| 00:14.33 | starkruzr | Has anyone had their C1000/3x00's CF slot just stop working after upgrading to the release version of OZ 3.5.4.1? |
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| 02:19.28 | siriusnova | hey |
| 02:19.30 | siriusnova | :D |
| 02:20.27 | siriusnova | hrm |
| 02:24.47 | siriusnova | im compiling irssi for my Z |
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| 03:12.38 | siriusnova | hello |
| 03:12.47 | siriusnova | anyone want to help me to compile irssi on my zaurus? |
| 03:14.14 | siriusnova | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.18 | siriusnova | is what i get when i try to compile irssi |
| 03:23.24 | Kevin` | anyone here know when OZ 2.6 iptables modules will be available? |
| 03:30.38 | siriusnova | imho there needs to be a build-essential package that installs all the stuff required for building ON the zaurus |
| 03:30.49 | siriusnova | finding stuff one by one is tedious :/ |
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| 06:34.47 | hrw|gone | Kevin`: try kernel-update which I sent to oz-users/devel recently |
| 06:35.14 | Kevin` | oz-users/devel? |
| 06:38.07 | Kevin` | i'm a linux person, not much familiar with oe/oz devel yet :) |
| 06:40.09 | hrw|gone | openzaurus-users openzaurus-devel mailing lists |
| 06:40.13 | hrw | morning |
| 06:40.18 | Kevin` | ah |
| 06:40.24 | pgas | hello hrw |
| 06:40.29 | Kevin` | should probably subscribe to those :) |
| 06:40.45 | hrw | and I have to write sad mail to those |
| 06:41.14 | pgas | ? |
| 06:41.30 | hrw | ewi546 is going to other tasks |
| 06:41.38 | Kevin` | ok, found what your talking about.. now to find a CF card |
| 06:43.39 | pgas | it was the server on which you build oz? |
| 06:43.58 | hrw | build, host feeds |
| 06:44.40 | Kevin` | hrw can I write the new kernel from OZ? |
| 06:44.48 | hrw | Kevin`: no - need to flash it |
| 06:45.24 | Kevin` | so I have to use the original flashing stuff.. nothing in oz normally to do this yet? |
| 06:45.38 | hrw | nothing |
| 06:45.41 | Kevin` | k |
| 06:48.06 | Kevin` | hm where's that little program to compress/uncompress updater.sh? |
| 06:48.25 | hrw | not (un)compress but (de)crypt rather |
| 06:48.33 | hrw | its in OE |
| 06:48.39 | Kevin` | well it ends up smaller no? :) |
| 06:48.51 | hrw | never looked |
| 06:49.13 | Kevin` | hm I just assumed that.. i'll look when I find it.. have the .c file somewher |
| 06:52.40 | Kevin` | heh, exactly the same size |
| 06:52.41 | Kevin` | oh well |
| 06:55.48 | pgas | yeah it just rotate the chars |
| 06:56.20 | Kevin` | I thought it did something useful like convert common function names to a char |
| 06:56.33 | Kevin` | happen to know if it's binary safe? |
| 06:57.24 | hrw | ~blame sharp for that trick |
| 06:57.31 | ibot | ACTION blames gw280 and perhaps sharp for that trick and all the evil in the world |
| 06:58.45 | Kevin` | anything I should know before I reboot and apply the kernel? :) |
| 06:59.02 | hrw | everything should work as it was (or better) |
| 06:59.15 | Kevin` | good to know, heh :) |
| 07:01.38 | Kevin` | hmm the ok menu isn't working, odd |
| 07:05.56 | Kevin` | booting.. |
| 07:07.25 | hrw | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21597 |
| 07:09.17 | hrw | cu |
| 07:09.20 | Kevin` | well it seems to be working, i'll tell you if I have any problems |
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| 07:58.22 | foka | Hi again! I have yet another newbie question: How do I upgrade _just_ the kernel in OpenZaurus? Do I need to flash it with updater.sh + zImage.bin? Or just ipkg install? Many thanks! :-) |
| 07:58.48 | Kevin` | updater.sh and zImage.bin |
| 07:58.52 | hrw|work | flash |
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| 08:00.32 | foka | Kevin`: Many thanks! :-) |
| 08:00.37 | foka | hrw|work, Many thanks again! :-) |
| 08:00.43 | hrw|work | np |
| 08:00.52 | Kevin` | np |
| 08:16.09 | foka | BTW, just a small note: I did this on Debian unstable (i386), and had to upgrade qemu-0.8.1 to qemu-0.8.2 to avoid an error while compiling syscall.c / signals.c. (Which you probably know already.) Other than that (and that I used monotone-0.30 (needed to migrate and regenerate_roster)), the bitbake process was very smooth. Thank you so much! :) |
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| 09:22.36 | ufoz | hi all. could anybody tell me what i need to cross compile for arm arch ? |
| 09:23.46 | hrw | cross toolchain |
| 09:24.10 | hrw | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/sdk/ - grab sdk archive |
| 09:24.56 | ufoz | ah i see |
| 09:25.11 | ufoz | well, then i will need some libs i think |
| 09:25.21 | ufoz | like sdl, ncurses ... |
| 09:25.46 | hrw | I would just use OE |
| 09:26.41 | ufoz | i mean devel versions |
| 09:27.43 | ufoz | well i was able to compile some ncurses stuff in the past. 1 year ago. |
| 09:28.14 | ufoz | but i cant remeber how i got the libs. i will have to compile the sources with the arm toolchain ? |
| 09:28.23 | hrw | yes |
| 09:28.39 | hrw | you can also try to reuse OZ packages for it |
| 09:28.48 | ufoz | ah i see |
| 09:28.50 | hrw | but then it will be easier to use OE probably |
| 09:29.06 | ufoz | what you mean it would be easier to use OE ? |
| 09:29.32 | hrw | OE as OpenEmbedded |
| 09:29.55 | hrw | it takes most of crosscompilation problems out |
| 09:30.13 | ufoz | if i use the OZ libs ? |
| 09:31.11 | hrw | OE is used to build OZ |
| 09:31.48 | ufoz | then i would neede another toolchain ? |
| 09:32.12 | ufoz | sorry i am new to cross compile, i mean i cross comiled some things to windows |
| 09:32.31 | ufoz | but another platform is not so easy |
| 09:33.18 | hrw | OE build everything needed |
| 09:33.30 | hrw | crosstoolchain, needed tools, libs |
| 09:34.21 | ufoz | hmmm |
| 09:34.44 | hrw | how to build lgeneral (sdl game): "bitbake lgeneral" |
| 09:34.55 | hrw | it will build toolchain, sdl, lgeneral |
| 09:35.27 | ufoz | i want to build the new version of scummvm |
| 09:35.41 | ufoz | the in oz is 0.61, the new one is 0.9 |
| 09:36.07 | hrw | OE has 0.9 - I just lack time to rebuild it |
| 09:36.46 | ufoz | well, now i learnd. OE is used to build stuff for arm. OZ is builded with OE. |
| 09:41.28 | ufoz | k, i am installing OE now |
| 09:41.55 | hrw | Oe is used to build stuff for arm/sh3/sh4/x86/powerpc/mips/... |
| 09:45.34 | hrw | ufoz: want to test scummvm 0.9.0 on oz? |
| 09:45.59 | hrw | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4x-experimental/scummvm_0.9.0-r0_arm.ipk |
| 09:47.49 | ufoz | kewl |
| 09:47.52 | ufoz | i will try it |
| 09:54.49 | ufoz | well |
| 09:54.56 | ufoz | it started |
| 09:55.24 | ufoz | but i think that i cannot change the resolution |
| 09:55.35 | ufoz | scummvm -g normal worked with the old version |
| 09:55.48 | hrw | I'm not familiar with scummvm |
| 09:55.53 | ufoz | np |
| 09:55.58 | ufoz | uhm |
| 09:56.06 | ufoz | how you compiled that ? |
| 09:56.15 | ufoz | i just starting to install OE |
| 09:56.21 | ufoz | then i will try that out |
| 09:57.24 | hrw | with OE |
| 10:46.19 | ufoz | hrw, thank alot |
| 10:46.34 | ufoz | it works fine now. |
| 10:48.38 | hrw | scummbm? |
| 10:51.34 | ufoz | yeah, they changed alot in the new scummvm version. espaciialy the resolution scaler |
| 10:51.46 | ufoz | now it works perfektly and ist realy faster |
| 10:52.02 | ufoz | no i am installing OE |
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| 11:05.50 | tobb_ | I've built a gpe-image with bitbake, and I can find the zimage & updater.sh, but no initrd, should I use the gpe-image-xxxx.rootfs.img as the initrd? |
| 11:06.41 | hrw | yes |
| 11:07.53 | ufoz | well, i installed monotone 30, and if i start to use it, it tells me that i have to migrate |
| 11:10.11 | foka | ufoz, Yes. :-) |
| 11:10.23 | ufoz | ;) |
| 11:10.31 | ufoz | but i dont know what i do wrong |
| 11:10.37 | foka | ufoz, Migrate, then regenerate_roster. the regenerate_roster part takes several hours on my older machine. |
| 11:11.17 | foka | ufoz, Nothing wrong. There is probably some changes between Monotone 0.28 (on the OE server) and Monotone 0.30, so you need to migrate the Monotone DB. |
| 11:12.13 | ufoz | ah okay. |
| 11:12.17 | ufoz | i will try out that |
| 11:13.35 | hrw | http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ has database for 0.30 |
| 11:13.43 | hrw | fetch it instead of migrating |
| 11:15.20 | ufoz | kewl |
| 11:24.02 | tobb_ | I get these jffs2 errors when booting my image: Magic bitmask 0x1985 not found..., any quick fix for this? |
| 11:24.21 | hrw | yes - ignore them |
| 11:24.48 | tobb_ | but they don't stop |
| 11:24.56 | tobb_ | it's been scrolling for a few minutes |
| 11:28.26 | tobb_ | what's the difference between the rootfs.summary.img and roots.img ? |
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| 11:29.16 | hrw | summary one can be mounted faster then normal |
| 11:29.20 | hrw | but use more flash iirc |
| 11:47.54 | ufoz | can i use 2.6 kernel with my sharp zaurus 5500g |
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| 11:49.35 | hrw | you can but it is not too usable |
| 11:49.41 | hrw | lack of sd/mmc support |
| 11:51.01 | ufoz | hrw, do i need the kernel if i just want to build something like frozen bubble |
| 11:51.02 | ufoz | ? |
| 11:51.15 | hrw | ufoz: you build from scratch? |
| 11:51.27 | wazp | what i need to do in order to use usb mouse in opie? |
| 11:52.14 | ufoz | i am isntalling OE. and the tell me i need a local configuration http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted#settingupthetoolchainanddoingabuild |
| 11:52.23 | ufoz | but my zaurus is running good with OZ |
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| 13:11.34 | ufoz | hrw, |
| 13:11.36 | ufoz | ;) |
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| 13:22.36 | siriusnova | howdy |
| 13:23.09 | hrw | do |
| 13:24.26 | siriusnova | hrw - im going to set up a cross compiling environment to compile apps for my z |
| 13:24.35 | siriusnova | but i have never cross compiled apps before |
| 13:24.41 | siriusnova | heh |
| 13:24.45 | hrw | I would use OpenEmbedded |
| 13:24.58 | siriusnova | i dont know where to even begin |
| 13:25.09 | siriusnova | i just want to compile a bunch of console apps |
| 13:25.13 | siriusnova | like irssi etc.. |
| 13:25.38 | siriusnova | any ideas? |
| 13:26.31 | hrw | I use only OE to build stuff |
| 13:26.37 | hrw | then its 'bitbake irssi' |
| 13:27.06 | siriusnova | hrmm |
| 13:27.38 | siriusnova | so if i just download the irssi source, extract to a directory and run bitbake irssi it will compile automagically? |
| 13:28.14 | hrw | no - bitbake do it all |
| 13:28.24 | siriusnova | yes thatas what i mean, bitbake will do everything? |
| 13:28.30 | hrw | its a bit complicated to explain it quickly |
| 13:28.31 | hrw | yes |
| 13:28.43 | siriusnova | hrmm |
| 13:28.46 | hrw | OE use bitbake to build anything (which is in metadata) |
| 13:28.51 | siriusnova | is it hard to set up oe? |
| 13:29.22 | hrw | hmm.. good questioon. for me it is easy but I use OE for over 2 years |
| 13:29.37 | siriusnova | heh |
| 13:29.57 | siriusnova | im going to go reinstall ubuntu and ill be back later in the day, i could use your help setting up the environment |
| 13:30.24 | siriusnova | im going to compile irssi, kismet and see if i can try to compile a newer version of konqueror |
| 13:34.53 | hrw | for which OZ release? |
| 13:34.56 | siriusnova | 3.5.4 |
| 13:35.05 | siriusnova | i have an SL-5500 |
| 13:35.42 | hrw | I'm building now newest kismet |
| 13:36.12 | siriusnova | can you build irssi too? :) |
| 13:36.25 | siriusnova | well im going to set up oe anyway |
| 13:36.30 | siriusnova | might as well learn how to do it |
| 13:37.53 | ufoz | siriusnova, i am installing it atm |
| 13:38.06 | ufoz | i am nearly finsihed |
| 13:38.16 | ufoz | but i still have a question to hrw ;) |
| 13:39.07 | ufoz | i need a local.conf but hmm |
| 13:39.19 | hrw | ufoz: examples are provided |
| 13:39.39 | ufoz | do i need the one for OZ ? |
| 13:39.58 | hrw | you use .oz354x or .dev? |
| 13:40.06 | ufoz | 354 |
| 13:41.03 | hrw | look in conf/ dir |
| 13:41.42 | siriusnova | hmmm hrw - konqueror-embedded_20060404.bb |
| 13:41.46 | siriusnova | new konqueror! |
| 13:42.03 | siriusnova | or not |
| 13:42.05 | siriusnova | :/ |
| 13:42.05 | hrw | siriusnova: it need many changes |
| 13:42.12 | hrw | which are not in .oz354x |
| 13:42.14 | siriusnova | yes i guess it does |
| 13:42.19 | siriusnova | hrmm |
| 13:43.55 | siriusnova | so i should ise .oz354x instead of .dev ? |
| 13:44.06 | siriusnova | or will .dev work ocassionally for just console stuff |
| 13:44.12 | siriusnova | *ise=use |
| 13:44.58 | hrw | if want for OZ then use .oz354x |
| 13:45.01 | ufoz | well, i think i will give that up |
| 13:45.12 | ufoz | i have alot of error in my local.conf |
| 13:45.21 | hrw | ufoz: pastebin it |
| 13:45.23 | hrw | ~pastebin |
| 13:45.25 | ibot | pastebin is, like, a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ (BROKEN AND SUCKING NUTS), or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/, or http://paste.lisp.org/ for the lisp/scheme nuts, or http://paste-it.net |
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| 13:48.29 | ufoz | http://paste.lisp.org/display/27028 @ hrw |
| 13:50.57 | hrw|work | ufoz: echo $BBPATH;echo $PATH |
| 13:52.26 | ufoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.43 | ufoz | that should be okay i think |
| 13:52.44 | hrw|work | thats PATH |
| 13:52.49 | hrw|work | what is BBPATH? |
| 13:52.54 | ufoz | oh |
| 13:53.21 | ufoz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:55.47 | siriusnova | ok i gotta go |
| 13:56.07 | siriusnova | ill be back later and ill be setting up OE |
| 13:56.11 | siriusnova | :) |
| 13:56.42 | hrw|work | ufoz: hm. should work |
| 14:00.57 | ufoz | hmm, dont know if i have to make the oz or dev |
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| 14:11.23 | ufoz | ah k |
| 14:11.24 | ufoz | i got it |
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| 14:21.33 | ufoz | but this takes alot of time |
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| 14:33.30 | tobb_ | is sound supposed to work with 2.6.18 and a c860? |
| 14:35.10 | hrw|work | you booted 2.6.18? |
| 14:35.37 | tobb_ | hmm yea, thats the one in .dev right? |
| 14:37.54 | hrw|work | it is |
| 14:38.39 | hrw|work | I added it, and we updated it to be buildable but I do not know does anyone booted it |
| 14:38.55 | tobb_ | ookey |
| 14:40.27 | tobb_ | so... is it ok to use the oz354x images but build packages from the .dev tree and install them? |
| 14:41.13 | hrw|work | not supported it is but possible for some stuff |
| 14:42.45 | tobb_ | or is it possible to build the .dev tree with 2.6.16 instead? |
| 14:43.23 | ufoz | oh, i use OZ and now i want build with OE. so i will not be able to use it on my OZ ?? |
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| 14:46.46 | hrw|work | tobb_: you can build any kernel 2.6.{16,17,18} and OZ 3.5.4.1 will work with it |
| 14:47.11 | hrw|work | ufoz: if you will use .oz354x branch then your packages will be compatible with oz 3.5.4.1/2 |
| 14:47.36 | tobb_ | hrw|work: ok but how/where do I choose kernelversion |
| 14:48.23 | ufoz | but then i will have to download that from openzaurus ? |
| 14:49.23 | hrw|work | tobb_: PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-openzaurus = "VERSION" in local.conf |
| 14:49.42 | tobb_ | hrw|work: thanks alot |
| 14:50.45 | wsuetholz | has anybody seen/added the Marvell 8k "Libertas" driver that the OLPC folks are developing? |
| 15:08.22 | hvontres|poodle | hrw|work: will there be an update to the ipkg.conf file available or do we need to fix that manualy when ewi finaly goes down? |
| 15:09.41 | hrw|work | hvontres|poodle: those files are not covered by any package iirc |
| 15:09.45 | ufoz | i am still confused. i can use the OE branch and the OZ branch. if i try the first, it tries to compile |
| 15:10.25 | ufoz | if i use OZ, i got faulier about wrong DISTRO or unknown TARGET |
| 15:11.09 | hrw|work | both branches has other distros |
| 15:11.23 | hrw|work | if you use proper distro and proper branch then it will work |
| 15:11.39 | ufoz | yes, the first works. i downloaded OZ 3.5.4 |
| 15:11.42 | ufoz | without any sub version |
| 15:11.49 | ufoz | so what i havge to setup in local.conf |
| 15:18.36 | hrw|work | 1. grab org.openembedded.oz354x branch |
| 15:18.38 | tobb_ | I've built images with .dev, but there's no altboot in them, any way to turn it on? |
| 15:18.48 | hrw|work | 2. use conf/local.conf-openzaurus-3.5.4.1 |
| 15:18.51 | hrw|work | 3. build |
| 15:19.19 | hrw|work | tobb_: ipkg install altboot? |
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| 15:19.34 | tobb_ | hrw|work: that easy? :) |
| 15:19.53 | hrw|work | sure |
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| 16:56.21 | Pimpinella | are there any requirements to the CF card for flashing a collie except that it?s formated with FAT16 ? |
| 17:36.21 | Pimpinella | however flashingkeeps failing |
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| 17:38.26 | ufoz | humm, is it possible to use distcc with bitbake ? |
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| 19:51.26 | YoG | hi hrw |
| 19:53.13 | hrw | yo yog |
| 19:53.47 | YoG | just installed the new scummvm |
| 19:53.57 | YoG | thanx for compiling the new one |
| 19:54.20 | hrw | someone updated it in OE so I added it |
| 19:54.24 | YoG | though... I have several problems with it |
| 19:54.32 | YoG | oh |
| 19:54.47 | YoG | so I guess your not the address for bugs? |
| 19:55.17 | hrw | we have bugtracker |
| 19:55.31 | YoG | the bug is in the bugtracker |
| 19:55.43 | YoG | quite a while now... |
| 19:55.46 | YoG | :( |
| 19:55.50 | hrw | ;( |
| 19:56.01 | hrw | lack of BSP will get discussed on OEDEM |
| 19:56.09 | YoG | ? |
| 19:56.26 | hrw | oedem = OpenEmbedded Developer European Meeting |
| 19:56.33 | YoG | and BSP? |
| 19:56.35 | hrw | next friday/saturday |
| 19:56.40 | hrw | Bug Squashing Party |
| 19:56.56 | YoG | sounds like fun |
| 19:57.00 | YoG | :) |
| 19:59.21 | hvontres|poodle | maybe we should have an OEDAM sometime...:) |
| 19:59.34 | hobbs | who would come? ;) |
| 19:59.52 | YoG | btw, about the end of ewi... can't we use bitorrent? |
| 20:00.02 | hvontres|poodle | dunno, who is using OE on this side of the pond? |
| 20:00.18 | YoG | what side is that? |
| 20:00.44 | hvontres|poodle | we can't let those guys in the old world have all the fun :) |
| 20:00.53 | hobbs | hvontres|poodle: using, a decent bunch of people, but who's _working_ on it from over here? Hardly anyone afaics |
| 20:01.27 | hrw | there are OE devels/users in americas, asia |
| 20:01.47 | hrw | YoG: we have mirrors |
| 20:02.08 | hrw | YoG: but we will not have primary mirror from which other will be able to sync |
| 20:02.10 | YoG | yes, I know, you asked about thoughts... so heres a thought |
| 20:02.11 | hvontres|poodle | well... using and working on it are kinda related... |
| 20:02.32 | YoG | ah |
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| 20:26.29 | siriusnova | howdy |
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| 20:45.44 | meebey | I think I will give OZ 3.5.4.2-rc2 a try, I dont like rc usually, but the suspend/resume is not working good with 3.5.4 on tosa (with that crapix kernel) |
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| 20:46.00 | meebey | the software is great though, good work! I love GPE :) |
| 20:46.30 | hrw | you will love 2.6 |
| 20:46.45 | meebey | :) |
| 20:47.10 | hrw | BIG difference |
| 20:48.03 | meebey | I bet |
| 20:48.12 | meebey | is it using NPTL? |
| 20:48.22 | hrw | OZ does not use ntpl |
| 20:48.37 | meebey | problem with the software or hardware? |
| 20:48.53 | hrw | ntpl == 2.6 only - right? |
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| 20:49.03 | meebey | yes |
| 20:49.17 | hrw | and OZ has 2.4 machines |
| 20:49.34 | meebey | well you can have a 2 libc on the system |
| 20:49.41 | meebey | one for NPTL one without |
| 20:49.50 | meebey | at least that works on debian |
| 20:49.50 | YoG | good night all |
| 20:50.02 | hrw | but we do not do that in OZ |
| 20:50.09 | meebey | ok :) |
| 20:50.22 | meebey | threading overhead is probably not a big problem for OZ anyhow |
| 20:50.34 | hobbs | yeah really, how many threads are you going to throw at a zaurus/ |
| 20:50.45 | meebey | 0:) |
| 20:51.53 | meebey | I should blog about the crazy stuff I am doing on my zaurus, running mono and gtk# on it |
| 20:52.33 | meebey | the processor is powerful enough to run a virtual machine without too much problems |
| 20:53.15 | meebey | can I flash using ext2? I would like to not re-format my sdcard again |
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| 20:54.40 | hrw | meebey: you can |
| 20:54.49 | meebey | oh sexy |
| 20:54.54 | meebey | I will try that :) |
| 20:55.44 | meebey | the tosa has 64MB memory and a separat 64MB flash for storing data, right? its not shared? |
| 20:55.50 | hrw | yep |
| 20:55.58 | meebey | ok good |
| 20:56.13 | hrw | there are tosa with 128M flash |
| 20:56.16 | hrw | developer ones |
| 20:56.17 | meebey | I had the feeling that installing applications reduced free memory |
| 20:56.33 | meebey | the internal flash is crappy slow btw I made a test |
| 20:56.46 | meebey | my sdcard goes 450KB/s writing, 250KB/s using ext2 |
| 20:57.07 | hrw | on flash you use jffs2 which do compression |
| 20:57.26 | meebey | I dont like that btw :) |
| 20:57.33 | meebey | can I tell jffs2 to not compress? |
| 20:57.48 | hrw | no |
| 20:57.51 | hrw | iirc |
| 20:58.06 | meebey | I checked the source some time ago, and couldnt find a way to disable it |
| 20:58.11 | meebey | at least not without patching |
| 20:58.57 | meebey | I will get a CF soon, that will give me 10MB/s, that will speeeed up my slowly I/Os |
| 20:59.29 | hrw | cf interface is not so fast |
| 20:59.33 | hrw | iirc |
| 20:59.45 | meebey | hm will see |
| 20:59.50 | hrw | yep |
| 20:59.56 | hrw | I have only slow cards |
| 21:00.06 | meebey | slow CF cards? or SD |
| 21:00.11 | hrw | both |
| 21:00.21 | meebey | whats you fastest one? |
| 21:00.22 | meebey | +r |
| 21:00.28 | hrw | did not checked |
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| 21:00.54 | hrw | 2 CF (16, 256), 1 MMC (16), 1 MS Duo (64), 4 SD (64, 256, 512, 1024) |
| 21:02.22 | meebey | wow CF cards up to 4GB |
| 21:02.23 | meebey | omg |
| 21:02.39 | hobbs | 8 actually |
| 21:02.43 | meebey | so I got an expensive ipod, weeee |
| 21:03.24 | hrw | CF are up to 16GB now |
| 21:03.45 | meebey | wow |
| 21:04.02 | meebey | CF is pure memory right? |
| 21:04.25 | hrw | CF memory cards are flash |
| 21:04.35 | meebey | does that use much power? |
| 21:04.50 | meebey | different sizes or compared to sdcard |
| 21:05.04 | hrw | sdcards are also flash based |
| 21:05.13 | hrw | other chips and thats all |
| 21:38.14 | siriusnova | hey hrw |
| 21:38.19 | siriusnova | did you compile irssi? |
| 21:38.20 | siriusnova | ;) |
| 21:38.29 | hrw | no |
| 21:38.31 | siriusnova | :( |
| 21:39.16 | siriusnova | is the feed in the default config file the only feed available |
| 21:39.27 | siriusnova | like are there more feeds like there are different repositories |
| 21:39.36 | siriusnova | for ubuntu / debian etc.. |
| 21:39.58 | hrw | I do not care about unofficial feeds |
| 21:43.48 | hvontres|poodle | siriusnova: I will be home later tonight. I have Irssi built for oz 3.5.4x at home. |
| 21:44.04 | siriusnova | hvontress - cool |
| 21:44.29 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: The irssi.bb from .dev worked right out of the box in oz354x |
| 21:45.53 | hrw | sure |
| 21:46.04 | hrw | but it need update od description |
| 21:46.36 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: od ????? |
| 21:46.42 | hrw | of |
| 21:47.17 | hrw | cu |
| 21:47.22 | hvontres|poodle | hrw|gone: I can look into that |
| 21:51.11 | hvontres|poodle | siriusnova: where are you located? |
| 21:52.54 | meebey | there is no way to reboot from GPE; right? |
| 21:55.30 | hvontres|poodle | meebey: other than typing "reboot" in a root shell? |
| 22:00.12 | meebey | hvontres|poodle: yeah |
| 22:00.20 | meebey | hvontres|poodle: some nice GUI shutdown way :) |
| 22:00.34 | meebey | instead of killing all poor GUI processes |
| 22:02.12 | hobbs | meebey: er |
| 22:02.27 | hobbs | meebey: all a gui thing would do would be to kill everything anyway ;) |
| 22:03.07 | meebey | hobbs: are GUI sessions that brutal today? are we there already? |
| 22:03.12 | meebey | just kidding :) |
| 22:04.13 | meebey | some fs sync before hardware reset is a good thing though ;) |
| 22:04.28 | meebey | specially on fs in async mode without journal, like ext2 |
| 22:04.57 | meebey | so what will an user do? he must push reset I guess |
| 22:05.01 | hvontres|poodle | meebey: I think the reboot scripts take care of that already. |
| 22:05.08 | meebey | if he doesnt know what a root shell or /sbin/reboot is |
| 22:05.08 | hobbs | meebey: um |
| 22:05.23 | meebey | hvontres|poodle: sure but how is that integrated into GPE |
| 22:05.32 | meebey | there is suspend and logout... |
| 22:05.59 | hobbs | meebey: okay so make a setuid binary that calls /sbin/reboot, create a .desktop file for it... and then submit patch :) |
| 22:06.17 | meebey | which will be not enough at some point, kernel oopses, driver got into broken state, some kind of application freeze, zombie processes, etc |
| 22:06.26 | meebey | hobbs: :) |
| 22:06.47 | meebey | hobbs: I may do that, after I explored ipkg-dev |
| 22:07.20 | hobbs | hvontres|poodle: in the context of filesystem permissions, it's very simple |
| 22:08.02 | hobbs | hvontres|poodle: when you're dealing with programming and [gs]etresuid() there can be about a hundred rules to remember |
| 22:08.22 | hobbs | hvontres|poodle: but when you're dealing with the kernel running an app setuid because it's u+s in the filesystem it's very simple |
| 22:08.32 | hvontres|poodle | hobbs: yeah, but so far I just use su most of the time... I still need to learn more about some of the more esoteric parts of linux |
| 22:09.35 | hvontres|poodle | but that's why I have a Z and my old laptop and my old desktop on linux :) |
| 22:12.46 | meebey | the 3.5.4.2rc2 has only 1 progress indicator during flash? |
| 22:12.53 | meebey | 3.5.4 had 2.... |
| 22:13.16 | meebey | one for kernel one for the rootfs IIRC |
| 22:14.57 | meebey | "You really cannot use an EXT2 formatted CF card anymore. If you see only one row of dots, then \u201cSuccess!\u201d and \u201cplease reset\u201d, it\u2019s not really success. " |
| 22:15.02 | meebey | I think I got into that trap... |
| 22:15.18 | meebey | hrw|gone: evil you |
| 22:17.06 | meebey | yeah its not booting anymore now, just showing the OpenZaurus loho |
| 22:17.08 | meebey | logo |
| 22:20.45 | hvontres|poodle | meebey:do you have a CF writer? |
| 22:21.21 | hvontres|poodle | do you have a Fry's nearby? |
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| 22:22.49 | siriusnova | oh sorry |
| 22:22.57 | siriusnova | hvontres im in MIssouri |
| 22:23.35 | meebey | hvontres|poodle: not really, but I will buy one, was time to get one anyhow |
| 22:25.09 | hvontres|poodle | siriusnova: I should be online at home around 8pm Paciffic |
| 22:25.41 | hvontres|poodle | meebey: yeah... and I guess no Fry's in Hamburg...:) How's the weather BTW? |
| 22:25.58 | siriusnova | hvontres - ahh ok cool |
| 22:28.48 | meebey | hvontres|poodle: 16°C |
| 22:29.41 | meebey | it's fall already |
| 22:34.10 | hvontres|poodle | meebey: brrr...one thing I don't miss since leaving Rendsburg :) |
| 22:35.30 | meebey | hehe |
| 22:36.06 | hvontres|poodle | San Diego is much Warmer :) But a little brown in the summer |
| 22:51.07 | hvontres|poodle | ok, time to go home :) |
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| 23:47.09 | Kevin` | hm is usb-client supported in any windows other then CE? |
| 23:48.35 | Kevin` | er |
| 23:48.39 | Kevin` | wrong channel :D |
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| 23:56.49 | teledyn | does anyone know how to deal with the small plastic connector that the translucent orange ribbon cable in the 3x00 series connects into? |
| 23:57.24 | teledyn | it has a small plastic piece that is sort of like a bracket, which snaps off the connector |
| 23:58.02 | teledyn | to reconnect the ribbon cable you have to somehow hold the cable exactly into place which somehow trying to snap the little plastic bracket back into place, which is next to impossible. |
| 23:58.09 | teledyn | there must be some kind of trick |
| 23:58.53 | teledyn | s/which somehow/while somehow/ |