| 00:00.32 | hvontres|poodle | kantlivelong: do you have a cradle/usb cable? |
| 00:00.48 | kantlivelong | hvontres|poodle: yep |
| 00:02.41 | hvontres|poodle | well for starters take a look here: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/USB_Networking |
| 00:02.53 | kantlivelong | hvontres|poodle: yeah i checked that out.. didnt seem to work |
| 00:03.42 | hvontres|poodle | basicaly, on the Z you just need to modprobe g_ether, edit the settings for usb0 in /etc/network/interfaces and ifup usb0 |
| 00:04.02 | kantlivelong | hvontres|poodle: ight ill try it again in a few :) |
| 00:04.55 | hvontres|poodle | I don't use bridging myself.. you might try looking at this as well: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/USB_Networking_Without_Bridging |
| 00:05.24 | hvontres|poodle | But I use Fedora 4/5 so I am not sure how to get gentoo working. |
| 00:05.48 | hvontres|poodle | does gentoo use udev? |
| 00:05.59 | kantlivelong | hvontres|poodle: yeah :) im sure its nearly the same |
| 00:06.50 | hvontres|poodle | all I had to do on my laptop was to add an alias for usb0 in modules.conf and set up a config for usb0. |
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| 00:07.02 | _charly_ | hi |
| 00:07.08 | summatusmentis | hey there |
| 00:07.48 | hvontres|poodle | kantlivelong: also, why do you need to reboot to get stuff onto CF? |
| 00:08.09 | kantlivelong | hvontres|poodle: i have fs on SD.. and i have a 1gb CF but only the zaurus can write to it |
| 00:08.28 | hvontres|poodle | dohhh... |
| 00:08.50 | kantlivelong | yep i just need a writer/reader.. i want the cf mainly for movies on long car rides.. |
| 00:08.50 | hvontres|poodle | usb networking is really nice :) |
| 00:09.08 | kantlivelong | otherwise i have the wifi CF soon |
| 00:09.19 | kantlivelong | i need to buy one tho... but im too poor to spend $50 |
| 00:09.25 | summatusmentis | yeah, wifi is nicer than usb |
| 00:09.30 | summatusmentis | personally |
| 00:09.43 | hvontres|poodle | only if you have wifi :) |
| 00:09.52 | kantlivelong | my laptop has a hostap card so i can connect Z to laptp and sync on the go :) |
| 00:09.54 | hvontres|poodle | plus, usb also works at work :) |
| 00:10.13 | kantlivelong | :) |
| 00:10.22 | kantlivelong | so how do wpa roaming work? |
| 00:10.24 | _charly_ | it seems that the collie-images of v3.5.4.1 are broken. there's a v2.6.17 in the tar.gz, but when booting the collie there's a message that kernel 2.4.18 is expected but 2.6.17 is found |
| 00:10.26 | summatusmentis | hvontres|poodle, your place of employment won't allow wifi? |
| 00:11.01 | hvontres|poodle | summatusmentis : yup. |
| 00:11.04 | kantlivelong | my place of emp has that tmobile wifi and a WEP secured AP which im in the process of cracking :) |
| 00:11.21 | summatusmentis | good way to get yourself fired.... |
| 00:11.34 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: only if they find me :) |
| 00:11.39 | JustinP | kantlivelong: wpa_supplicant |
| 00:11.42 | summatusmentis | heh |
| 00:11.45 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: its freakin barns n nobile lol |
| 00:12.33 | summatusmentis | well, a job is always good |
| 00:13.18 | kantlivelong | does anyone here have a wifi CF for sale? (preferably hostap(AP MODE) compliant prism2 |
| 00:13.33 | hvontres|poodle | well, I'm in pretty good with the IT guys here at work... they let me have admin rights on my XP box.. hehehe |
| 00:13.57 | hvontres|poodle | kantlivelong : try e-bay :) |
| 00:14.11 | kantlivelong | hvontres|poodle: im too poor for $50 cards :( |
| 00:14.21 | kantlivelong | hvontres|poodle: i need a cracking freindly card ;) |
| 00:16.48 | hvontres|poodle | kantlivelong : use the laptop? |
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| 00:17.26 | kantlivelong | hvontres|poodle: its alot esiar to go to work w/ a pda in the pocket cracking then a laptop in the pocket lol |
| 00:17.50 | summatusmentis | he's hoping to not get caught remember... |
| 00:17.54 | hvontres|poodle | kantlivelong : put laptop in breakroom?????????? |
| 00:18.05 | kantlivelong | hvontres|poodle: they wont allow it |
| 00:18.32 | kantlivelong | does gpe have a better login manager? i love opies simple single user PIN login |
| 00:19.12 | hvontres|poodle | well, I guess you'll need to save up those 50 bucks then :) |
| 00:19.56 | kantlivelong | hvontres|poodle: yep.... i acctually have the $$ but i just wanna get some more $$ in bank.. im takin my GF out to dinner on halloween |
| 00:19.59 | summatusmentis | kantlivelong, just go w/out food, eating is overrated anyway ;-) |
| 00:20.15 | summatusmentis | there's your problem right there, the gf |
| 00:20.15 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: hahaha funny u said that ^ |
| 00:20.25 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: nah she never asks of anything from me |
| 00:20.26 | summatusmentis | no gf == more money for computer toys |
| 00:20.34 | kantlivelong | i mean never... |
| 00:21.28 | summatusmentis | kantlivelong, I'm just kidding anyway |
| 00:21.52 | summatusmentis | heh, if I could get a gf, I'd be doing the same thing |
| 00:22.09 | hvontres|poodle | kantlivelong : just ask for one for Christams :) |
| 00:22.17 | hvontres|poodle | (wifi card that is) |
| 00:22.29 | summatusmentis | as compared to a gf...heh, that'd go over well |
| 00:22.45 | kantlivelong | hahaha |
| 00:23.04 | kantlivelong | she loves my nerdyness |
| 00:23.37 | summatusmentis | hrm...I must live in the wrong place then |
| 00:24.07 | hvontres|poodle | summatusmentis : Where are you at? |
| 00:24.15 | summatusmentis | ME, USA |
| 00:24.21 | hvontres|poodle | brrrr |
| 00:24.27 | kantlivelong | im in NY |
| 00:24.40 | hvontres|poodle | heheh, I'm in CA :P |
| 00:24.49 | summatusmentis | well, ok, cold by CA standards |
| 00:25.12 | summatusmentis | ME isn't that bad though(granted, I've lived in MN, ME, and WY, so I'm kind of used to it) |
| 00:25.51 | kantlivelong | :P |
| 00:26.08 | hvontres|poodle | summatusmentis : you just "can't get there from here" (tm) |
| 00:26.17 | summatusmentis | essentially not |
| 00:26.41 | summatusmentis | I honestly think the road that goes through my town doesn't go anywhere afterwards |
| 00:27.00 | hvontres|poodle | hmmm, so those old guy's aren't kidding then? |
| 00:27.44 | hvontres|poodle | grrr.. trying to diagnose failure sucks when they stop happening :( |
| 00:29.00 | summatusmentis | hvontres|poodle, not in my case |
| 00:29.10 | summatusmentis | I'm sure that makes diagnostics difficult |
| 00:35.06 | kantlivelong | lala |
| 00:36.10 | kantlivelong | is there a opie style login thing that GPE can use? |
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| 00:38.27 | summatusmentis | when trying to start the sshd, I get the error: |
| 00:38.46 | summatusmentis | Privilege Separation user sshd does not exist |
| 00:38.48 | summatusmentis | suggestions? |
| 00:39.04 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: create user sshd/group sshd? |
| 00:39.41 | summatusmentis | I've considered it, but I'm kind of iffy, as I had sshd working at one point |
| 00:40.15 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: grep ssh /etc/passwd |
| 00:40.42 | summatusmentis | noting |
| 00:40.49 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: add it then |
| 00:40.49 | summatusmentis | s/noting/nothing |
| 00:41.45 | summatusmentis | just any user? |
| 00:41.54 | summatusmentis | password? what sort of permissions? |
| 00:42.05 | summatusmentis | home dir.? |
| 00:42.13 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: no password and no shell |
| 00:42.20 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: no home dir |
| 00:43.03 | summatusmentis | not in front of a linux box, what's the command gonna look like? |
| 00:44.18 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: useradd -s /bin/nologin sshd |
| 00:44.26 | summatusmentis | ok, thanks |
| 00:44.30 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: i think |
| 00:44.54 | summatusmentis | heh, that's reassuring |
| 00:46.00 | summatusmentis | no useradd command :-/ |
| 00:47.00 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: adduser? |
| 00:47.12 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: it depends on distro |
| 00:49.56 | summatusmentis | adduser, on OZ/GPE |
| 00:54.03 | summatusmentis | thanks kantlivelong |
| 00:54.17 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: worked? |
| 00:59.04 | summatusmentis | that it did, thanks alot |
| 00:59.10 | summatusmentis | I left the password blank |
| 00:59.21 | summatusmentis | but shouldn't matter because there's no shell, right? |
| 00:59.34 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: yep |
| 00:59.38 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: its fine |
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| 01:14.12 | kantlivelong | why wont it take my stupid calibration! |
| 01:15.06 | summatusmentis | it's because you touch yourself at night |
| 01:16.17 | kantlivelong | lol it wont calibrate the touchscren |
| 01:16.21 | kantlivelong | it just ignores it |
| 01:16.59 | summatusmentis | lacking the touchscreen module in the kernel maybe? |
| 01:17.10 | hvontres|poodle | time to go home...:) |
| 01:17.13 | hvontres|poodle | night all |
| 01:17.39 | summatusmentis | good night |
| 01:18.01 | kantlivelong | summatusmentis: no it touches just in the wrong spots |
| 01:18.28 | summatusmentis | interesting... |
| 01:18.43 | summatusmentis | check oesf.org/forums see if others are having the same issue |
| 01:19.37 | kantlivelong | what changes in the fs from each kernel? |
| 01:21.09 | summatusmentis | what do you mean? |
| 01:22.07 | kantlivelong | like each kernel has its own fs |
| 01:22.36 | summatusmentis | I'm stilll not sure I understand... |
| 01:22.52 | kantlivelong | nvm |
| 01:23.45 | summatusmentis | ok |
| 01:24.49 | kantlivelong | brb |
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| 01:59.58 | kantlivelong | gpe crash again |
| 01:59.59 | kantlivelong | yay |
| 02:29.03 | Cyorxamp | Lets do this again :P.... |
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| 02:29.21 | Cyorxamp | My wifi works, its gets an IP and I can connect to IRC fine and ping googlecom from konsole |
| 02:29.27 | Cyorxamp | But gaim and konquerer refuse to do anything |
| 02:29.38 | Cyorxamp | any ideas on why?...... anyone? |
| 02:32.31 | NAbyss_ | do either whinge when they refuse to do anything? |
| 02:33.16 | Cyorxamp | sorry what? |
| 02:33.22 | NAbyss_ | Cyorxamp: Error messages? |
| 02:33.27 | Cyorxamp | oh... umm they just say they cant find the hsot or whatever |
| 02:33.39 | Cyorxamp | well konquerer says it times out and so does gaim |
| 02:33.55 | NAbyss_ | what happens if you chuck in an IP instead of a hostname? |
| 02:34.11 | Cyorxamp | hmm, got an ip? |
| 02:34.29 | wayne | 64.233.167.99 |
| 02:34.36 | Cyorxamp | 66.102.7.104 |
| 02:34.41 | Cyorxamp | thats google :P |
| 02:34.42 | NAbyss_ | Hmm, 66.249.89.99 |
| 02:34.48 | wayne | yep, good ol' google :) |
| 02:35.05 | Cyorxamp | the IP works |
| 02:35.30 | wayne | wow. we're 3, and we all came up with google's ip as a test. We suck! |
| 02:35.44 | Cyorxamp | So whats the diagnosis? |
| 02:35.59 | Cyorxamp | My pda is using the same network/isp as the rest of my pcs that have no isue |
| 02:36.10 | NAbyss | Cyorxamp: Sounds like the dns is having issues.. what's in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 02:36.10 | Cyorxamp | and it must be able to resolve irc.freenode.net to connect to IRC |
| 02:36.15 | wayne | Cyorxamp: sounds like a host resolution problem |
| 02:36.25 | wayne | try to ping various hosts by name to see |
| 02:36.32 | wayne | check /etc/resolv.conf too |
| 02:36.54 | Cyorxamp | ok ill check the file |
| 02:40.11 | Cyorxamp | ok ive looked and looked |
| 02:40.17 | Cyorxamp | i cant see a /etc/resolv.conf |
| 02:40.57 | NAbyss | Er.. that can't be good |
| 02:41.04 | NAbyss | Fire up a terminal, and do this: |
| 02:41.20 | NAbyss | echo nameserver 1.2.3.4 > /etc/resolv.conf, where 1.2.3.4 is your local DNS server |
| 02:41.52 | Cyorxamp | echo nameserver 192.168.1.1. > /etc/resolv.conf ??? |
| 02:42.06 | NAbyss | Without the trailing . after the 1, yes |
| 02:42.29 | NAbyss | IIRC, the opie network applet -should- set it up |
| 02:42.31 | Cyorxamp | done |
| 02:42.38 | NAbyss | now give gaim/konq a burl |
| 02:43.11 | Cyorxamp | hostnames has worked before 1 in a million times |
| 02:43.19 | Cyorxamp | i.e. type in google and eventually google comes up |
| 02:43.24 | Cyorxamp | should I reboot? |
| 02:43.26 | NAbyss | nah |
| 02:43.29 | NAbyss | just go straight for it |
| 02:43.37 | NAbyss | but make sure you quit/reopen gaim/konq |
| 02:43.48 | Cyorxamp | tell i get more timeouts |
| 02:44.06 | NAbyss | Hmm. |
| 02:44.11 | NAbyss | Give it a reboot I guess.. can't hurt |
| 02:44.20 | Cyorxamp | irc still works |
| 02:44.25 | Cyorxamp | ok |
| 02:44.49 | Cyorxamp | rebooting... |
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| 02:46.11 | Cyorxamp | hi Wicked |
| 02:46.31 | Wicked | Hey |
| 02:47.46 | Cyorxamp | still no joy NAbyss |
| 02:48.07 | Cyorxamp | irc still works tho.. so must still be resolving irc.freenode.net |
| 02:48.17 | Cyorxamp | and i can ping google.com okay |
| 02:48.29 | NAbyss | That's really weird |
| 02:48.34 | Cyorxamp | and download upgrades from the feeds! |
| 02:48.39 | NAbyss | You've got the nameserver IP setup in the opie network thing? |
| 02:49.12 | Cyorxamp | its on dhcp |
| 02:49.17 | NAbyss | hmm |
| 02:49.25 | Cyorxamp | but ive had this when its manually set too |
| 02:49.33 | NAbyss | see what happens if it's set to static IP for now.. see if that fixes things |
| 02:49.35 | Cyorxamp | no wep or wpa neither |
| 02:49.36 | NAbyss | process of elimination etc |
| 02:49.43 | Cyorxamp | i just register the mac addresses |
| 02:49.53 | Cyorxamp | yeah its always 192.168.0.9 |
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| 02:51.35 | Cyorxamp | any more ideas? |
| 02:54.37 | Cyorxamp | google still works on that IP |
| 02:57.37 | Cyorxamp | non of googles searched for links are clickable tho |
| 02:57.46 | Cyorxamp | well they are but they just dont do anything |
| 02:57.49 | Cyorxamp | NAbyss? |
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| 03:04.08 | Cyorxamp | wb TheFool |
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| 10:17.53 | kerwood | hrw|work: my terrier has stranger problems now -- it boots up with no modules loaded |
| 10:17.54 | kerwood | hrw|work: the messages during initial boot go too quickly but there is nothing useful in the syslog |
| 10:17.54 | kerwood | hrw|work: None of the recently-changed files pertain to modules. |
| 10:17.54 | kerwood | hrw|work: do you have any suggestions? |
| 10:18.47 | hrw|work | run depmod by hand |
| 10:20.16 | kerwood | hrw|work: done -- no change, no modules |
| 10:21.23 | kerwood | hrw|work: errr, no modules *loaded* |
| 10:23.01 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:26.29 | kerwood | very interesting -- that appears to be missing! |
| 10:26.56 | kerwood | however I have many backups from earlier so perhaps I will find it there |
| 10:27.10 | kerwood | no idea why it would be gone, though |
| 10:32.12 | kerwood | hrw|work: hmmm...it's not in the backup, either...are you sure /etc/init.d is the right place? |
| 10:34.23 | hrw|work | I do not remember how this script is named in OZ |
| 10:34.49 | kerwood | oh |
| 10:35.38 | kerwood | hrw|work: no matter, I'll chase it through the scripts later. got to go now. Thanks! |
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| 12:40.20 | kerwood | hrw|work: I have a text file in / called "not a tty" which is dated the time of the last reboot, which has the following: |
| 12:40.20 | kerwood | hrw|work: altboot: Using real init [/sbin/init.sysvinit] [6] [39] *" |
| 12:40.20 | kerwood | hrw|work: so it looks like it's time to reflash the whole distro... |
| 12:44.43 | hrw|work | maybe |
| 12:46.30 | kerwood | hrw|work: /sbin/init.altboot generates the tty device name with `tty`, which is becoming "not a tty" at boot time, even though now it return "/dev/pts/0" in a shell... |
| 12:47.48 | kerwood | hrw|work: is it true that /dev is empty at boot time? |
| 12:55.06 | hrw|work | iirc it is |
| 12:55.16 | hrw|work | food time |
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| 14:14.29 | Cyorxamp | "Along with the standard Ubuntu applications, Ubuntu Christian Edition includes the best available Christian software. The latest release contains GnomeSword, a top of the line Bible study program for Linux based on the Sword Project. There are several modules installed with GnomeSword including Bibles, Commentaries, and Dictionaries." |
| 14:14.43 | Cyorxamp | The world has gone clinically insane |
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| 14:15.11 | Cyorxamp | Here we are in Britian discussing if Faith schools are right, and we already have Faith Operating Systems |
| 14:35.51 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 14:37.25 | Cyorxamp | hi |
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| 17:48.16 | bkudria | i just bought a symbol la-4137 card...but it doesn't seem to work. hrw|gonehad me remove the orinoco drivers for a previous card...can that be the problem? how do i get it working? |
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| 17:55.04 | hvontres|poodle | bkudria: what machine do you have? |
| 17:58.17 | hvontres|poodle | bkudria: it looks like you may need to re-install the kernel-module-spectrum-cs-2.6 package, along with spectrum-fw |
| 17:58.31 | hvontres|poodle | but I am not an expert on wifi. |
| 17:59.39 | hvontres|poodle | hrw should be back later. |
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| 18:37.51 | lindenle_ | how do I set the timezone on my zarus |
| 18:38.31 | lindenle_ | and how do I make the time work correctly over a suspend cycle |
| 18:41.53 | lindenle_ | q |
| 19:15.14 | CoreDump|home | wb hrw|tv |
| 19:15.32 | hrw|tv | ~lart wifi |
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| 20:20.33 | Greg2 | hello all |
| 21:02.09 | hvontres|poodle | hi Greg2 |
| 21:04.30 | Greg2 | hi hvontres|poodle |
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| 21:43.39 | Greg2 | bbl |
| 22:32.02 | hvontres|poodle | Cyorxamp : did you ever get anywhere with konq and DNS? |
| 22:45.24 | Cyorxamp | i havent tried usb networking yet... got a bigger problem |
| 22:45.32 | Cyorxamp | one of my hdd has decided to die on me :( |
| 22:45.58 | Cyorxamp | its suddenly things as of today that it was never partitioned |
| 22:46.02 | Cyorxamp | *thinks |
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| 22:46.14 | Greg2 | re |
| 22:51.23 | hvontres|poodle | Cyorxamp : good luck with that hdd..:) |
| 22:51.31 | hvontres|poodle | time to go home. |
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| 23:01.50 | Greg2 | g-night all |
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| 23:47.27 | SlickMcSly | is there a vnc client in OZ? i search the feed browser for "vnc" and only vnc servers |