| 00:01.49 | CoreDump|home | Opie on Collie, GPE on Akita |
| 00:02.13 | sirius|collie | what is the browser you use on opie? |
| 00:04.07 | Greg2 | CoreDump|home: it's should be there... email |
| 00:04.34 | CoreDump|home | Greg2: will do, but not today =) |
| 00:04.41 | Greg2 | ok |
| 00:08.40 | Greg2 | CoreDump|home: please let me know the results? It's never been compared... 250- 255 |
| 00:08.41 | Greg2 | with oz using 2.6? |
| 00:09.00 | CoreDump|home | sure |
| 00:09.43 | Greg2 | thanks |
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| 00:35.50 | Greg2 | hvontres|poodle: I just compiled/bitbaked nmixer and setmixer, you have found something here... good :) |
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| 00:49.22 | sirius|Collie | keekles |
| 00:57.25 | Greg2 | g'night all |
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| 00:57.40 | GStepper | bye |
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| 01:43.43 | summatusmentis | how much of the flash is available for ram in the 3100? |
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| 09:56.53 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4/3.5.4.1 | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ | Feed browser: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/ | feeds.openzaurus.org rotates through all available mirrors |
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| 11:13.01 | Laibsch | feeds.openzaurus.org rotates through all available mirrors -> do we have a file verification scheme in place? I am effectively giving away root access to quite a lot of people here. |
| 11:13.20 | Laibsch | Something like debian does with GPG checksums? |
| 11:24.49 | Laibsch | Why is ipkg complaining about unmet dependencies when they are already fulfilled? http://rafb.net/paste/results/37ekUH12.html |
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| 12:29.48 | zxql3ooo | I have googled, read and experimented for the last few days to get my Eagletec WLAN card working on my Zaurus SL5500, but to no avail. I'm about to give up, but I was hoping someone can help me look if I did everything right |
| 12:31.01 | zxql3ooo | Under 3.5.4 I couldn't even find the hostap_cs.conf file, so I went back to 3.5.3. I have added my card but I get no sign of life from it whatsoever |
| 12:44.28 | zxql3ooo | any help would be appreciated :( I definately RTFM and would've accepted it just won't work, but there's this one single post on the oesf.org forums where an anonymous user reports this card (EagleTec 802.11b ET-CWB1000) to be working with his Zaurus SL5500 running OpenZaurus |
| 12:58.02 | TheFool | haven't much experience with this but I know my card required the downloading and installing of prism3 drivers |
| 13:00.58 | zxql3ooo | thanks, I have read about that and tried that in 3.5.4, but not in 3.5.3 yet. I will give this a shot (before trying the Sharp default OS again to see what this does) |
| 13:07.26 | zxql3ooo | I have been spending so much time on this, I just tapped my PC monitor when an internet explorer dialog popped up :D |
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| 13:12.49 | TheFool | lol, I have been having a heck of a time getting my SanDisk WiFi to work, sharp rom doesn't even see it. OZ sees it and doesn't identify it. After installing drivers it works fine...for a while, and then it is not reckognized again. It's driving me insane. |
| 13:14.48 | zxql3ooo | I feel your pain... I would've already dumped my Eagletec card and tried another one, but I just can't find any CF wlan cards for sale here in the Netherlands! Not online, not in shops... it's like the most obscure computer part around :( |
| 13:14.58 | TheFool | I was browsing the web last night, now I can't even do a package download |
| 13:15.11 | TheFool | :( |
| 13:16.11 | TheFool | why can't manufactures produces linux drivers lol, would save everyone a ton of time/effort. |
| 13:17.19 | zxql3ooo | haha, definately |
| 13:18.41 | zxql3ooo | I bought my zaurus specifically to play around with wifi, so having a non-working wlan card makes playing with the zaurus a lot less fun :( |
| 13:19.19 | TheFool | yea, same here. Where is everyone today, was sorta hoping for some guidance. |
| 13:20.59 | zxql3ooo | did you try signing up for the oesf.org forums? I did, but the administrator still has to validate my account, its taking weeks... and you cant post before that |
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| 13:22.36 | zxql3ooo | TheFool, are you running 3.5.4? I was, but hostap_cs.conf was unfindable, although hostap was installed... (just to add to the confusion ;) |
| 13:23.43 | TheFool | yea 3.5.4, and yea still waiting on acceptance to the forum. |
| 13:24.28 | TheFool | It's so annoying because it was working one reboot ago... |
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| 13:26.48 | zxql3ooo | original Sharp OS doesn't even see my card too... just like yours... so back to OZ... will try 3.5.4 again now. And hey, at least your card worked, even for a little while ;) |
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| 14:01.44 | luother | hi, is anyone using mail on the zaurus? i'm trying to get smtp auth with opie 1.2, but it does not work. mailbox unavailable. |
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| 15:03.15 | kazekazekaze | hi to all |
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| 15:59.45 | zxql3ooo | does anybody have experience with using SD wifi cards through compactflash adaptors? |
| 16:45.42 | agaffney | zxql3ooo: I wasn't even aware such a thing existed |
| 16:46.45 | luother | and where is the sense in buying a sd card if you have cf? |
| 17:04.27 | zxql3ooo | I'm in the Netherlands and I just can't find any CF cards for sale anymore, not even on ebay. And I can't get my Eagletec card to work, so I got to buy a new one |
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| 17:15.57 | TheFool | zxql3ooo: you can't just by off of US ebay and have it shipped? |
| 17:27.09 | TheFool | ack is there any reason my Z would freeze during any large set of package installs? |
| 17:27.49 | TheFool | it seems to royally screw up the whole system when it does, I think I need reiserfs lol |
| 17:29.55 | CoreDump|afk | TheFool: known problem, using ipkg on the commandline works around it |
| 17:30.16 | TheFool | ah, good to know :) was thinking it was specific to me :) |
| 17:30.43 | TheFool | so does ipk on command line work like apt-get and "get" packages off of the feeds? |
| 17:31.01 | CoreDump|bbl | TheFool: correct |
| 17:31.22 | TheFool | ok will leave you alone to go shopping, thanks. |
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| 17:46.09 | TheFool | anyway to do a search via command line of available packages? |
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| 18:23.18 | CoreDump|home | TheFool: hmm good question. There certainly is some way to do it. The feed browser from the topic should be way more comfortable tho |
| 18:49.05 | TheFool | I was thinking of mounting a folder in a remote ftp so that opie-mediaplayer could access it, any good way to do that? |
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| 18:49.47 | CoreDump|home | samba and NFS share should be mountable just fine |
| 18:50.33 | TheFool | standard commands? Do I have to install samba or is it already in OZ? |
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| 18:52.41 | thefool2 | heh, just wanted to test opie-irc, working great! |
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| 18:55.31 | TheFool | aw well I guess it's just as easy to try it myself instead of bugging you guys |
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| 20:01.10 | TheFool | poor opie-mediaplayer I don't think the creators ever expected it to index 30+ Gb's of music :-) |
| 20:04.21 | TheFool | now I just need to find a way to have my authentication sent more securely. I was originally thinking of using sftp I just can't find a package for it. |
| 20:09.49 | TheFool | Then I need apache/PHP/SQL/ oh yea and scripting languages Perl/Python/miniscript/Ruby/... God I love that this is even a possibility, although I know the whole webserver setup isn't particularly easy... Oh yea then I can get ettercap/kismet/aircrack(wonder how many hours my Z would take to crack a WEP lol) |
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| 21:01.06 | GStepper | Hi all |
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| 21:04.45 | sirius|collie | hi |
| 21:17.47 | CoreDump|home | hey |
| 21:22.34 | CoreDump|home | http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Poodle/Misc/updater-reloaded.jpg |
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| 21:49.38 | agaffney | hmm, the time/date setup thing in opie doesn't seem to take the timezone into account when fetching time from the network |
| 21:49.59 | TheFool | ? did for me. |
| 21:50.45 | agaffney | my timezone is set as Chicago, which is 0600 |
| 21:50.55 | agaffney | but it's setting the time as 21:50 |
| 21:51.02 | agaffney | which is UTC |
| 21:51.10 | hrw | install full timezones package |
| 21:52.03 | TheFool | well there ya go, I guess that package was one of the dozens of random packages I installed. |
| 21:52.47 | agaffney | hrw: it is |
| 21:53.54 | TheFool | dumb question, is opie-ftp broken? According to my FTP server it connects, but then it refuses to actually view any directories/files |
| 21:54.28 | agaffney | TheFool: try passive mode |
| 21:54.38 | agaffney | is your FTP server behind NAT? |
| 21:55.29 | TheFool | yes |
| 21:55.41 | agaffney | then turn off passive mode P |
| 21:55.42 | agaffney | :P |
| 21:55.43 | TheFool | and, does opie-ftp support passive mode? |
| 21:55.56 | TheFool | it's off on the server |
| 21:55.58 | agaffney | hrw: odd, the timezones package was installed, but none of the timezones-* packages were |
| 21:56.20 | hrw | not odd. they use too much flash |
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| 21:57.34 | agaffney | ah, I figured timezones was a metapkg |
| 21:57.42 | agaffney | that depended on all of them |
| 21:59.38 | newguy2 | so um how the heck do I turn passive-mode off in opie-ftp/doies it even have passive mode? |
| 21:59.39 | agaffney | meh, wth |
| 21:59.54 | agaffney | date/time shows 15:59, but the opie time thing on the bottom shows 21:59 |
| 21:59.56 | newguy2 | agaffney: still no luck? |
| 22:00.35 | newguy2 | I would hope it just needs to refresh |
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| 22:01.07 | agaffney | it alread did |
| 22:01.13 | agaffney | it changed from :58 to :59 |
| 22:01.21 | agaffney | now it's 22:01 |
| 22:02.47 | agaffney | heh, it displays properly now when I restart opie |
| 22:02.55 | newguy2 | :) good |
| 22:04.21 | Ober | does the c3100 have a way to restore to default from what is on it's flash? |
| 22:09.24 | CoreDump|home | Ober: a NAND restore should do the trick |
| 22:09.47 | CoreDump|home | yay for the first boot of a Poodle with a native root on SD |
| 22:11.07 | Ober | yeah that is the same as factory reset right |
| 22:11.09 | Ober | ? |
| 22:11.17 | agaffney | CoreDump|home: meaning...no altboot tricks? |
| 22:11.33 | CoreDump|home | exactly |
| 22:11.36 | agaffney | nice |
| 22:11.43 | agaffney | that's impossible on collie, right? |
| 22:12.01 | agaffney | well, not remotely feasible at the current time :P |
| 22:12.02 | CoreDump|home | right :\ (due to lack of kernel 2.6) |
| 22:12.13 | agaffney | oh, is it possible with a 2.6 kernel? |
| 22:12.24 | CoreDump|home | yeah |
| 22:12.35 | agaffney | I thought few details were known about the built-in bootloader, and that was why |
| 22:12.43 | agaffney | or is this with kexec? |
| 22:12.48 | CoreDump|home | no |
| 22:12.58 | CoreDump|home | bootloader boots the kernel |
| 22:13.04 | CoreDump|home | kernel mounts SD as root |
| 22:13.05 | CoreDump|home | done |
| 22:13.18 | Ober | ok so to make sure I dont brick this thing, I need to use the d+m method to get an english service menu to restore? |
| 22:13.21 | newguy2 | sweet |
| 22:13.48 | agaffney | CoreDump|home: ah, ok, so the kernel still boots off internal memory |
| 22:13.54 | CoreDump|home | correct |
| 22:14.12 | CoreDump|home | Ober: on trisoft.de there is a manual somewhere |
| 22:14.15 | agaffney | I thought for some reason that the kernel was being booted from SD as well :) |
| 22:14.22 | newguy2 | CoreDump|home: so does that mean new releases for the poodle will have the kernel mounting SD as root by default? |
| 22:14.26 | Ober | thanks. I have instructions, but many are in japanese :P |
| 22:14.48 | CoreDump|home | Ober: trisoft has german and english manuals |
| 22:15.14 | CoreDump|home | newguy2: For new releases of Hentges that is correct |
| 22:15.22 | newguy2 | sweetness |
| 22:16.56 | Ober | ok will search |
| 22:17.02 | agaffney | CoreDump|home: do you have any idea why altboot always fails to create the SD rootfs (loopback or otherwise) on collie with the OZ 3.5.4 and hentges 3.5.4.1? |
| 22:17.45 | CoreDump|home | agaffney: most likely the reason is an SD card which does not like to be formatted ext2. |
| 22:18.12 | CoreDump|home | 99.995% of problems are caused by crappy SD cards |
| 22:18.21 | agaffney | CoreDump|home: well, I was able to do the process manually with my laptop and it boots just fine and runs great |
| 22:18.23 | CoreDump|home | s/problems/altboot problems/ |
| 22:18.48 | CoreDump|home | agaffney: interesting. what was the error message? |
| 22:19.04 | agaffney | CoreDump|home: usually, a failed ioctl |
| 22:19.06 | agaffney | I can't remember |
| 22:19.19 | agaffney | there seems to be someone in here every week or so hitting the same thing |
| 22:19.44 | agaffney | iirc, it's a failed ioctl mounting the newly created loopback image |
| 22:19.47 | agaffney | it still works though |
| 22:19.57 | Ober | ok that did not work |
| 22:19.59 | agaffney | and then when it boots into that, a bunch of missing files and I/O errors |
| 22:20.15 | agaffney | but I create the loopback and extract the rootfs from my linux laptop, it works great |
| 22:20.28 | agaffney | altboot loads it up and it boots without problems |
| 22:20.49 | agaffney | I'd try to reproduce it right now, but I don't have the card reader to re-fix it :) |
| 22:21.47 | CoreDump|home | I do remember some ioctl message but it was harmless (IIRC) |
| 22:21.56 | agaffney | well, I thought it was harmless, too |
| 22:22.07 | agaffney | but there was always corruption in the resulting loopback image |
| 22:22.28 | agaffney | but none at all from the laptop |
| 22:22.35 | CoreDump|home | ouch |
| 22:22.36 | Ober | oh I remember why I dont put linux on this thing... |
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| 22:22.40 | newguy2 | I had the (exact) same problem |
| 22:23.14 | CoreDump|home | agaffney: you hit the problem w/ loop and direct installs? |
| 22:23.15 | agaffney | CoreDump|home: I'm surprised you didn't know about this |
| 22:23.27 | agaffney | CoreDump|home: I can't recall if I hit it for direct install on SD |
| 22:23.35 | agaffney | CoreDump|home: I may not have even tried it |
| 22:23.42 | CoreDump|home | agaffney: I haven't used the installer in ages. |
| 22:23.57 | agaffney | and this was an ext2 loopback on a fat16-formatted SD card |
| 22:24.22 | CoreDump|home | I'll run some tests when I get the chance |
| 22:24.26 | newguy2 | hmm for me it was an ext2 loopback on a ext2 formatted card |
| 22:24.46 | TheFool | but when I reformated it to fat16 it worked |
| 22:30.13 | TheFool | ooh another dumb question, is there any way to bulk add files to the documents tab, basically I want to add a few hundred files in a number of different folders all inside one big folder, something command line would be great :). The reason for this is I want the remote share I mounted to show up under audio for opie-mediaplayer. |
| 22:33.03 | TheFool | ah, I might have been as well if it were not for the fact that I was told it would take more resources |
| 22:33.22 | CoreDump|home | it does |
| 22:33.28 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 22:33.56 | agaffney | I need to setup a GPE loopback install |
| 22:34.08 | agaffney | that was the original reason for doing loopback instead of direct |
| 22:34.13 | agaffney | to have multiple installs |
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| 22:38.20 | Greg2 | hello all |
| 22:38.44 | CoreDump|home | hi Greg2 |
| 22:39.02 | Greg2 | hi CoreDump|home |
| 22:39.45 | CoreDump|home | agaffney: http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/Altboot/altboot-4.jpg |
| 22:42.14 | agaffney | heh |
| 22:47.28 | TheFool | is there a better browser for OE than embedded-konqueror, it doesn't even display radio buttons. |
| 22:48.13 | hrw | OE does not have browsers |
| 22:48.14 | TheFool | I meant OZ...sorry just finished setting up OE |
| 22:48.34 | TheFool | wooops |
| 22:51.27 | TheFool | so...anyone? Or am I alone in my problems with konqueror-embedded? |
| 22:51.49 | CoreDump|home | well, actually yes |
| 22:51.51 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 22:52.19 | TheFool | bah, so it works for you? Or you just use dillo? |
| 22:52.49 | CoreDump|home | I don't surf all that much w/ my Zs. But if I do, I usually use Firefox |
| 22:53.11 | TheFool | and where might I find that beauty? |
| 22:53.24 | CoreDump|home | on oesf.org there might be a link to some opera ipk that may or may not work |
| 22:53.25 | TheFool | I didn't know it was ported to OZ |
| 22:53.31 | CoreDump|home | TheFool: in the GPE feeds |
| 22:53.51 | TheFool | ok so opera it is |
| 22:54.07 | CoreDump|home | http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/GPE/1.0.0-wip-20061022/firefox-00.jpg |
| 22:54.09 | TheFool | was hoping to go opensource :) |
| 22:54.37 | CoreDump|home | yeah, the browser situation pretty much sucks on opie :\ |
| 22:54.54 | Greg2 | hrw: OE has a browser... a filebrowser :-) -> http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser |
| 22:55.28 | CoreDump|home | =) |
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| 23:41.07 | TheFool | dang no decent browser for opie |
| 23:41.43 | TheFool | and opera doesn't work due to the whole floating point thing |
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| 23:44.01 | agaffney | opera works fine for me |
| 23:44.54 | Greg2 | and me |
| 23:49.46 | Greg2 | TheFool: what model Z do you have? |
| 23:56.56 | Greg2 | it's time for tv and a beer :) g'night all |
| 23:57.02 | *** part/#openzaurus Greg2 (n=greg@pool-71-168-49-19.hag.east.verizon.net) |
