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00:00.21CoreDump|home;)
00:01.58mimecarCoreDump|home: would gpe programs run on Angstrom ?
00:02.34mimecarie, if i develop on program for gtk and gpe, it will work on agstron
00:02.44CoreDump|homeof course. Angstrom will provide gpe images
00:02.53mimecarok
00:03.07CoreDump|homejust no opie stuff
00:03.12mimecarI playe with gtk, and it's interesting
00:03.54mimecarbut opie stuff can be runned on a x server
00:04.02mimecarxqt for example
00:04.58CoreDump|homethe opie stuff is unmaintained for quite some time now, that's why it was dropped from angstrom
00:05.16mimecarI didn't know that
00:05.53CoreDump|homebbl
00:06.05mimecarHow to make a Koen   Ingredients:
00:06.05mimecar3 parts intelligence
00:06.05mimecar3 parts self-sufficiency
00:06.05mimecar3 parts leadership   Method:
00:06.05mimecarLayer ingredientes in a shot glass. Top it off with a sprinkle of lustfulness and enjoy!
00:06.07mimecarxDDD
00:06.39mimecarnight CoreDump|bbl
00:07.03CoreDump|bblwill be back in an hour or so
00:07.23mimecarI'm going to sleep on 5 minutes
00:08.37mimecarnight all
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00:14.52Greg2hello all
00:15.03summatusmentishey there Greg2
00:15.14Greg2hi summatusmentis
00:36.35summatusmentishow easy would it be to adopt the CF driver to SD?
00:43.32CoreDump|homesummatusmentis: impossible
00:45.54summatusmentisCoreDump|home, why?
00:46.41CoreDump|homethe cf driver has nothing in common w/ the sd one
00:47.37summatusmentisCF is pcmcia.... I forgot about that
00:49.10Greg2hey CoreDump|home
00:49.34CoreDump|homehi Greg2
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09:45.54peb|terrierhi guys, how are your Z's today behaving? well?
09:48.08CoreDump|homemine are still sleepin...lazy bastards ;)
09:55.26peb|terrierHi CoreDump, I've to check mine. he got jealouse yesterday,
09:55.55peb|terrierdue to the fact that I got a BenQMobile P51 to play with. The problem with the phone: Windows MObile :-)
09:55.57CoreDump|homeheh
09:56.28CoreDump|homebenq / siemens made it to my life-ling shit-list biiig time
09:56.34peb|terrierAny Idea on how I can fix the problem with the dist-upgrade issue?
09:56.36CoreDump|homes/ling/long
09:56.53CoreDump|homesince you didn't explain "issue", not really
09:57.04peb|terrierBenqMobile: I'm one of the guys 1150 and waiting for the final decision if we and how we go on :-|
09:58.04CoreDump|homeugh, sorry to hear that :\
09:59.22peb|terrieroK. Issue. I'm starting dist-upgrade, the list-upgrade v0.0.5 tells me that the downloading feed data for version 1.0.0 is ok. Than I'm having a problem with updating ipkg lists where I get an error (not ok and the program goes on and tries the fallback option, that also runs into problems
10:00.06CoreDump|homehmm
10:02.40CoreDump|homeahhh terrier
10:03.29CoreDump|homewell it should identify as spitz
10:03.36peb|terrieryeah
10:03.55peb|terrierwhere shout it identify as spitz? I've changed the hsotname to terrier, that shouldn't be a problem, or?
10:04.14peb|terriersa /hsot/host/
10:06.24peb|terrierwhy is the hostname (sorry, identify:) needed and how, because the ipkg list just says failed. are the sources for dist-upgrade somewhere online so that I can debug this myself?
10:08.34CoreDump|homenot that is not the problem
10:08.39CoreDump|homethe hostname that is
10:08.59CoreDump|homelist /tmp/dist-upgrade for me please
10:11.23peb|terrierlist not found :-) (ok /ls /tmp/dist-upgrade - no such file or directory)
10:11.41CoreDump|homeand just /tmp?
10:12.04CoreDump|home0.0.5 is quite old but the update should have worked anyway
10:12.58peb|terrierquite a few files with pkg.* (5 letters for the *), ipkg.* (5 letters here too), orbit-peb, mc-peb mc-root, spotkoord.txt ..
10:13.54peb|terrierah and a file list-update.current, feeds.conf confd-peb
10:14.07CoreDump|homeno *feed* or *dist-upgrade* ?
10:14.41peb|terriersorry .. dist-update.current is the file .-)
10:15.06CoreDump|homepaste the content please
10:16.09peb|terriersrc hentges-machine-upgrades http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/stable/machine-upgrades/spitz/
10:16.38peb|terriersrc hentges-upgrades http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/stable/common-upgrades/
10:16.43peb|terrierthat*s it
10:17.15CoreDump|homeyeah well, these URLs are fine.
10:19.07CoreDump|homecan you ssh into your Z and copy and paste the complete output of dist-upgrade?
10:20.20peb|terrierI can, give me a couple of minutes :)
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10:52.44CoreDump|homepeb|terrier: you still there? Are you sure your Z's inet connection is ok?
11:01.52peb|terrierHi coredump, yes, i'm here. the inet connection is allright, I'm just preparing the stuff for you.
11:09.54peb|terriermsg CoreDump|home http://www.eberl.com/public/SharpZaurus/index.html
11:11.13CoreDump|homecan you access http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/stable/machine-upgrades/spitz/ from your Z?
11:13.07peb|terrier404 :-)
11:13.20CoreDump|homecan't be
11:13.45CoreDump|hometry wget http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/stable/machine-upgrades/spitz/Packages
11:14.27peb|terrierI tried w/ wget but with a wildcard -- with the package it works without a problem
11:14.54peb|terriersorry, I'v to take care of my daughter -- I'm back in around 30 min.
11:15.12CoreDump|homenp
11:15.30CoreDump|homeyou might wanna try installing http://oz.hentges.net/hentges-feeds/1.0.x/stable/machine-upgrades/spitz/dist-upgrade_0.1.1-r0_spitz.ipk manually and try again
11:31.56Laibsc1I selected Berlin as my timezone in GPE.  But the time updated via ntpdate is off by an hour.  What can I do?
11:35.27Laibsch~seen france
11:35.46ibotfrance is currently on #gpe #familiar #oe #opie #handhelds.org, last said: 'it is that time...'.
11:45.19LaibschIs it a bad idea to have two or more entries named the same in ipkg.conf like http://rafb.net/paste/results/jXHCZv76.html ?
11:47.08CoreDump|homegood question
11:47.21CoreDump|homeI personally would avoid this situation
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11:52.25peb|terrierOK, back
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12:08.57peb|terrierCoredump, also on dist-upgrade 0.1.1 the updating ipkg lists failed.
12:12.02CoreDump|homewell, dunno. The URLs are fine
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12:27.50LaibschCoreDump|home: I assume it would be a bad idea since the information per feed is stored in /var/lib/ipkg/$FEEDNAME
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12:45.43LaibschHow do I remove an applet from the GPE panel?
12:45.59peb|terriercan some please be so kind and hand me this fxxx 512mb CF card so that I can re-flash my Z?
12:46.17peb|terrierCoredump: can alt-boot flash from the network or the local HD on a terrier?
12:54.19dmn_CoreDump|home, do you need any new mirror? hrw said you are the mirror-master :P
12:54.35dmn_on gbit network
12:55.06CoreDump|homedmn_: thanks for the offer =) But currently we have more than enough mirrors ;)
12:55.09CoreDump|homepeb|terrier: nope
12:55.47CoreDump|homeLaibsch: click-hold on an empty place on the taskbar,
12:56.20peb|terriercoredump, choosing 6 it says boot from nfs (network file system)?  so I cant use this ... sad :-(
12:56.25LaibschAh, an empty place!  I was clicking the to-be-removed panel itself.
12:56.27LaibschThanks
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13:54.15CoreDump|homepeb|terrier: you can boot off NFS but not flash from it ;)
13:54.25CoreDump|homeLaibsch: np
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14:13.44LaibschI am always receiving the error "file_move: ERROR: failed to rename //usr/lib/ipkg/status.tmp to //usr/lib/ipkg/status: No such file or directory" when I install stuff recently.  Anybody know the likely cause?
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16:22.20ballegood evening
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17:45.37JohnnyAkitahello just getting going wtih OZ want to confirm understanding.  Does the feed browser show every package that's available in the default feeds found under /etc/ipkg/*.conf
17:46.17JohnnyAkitaand there are no other feeds available... just cause i'm looking for a few thigns i'm surprised are missing..
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18:22.20pgfeller~seen hrw
18:22.46ibothrw <n=hrw@ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2h 54m 46s ago, saying: 'cu'.
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19:27.56LaibschJohnnyAkita: What are you looking for?
19:28.08LaibschI am always receiving the error "file_move: ERROR: failed to rename //usr/lib/ipkg/status.tmp to //usr/lib/ipkg/status: No such file or directory" when I install stuff recently.  Anybody know the likely cause?
19:44.29pgfellerping hrw
19:46.05hrwho
19:46.39pgfellerhrw: do I remember right, that you also offer support & dev. work for payment?
19:47.19hrwpgfeller: thats what for I created own company
19:49.46pgfellerhrw: I would need some support/help with one of my project - and I'm willing to pay for this ... but I would need an offer, so that I know how expensive it would be
19:50.00JohnnyAkitaLaibsch: I was looking for modules required to use iptables
19:51.20hrwpgfeller: got msg?
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19:52.01pgfellerhrw: no ... what media - email, irc
19:52.06hrwirc
19:52.28pgfellerhrw: the last I´ve seen is that you`ve create your own company
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19:55.59hrwre-identified to nickserv..
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20:51.50peb|terrierHi guys, any idea on how I can capture all installed packages (ipkg) and the system setting, so that as soon as I move on to a new kernel/snapshot, I simply "run"/reinstall this setting and have all of my stuff back?
21:11.00peb|terrierHi, just a test http://www.test_my_script.com/myfiles
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21:54.49summatusmentishttp://www.g-loaded.eu/2005/11/10/encrypt-devices-using-dm-crypt-and-luks/ could that be used to encrypt the zaurus?
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23:02.42summatusmentishas anyone had any hardware issues with their 3200?
23:03.01peb|terrierNope - what did you notice?
23:06.10summatusmentisnothing, I'm probably going to be upgrading from my 5500 soon, and I'm wondering how worthwhile a 12 month warranty would be over a 1month warranty
23:13.28peb|terrieragain, mine is running fine. I have it now nearly 1 month :-)
23:13.42summatusmentiswhere'd you get it?
23:14.27peb|terriertrisoft.de .-)
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23:17.28summatusmentisah...
23:17.47summatusmentisI'm leaning towards used from conics.net
23:19.03peb|terrieri got mine from trisoft before they increased the price :-)
23:19.26summatusmentis:-/ yeah
23:19.39summatusmentisI guess do you think it's safe to order used vs. new?
23:25.14peb|terrierI'm uncertain about that: I grew up with the HP200LX, and buying a used one there was fine - weaknesses known, so you could prepare for it. the weakness here at the Z I currently assume to be the keyboards, the harddisk (how stable are they) and the rotating screen.
23:29.52summatusmentisyeah.... I ordered my 5500 from ebay, and it worked fine
23:29.59summatusmentisnow it may have been refurbed, not used...
23:58.56summatusmentispeb|terrier, are you using your 3200 for irc?

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