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00:24.31JuicyJCould someone recommend a free ARM (SA1100) disassembler?
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01:27.17JuicyJQuestion #2, Does anyone know the 'model code' and 'rom parameter' for the sl5500 inside the diagnostics menu (D+P+RESET) ?
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01:35.17Cyorxamphey i'm using opie oz - how do I tell it to turn the screen off and on?
01:36.06Cyorxampi know u can hold down the 3rd button to decrease/increase brightness - but is there a way of having it off and on like the original zaurus media player could do?
01:42.04CyorxampAAaaAAaAAAAnnnnnyone?
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01:45.06nil_Cyorxamp: hmmm... with a clamshell model?
01:45.17nil_Cyorxamp: what about just closing it?
01:45.25Cyorxampthis is the SL-5500
01:45.54Cyorxampthe original sharp media player had a 'Display Off' button... xmms doesnt have that
01:46.12Cyorxampi noticed something called an 'LCD Switch' in the subapplets thing but i dunno how to get to it
01:46.50nilI'm afraid i can't help you much, I use GPE
01:47.28nil(actually, I use the linux console, GPE seems too buggy or I broke it :) )
01:50.06JustinPGPE works fine for me
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02:15.29CyorxampDoesnt ANYONE know how to turn the screen (not suspend) off on a Sl-5500 under Opie?!
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10:27.56pebHi polynomyous
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11:49.56LaibschIs there a way to find out which packages were installed from what feed with ipkg or some other tool?
12:01.54hrw|workno
12:17.46pebDoes anyone of you have experience w/ WLAN and paied access? I'm having the problem that the logon screen from the t-mobile wlans here at the railway stations can't be opened, and so I can't logon and use the wlan. it works fine w/ the laptop, but not w/ the Z. Any idea / hint on how to work with paied WLANs and the Z?
12:19.01Laibschhrw|work: bummer
12:21.36pebhrw|work: is there perhaps the possibility to log what ipkg does (and from where what packages)? so at least you could get a trail ..
12:22.14hrw|workhttp://www.hrw.one.pl/articles/
12:22.34hrw|workpeb: ipkg -V3 install
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13:29.40LaibschHow do I force a package to be reinstalled regardless of the version that is installed?  "ipkg install -force-downgrade $package" or "ipkg upgrade -force-downgrade $package" do not seem to do anything.
13:29.41LaibschOK, there is a force-reinstall option as well
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14:11.56NAbysspeb: If you're using konq-embedded, I'm not sure if SSL support is compiled in.. that may stop access to the login page
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15:04.54LaibschWhere is the equivalent of http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/feed/machine/collie/ on official feeds.openzaurus.org?
15:05.03hrw|worksame
15:05.14hrw|workfeeds.openzaurus.org == http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/
15:08.30LaibschOK, that is what I thought.
15:08.49LaibschBut compare http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/feed/machine/collie/
15:09.06Laibschand http://feeds.openzaurus.org/3.5.4/feed/machine/collie/
15:09.48hrw|workhttp://feeds.openzaurus.org/3.5.4/feed/machine/collie/ is not an address
15:10.00hrw|workit is random redirector
15:10.41LaibschI know.  and it seems I got an incomplete mirror previously.
15:10.56hrw|workthen report those
15:11.15LaibschOK
15:11.23LaibschIf I can trace it back.
15:15.08LaibschWhere?  CoreDump|home? Or BTS?
15:15.40Laibschhttp://feeds.openzaurus.org/3.5.4/feed/upgrades/machine/collie is an example
15:16.03hrw|workhttp://feeds.openzaurus.org/3.5.4/feed/upgrades/machine/collie  is random redirector
15:16.14hrw|workoz-devel I think
15:17.47LaibschOops, sorry wrong one.  jaduncan.net had a 404 for that one.
15:18.23LaibschIs there some kind of list of feeds available (other than looking through the directories?)
15:18.57LaibschI am trying to figure out what I need to have the latest stuff for my collie.
15:19.39hrw|workcollie is still 3.5.4
15:21.03LaibschWell, there are some official 3.5.4.1 and some 3.5.4.2 feeds I could point you to.
15:21.08LaibschWhich is why I ask.
15:21.41hrw|workok. long version will you get
15:21.50hrw|work1. collie is 3.5.4
15:22.27hrw|work2. it can be upgraded to 3.5.4.1 via changing feeds for base/x11/opie etc and 'ipkg update; ipkg upgrade' but it is not tested at all
15:22.45hrw|work3. there is 3.5.4.2-rc2 collie/2.6 bootstrap build but it is fscked
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17:00.39siriusnovahey CoreDump you here?
17:01.21pebHi siriusnova, haven't seen him today
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17:01.52siriusnovahmm k
17:02.04siriusnovai was going to ask him if he has any bootstrap images for Hentges Rom 3.5.4.1
17:02.35siriusnovai will just use 3.5.4 in the mean time
17:04.48pebwait a moment ...
17:06.35siriusnovanvm found it
17:06.39pebhttp://hentges.net/tmp/snapshots/Hengtes-ROM/1.0.0/20061108
17:06.50siriusnovayeah
17:09.10peband you can do a dist-upgrade right after install (mine screwed up after i changed a couple of things, so dist-upgrade didn't work anymore).
17:10.54siriusnovahmm
17:17.24pebis one of you using the Z with paied wlan access (e.g. in railway stations or starbucks)?
17:17.51siriusnovanope
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17:52.16pebHi hvrontes, hi polyonymous
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18:14.37hvontres|poodle~seen CoreDump|home
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18:45.53siriusnovahullo
18:45.57siriusnovaanyone here know anything about ipkg?
18:46.01siriusnovamainly adding feeds?
18:46.42siriusnovai added a perl feed with the file perl-feed.conf in /etc/ipkg/ with the line src/gz base http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/feed/perl
18:46.48siriusnovaand the same for python
18:46.54siriusnovayet ipkg update doesn't show them
18:47.54siriusnovaoh
18:47.54siriusnovawait
18:47.55siriusnovanvm
18:47.57siriusnovai see the problem
18:47.58siriusnovahehe
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18:58.16pebSiriusnova THANKS for the perl feed. I just discovered this week that the perl stuff needs some work on the Z.
18:58.29pebHow Do i install the (new) feed now?
19:00.40siriusnovaoh
19:00.57siriusnovaadd a file called perl-feed.conf in /etc/ipkg/
19:01.02siriusnovain it there should be this line
19:01.15siriusnovasrc/gz perl http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/feed/perl
19:01.23siriusnovasimilar for python
19:01.35siriusnovasrc/gz python http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/feed/python
19:03.03siriusnovaim using my zaurus as a portable linux machine, no more opie on it, pure console fun :D
19:03.12siriusnovaim building software on the Z now ;)
19:04.27pebsiriusnova, how do you emulate the F1-Fx keys?
19:04.57siriusnovagood question
19:04.59siriusnovai dont know hehe
19:05.10siriusnovai need to find out a way to map those
19:05.11pebso at the moment you just run w/ one console?
19:05.16siriusnovaoh
19:05.20siriusnovano you can switch consoles
19:05.45siriusnovahit the button above the cancel button on the left
19:05.51siriusnovathe one with little pages on it
19:05.57siriusnovait is equivalent of the ctrl key
19:06.06siriusnovaand you can hit the keypad left
19:06.09siriusnovaor right
19:06.12siriusnovaat the same time
19:06.17siriusnovaand it will siwtch consoles
19:06.34pebI've to try that - what machine do you have siriusnova?
19:06.37siriusnovaim going to map the alt key and a few others when i figure out how to
19:06.40siriusnovaSL-5500
19:07.41pebAh, ok, so my keymap could be different.
19:08.38siriusnovayeah
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19:27.13pebOK, see you in a minute .-)
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22:02.05RockClimberanyone want to buy a Z5500? UK based?
22:05.41hrw10 quids
22:05.52RockClimberplus P&P?
22:05.58hrwincluding?
22:06.05RockClimberno thanks
22:06.46RockClimberany good causes for a Z5500?
22:08.27RockClimbermaybe I could reassemble it as a digital photo frame
22:09.10RockClimberhotplug event that mounts CF card, a slideshows pictures
22:09.37JustinPRockClimber: 10 pounds? geez
22:10.01RockClimberI think he was joking
22:10.34hrwnot joking
22:10.35JustinPeck, I mis-read ;-)
22:10.48hrwfor me collie is not worth any money
22:10.57RockClimber£10 is too much to pay someone to take away a 5500 :-)
22:11.08hrwand 10 ANYCURRENCY is my normal price for it
22:12.00RockClimberI think it only really has value for parts or converting to something useful
22:12.04RockClimberas a PDA it sucks
22:12.50hvontres1poodleRockClimber: you could set it up to sit on your network to wake up your other machines using WOL :)
22:13.30RockClimber1. I don't have a network cable for it, 2. I don't have a network, 3 I don't have any machines with WOL
22:13.45RockClimberbut other than that, good idea
22:14.03hvontres1poodleRockClimber: Got any friends that could use that feature?
22:14.25RockClimbernope
22:14.35hvontres1poodleRockClimber: or you could add an extra battery, a wlan card and go for war-walkies :)
22:15.09RockClimberhvontres1poodle, i'm grown up
22:15.26RockClimberin the UK only lonely young men go war driving
22:15.55RockClimbermaybe I could convert it to a little weather station for my kitchen
22:16.13hvontres1poodleRockClimber: hey, now that would be a good Idea :)
22:16.25RockClimberi built a serial cable ages ago
22:16.44RockClimbercould wake from suspend to display data
22:16.52hvontres1poodleRockClimber: hmmm...add an X10 interface...lots of possibilities
22:16.56RockClimberX10?
22:17.36RockClimberactually, can the Z5500 be made to wake up every 10 minutes?
22:18.15hvontres1poodleRockClimber: www.x10.com...but maybe they don't have those in the UK. Basicaly a power line interface to little switch boxes
22:18.40hvontres1poodleRockClimber: I think so. possibly using cron
22:19.15RockClimberI was thinking just a 1 wire based sensor system, and the Z as a datalogger. Could write data to CF and once a month I could put it on my PC and see what's been happening. In summer it coudl monitor my plants
22:19.37RockClimberhvontres1poodle, must be possible I suppose as alarms wake it up
22:22.15hvontres1poodleRockClimber: you could just plug it into the wall...and blank the screen
22:22.44RockClimberwas thinking of just adding more battery - ie building it into a bigger shell and charging it once a month
22:22.58hvontres1poodleRockClimber: Solar cell :)
22:23.03RockClimberUK !
22:23.23RockClimber0.001V @ 0.001 A :-(
22:23.39RockClimberactually, it's not that bad - an idea
22:23.49hvontres1poodleRockClimber: ooops.. I've spent too much time here in SoCal...:) (used to live up in Schleswig-Holstein tho...:) )
22:24.08hvontres1poodleRockClimber: Rain powered water wheel ?
22:24.14RockClimberNetherlands?
22:24.26hvontres1poodleRockClimber: Germany.. but same idea :)
22:24.49RockClimbermy mistake - I though Holstein was in Holland
22:25.42hvontres1poodleRockClimber: nahh, thats that peninsula that sticks up north of Hamburg :)
22:25.42RockClimberI see now, N germany
22:27.24RockClimberright, I'm off. thanks for the inspiration
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22:37.36pebHi guys ..
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22:46.49heath_is there a good aim client for oz 3.5.4 on poodle?
22:46.54heath_gpe-gaim just didn't work
22:48.49pebheath_, did you also have some issues w/ screen-sizing of the account setup?
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22:50.45heath_well, I couldn't get the icons to work, or the app to work at all
22:51.17heath_I pulled it from the default repositories is there another repository for qpe-gaim?
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