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| 01:48.29 | Davo_Dinkum | Hi. Any Aussies in here? |
| 01:55.49 | Davo_Dinkum | *Anyone* in here? |
| 02:06.17 | NAbyss | Davo_Dinkum: Yep, .au here. |
| 02:06.43 | Davo_Dinkum | What Zaurus have you got and where did you get it from? |
| 02:07.13 | NAbyss | c3100 from pricejapan.com |
| 02:07.46 | Davo_Dinkum | How much was it in $AU? |
| 02:08.45 | NAbyss | Hmm, 750 or so |
| 02:09.12 | Davo_Dinkum | Bit pricey. |
| 02:10.03 | Davo_Dinkum | What would a C1000 be worth? |
| 02:10.35 | NAbyss | Take a lopok on the site |
| 02:10.50 | NAbyss | 461 AUD for a C1000, 671 for a C3200 |
| 02:15.55 | AzzIzzA | i just got a c1000 off ebay for 360+ph |
| 02:16.05 | Davo_Dinkum | Is it worth the money? |
| 02:16.12 | AzzIzzA | i love it |
| 02:16.15 | Davo_Dinkum | 360? What currency? |
| 02:16.20 | AzzIzzA | needs a wireless card though |
| 02:16.22 | AzzIzzA | au$ |
| 02:17.01 | Davo_Dinkum | What wireless cards does it take? CF-based? |
| 02:17.23 | AzzIzzA | there is a list on the oz wiki somewhere |
| 02:17.39 | Davo_Dinkum | We have an oz wiki? |
| 02:17.55 | AzzIzzA | oz= open zaurus |
| 02:18.03 | AzzIzzA | not aussie :) |
| 02:18.43 | NAbyss | Davo_Dinkum: AFAIk, the 1000 has a CF slot, and a SD slot |
| 02:18.44 | Davo_Dinkum | Ah. |
| 02:19.05 | AzzIzzA | and usb host, but ive had a bit of trouble finding a compatable usb nic |
| 02:19.06 | Davo_Dinkum | The SD slot takes MMC as well, wouldn't it? |
| 02:19.09 | AzzIzzA | easier to go cf |
| 02:19.11 | NAbyss | There's been a couple of users playing with a secondary internal CF slot, but I've not heard as to success. |
| 02:19.16 | AzzIzzA | yes, but not sdio |
| 02:19.43 | Kevin` | sd, is of course, proprietary.. |
| 02:20.07 | Kevin` | probably something to do with the security/drm part of it |
| 02:20.23 | Kevin` | or just collecting licensing :) |
| 02:21.53 | AzzIzzA | i think its just that there arent any drivers available for the 2.6 kernel |
| 02:22.41 | Kevin` | no i'm quite sure that any driver for linux would have to legally come from a license paying sd member :) |
| 02:22.46 | Kevin` | and could not be open source |
| 02:23.24 | Kevin` | probably legal to reverse engineer it though :) |
| 02:23.25 | AzzIzzA | regardless of where it would have to come from i dont think it exists |
| 02:24.06 | Kevin` | http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:Op6AlLPkklMJ:www.arasan.com/products/prod_overview/SDIO-Linux-Flyer-1-0.pdf+sdio+linux+2.6&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a |
| 02:25.27 | Kevin` | sounds rather unfree, of course |
| 02:25.42 | Kevin` | who would spend all that time and money to give something away to the community, after all :/ |
| 02:29.09 | Davo_Dinkum | In order to comply with SD standards, SD card must be compatiable with MMC. So all you need is an MMC driver. |
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| 04:59.13 | NAbyss | Hi all.. figured it's about time I get off my arse, and start developing apps for the Zaurus. What's the general consensus on the future of Opie/GPE.. is Opie pretty much dead? Any tips on where to start with developing for either would be appreciated. |
| 05:00.17 | summatusmentis | NAbyss, GPE would probably be easier(as it's X based) |
| 05:00.23 | summatusmentis | not that I really know... |
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| 05:26.11 | AzzIzzA | NAbyss: i dont think opie is anywhere near dead |
| 05:26.53 | AzzIzzA | gpe is popular amongst developers and ppl after a mini laptop, opie is popular amongst ppl who want a pda on steroids |
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| 14:46.56 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 16:46.19 | mimecar | hi |
| 16:46.29 | hrw | ho |
| 16:46.38 | mimecar | evening hrw |
| 16:57.49 | enginuitor | Where is the config file that determines what driver is loaded for a given PC card manufacturer and product ID? |
| 16:58.04 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.10 | hrw | and /etc/pcmcia/config |
| 16:59.30 | enginuitor | oops, never mind |
| 16:59.34 | enginuitor | Card just started magically working |
| 16:59.41 | enginuitor | Pull-and-reset works wonders :-D |
| 17:01.11 | enginuitor | Does anyone else notice that their SL-5*00 makes a horrible near-ultrasonic screeching noise during high-power operation, e.g. backlight full-on, battery charging, high CPU load, etc.? |
| 17:01.30 | mimecar | only on battery charge |
| 17:01.54 | mimecar | but the noise is produced by the charger |
| 17:02.05 | enginuitor | They both produce noise for me |
| 17:02.21 | enginuitor | The noise from the charger isn't all that bad, since I can stick it under my desk where I can't hear it as well |
| 17:02.37 | enginuitor | ...but the noise from the unit itself starts to get irritating after a while |
| 17:02.40 | mimecar | I haven't that sound on normal use |
| 17:02.51 | enginuitor | Probably my lucky unit :-) |
| 17:03.18 | enginuitor | My theory is that under high load the power starts to get noisy, and voltage fluctuations make it to the buzzer circuit |
| 17:03.49 | enginuitor | I almost considered physically "disabling" the buzzer, but I don't feel like opening my Zaurus yet again |
| 17:04.05 | mimecar | is not a good idea |
| 17:04.24 | enginuitor | Right :-) |
| 17:04.25 | mimecar | what are the apps make this problem ? |
| 17:04.36 | enginuitor | I can make it happen even when nothing's running |
| 17:05.01 | mimecar | xDDD |
| 17:05.06 | enginuitor | If I turn the screen brightness up to maximum, it makes a constant noise |
| 17:05.15 | enginuitor | If I do something like copy a bunch of files, I can hear a pulsating noise |
| 17:05.16 | mimecar | why don'y you chante the battery ? |
| 17:05.30 | mimecar | s / chante / shange |
| 17:05.33 | enginuitor | I have a spare one around somewhere, but I can't find it |
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| 20:01.54 | enginuitor | Does anyone here use wpa_supplicant in OpenZaurus |
| 20:01.55 | enginuitor | ? |
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| 20:58.52 | enginuitor | I'm trying to play an mp3 stream over HTTP. XMMS-e SIGABRTs when I hit play, and mplayer works but freezes the screen until I kill it remotely... |
| 20:59.09 | enginuitor | Why is mplayer screwing with the display when playing an *audio* file? |
| 21:00.41 | enginuitor | I'm going to try the Opie media players |
| 21:00.50 | enginuitor | What's the difference between mediaplayer1 and mediaplayer2? |
| 21:01.12 | enginuitor | Which would be best for a simple task like playing a remote MP3 stream? |
| 21:01.13 | hrw | backend |
| 21:01.40 | enginuitor | like... |
| 21:01.59 | enginuitor | Oh, wait, which question was that in response to? |
| 21:02.03 | hrw | 18 22:02 < enginuitor> What's the difference between mediaplayer1 and mediaplayer2? |
| 21:02.06 | enginuitor | ah |
| 21:02.07 | enginuitor | ok |
| 21:02.18 | hrw | mp1 has it simpler |
| 21:02.21 | enginuitor | Is either one "better", or is it just a matter of personal preference? |
| 21:02.22 | enginuitor | ok |
| 21:02.22 | hrw | mp2 use xine |
| 21:02.33 | hrw | for mp3 files I would choose mp1 |
| 21:02.38 | enginuitor | ok |
| 21:02.41 | hrw | for streams: no idea |
| 21:02.41 | enginuitor | That's what I'll try |
| 21:02.48 | enginuitor | Well, maybe I'll install both |
| 21:04.33 | enginuitor | Are the Xine libs included in the opie-mediaplayer2 package, or must they be installed separately? |
| 21:04.53 | hrw | opie-mediaplayer2 depends on libxine and subset of plugins |
| 21:05.30 | enginuitor | ok |
| 21:05.37 | enginuitor | What feed are all those under? |
| 21:05.49 | enginuitor | I can't seem to find them |
| 21:05.57 | hrw | I do not remember - use feedbrowser |
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| 21:50.18 | enginuitor | hmm |
| 21:50.25 | enginuitor | mpg321 has http streaming support, doesn't it? |
| 21:50.54 | enginuitor | yes! |
| 21:51.16 | enginuitor | hmm |
| 21:51.27 | enginuitor | I can't tell how to adjust the buffer/cache size for it, though |
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| 22:39.07 | enginuitor | Does anyone know how to run mplayer in such a way that it does not freeze the screen? |
| 22:39.32 | hrw|tv | mplayer -vo null? |
| 22:40.28 | enginuitor | Tried it |
| 22:41.20 | enginuitor | I can't find a SINGLE media player that will properly play a remote MP3 stream over HTTP |
| 22:41.36 | enginuitor | XMMS goes SIGABRT when I hit Play |
| 22:42.08 | enginuitor | opie-mediaplayer2 sits there forever, and occasionally flashes random messages like "buffering 2%" on the taskbar, but never plays anything |
| 22:42.22 | enginuitor | mpg321 actually produces audio, but it skips a lot |
| 22:42.49 | enginuitor | mplayer works fine, but freezes the screen and needs to be killed remotely before the device is usable again |
| 22:42.51 | hrw|tv | I do not use any Z currently |
| 22:43.15 | hrw|tv | and now I go back to it crowd |
| 22:43.32 | enginuitor | heh heh, ok |
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| 23:13.03 | heath | anyone happen to have a c7x0 series zaurus for sale? |
| 23:13.31 | hrw|tv | depends how much you want to offer :) |
| 23:13.57 | heath | I can't tell how much they are going for on ebay, so I'm not sure what a good price is |
| 23:14.08 | hrw|tv | so do I |
| 23:14.19 | hrw|tv | but I will rather stay with my c760 |
| 23:14.30 | CoreDump|afk | hrw|tv: =) |
| 23:14.40 | heath | oh no problem I'm just asking incase someone wants to part with theirs :) |
| 23:14.57 | hrw|tv | heath: I have 4 Z on desk - unused |
| 23:15.20 | heath | 4 Z / |
| 23:15.21 | heath | ? |
| 23:15.57 | hrw|tv | 5500, 6000, 760, 3000 |
| 23:17.26 | heath | yea, I have to keep it around $300 |
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| 23:18.05 | heath | I had a 5500 a while back, but now I've started a job where I actually need a PDA |
| 23:25.57 | heath_afk | climb |
| 23:39.44 | hrw|tv | cu |