for my Z, I don't do much browsing.
00:02.18blibbetlynx?
00:02.33siriuslinks is a better fork of lynx
00:02.36siriusimho
00:03.10blibbetthx, thought it was a typo...
00:03.53hvontres|poodleohh, and I run BitchX through ssh (right now actually)
00:04.35siriusi like irssi
00:06.00hvontres|poodleirssi is not in the feed atm...but I know the recipie is in OE...so if you feel adventerous, you can set up an OE evironment and roll you own. :)
00:08.53siriushmm k
00:12.44siriusi can do stuff like ipkg install bitchx xmms-embedded right?
00:12.48siriuslike in dpkg
00:12.57siriusas in chain install stuff
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00:16.44hvontres|poodlesirrius: yes
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00:19.33siriusi just installed a ton of stuff
00:19.50siriusbitchx, notez, opie-reader, wellenwrieter etc..
00:19.54siriusand kismet ;)
00:20.49siriuscrap
00:20.52siriusi tried to reboot and it hung
00:20.56siriushow do i power off?
00:24.42hvontres|poodleflip the battery switch, open the battery compartment and hit the little reset button with the stylus
00:25.36siriusnoo
00:25.41siriusthat will delete everything no?
00:27.44hvontres|poodlearen't you using a 64-0 kernel?
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00:44.58summatusmentishvontres|poodle, poodle is the 5500 right?
00:47.09hvontres|poodle~poodle
00:47.16ibotfrom memory, poodle is sl-5600/b500, or a dog
00:47.16hvontres|poodle~collie
00:47.17ibotsomebody said collie was sharp zaurus SL-5000 (often called SL-5000D because it was developer version) or SL-5500 (also SL-5500G with QWERTZ keyboard) or a dog
00:48.09summatusmentisok, thanks, are you using opie or gpe?
00:48.59hvontres|poodleopie...gpe in 32MB is just too painfull :(
00:51.20summatusmentisunderstandable, what is there for aim? what about word documents?
00:51.32summatusmentiscurrently I'm on GPE, but I want IRC available
00:52.17summatusmentiswhat software, that is...
00:52.24hvontres|poodlei think gaim runs on opie
00:53.02hvontres|poodlefor IRC, there is opie irc for the gui or bitchx for console/ssh (which is what I am using right now)
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01:06.32siriuscrpa i cant suspend my 5500 in 3.5.4
01:06.36siriusanyone know how to fix that?
01:14.00JustinPsirius: perhaps you shuld let us know what you're trying and how it's failing
01:14.58siriustrying to suspend using the Cancel Button
01:15.01siriusit fails and just hangs
01:15.10siriusbut interestingly it works fine when i select suspend via  amenu
01:15.11sirius*a menu
01:17.07JustinPthis is/was a known issue
01:17.12JustinPI thought it was fixed a while ago, though
01:17.16JustinPcheck the bug system
01:17.21JustinPbugs.openembedded.org
01:17.21siriusguess not
01:17.24siriusk
01:20.21siriusOZ is so nice though
01:20.34siriusi wish i could use opera though
01:20.35sirius:(
01:24.16JustinPyou can try....it's just going to crash someitmes
01:24.22siriushrmm k
01:24.48JustinPif you can even get it to run
01:25.00siriusdamn i cant find an email client
01:25.04siriusany suggestions?
01:25.44siriusnvm found one
01:25.58siriussorry if i ask too many questions
01:26.02siriusim new to the z
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02:31.26siriusnovaanyone know of any web browser that works on OZ 3.5.4 and doesnt suck like Konq?
02:31.28siriusnova:(
02:32.44JustinPfirefox
02:33.03siriusnovaJustinP - does it work on opie?
02:35.00JustinPsiriusnova: nope
02:35.16JustinPGPE is just as good as Opie and can run more useufl apps
02:35.18siriusnovaJustinP - what device do y ou have?
02:35.22siriusnovaI have an SL-5500
02:35.32JustinPC3000
02:35.40JustinPbut I ran GPE on a collie back in the say
02:35.44JustinPday
02:35.47siriusnovadoes it work well?
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02:42.25JustinPyeah, somewhat slow, but it's th eonly one that works as well as it does
02:42.36siriusnovahrmm k
02:42.59siriusnovai guess im flashing to gpe then
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03:46.14D4rklyhi does anyone know which java vm's work with OZ. the sun personal profile install reports: Qt does not appear to be installed ?
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04:11.12JustinPsun personal profile?
04:11.29JustinPonly packages in the OZ feeds will work with OZ
04:11.49JustinPthere are no java VMs in OE to my knowledge
04:18.47D4rklyis there any way i can make the installation think im running Qt ?
04:25.18JustinPinstall Opie?
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14:34.26CyorxampHey, I've got a 512mb CF and a 512mb SD card in my zaurus and i've got the choice of a zImage - whats my best option?
14:34.56Cyorxampp.s. Have done the OZ thing before but -this- time my zaurus is actually fully workin :P so it's been a while
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14:35.23JustinPCyorxamp: you have a collie? I aalways suggest 64-0
14:35.32Cyorxamp5500
14:35.45JustinP~collie
14:35.46ibot[collie] sharp zaurus SL-5000 (often called SL-5000D because it was developer version) or SL-5500 (also SL-5500G with QWERTZ keyboard) or a dog
14:35.52Cyorxampwell last I was on this site I saw something about installing the OS on the SD card so that I have more RAM
14:36.04JustinPCyorxamp: yes
14:36.13CyorxampSo which zImage is that one?
14:36.19JustinPCyorxamp: there's the hentges roms which are slightly altered OZ images
14:36.36Cyorxampwould that be my best option?
14:36.42JustinPCyorxamp: there's also just installing a bootstrap-image on flash and then installing a loopback image to SD with altboot
14:36.50JustinPCyorxamp: 64-0, as I said
14:36.56TuomasTI'm using Collie with 64-0 and I recommedent it. No more lost programs due to battery change etc
14:36.59TuomasTIs openzaurus.org down?
14:37.09Cyorxampyour not making any sense - when did the OZ site get so slow and shitty
14:37.27Cyorxampi would read up on things but it's so damn slow and half the info that was on there last time is missing
14:37.30JustinPCyorxamp: sometimes websites go down
14:39.41TuomasTWhat are the "ext2" versions of images for Collie OZ 3.5.4? (ext2 is a filesystem, but..)
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14:41.20JustinPnot sure
14:42.45CyorxampI'm not sure how 64-0 is gonna install the OS to the SD card
14:42.56CyorxampInfact I can't even find the original page that mentioned it
14:45.28Cyorxamp~hentges
14:45.42Cyorxamp~useless
14:45.43ibotACTION starts crying and hides from cyorxamp in the darkest corner of the room. :(
14:49.35TuomasTCan a bad zImage / initrd flash cause Zaurus to not be able to flash again? Or am I safe trying different images?
14:49.45TuomasTZaurus = Collie
15:00.57JustinPTuomasT: no, it shouldn't although it may be possible if it's too big
15:01.01JustinPCyorxamp: hentges.net
15:01.14CyorxampAlready there but I had to use google to get to certain pages on the domain
15:01.21CyorxampSeems like half the links are missing
15:01.25JustinPCyorxamp: 64-0 won't install anything to SD of course. It's just the one you should use.
15:01.26CyorxampFound cardfs and altboot
15:01.54JustinPCyorxamp: install the bootstrap image to flash, then put the tarball on your SD card and go to the altboot advanced menu and install it on a loopback image on SD
15:02.04JustinPaltboot is on our images automatically, btw
15:02.05CyorxampIf I use 64-0... isn't it the one that wont let me have space for new apps?
15:02.10JustinPNO
15:02.21JustinPit doesn't create a *ramdrive* for use as an FS
15:02.24Cyorxamp0 storage space
15:02.27JustinPNO
15:02.35Cyorxamplook your completely loosing me, and shouting at me
15:02.37JustinPyou still have all the normal flash
15:02.45Cyorxampforget it
15:02.53JustinPand besides, you want to install to SD, so....
15:03.06JustinPI'm trying to help, have a little tenacity
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15:03.26Cyorxampyour an ass from what I can see, swept up in your own superiority
15:04.07JustinPexcuse me?
15:04.53JustinPif you don't want help, don't ask for it
15:05.01JustinPas I said, I was only trying to help
15:05.12Cyorxamphey I said forget it and you kept yabbering away
15:05.14hrw|worksome people will never learn that others can help them..
15:05.17hrw|work~lart Cyorxamp
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15:09.23Cyorxampcardfs-gpe-collie-openzaurus_oz3.5.4.1-rc4-gpe2.7-T1.bin
15:10.07Cyorxamphentges-gpe-image-collie_T1.tar.gz
15:10.36Cyorxampis there a hentges channel - might that guy know what he means?
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15:12.18siriusnovaanyone here know how to play shoutcast streams on their zaurus?
15:12.27Cyorxampuse VLC
15:12.40siriusnovaCyorxamp - there is no vlc port for my zaurus
15:12.45siriusnovaSL-5500
15:12.47Cyorxamphas built in support for the on2 cocdecs, nsv, etc...
15:13.05Cyorxampsure there is... go to the VLC site... i've installed it on my 5500 before
15:13.22Cyorxampand if I can ever fucking work out how to flash this thing i'll be putting it back on
15:13.31siriusnovahrmm k
15:13.58siriusnovait needs gpe
15:14.01siriusnovaim using opie :/
15:14.11Cyorxampyeah I use gpe... as opie stinks
15:14.27siriusnovahmm k
15:14.36siriusnovawhats better about gpe?
15:14.44siriusnovaim debating wether to reflash to gpe
15:14.47Cyorxampa severe lack of anything QT
15:14.54CyorxampQT is evil
15:14.57siriusnovayeah thats a problem, but it is slower?
15:15.02Cyorxampnaah
15:15.03siriusnovaive had problems finding apps
15:15.11siriusnovamost of the stuff is really old
15:15.22siriusnovaxmms embedded crashes a ton too
15:15.24siriusnova:/
15:15.50Cyorxampwell u'll have vlc
15:15.50siriusnovatrue
15:16.06Cyorxampi still can't work out how the hell i'm suppose to flash this so it uses my SD card for storing the OS
15:16.26siriusnovawhich z?
15:16.33Cyorxampsame as yours
15:16.40siriusnovai flashed mine yesterday
15:16.44siriusnovaits not that hard
15:16.50siriusnovaim using a loop image
15:16.53siriusnovaon my SD
15:30.11siriusnovaalso mplayer on the 5500 and is borked
15:30.16siriusnovacrashes with libmad0 problems
15:30.35siriusnovampd?
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15:33.32JustinPmpd
15:53.52lardman~google mpd
15:54.16lardmanibot: wakey wakey
15:54.26lardmanhttp://www.musicpd.org/
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16:08.23siriusnovado you guys reccomend gpe or opie for more apps?
16:09.46hrwcheck by yourself
16:09.55hrwit depend what you need, what you like etc
16:11.39siriusnovathe gpe rom can run X apps right?
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17:56.28Kevin`hello?
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18:17.54meebeyisnt there a 2.6 kernel for tosa?
18:18.23JustinPyes
18:18.34meebeyI flashed using openzaurus 3.5.4 and its 2.4.18, when I bring the wlan interface up, khubd oopses the kernel
18:18.57meebeyJustinP: how can I install it? just like a normal package?
18:19.18meebeyhave to find out how to transfer it without wlan, probably usb...
18:19.56JustinPmeebey: 3.5.4? try 3.5.4.1 or 3.5.4.2 RC
18:22.03meebeyJustinP: I read they are not made for tosa
18:23.20hobbsmeebey: where did you read that? It obviously wasn't openzaurus.org :)
18:23.54JustinP.1 doesn't have a tosa package apparently, but .2 RC does
18:23.56JustinPhttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.2-test/rc2/
18:24.29meebeyhobbs: main page lists .1 "for c7x0, akita, spitz, borzoi, terrier"
18:24.39hobbsOZ 3.5.4.2-rc2 released
18:24.39hobbs<PROTECTED>
18:24.39hobbsThird version of OpenZaurus with 2.6 kernel support poodle (sl-5600) and tosa (sl-6000)
18:24.56meebeyhmmm release candidate...
18:25.23meebeyisnt it possible to upgrade by using packages?
18:25.34meebeyupgrading by flashing seems to be overkill
18:26.27hobbsnot to get a new kernel
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18:27.10meebeyhobbs: the kernel is on some special blockdevice that isn't accessable within the running system?
18:27.24hobbsmeebey: more or less
18:27.37meebey:)
18:28.41meebey"but machines are far more usable then they were under 2.4-crapix kernel."
18:28.42meebeyhehehee
18:29.03meebeys/then/than/ btw
18:29.43meebeythe kernel oops I see doesn't speak for it :)
18:30.08meebeysomeone got sl6000 wlan running with openzaurus 3.5.4?
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18:39.31mimecarhi
18:39.49meebeycould be a dumb question but how do I right-click?
18:40.02meebeyon the sharprom it was a long click
18:45.41alan|grevealt-click ?
18:45.58alan|grevenever used right click, though
18:46.14meebeyI added the light applet a second time
18:46.22meebeyso I want to remove it now using right-click
18:46.33meebeydo I need to push a button?
18:49.57JustinPlong press on the bar should do it I think...
18:50.22meebeyah
18:50.23meebeytrue :)
18:50.33meebeyI always tried long press on the light applet
18:50.34meebey:-P
18:50.36meebeythanks
18:53.28meebeywth 5MB memory for that simple clock applet?
18:53.30meebeythats bloaty :)
18:54.35meebeyoh busybosy shows vm size, that doesnt say much, *doh*
18:54.44meebeywondering why it has no rss column
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20:36.57meebeywhich directories in /home was created by openzaurus? I want to delete the old sharprom stuff
20:37.33hrwOZ does not touch /home
20:37.44meebeyah ok
20:37.50meebeyso only my home directory was created
20:38.09meebeysharp left alot of trash
20:38.20meebeywondering if they ever heard anything about FHS
20:39.10hrwyou are kidding?
20:39.55meebeyhrw: /home/etc /usr/mnt.rom and other funny things, no I am not kiddingf
20:40.09hrwmeebey: I know that sharp left crap in /home
20:40.21hrwI have c760, 6000, 5600, 5500 on desk here
20:40.26meebey:)
20:40.45meebeyso I will delete everything besides my home directory
20:41.02hrwremove also $HOME/Settings/qpe.conf
20:41.33meebeydoesnt exist
20:41.48meebeyhad no gpe on it before
21:00.44blibbeti have SL-6000L. what is best Z hardware (with English buttons) these days?
21:02.20hrwhardware or software?
21:02.32blibbetsorry, best Z hardware.
21:03.27blibbet"best" == any interesting new hardware features since the 6000L.
21:03.59hrwc3x00 maybe
21:04.16hrwpxa27x cpu (faster then one in 6000l)
21:04.21hrwmicrodrive built in
21:04.28hrwusbhost also present
21:04.33meebeymicrodrive? interesting
21:04.45hrwbut no Z can beat screen used in 6000...
21:08.10hrwcu
21:09.00blibbetscreen res is a good indicator, thanks for all the info.
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21:15.11D4rklyhi just out of interest has qtopia 2.2 been released or do i have to compile the source to test it ?
21:21.54JustinPblibbet: the resolution is the same but the screen on the 6000 is the best of any Zaurii. Also, the 6000 has built-in wifi.
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21:22.11TuomasTCan I make GPE image's package manager use proxy?
21:22.12JustinPblibbet: the 6000 also has a usb host IIRC
21:22.24JustinPblibbet: the C3x00 family, however, is a clamshell, larger keyboard, usb host, microdrive, and faster CPU
21:29.26meebeyTuomasT: /etc/ipkg.conf
21:39.48TuomasTaltboot seems nice. So I place gpe-image-3.5.4-collie.rootfs.ext2 where altboot wants it, and rename it from .ext2 to .bin and I get the choise in the menu?
21:39.52blibbeti have been thinking about trying to get that tiny USB thing to work on the 6000. either i have bad cables, or (i believe) i need to shave some of the metal down to get it to work.
21:51.10meebeyonly 485euro for the c3200, with a 6gb hdd? omg :)
21:51.22meebeyah wifi is missing...
21:52.25meebeyschouldn't ipkg create symlinks when I use a different destination than root?
21:52.37meebeyelse the application will not be usable, not finding the libs etc...
21:57.59CoreDump|homeTuomasT: -rootfs.bin IIRC
21:58.13CoreDump|homemeebey: that is handled by ipkg-link
21:58.33meebeyah ok, I will check that
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22:12.27meebeyCoreDump|home: worked, thanks
22:12.35CoreDump|homenp
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22:44.13TuomasTIs there a movie/music player in the GPE feeds?
22:45.15JustinPTuomasT: of course. vlc might be in there, mplayer, mpd
22:47.56TuomasTI had little luck with mplayer (the best) atleast fro 3.5.4 feed.. By the way, does the package system prevent installing OPIE programs in GPE?
22:49.14TuomasTAs if not, I see allkind of problems with installing programs avaible to both platforms. For example xmms.
22:49.40TuomasTHow to update the program icons without logging out & in ?
22:49.57hobbsTuomasT: but xmms doesn't run on opie, qxmms does ;)
22:50.05JustinPyou can install whatever you want. If you try to install an opie package, opie (or most of it) will be brought in, yes
22:50.07TuomasTThere was a button for that in Opie, but I'm not sure if there is one in GPE
22:50.12JustinPxmms-embedded does
22:50.39hobbsTuomasT: there isn't a problem because if the same thing runs on both systems, then fine, and if not, then there are two different packages
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23:09.25summatusmentisdoes anyone have gpe-irc working?
23:12.49TuomasTOh I wish I could use Gentoo's portage to install stuff into Z
23:17.09JustinPTuomasT: bitbake is a derivative of portage ;-)
23:17.55TuomasTYes I know. But I'm familiar with portage and it has very extensive collection of 'stuff
23:19.51TuomasTSomething like "emerge nano > zaurus" would make my day ;-)
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23:27.12TuomasTThen again, it is the fault of portage, that there is no inbuilt support for crosscompiling
23:40.57JustinPexactly
23:41.15JustinPand portage is mostly for building packages for immediate use on the same system, not for building distros
23:41.25JustinPbitbake is quite different now :-)
23:45.46TuomasTNo more waiting 10 minutes after each 'emerge' command before anything happens? :-)
23:48.42SpudULikeOn a C760, can I do a NAND flash restore from an SD card?
23:52.04TuomasTHelp: mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmad.so.0: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Error 14 (starting mplayer from 3.5.4 feed)
23:53.05TuomasTAnd justreader is broken too.. darn I miss 3.5.2 already. "justreader: symbol lookup error: justreader: undefined symbol: _2Qt.darkCyan"
23:56.07TuomasTApparently there is a working one in the feeds..
23:59.14TuomasTApparently the mplayer in 2.5.4 feed only works with 2.6.X kernels

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