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| 00:02.42 | siriusnova | hi anyone have problems with opie-mediaplayer2 pausing and starting constantly on their zaurus? |
| 00:03.08 | siriusnova | im using OZ 3.5.4 and trying to play a shoutcast stream, it eventually times out with demux plugin not found although i have all of them installed |
| 00:03.37 | siriusnova | also mplayer is broken |
| 00:04.02 | TuomasT | I never got opie-mediaplayer2 to work with OZ 3.5.2. Just trying out OZ 3.5.4, I'l try to install it. |
| 00:04.13 | TuomasT | Mplayer fails with libmad0 here |
| 00:04.17 | siriusnova | yes |
| 00:04.19 | siriusnova | same thing |
| 00:04.25 | siriusnova | it fails with libmad0 |
| 00:04.29 | TuomasT | Apparently it works only with 2.6.X kernels (from a forum) |
| 00:04.42 | TuomasT | Perhaps use mplayer ipk from 3.5.2 or 3.5.3 |
| 00:04.48 | siriusnova | all i want to do is play a shoutcast stream, its been impossible so far using Opiz/OZ |
| 00:04.51 | siriusnova | lol |
| 00:05.06 | siriusnova | xmms crashes, opie-player2 doesnt work |
| 00:05.08 | siriusnova | :/ |
| 00:05.13 | TuomasT | xmms-embedded works great here |
| 00:05.20 | siriusnova | for shoutcast streams? |
| 00:05.25 | siriusnova | it crashes when i load a pls |
| 00:05.43 | TuomasT | Ah, that I can't say. Give a link to .pls and I will try |
| 00:05.43 | siriusnova | actually it loads it just fine but crashes when i try to play it |
| 00:05.49 | siriusnova | ok |
| 00:05.53 | siriusnova | 1 sec |
| 00:06.28 | siriusnova | try this one http://shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=45&file=filename.pls |
| 00:06.36 | siriusnova | or any from shoutcast actually |
| 00:08.56 | TuomasT | Well loading the playlist as file did nothing and I currently have network on the Z only through proxy so I can't try the "URL" button. |
| 00:09.12 | TuomasT | I'l try to install mplayer from older feed. |
| 00:09.18 | siriusnova | k |
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| 00:10.32 | TuomasT | There isn't any GUI for mplayer for Opie as far as I know though. |
| 00:10.48 | siriusnova | thats fine |
| 00:11.03 | siriusnova | as long as it can play stuff |
| 00:11.55 | TuomasT | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.3/feed/opie/mplayer_1.0pre6a-r0_arm.ipk |
| 00:12.01 | TuomasT | There, install that, it works. |
| 00:12.06 | siriusnova | okay cool! |
| 00:12.07 | siriusnova | thanks |
| 00:14.03 | siriusnova | i need to figure out how to compile stuff for my z so im not stuck with feeds :( |
| 00:14.24 | siriusnova | damn i need libpostproc0 |
| 00:14.54 | TuomasT | The 3.5.4 feeds installed that and other packages for me automatically with that ^ .ipk |
| 00:15.07 | siriusnova | hrmm |
| 00:15.16 | TuomasT | Make sure you are up to date. "ipkg update" & "ipkg install "xxx.ipk" |
| 00:16.00 | siriusnova | heh |
| 00:18.17 | siriusnova | uhh |
| 00:18.21 | siriusnova | how do i get it to play the pls? |
| 00:18.30 | TuomasT | mplayer -playlist file.pls |
| 00:18.55 | siriusnova | hmm |
| 00:19.00 | siriusnova | im getting popping noises |
| 00:19.00 | siriusnova | :/ |
| 00:19.21 | TuomasT | Worked fine for me. Z 5500 Collie. |
| 00:20.07 | SpudULike | I am still worried about doing a NAND flash restore from SD card. I have a C760 with Cacko and want to move to OZ. Do I need to do the Nand restore and can I do it from an SD card? |
| 00:23.46 | siriusnova | TuomasT - what all did mplayer install? |
| 00:24.59 | TuomasT | Configuring libogg0 |
| 00:24.59 | TuomasT | Configuring libpostproc0 |
| 00:24.59 | TuomasT | Configuring libvorbis |
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| 00:46.09 | siriusnova | howdy |
| 00:46.20 | siriusnova | im remaking my root image on my SD card |
| 00:46.27 | siriusnova | hopefully i can get mplayer to work now |
| 00:46.47 | siriusnova | and hopefully the root image will actually work this time |
| 00:46.48 | siriusnova | lol |
| 00:48.43 | TuomasT | I suggest to you altboot and root images. What Z do you have? |
| 00:49.27 | siriusnova | 5500 |
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| 00:51.52 | TuomasT | Do this: First flash bootstrap-image-3.5.4-collie.initrd.bin in there with 64-0. Then put opie-image-3.5.4-collie.rootfs.ext2 in the SD card at /boot-images/opie-image-3.5.4-collie-rootfs.bin . Now you should be able to select the ext2 image when Z loads. |
| 00:52.10 | TuomasT | You probably already have a 3.5.4 installed in there so you can skip first step.. |
| 00:52.16 | siriusnova | yeah |
| 00:53.25 | TuomasT | Anyway that's what I did, except that I have gpe-image instead of bootstrap image as the one installed in the Z small internal storage. |
| 00:53.45 | TuomasT | You can also put both OPIE and GPE in there, and you get to choose which one to boot. |
| 00:54.52 | siriusnova | why bootstrap ? |
| 00:55.00 | siriusnova | instead of opie |
| 00:55.49 | TuomasT | Because it should take less space. If you boot from image, you will Never use the one installed in the Z storage for anything except booting.. |
| 00:55.57 | siriusnova | hrmm k |
| 00:56.57 | TuomasT | But don't bother to flash if you already have 3.5.4 in there.. |
| 00:57.24 | siriusnova | well how much if i reflash bootstrap |
| 00:57.27 | siriusnova | what difference do i get? |
| 00:57.33 | TuomasT | Don't ask me :-) |
| 00:57.34 | siriusnova | currently its flashed to opie-image |
| 00:57.36 | siriusnova | lol |
| 00:57.45 | TuomasT | That's just what I would do if I'd do it from the beginning. |
| 00:59.40 | TuomasT | Well actually now that I think about it, you can re-flash anytime with any of the images. |
| 00:59.49 | siriusnova | ill reflash to bootstrap |
| 00:59.51 | TuomasT | And still be able to boot from the image in the SD |
| 01:00.01 | siriusnova | as i have had problems with the opie-image |
| 01:00.05 | siriusnova | tyeah |
| 01:00.06 | siriusnova | *yeah |
| 01:00.17 | siriusnova | TuomasT - do you mind reposting that mplayer link? |
| 01:01.09 | TuomasT | You will find it in the official feeds at 3.5.3 and opie section |
| 01:05.12 | siriusnova | Konqueror embedded sucks thoug |
| 01:05.14 | siriusnova | *though |
| 01:05.22 | siriusnova | its an old version, i miss opera :( |
| 01:06.54 | TuomasT | It can be installed with OZ |
| 01:07.03 | siriusnova | it doesnt work TuomasT - i tried |
| 01:07.15 | siriusnova | i tried the link on the oz forums and it crashed |
| 01:07.28 | TuomasT | I've tried it and it did work atleast with 3.5.2. As did Sharp's java |
| 01:07.49 | siriusnova | if you get it to work with 3.5.4 do let me know |
| 01:08.01 | siriusnova | i would love to have opera working on OZ |
| 01:08.14 | TuomasT | I don't have use for browser so.. you can google for a solution. You need to ipkg install compat-libraries |
| 01:08.26 | siriusnova | hrmm |
| 01:08.40 | TuomasT | ~compat-libraries , I don't remember the exact name |
| 01:12.29 | siriusnova | dangit |
| 01:12.33 | siriusnova | it doesnt work for me Tuomas |
| 01:12.35 | siriusnova | mplayer |
| 01:12.45 | siriusnova | i get popping noises with mplayer -playlist shoutcast.pls |
| 01:13.10 | TuomasT | Perhaps you are using different .pls than you gave me? |
| 01:13.19 | siriusnova | which one are you using? |
| 01:13.44 | TuomasT | http://shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=45&file=filename.pls |
| 01:14.40 | TuomasT | You might also try 'xmms-embedded' and see if the sound is allright. Z seems to have pretty good quality headphone output. |
| 01:14.50 | siriusnova | TuomasT - you mind if i send you mplayer output in priv chat so you can see what the difference is |
| 01:15.02 | siriusnova | when you run mplayer and I run mplayer |
| 01:15.26 | TuomasT | ok |
| 01:16.45 | siriusnova | sent |
| 01:17.09 | TuomasT | Yours is using mp3lib, mine is using libmad |
| 01:17.47 | siriusnova | hrmm |
| 01:17.53 | siriusnova | how do i get it to use libmad? |
| 01:18.07 | TuomasT | Otherwise seems the same |
| 01:18.40 | TuomasT | Well, try to install it, perhaps it'l use it automatically |
| 01:19.11 | siriusnova | it is installed |
| 01:19.56 | TuomasT | Then you could also find and delete the mp3lib |
| 01:19.59 | siriusnova | there |
| 01:20.00 | siriusnova | it works now |
| 01:20.03 | siriusnova | YAY :D |
| 01:20.07 | siriusnova | awesome |
| 01:20.09 | siriusnova | im so happy :P |
| 01:20.16 | TuomasT | So what did you do? |
| 01:20.21 | siriusnova | -ac mad |
| 01:20.31 | TuomasT | Ah, of course. |
| 01:21.51 | siriusnova | now i have to reinstall all my apps |
| 01:21.51 | siriusnova | :X |
| 01:22.09 | siriusnova | time for kismet and everything else hehe |
| 01:22.54 | TuomasT | I use only JustReader, XMMS and mplayer :-) |
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| 01:47.54 | siriusnova | hrmm is there smbclient for zaurus? |
| 01:48.02 | siriusnova | or a way to mount smbshares? |
| 01:48.06 | siriusnova | without messing with samba |
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| 05:33.01 | siriusnova | anyone know how to increase the # of consoles in OZ/opie from 3 to 4 |
| 05:33.14 | Kevin` | etc/inittab |
| 05:33.16 | Kevin` | as any distro :) |
| 05:33.24 | siriusnova | ahh k |
| 05:33.26 | siriusnova | i forgot |
| 05:33.27 | siriusnova | ;) |
| 05:33.41 | siriusnova | how many are enabled by default 3? |
| 05:33.51 | Kevin` | iono, I changed it fairly quickly |
| 05:33.54 | siriusnova | and the opie menu shows me 9, anyway to disable the extra ones? |
| 05:33.56 | Kevin` | so it must have been few |
| 05:34.18 | Kevin` | what opie menu.. I use gpe |
| 05:34.36 | siriusnova | well using the launcher you can select a console to go down to |
| 05:34.39 | siriusnova | and it has 1-9 |
| 05:35.00 | siriusnova | yet only 3 are available so what happens is that if you select #4 and above it shows you a blank screen |
| 05:35.12 | Kevin` | could just be launchers that do 'chvt 1', 'chvt 2', etc |
| 05:35.14 | siriusnova | and since you cant type anything you cant type chvt |
| 05:35.23 | Kevin` | though I don't know where they would be listed |
| 05:35.25 | siriusnova | true but how do i edit them? |
| 05:35.33 | siriusnova | so they only show the ones i need |
| 05:35.35 | siriusnova | and not all 9 |
| 05:35.39 | Kevin` | siriusnova function+left |
| 05:35.40 | Kevin` | and right |
| 05:35.43 | Kevin` | to switch vt |
| 05:35.48 | siriusnova | doesnt work |
| 05:35.50 | siriusnova | i tried |
| 05:36.00 | Kevin` | well it should, heh |
| 05:36.11 | siriusnova | im using a 5500 |
| 05:36.22 | Kevin` | 3200 here |
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| 09:41.56 | foka | Hi all! I have a newbie question: I would like to customize the OpenZaurus boot logo by adding my fiancee's name beneath the cute Dino. Where should I start? Thanks in advance! :-) |
| 09:42.48 | foka | Should I look in u-boot or altboot or something else altogether? Thank you so much! :-) |
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| 09:53.07 | hrw|work | foka: you need to look into gpe-bootsplash as this contain images in readable/editable formats |
| 09:53.26 | hrw|work | oz-bootsplash which we use has images already transformed into non-editable (but faster) version |
| 10:02.30 | foka | hrw|work, Thank you very much! :-) Yes, I already got the oz-bootsplash part figured out by getting gqview to display a PNG and then dumping the content of /dev/fb0 to a .raw file. :-) |
| 10:03.11 | foka | hrw|work: What I would like to find out is how to edit the very first picture too, the picture that gets displayed before the altboot prompt. :-) |
| 10:03.42 | hrw|work | foka: ah.. kernel logo |
| 10:04.02 | hrw|work | foka: thats more work |
| 10:07.27 | foka | hrw|work: Hehe. I already fetched the repository with Monotone. Should I look at "bitbake linux" next? Or do I need to look at u-boot or altboot also? Is the kernel logo somewhere in there too? :-) |
| 10:07.55 | hrw|work | bitbake virtual/kernel |
| 10:08.07 | hrw|work | you want to change oz-logo patch |
| 10:15.28 | foka | hrw|work: Thank you so much! That's great help! Thanks a million! :-) |
| 10:21.25 | lardman | morning |
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| 11:06.11 | Pimpinella | hi |
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| 11:18.41 | Pimpinella | i?d like to configure an internet connection via usb. if i understood correctly i need an extra NIC if i want to use the bridging method? |
| 11:23.01 | Pimpinella | or can i also use an interface like eth1:0? |
| 11:23.17 | pgas | on linux? |
| 11:23.42 | pgas | you don't need another interface. just to configure forwarding |
| 11:25.01 | pgas | see http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Generic_%28USB%29 for instance |
| 11:25.21 | pgas | or another howto of this page : http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=Linux_Connectivity |
| 11:28.58 | Pimpinella | pgas: ty |
| 11:29.16 | pgas | np |
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| 13:07.51 | Pimpinella | is there a way of updating from 3.5.2 to 3.5.4 without having to flash (like network updating?) |
| 13:14.53 | pgas | no |
| 13:15.14 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 13:19.13 | hrw|work | Pimpinella: edit feeds to point to 3.5.4 |
| 13:19.13 | hrw|work | ipkg update;ipkg upgrade |
| 13:19.15 | hrw|work | pray |
| 13:19.49 | flux | will it upgrade the kernel too ? |
| 13:20.31 | hrw|work | no you need to flash kernel |
| 13:21.57 | flux | ok |
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| 13:51.40 | TuomasT | Plus 3.5.4 comes with altboot, which is very useful. |
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| 15:01.16 | Pimpinella | i?m sure opie-console supports some kind of history function, i didn?t find out how to use it though... |
| 15:01.23 | Pimpinella | can you help me? |
| 15:01.32 | hrw|work | console or shell? |
| 15:02.47 | Pimpinella | console |
| 15:03.00 | Pimpinella | how would it beused on shell? |
| 15:03.31 | hrw|work | opie-console it application which allow you to: 1. run shell, 2. run other console app, 3. connect via serial to other device |
| 15:03.47 | hrw|work | history thing is shell related |
| 15:04.01 | hrw|work | and default busybox does not keep history between sessions |
| 15:05.05 | Pimpinella | ok, but how about in session? there are no arrow keys that i would have found |
| 15:05.42 | hrw|work | your device has arrows |
| 15:05.52 | Pimpinella | "Command to execute" is /bin/sh btw. |
| 15:06.17 | hrw|work | but it if lack them then look in menu - one of them should open two rows keyboard on top of window |
| 15:07.34 | Pimpinella | hrw|work: in menu? |
| 15:09.01 | hrw|work | Pimpinella: ops |
| 15:09.13 | hrw|work | Pimpinella: on toolbar there should be 'F1' button/icon |
| 15:09.44 | hrw|work | icons: new tab, copy, paste, f1, fullscreen |
| 15:10.15 | Pimpinella | aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :) |
| 15:10.21 | Pimpinella | ty :) |
| 15:10.36 | hrw|work | np |
| 15:10.41 | hrw|work | you can edit it in prefs |
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| 15:32.15 | ufoz | hi, in gpe there is a screen rotation tool |
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| 15:34.38 | JustinP | ufoz: just press on the task bar and add the rotator applet |
| 15:40.42 | a7m2 | i use patched kernel(by hrw) on 3100 (oz-gpe) |
| 15:40.42 | a7m2 | i saw some message on using mplayer |
| 15:40.42 | a7m2 | it said |
| 15:40.42 | a7m2 | "Failed to open /dev/rtc: Device or resource busy ( it should be readable by the user) |
| 15:40.42 | a7m2 | and.. i can't here anything...(except some jitter) |
| 15:40.43 | a7m2 | what is the problem?? |
| 15:41.15 | hrw|work | there should be /dev/rtc -> /dec/rtc0 symlink.. |
| 15:41.37 | hrw|work | but if mplayer does not like that rtc then we cannot change it |
| 15:42.46 | a7m2 | there is /dev/rtc -> rtc0 |
| 15:43.37 | ufoz | is it possible to JustinP yupp, sorry was afk. no the question is, is it possible to change the rotation to the other side |
| 15:44.24 | ufoz | or/and if it is possible to start that in a script |
| 15:44.32 | flux | hello :) |
| 15:44.34 | ufoz | e.g. for games |
| 15:44.53 | ufoz | aha |
| 15:44.55 | ufoz | xrandr |
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| 18:48.58 | flux | i don't understand... since i reinstalled OZ GPE 3.5.4.1 on c3100, when i modprobe g_ether usbnet ; ifup usb0 |
| 18:49.04 | flux | i get an error : |
| 18:49.36 | flux | route :SIOC[ADD|DEL]: Network is unreachable |
| 18:49.49 | flux | does anyone ever saw it ? |
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| 18:54.10 | SpudULike | I have a C760 with Cacko and want to move to OZ. Do I need to do the Nand restore and can I do it from an SD card? |
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| 18:59.15 | flux | nevermind, i found my error |
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| 21:34.47 | siriusnova | lawl |
| 21:34.48 | siriusnova | sup |
| 21:35.05 | siriusnova | hey anyone awake? |
| 21:35.14 | hvontres|poodle | hey siriusnova. How's your Z doing? |
| 21:35.18 | siriusnova | its doing good |
| 21:35.20 | siriusnova | its awesome |
| 21:35.27 | siriusnova | just needs more battery life |
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| 21:36.05 | hvontres|poodle | I think there were some articles on the forum about higher capacity replacements |
| 21:36.57 | hvontres|poodle | flakey isp? |
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| 21:37.05 | siriusnova | hrmm |
| 21:37.12 | hvontres|poodle | flakey isp? |
| 21:37.23 | hvontres|poodle | I think there were some articles on the forum about higher capacity replacements |
| 21:37.23 | siriusnova | flakey next door neighbor's wifi :P |
| 21:37.54 | hvontres|poodle | heh... I remember that... Now I have DSL... not quite as fast, but always there :) |
| 21:37.56 | siriusnova | yeah i saw them, i have an AA battery pack that uses 4 NIMH AAs but it doesnt last very long |
| 21:38.51 | siriusnova | i think its because the wifi card draws too much power |
| 21:38.55 | siriusnova | or it could be a flakey battery pack |
| 21:39.20 | hvontres|poodle | ahh, wifi == short battery life :) |
| 21:39.58 | siriusnova | yes |
| 21:40.03 | siriusnova | but without a wifi card its useless |
| 21:40.20 | siriusnova | i mean i already have a palm pda for a pda |
| 21:40.25 | siriusnova | i use my z for "fun" stuff |
| 21:40.44 | siriusnova | stuff like kismet :P |
| 21:40.58 | hvontres|poodle | hmmm, but I think there were some replacements for the main battery that had ~double the capacity of the sharp ones. |
| 21:41.44 | hvontres|poodle | and there is always the "wall bug" :) (sort of deeats the purpose of having a "Personal Mobile Toy" tho...) |
| 21:42.03 | siriusnova | heh |
| 21:42.08 | siriusnova | ill make myself a battery pack |
| 21:42.25 | siriusnova | but its odd though as the battery pack i currently have doesnt seem to charge the pda that much |
| 21:42.29 | siriusnova | and it lasts like 1 hour tops |
| 21:42.35 | hvontres|poodle | just make sure you get the polarity right. |
| 21:42.58 | hvontres|poodle | well, the charging circuit needs ~5V iirc, and you are only giving it 4.8 |
| 21:43.52 | siriusnova | hrmm k |
| 21:43.56 | JustinP | I use a Li-ion battery pack which definately gives 5V |
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| 21:44.00 | JustinP | (and 2 other voltages) |
| 21:44.03 | JustinP | works very well |
| 21:44.04 | siriusnova | JustinP - which one? |
| 21:44.14 | siriusnova | or did you make it? |
| 21:44.23 | siriusnova | id be happy with an external pack |
| 21:44.24 | JustinP | http://www.bixnet.com/hicamiexbapa.html |
| 21:44.36 | hobbs | JustinP: of course it's doing that off of a boost convertor that's bringing it up from about 3.6-4.2 V |
| 21:44.41 | hobbs | JustinP: and has only a certain efficiency ;) |
| 21:44.47 | siriusnova | how long does it last? |
| 21:44.51 | hobbs | (either that or it's bucking down from twice as much) |
| 21:44.52 | JustinP | hobbs: of course, but it still works very well :-) |
| 21:45.01 | JustinP | also useful for powering a USB hub or USB HD |
| 21:45.21 | JustinP | siriusnova: eh....I haven't really timed it. It's rated at 22Wh |
| 21:45.21 | siriusnova | JustinP - how long does your 5500 last using the pack? |
| 21:45.24 | siriusnova | hrmm |
| 21:45.26 | JustinP | C3000 |
| 21:45.47 | JustinP | I use it to recharge my Z during the day sometimes |
| 21:45.58 | JustinP | also for powering while on wifi if I don't want to drain the battery |
| 21:46.06 | JustinP | (Z battery that is) |
| 21:46.11 | hobbs | JustinP: in any case, yeah, 22Wh isn't bad |
| 21:46.29 | siriusnova | hrmm |
| 21:46.53 | hobbs | JustinP: how heavy does it feel, carrying it around? |
| 21:47.11 | JustinP | I had one problem with it at one point after I overdrew it (plugged it into a laptop) but it was just some solder that had broken. Fixed up the joint and was good as new. |
| 21:48.06 | JustinP | it basically has 4AA Li-ion cells in it |
| 21:48.12 | JustinP | not too heavy |
| 21:48.22 | JustinP | about half the weight of my C3000, perhaps a little less |
| 21:48.28 | JustinP | less |
| 21:48.30 | JustinP | 1/3 maybe |
| 21:48.38 | JustinP | not that that helps you guys probably ;-) |
| 21:48.54 | JustinP | I really need to put up my list of preferred Z devices somewhere ;-) |
| 21:49.36 | JustinP | it also comes with a handy belt holster |
| 21:49.44 | JustinP | which I forgot about while getting in the car and broke... |
| 21:49.48 | siriusnova | hmm |
| 21:49.54 | JustinP | worked very nicely before that, though ;-) |
| 21:51.00 | JustinP | this other one on their site might be easier to use with a Z as it's flatter: http://www.bixnet.com/5v7libapa.html |
| 21:51.08 | JustinP | more Wh as well |
| 21:51.12 | JustinP | but only 5V |
| 21:51.19 | JustinP | (which is ok for Z + USB) |
| 21:51.33 | hobbs | shiny |
| 21:51.40 | siriusnova | hmm |
| 21:51.49 | JustinP | hmmm...also 7.4V output |
| 21:51.56 | JustinP | so only 1 voltage down from the PM85 |
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| 21:54.29 | siriusnova | ill check ebay |
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| 22:04.50 | mimecar | hi |
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