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| 00:49.40 | nima | Does the C-1000 have an internal CF slot? |
| 00:50.32 | CoreDump|afk | no |
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| 00:58.14 | zap-zero | hi |
| 00:58.52 | zap-zero | could it be that 3.5.3 has a bug where the zaurus suspends while on ac even if the setting says 'never' for ac, but 60sec for 'battery'? |
| 00:59.08 | zap-zero | also, it doesn't seem to awake from this 'suspend' w/o a full reset :( |
| 00:59.23 | zap-zero | i'll upgrade to 3.5.4 now and hope the problem'll go away |
| 01:07.06 | CoreDump|home | zap-zero: yeah, I remember such a problem. It should be fixed in 3.5.4(.1) |
| 01:07.25 | zap-zero | cool |
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| 01:17.12 | zap-zero | is there already a 2.6.x kernel image available for collie for openzaurus 3.5.4? |
| 01:18.16 | zap-zero | 3.5.4/images/collie/ probably only has 2.4.x images, but in 3.5.4.2/feed/machine/collie/ there's a file named kernel-image-2.6.17_2.6.17-r22_collie.ipk |
| 01:18.19 | zap-zero | (?) |
| 01:20.55 | JustinP | zap-zero: the rc for 3.5.4.2 has 2.6. However, there's no SD support |
| 01:21.21 | zap-zero | oic :( |
| 01:24.00 | zap-zero | are the specs for the sd card reader closed? or does just nobody get around to writing the driver for 2.6? |
| 01:26.53 | CoreDump|home | the latter |
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| 01:27.58 | summatusmentis | zap-zero, I have plans to work on one within the next month, it'll be my first kernel project, so I don't know how successful I'll be.... |
| 01:28.16 | zap-zero | ic |
| 01:28.20 | zap-zero | good luck |
| 01:29.11 | summatusmentis | thanks, I really don't want to lose support for the collie |
| 01:30.54 | zap-zero | if i'd time and not already 27 other items in my .plan, i'd probably work at the sd driver too :) |
| 01:31.14 | zap-zero | though i'm also not very experienced with kernel stuff yet |
| 01:37.15 | summatusmentis | this'll be my first project, but I figure why not? |
| 01:38.20 | Mavez-San | summatusmentis got openbsd 4.0 current :) |
| 01:38.34 | Mavez-San | now i need to build all my apps again |
| 01:38.36 | Mavez-San | >_< |
| 01:38.58 | zap-zero | yeah... you probably can learn much from already existing drivers for other sd readers |
| 01:45.50 | summatusmentis | zap-zero, that's the plan |
| 01:46.02 | summatusmentis | Mavez-San, just let me know how usable it is... |
| 01:50.05 | Mavez-San | yeh sure thing ill get it all sorted in a day or too |
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| 01:50.12 | Mavez-San | then tell ya how it goes |
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| 02:04.55 | summatusmentis | Mavez-San, cool, I'm going to be purchasing a 3200 soon, and I've always toyed w/ the idea of using openbsd... |
| 02:08.21 | JuicyJ | I can't flash Sharp's OSPACKs any more on my collie. Have any other 5500 owners seen/heard of this before? |
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| 02:18.41 | CoreDump|home | JuicyJ: reformat CF card, verify download is not damaged and try again |
| 02:21.39 | summatusmentis | anyone have any idea how long it takes a soldering gun to heat up? |
| 02:22.01 | CoreDump|home | depends on the gun of course ;) |
| 02:22.26 | summatusmentis | on average? |
| 02:22.34 | summatusmentis | or is it really that different? |
| 02:22.38 | CoreDump|home | it is |
| 02:22.51 | summatusmentis | :-/ alright, i'll wait it out I guess |
| 02:23.14 | CoreDump|home | I know battery driven models that heat up in <1m, and I know AC driven models that need 3 times that |
| 02:23.21 | JuicyJ | CoreDump, Thanks, I've tried both. I formatted my card with my xp machine. I should also say that this is a card I know I've used before |
| 02:23.45 | CoreDump|home | JuicyJ: try formating it w/ a camera or some such |
| 02:24.01 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home, the one I'm using is a cheap Radio Shack one, w/ a power plug(AC, I think) |
| 02:24.10 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: basically, if the solder melts on contact, it is hot enuff ;) |
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| 02:24.42 | summatusmentis | thanks for that, I gathered that much :-P |
| 02:24.46 | CoreDump|home | =D |
| 02:25.21 | summatusmentis | stupid science fair project, I should've picked something easier, or started earlier, or something |
| 02:25.32 | CoreDump|home | or something hehe |
| 02:27.01 | summatusmentis | I just want to sit, and yearn after a new 3200 |
| 02:27.19 | CoreDump|home | FWIW, there is solder with very high melting point out there. If your gun doesn't get that hot, you'll way forever =) |
| 02:27.53 | CoreDump|home | kolla: I couldn't even imaging my collie w/o SD |
| 02:28.02 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home, I'll use the solder that came w/ the gun, to see if it's hot enough... |
| 02:29.04 | kolla | CoreDump|home: why not.. 8GB CF card, usbdnet for network and syncing documents (music and TV series episodes)... |
| 02:29.06 | summatusmentis | it was plugged into the wrong power strip... |
| 02:29.20 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: =D |
| 02:29.29 | CoreDump|home | kolla: I prefer CF WIFI ;) |
| 02:30.05 | kolla | I found it much easier to live with when I just dropped CF wifi :) |
| 02:30.37 | CoreDump|home | some one will write the sd driver eventually |
| 02:31.00 | kolla | ywah well.. I care a heck lot more about the keyboard and stylus myself ;) |
| 02:31.19 | CoreDump|home | heh |
| 02:31.36 | CoreDump|home | bbl in an hour or so |
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| 05:05.13 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home, is a 12 month warranty really necessary? |
| 05:05.54 | CoreDump|home | well, no. But that doesn't mean your Z couldn't die withing 12 month of course |
| 05:08.15 | summatusmentis | well right, but is it a reason to spend the extra $30? |
| 05:10.05 | CoreDump|home | IMO no |
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| 07:24.49 | [Outcast] | the 5500 is a punk ass |
| 07:25.45 | [Outcast] | has one loaded open zaurus on the 5500? |
| 07:28.35 | [Outcast] | I need to know if a 512 CF card is to large to use when flashing? |
| 07:30.13 | NAbyss_ | [Outcast]: I've used a 2gb CF card with my 3100.. I'd assume 512 wouldn't be an issue with the 5500 |
| 07:30.24 | NAbyss_ | [Outcast]: Most of the compatibility problems reported seem to be with SD, not CF |
| 07:32.17 | [Outcast] | i have no luck, I do get an intresting result . after releasing the rest and "c" and "d" keys not light turn on, but when I pull the CF card then both lights blink |
| 07:32.29 | [Outcast] | so I think it might be a problem with the CF card. |
| 07:33.26 | NAbyss_ | Hmm, I've had no experience with the 5500.. do you have another card to test it with? |
| 07:33.52 | [Outcast] | no but I am going to use the Zaurus to reformat it. |
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| 11:39.56 | materialdefender | How do you reboot? Running GPE |
| 11:40.06 | materialdefender | neither shutdown nor reboot is recognized at the terminal |
| 11:40.13 | NAbyss_ | init 6? |
| 11:42.05 | hrw|work | materialdefender: use root shell |
| 11:42.31 | materialdefender | how do I do that? |
| 11:42.38 | materialdefender | sudo isn't recognized |
| 11:42.44 | hrw|work | su |
| 11:42.51 | hrw|work | or run 'root shell' |
| 11:42.51 | NAbyss_ | materialdefender: su, or login as root |
| 11:43.01 | materialdefender | it will let me su without sudoing? |
| 11:43.01 | materialdefender | ah... |
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| 11:43.53 | materialdefender | well fuck, I think I hosed it |
| 11:44.00 | materialdefender | will try that though |
| 11:44.01 | materialdefender | thanks |
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| 12:28.38 | materialdefender | is sound supposed to be working out of box for the Akita under 3.5.4.1? |
| 12:29.36 | materialdefender | it still won't shutdown without opening the battery pack and hitting the switch, btw. Hangs on "reboot" or "shutdown" |
| 12:30.07 | materialdefender | but I guess that's not really a huge concern |
| 12:30.50 | materialdefender | but sound is definitely non-functional... |
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| 12:51.31 | hrw|work | yes |
| 12:51.56 | hrw|work | yes - it should works |
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| 13:00.08 | materialdefender | any particular GPE apps I could use to test it? Voice memo doesn't seem to work, nor do the games have any sound |
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| 13:02.54 | farcaller | hi all. can someone point me to OZ kernel/rootfs images for C1000? Can't find them on any mirror :-/ |
| 13:05.57 | hrw|work | farcaller: c1000 is akita |
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| 13:07.55 | farcaller | hrw|work: yup, but I haven't found any images for akita... |
| 13:08.21 | hrw|work | 3.5.4.1 HAS akita images |
| 13:08.32 | farcaller | oops, just found it in 3.5.4.1 |
| 13:08.33 | farcaller | :) |
| 13:08.57 | farcaller | one more question, how can I backup the original ROM? |
| 13:09.19 | hrw|work | ac off, battery off |
| 13:09.33 | hrw|work | hold DM keys, connect AC |
| 13:09.41 | hrw|work | you should get into diagmenu |
| 13:09.44 | Mavez-San | yo |
| 13:09.51 | hrw|work | put 256M cf in slot |
| 13:09.57 | hrw|work | select nand backup in menu |
| 13:10.20 | farcaller | uh.. is it possible to backup on SD? |
| 13:11.52 | hrw|work | do not remember |
| 13:13.53 | farcaller | hm.. there's only 'NAND Update' and 'ERASE/NAND Update' |
| 13:14.06 | farcaller | no signs of any 'backup' |
| 13:14.10 | hrw|work | then select another menu |
| 13:14.54 | farcaller | ah, found it :) |
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| 13:15.15 | farcaller | jtag reflashing is more easy process :) |
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| 17:37.22 | zap-zero | is the memory leak in the package manager fixed in 3.5.4? |
| 17:37.27 | zap-zero | or do i still need to install aqpkg? |
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| 17:42.30 | zap-zero | my d-link dcf-660w wifi cf card stops working after a while |
| 17:42.37 | zap-zero | dmesg is full of messages containing "no pri f/w" |
| 17:42.55 | zap-zero | is the card defective, or is that a hardware or software fault on the zaurus side? |
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| 17:47.52 | [404] | is there any way to control the backlight on a Zaurus SL-5500 from the command line? I want to leave it running in the cradle, but I don't need the light to be on |
| 17:53.43 | lardman | yes |
| 17:53.47 | lardman | use something like bl |
| 17:53.58 | lardman | look at the source if you want to do it yourself directly |
| 17:54.42 | lardman | Some (probably old) source on my site here: http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/Zaurus/bl/ |
| 17:57.37 | [404] | thank you! |
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| 18:43.10 | zap-zero | now the wifi card works... musta been a hardware problem |
| 18:52.08 | zap-zero | can i make a jffs2 fs on an sd card? |
| 18:55.23 | webmind | I don't see why not |
| 18:55.41 | zap-zero | is there a package with mkfs.jffs2 or something? |
| 18:56.00 | webmind | don't know about that |
| 18:56.13 | webmind | one can look in the repository I guess |
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| 19:09.09 | hvontres|poodle | zap-zero: no. jffs2 does not work for block devices (ie cards). it only works for mtd access to the flash |
| 19:09.39 | zap-zero | :-( |
| 19:09.59 | zap-zero | why? |
| 19:12.20 | zap-zero | what does mtd provide that a block device doesn't? |
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| 19:16.25 | webmind | good question :) |
| 19:16.51 | hvontres|poodle | zap-zero: I think the main reason is that on a SD or CF card, the internal controller already does the wear leveleing for you. JFFS was designed to work directly with the chips connected to the CPU |
| 19:17.33 | hvontres|poodle | zap-zero: But that is only from my limited understanding. you might try asking on the MTD mailing list. |
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| 19:19.13 | zap-zero | someone told me it's possible with the BLOCK2MTD layer |
| 19:19.24 | zap-zero | CONFIG_MTD_BLOCK2MTD |
| 19:19.35 | zap-zero | is that enabled in the OZ 2.4.x kernel? |
| 19:20.41 | hvontres|poodle | zap-zero: Probably not. What Zaurus are you using? |
| 19:21.07 | zap-zero | collie |
| 19:21.27 | zap-zero | sl-5500g |
| 19:23.01 | hvontres|poodle | zap-zero: If you feel up to it, you could try to install OE and roll your own kernel... but the 2.4 kernels are kinda tricky and you probably won't get much help, since 2.4 has become the evil stepchild kernel |
| 19:23.36 | hvontres|poodle | zap-zero: Or you could try to finaly write that collie SD driver for 2.6 :) |
| 19:24.13 | zap-zero | i already said yesterday i'd do this if i hadn't 29 other items on my plan... (well, iirc it were only 27 yesterday :) |
| 19:25.41 | hvontres|poodle | zap-zero: so why do you want to use jffs2 on sd in the first place ? |
| 19:26.37 | zap-zero | because of the compression |
| 19:26.55 | zap-zero | i can use ext2 meanwhile tho |
| 19:29.57 | hvontres|poodle | zap-zero: Actually, I am running 3.5.4.2 on a 5600 entirely off of an ext2 SD card and it seems a bit snappier now :) |
| 19:30.26 | hvontres|poodle | zap-zero: Plus, those 1 GB cards are getting pretty cheap these days :) |
| 19:31.23 | zap-zero | yeah, i recently bought a 2gb minisd for my mobile phone for 35 eur or such |
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| 20:37.18 | zap-zero | well, the package manager segfaults quite often |
| 20:37.22 | zap-zero | is there still aqpkg? |
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| 20:59.56 | zap-zero | could it be that not all feed mirrors have the 'opie' feed? |
| 21:00.47 | zap-zero | i get a 404 when ipkg tries to download http://feeds.openzaurus.org/3.5.4/feed/opie/Packages.gz, but when i try to wget it manually here on my desktop pc, it works... |
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