00:01.08 | ufoz_ | also this is very interesting |
00:01.14 | ufoz_ | http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/ipaq_screenshots.html |
00:01.56 | summatusmentis | that would be nice, especially if the icons are small enough |
00:02.05 | summatusmentis | firefox's icons are too big on a 5500 screen |
00:03.51 | ufoz_ | yupp but that is all for X i think |
00:04.24 | ufoz_ | well, on the screenshoot it looks like gpe |
00:06.21 | siriusnova | im thinking of getting rid of my zaurus :( |
00:06.30 | summatusmentis | getting rid of??? why? |
00:06.49 | siriusnova | because quite frankly the oz is buggy and konqueror is unusable as a web browser |
00:07.00 | siriusnova | and the sl-5500 has horrible battery life |
00:07.06 | siriusnova | i might just get a WM5 pda |
00:07.14 | siriusnova | i dunno |
00:07.20 | summatusmentis | :-/ at least get palm |
00:07.27 | siriusnova | palms are dead |
00:07.32 | summatusmentis | that is true, the 5500 does have bad battery life |
00:07.33 | siriusnova | PalmOS 5 is like 4 years old |
00:07.44 | summatusmentis | you're using a zaurus, for goodness sake |
00:07.54 | siriusnova | oh and the zaurus screen sucks too |
00:07.57 | siriusnova | its so dim |
00:08.12 | summatusmentis | on the 5500 probably |
00:08.21 | summatusmentis | you only have a 5500? |
00:08.22 | siriusnova | i was going to use it for kismet, but oz has way too many problems for it to be as a usable platform for wireless scanning |
00:08.24 | siriusnova | yes |
00:09.05 | summatusmentis | have you tried GPE? |
00:09.14 | summatusmentis | or considered a newer version of the Z? |
00:09.22 | siriusnova | i have, and the problem with gpe is worse. it simply not designed for a 320x240 screen |
00:09.30 | siriusnova | the newer Zs are too expensive for me |
00:09.36 | siriusnova | i can buy a laptop for that amount |
00:10.30 | summatusmentis | A C1000 goes for like $300, you'd be hard pressed to find a laptop for that much |
00:10.36 | ufoz_ | i got my zaurus 5500 for 20 euro |
00:10.55 | ufoz_ | so i have to be quite and have to say, okay for that money it is good |
00:11.08 | siriusnova | yeah mine was cheap |
00:11.14 | summatusmentis | yeah, 20 euro is like, what? $30? |
00:11.36 | ufoz_ | i dont know the curse |
00:12.05 | ufoz_ | but it is cheap, normaly you pay nearly 100 euro by ebay |
00:12.24 | ufoz_ | and for me it makes no sence to buy a bigger one. |
00:13.08 | summatusmentis | yeah, I think I spent $115 for my 5500 |
00:13.25 | summatusmentis | I've considered upgrading, but being a HS student, my resources are limited |
00:16.40 | ufoz_ | me to |
00:16.44 | ufoz_ | what is HS |
00:16.49 | siriusnova | High School |
00:16.55 | ufoz_ | ah |
00:16.56 | ufoz_ | :) |
00:17.11 | ufoz_ | and what you mean with upgrade |
00:17.16 | ufoz_ | just buy a newer one ? |
00:17.24 | summatusmentis | yeah, probably a 3100 |
00:17.47 | ufoz_ | on the other hand, what you realy want to do with it |
00:18.03 | summatusmentis | that's just it, my 5500 does everything I want it to do currently |
00:18.09 | ufoz_ | it is not funny to surf the internet on 640x480 |
00:18.23 | summatusmentis | try it at 320x240 |
00:19.12 | ufoz_ | yeah i tried it with the gpe and konqueror browsers |
00:19.30 | ufoz_ | it is all not that good |
00:19.31 | summatusmentis | usually I don't mind it, but the browsers for gpe are terrible, and won't authenticate on webmail, or anything else |
00:19.37 | summatusmentis | I assume they won't do cookies |
00:19.56 | ufoz_ | and firefox is to bold i think |
00:20.00 | ufoz_ | you tried it ? |
00:20.25 | summatusmentis | tried firefox? yes, it was essentially unusable at 240x320 |
00:20.44 | summatusmentis | the icons were too big, and it made the browser useless |
00:20.55 | ufoz_ | i dont understand that. there is no hack for that |
00:21.36 | summatusmentis | don't understand the size of the icons? you theroretically could theme firefox to use smaller icons |
00:21.45 | summatusmentis | but from what I hear, it's too big to be usable on the 5500 |
00:22.07 | ufoz_ | there is also dillo |
00:22.13 | ufoz_ | but this is ver very light browser |
00:22.43 | summatusmentis | I'm pretty sure dillo doesn't support cookies |
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00:22.59 | summatusmentis | it's what I normally use, but it won't authenticate on sites |
00:23.26 | ufoz_ | yeah |
00:26.32 | ufoz_ | k, i have to go to bed now |
00:26.43 | ufoz_ | adios |
00:27.29 | summatusmentis | siriusnova, if you were going to get a WM5 pda, I'd at least go for a smartphone |
00:27.34 | siriusnova | yeah |
00:27.39 | siriusnova | i was thinking of getting the palm treo wx |
00:27.43 | siriusnova | but it is $$ |
00:27.43 | summatusmentis | the Moto Q is really cool |
00:27.43 | siriusnova | :( |
00:28.04 | summatusmentis | my uncle really likes his treo 650 |
00:32.07 | siriusnova | what do you guys use for email on your zaurus? |
00:38.52 | summatusmentis | ummm...well, I don't currently |
00:39.15 | summatusmentis | I've got sylpheed installed, but I haven't had a chance to test it since I got it configured |
00:39.39 | summatusmentis | I think my school blocks smpt/pop ports, and we don't currently have high speed |
00:39.44 | siriusnova | hmm |
00:40.22 | summatusmentis | I think I set up thunderbird at one point too, but IIRC it had the same issue as firefox, too resource intensive |
00:42.29 | summatusmentis | if I wanted to take the time, I've considered using mutt, a CLI based software |
00:46.04 | siriusnova | how do i do a ctrl in opie |
00:47.05 | summatusmentis | I have yet to figure it out in GPE |
00:47.08 | summatusmentis | so I don't know |
00:51.51 | summatusmentis | I wish there was a usable .doc editor |
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01:16.58 | summatusmentis | does anyone know of a way to "dual-boot" opie and gpe, both as images on the sd card? |
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01:45.13 | hfern | summatusmentis: I guess altboot should be able to do that |
01:45.39 | summatusmentis | well, theoretically, but I lack experiance with altboot |
01:45.51 | hfern | summatusmentis: me too :-D |
01:46.08 | summatusmentis | and if it's possible, it'd be nice if the could both be 'on' at the same time, for easy switching |
01:46.17 | hfern | I was just intrigued by your question and researched it on the Internet.. |
01:46.57 | summatusmentis | I've googled a little bit, but it's time intensive on dial-up |
01:47.02 | hfern | it's described nicely at http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/docs/altboot.shtml |
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01:49.05 | summatusmentis | hfern, thatnks, that helps a little bit |
01:49.19 | hfern | np |
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02:13.51 | siriusnova | cooool |
02:13.59 | siriusnova | i didnt know altboot supports multiple images on an SD card |
02:15.48 | hfern | me neither - just it read it a few minutes before you did :-) |
02:16.12 | siriusnova | now all i need is a 512mb sd card and i can dual boot |
02:16.24 | siriusnova | the only reason id use gpe would be for stuff like VLC |
02:17.06 | siriusnova | btw how do i change the background in Opie |
02:17.15 | siriusnova | that platypus or whatever is getting anoying |
02:17.18 | siriusnova | *annoying |
02:19.16 | siriusnova | nvm |
02:24.39 | siriusnova | lol opie crashed :X |
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