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| 01:04.43 | JustinP | what an asshole |
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| 01:12.06 | summatusmentis | who? |
| 01:17.40 | OPP | ;p; |
| 01:17.42 | OPP | lol |
| 01:17.49 | OPP | that was really assholey of him i must admit |
| 01:18.49 | flux | 01:48 < Cyorxamp> well considering OZ does not work, what else am I left with? |
| 01:18.56 | flux | (for summatusmentis ) |
| 01:19.23 | summatusmentis | ah, I should've guessed |
| 01:19.58 | summatusmentis | did he ever get what he was trying to do working? kantlivelong Kevin` CoreDump|afk ? |
| 01:21.07 | OPP | uhh |
| 01:21.12 | OPP | he wanted to do something with VLC i think |
| 01:21.27 | summatusmentis | oh, that's not what he was working on last night |
| 01:21.33 | OPP | o wait |
| 01:21.36 | OPP | package manger |
| 01:21.36 | OPP | i think |
| 01:21.51 | summatusmentis | then he got OZ booting? |
| 01:22.15 | OPP | no ide |
| 01:22.16 | OPP | idea |
| 01:22.24 | OPP | remember, this stuff is like gibberish to me still |
| 01:22.46 | summatusmentis | well, presumably, if he had issues w/ his package manager, her was at least in the OS |
| 01:22.55 | summatusmentis | oh that's right, sorry |
| 01:23.08 | summatusmentis | do you know which Z you're getting/ |
| 01:23.30 | OPP | lol |
| 01:23.48 | OPP | because my pocket is skinnier than nicole richie probably the c1000 |
| 01:24.06 | OPP | i have large SD cards |
| 01:24.28 | summatusmentis | yeah, but I _think_ that w/ the 128MB, you should be fine for a while... |
| 01:24.37 | OPP | ya |
| 01:24.42 | OPP | i have a 2gb sd card |
| 01:24.48 | OPP | and 1 gb |
| 01:25.10 | summatusmentis | the 2gb one might not work, I'm not sure |
| 01:25.26 | OPP | why |
| 01:25.50 | summatusmentis | driver issues, although it may just be on the 5500 |
| 01:26.36 | OPP | ya |
| 01:26.42 | OPP | probably |
| 01:26.53 | OPP | i want to spend under 400 dollars |
| 01:26.55 | OPP | basicly. |
| 01:27.48 | summatusmentis | yeah |
| 01:28.06 | summatusmentis | but even a 1gb card will be fine, I'm not even using 1/4 of mine |
| 01:32.26 | OPP | well |
| 01:32.30 | OPP | i plan on putting movies on it |
| 01:32.33 | OPP | and music |
| 01:32.35 | OPP | so ill use it |
| 01:36.53 | summatusmentis | yes, yes you will |
| 01:36.57 | OPP | the c3xxx go for over 400? |
| 01:36.59 | OPP | all of them right |
| 01:38.16 | summatusmentis | I think so, you might be able to get one on ebay for less |
| 01:38.24 | OPP | nice |
| 01:38.30 | OPP | im lookin |
| 01:38.48 | OPP | so every different "rom" has different repositories |
| 01:39.02 | summatusmentis | assuming they have repos, yes |
| 01:39.28 | OPP | nice |
| 01:39.36 | OPP | can you dual boot |
| 01:39.37 | OPP | lol |
| 01:40.15 | summatusmentis | yeah, but I'm not sure how workable that is |
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| 01:51.12 | OPP | wait, i can install to SD, right? |
| 01:59.16 | OPP | how does the zaurus handle dependencies |
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| 08:39.29 | nil | hi! |
| 08:40.38 | nil | I would like to disactivate the power saving feature on my zaurus (C3200), because for the moment il just switches the screen light off after 1 minute of inaction |
| 08:41.00 | nil | (and I can't put the light back from the Alt+3 key) |
| 08:41.07 | nil | (i'm in colsole mode) |
| 08:41.18 | nil | * how could I disable it |
| 08:41.52 | nil | * better : where is this power-saving feature configuration, I'd like to fix it |
| 08:42.10 | nil | I use OZ 3.5.4.1 |
| 08:52.16 | hrw|work | opie or gpe? |
| 09:08.01 | nil | hrw|work: gpe is installed |
| 09:08.09 | nil | hrw|work: for the moment, i don't use it |
| 09:08.21 | hrw|work | nil: but have it running? |
| 09:08.31 | nil | hrw|work: I tried to change the "Sleep config", it has no effect |
| 09:08.38 | nil | hrw|work: yes, it is runnung |
| 09:08.43 | nil | running |
| 09:09.03 | hrw|work | so it is running so it change backlight as there is nothing running in x11 world |
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| 09:11.10 | nil | hrw|work: I will try to restart the zaurus without gpe running |
| 09:11.36 | pgas | something like "/etc/init.d/gpe-dm stop" shoud stop gpe no? |
| 09:11.49 | hrw|work | should |
| 09:12.44 | nil | yes, of course, forgot it :) |
| 09:17.45 | nil | hrw|work: right, without gpe the screen is not shut down |
| 09:17.55 | nil | hrw|work: thanks |
| 09:18.18 | nil | now I know where the bug hides |
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| 09:18.43 | hrw|work | its not a bug |
| 09:19.01 | nil | well, the inconvenient config :) |
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| 10:08.18 | lardman | morning |
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| 14:23.07 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 16:44.13 | *** topic/#openzaurus by CoreDump|home -> OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4/3.5.4.1 | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ | Feed browser: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/ | feeds.openzaurus.org rotates through all available mirrors |
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| 18:02.30 | lindenle | Anyone out there with a symbol CF wifi card got kismet working? |
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| 18:14.14 | Greg2 | hello all |
| 18:15.32 | CoreDump|home | hi Greg2 |
| 18:16.17 | Greg2 | CoreDump|home: hey |
| 18:18.00 | Greg2 | oreDump|home: i finally have dsl :-) |
| 18:18.23 | Greg2 | CoreDump|home: i finally have dsl :-) |
| 18:18.39 | CoreDump|home | ~cheer Greg2 |
| 18:18.41 | ibot | ACTION cheers Greg2 on |
| 18:18.56 | Greg2 | yah! |
| 18:20.17 | Greg2 | CoreDump|home: 2 years i tried to get this... |
| 18:20.27 | CoreDump|home | how come? |
| 18:20.40 | Greg2 | where i live |
| 18:21.18 | Greg2 | in the country |
| 18:22.07 | CoreDump|home | ah, that sucks :\ |
| 18:22.24 | Greg2 | not now :) |
| 18:22.32 | CoreDump|home | =D |
| 18:22.51 | CoreDump|home | so, how fast is your up/downlink? |
| 18:23.13 | Greg2 | 768/128 |
| 18:23.51 | Greg2 | up from 53/20 :) |
| 18:24.54 | Greg2 | big for me :-) |
| 18:25.33 | CoreDump|home | very nice |
| 18:25.40 | CoreDump|home | dialup sucks bad |
| 18:25.47 | Greg2 | :) |
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| 18:41.37 | Greg2 | bbl |
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| 19:45.01 | lindenle | Anyone out there with a symbol CF wifi card got kismet working? |
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| 20:00.15 | summatusmentis | lindenle, I've got the symbol wifi card, but I'm not sure how to use kismet |
| 20:01.54 | lindenle | summatusmentis: i tried it but it is using the orinoco driver and kismet complains that the driver needs to be patched |
| 20:02.02 | lindenle | is there another driver that works with it? |
| 20:02.51 | summatusmentis | is it showing up as eth0? |
| 20:02.55 | lindenle | yes |
| 20:03.17 | summatusmentis | I don't think there is, I think the Symbol card is an orinoco chipset |
| 20:03.21 | lindenle | summatusmentis:but I can set Monitor mode |
| 20:03.40 | lindenle | so I would have to roll my own zaurus kernel with the orinoco patch |
| 20:03.58 | summatusmentis | Idon't know for sure |
| 20:04.10 | lindenle | experts? |
| 20:04.14 | summatusmentis | what patch needs to be applied? |
| 20:04.40 | lindenle | http://www.kismetwireless.net/HOWTO-orinoco-drivers.txt |
| 20:04.49 | summatusmentis | hrw, CoreDump|home, lardman|gone, hvontres|poodle, do any of you now? |
| 20:05.11 | CoreDump|home | no idea, sorry |
| 20:06.31 | lindenle | could anyone with a oz build environment build the standalone and add it to a feed? |
| 20:06.51 | lindenle | then we dont need a whole new kernel |
| 20:07.01 | summatusmentis | the standalone kernel? or the kernel modules? |
| 20:07.21 | lindenle | there is a standalone driver for orinoco |
| 20:07.40 | summatusmentis | ah, so rebuild w/ the patch applied |
| 20:07.42 | lindenle | http://www.kismetwireless.net/download.shtml |
| 20:07.56 | lindenle | no i think just build the standalone driver using the OZ kernel |
| 20:07.59 | CoreDump|home | fwiw, the orinoco-modules_0.13e package should have the monitor patch applied |
| 20:08.19 | lindenle | CoreDump|home:does that include rfmon? |
| 20:08.32 | CoreDump|home | dunno |
| 20:08.42 | lindenle | hmm they seem to have arm binaies |
| 20:08.43 | CoreDump|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.48 | lindenle | maybe Ill try that |
| 20:10.38 | lindenle | CoreDump|home: This is not critical anyway i just thought war-riding on the bus in the morning would be fun |
| 20:11.16 | lindenle | CoreDump|home: my feeds do not have a package called orinoco-modules_0.13e |
| 20:11.18 | CoreDump|home | =) As I said, orinoco-modules_0.13e has the monitor patch applied |
| 20:12.26 | CoreDump|home | well, looks like the package doesn't compile |
| 20:12.33 | lindenle | ah |
| 20:12.54 | CoreDump|home | hrw: is that even supposed to compile? |
| 20:14.56 | hrw | which one? |
| 20:15.27 | lindenle | hrw:orinoco-modules_0.13e |
| 20:15.43 | hrw | if it is in feeds then it compiles |
| 20:15.56 | lindenle | hrw: I can't find it in the feeds. |
| 20:16.03 | hrw | and as orinoco modules are part of image they should be buildable |
| 20:16.20 | hrw | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/?action=details&pnm=orinoco-modules-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix |
| 20:16.23 | lindenle | hrw: I only have the kernel-*orinoco ipk |
| 20:16.38 | hrw | lindenle: which machine? |
| 20:16.44 | lindenle | c860 |
| 20:16.56 | lindenle | OZ 3.5.4.1 |
| 20:16.56 | hrw | then you DO NOT compile orinoco-modules at all |
| 20:17.03 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 20:17.21 | lindenle | hrw: ?? |
| 20:17.30 | hrw | if kernel == 2.4 then compile hostap-modules orinoco-modules; elseif kernel == 2.6 then build linux-openzaurus;endif |
| 20:17.47 | lindenle | ok, that is clear |
| 20:17.53 | CoreDump|home | ahh |
| 20:18.06 | lindenle | but what do i do if i want kismet to work for an orinoco chipset |
| 20:18.11 | CoreDump|home | looks like the2.6 module is missing monitor support |
| 20:18.24 | hrw | then complain to orinoco maintainer |
| 20:18.28 | lindenle | ok |
| 20:18.32 | lindenle | who is that ;) |
| 20:18.44 | hrw | read linux-2.6/MAINTAINERS |
| 20:19.11 | lindenle | could we possily be pro-acive and compile the standalone module from kismet and ad it to the fedd? |
| 20:19.17 | lindenle | s/fedd/feed/ |
| 20:19.28 | hrw | you can try |
| 20:19.28 | lindenle | s/acive/active/ |
| 20:19.45 | hrw | s/\s/umba/ |
| 20:19.46 | lindenle | k...ill have to set up my OZ build system again |
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| 20:38.26 | CoreDump|home | http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/Misc/kismet.jpg |
| 20:38.29 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 20:43.27 | lindenle | CoreDump|home: what card? |
| 20:43.33 | CoreDump|home | hostap |
| 20:43.38 | lindenle | nice |
| 20:44.27 | lindenle | CoreDump|home: hey my bitbake can't find bitbake.conf |
| 20:44.33 | lindenle | and I have it in BBPATH |
| 20:44.47 | lindenle | never mind im an idiot |
| 20:44.49 | CoreDump|home | obvioulsy not heh |
| 20:45.31 | lindenle | now we are cooking with gas |
| 20:46.00 | lindenle | gonna have to look at how these patches work next |
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| 20:47.51 | CoreDump|home | there are bound to be existing patches against 2.6.**, you are not the only one with this problem |
| 20:48.01 | lindenle | yeah there are |
| 20:48.14 | lindenle | so i guess just apply them and then cross fingers for build success |
| 20:48.16 | lindenle | to start with |
| 20:48.36 | CoreDump|home | if you manage to find a patch agains 2.6.17 let me know |
| 20:48.45 | lindenle | k |
| 20:49.24 | lindenle | http://www.kismetwireless.net/code/orinoco-0.13-dragorn-2.6.17.tar.gz |
| 20:50.19 | lindenle | CoreDump|home: I think that one should work |
| 20:51.26 | CoreDump|home | sweet |
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| 20:52.19 | lindenle | CoreDump|home: you running 2.6.17? What hardware? |
| 20:52.30 | mimecar | hello.. |
| 20:52.32 | CoreDump|home | akita |
| 20:52.35 | CoreDump|home | hi mimecar |
| 20:52.49 | mimecar | evening CoreDump|home |
| 20:53.16 | CoreDump|home | that tarball is just the old 2.4 driver ported to 2.6. You do not have a patch against the in-kernel module from 2.6.17 by chance? |
| 20:53.30 | lindenle | CoreDump|home: Im such an ass I was in japan a week ago and resisted buying a terrier |
| 20:53.39 | lindenle | what was i thinking |
| 20:53.40 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
| 20:53.48 | CoreDump|home | w00f |
| 20:53.57 | CoreDump|home | SL-Cxx00 rocks |
| 20:54.14 | lindenle | c860 with 4Gb SD not so bad either |
| 20:54.33 | lindenle | wonder if anyone will ever figure out a way to make the usb port a host |
| 20:54.53 | CoreDump|home | lindenle: the hardware can't do it |
| 20:55.16 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.59 | CoreDump|home | really? interesting |
| 20:57.33 | mimecar | you need a hardware wich suppor usb host |
| 20:57.53 | mimecar | I don't know the IC use c860, but not always is posible |
| 20:58.01 | mimecar | IC (integrate circuit) |
| 21:01.11 | CoreDump|home | there is hardware usb host support on cxx0 |
| 21:01.38 | mimecar | and Cx00 haven't usb host ? |
| 21:01.43 | mimecar | running |
| 21:02.33 | CoreDump|home | err |
| 21:02.51 | CoreDump|home | there is NO hardware usb host support on cxx0 |
| 21:02.53 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 21:03.01 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:03.07 | mimecar | on usb host |
| 21:03.21 | mimecar | only the ost (usually PC) can start transmissions over the usb |
| 21:03.57 | mimecar | other devices, for example, a mice, can not start a transmission with the host without "permission" |
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| 22:15.05 | lindenle | mimecar: so is it impossible |
| 22:53.24 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.38 | lindenle | I am tring to use my OE build chain and qemu is not building ... any advice |
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| 23:22.57 | lindenle | I am tring to use my OE build chain and qemu-native is not building ... any advice |
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| 23:43.45 | tchan | qemu only supports the following cpus: x86, x86_64, powerpc, sparc, mips, arm926e, arm1026e |
| 23:44.18 | lindenle | tchan: ok, im on x86 |
| 23:44.48 | lindenle | tchan:I think i got a work around from #oe list |
| 23:46.48 | tchan | yes, but your OE build chain is setup (most likely) for compiling to Zaurii strongarm cpu... |
| 23:48.02 | lindenle | tchan: not following |
| 23:50.06 | lindenle | anyway it seems to be working now |
| 23:50.45 | tchan | don't mind me. I assumed an OE build chain is a cross-compiler setup running on x86 to compile StrongARM binaries |
| 23:51.30 | lindenle | ok |
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