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00:00.08Laibschpeb: Having trouble with the build environment?  I think it has gotten very easy.  Where are you having trouble?  Maybe we should continue in #oe?
00:02.47mipsdrok
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00:02.56mipsdris there an ftp mirror for 3.5.4.1?
00:03.05mipsdri really MUST absolutely mirror it
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00:17.15Laibschmipsdr: you mean the feed?  FTP? I don't think so, but http you get all of them at http://feeds.openzaurus.org as written in the topic
00:18.43mipsdrthats a pain in the butt
00:18.55mipsdrhave to save as on every link, like 1000 of em
00:19.07mipsdrthats on each part of the feed (opie, x11, base, machine)
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01:28.30mipsdrhey all
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04:28.01kantlivelonghey all
04:51.20summatusmentishey there kantlivelong
06:15.06mipsdrhi
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09:02.52Laibsc1~seen mipsdr
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13:10.58mipsdrhey guys
13:18.44mipsdrBtw, if the maintainer for ewi546 oz mirror is here, you might want to stay away from your access log, I have to mirror a bunch of stuff for internal use here :P, and thanks for hosting it!
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15:28.25jd-funhi!
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16:25.24Laibschmipsdr: What do you mean, pain in the butt?  wget can do both ftp and http equally well.  And wget is scriptable.  I utterly do not understand what whould be easier about ftp.
16:25.49Laibschmipsdr: ewi mirror is from koen.
16:26.35Laibschmipsdr: And you could use feeds.openzaurus.org as suggested.  ewi is in there as well.
16:26.36mipsdrk
16:27.11mipsdri know, i need all of it mirrored, and i used wget half way in to fill in the gaps
16:27.25mipsdrit's not a problem now
16:29.19mipsdrjust a lot easier to mirror ftp then http, you have to use noclobber (nc), recursive, limit directory recursion to about 3 deep, two ways of doing it, one is gutting the urls out of the apache index and use wget -i file -nc (Because I had partial, but complete files already)
16:29.52mipsdrsecond is advanced wget options, the mirror option didnt seem to want to cooperate with an apache index
16:29.59Kevin`rsync ftw
16:30.09mipsdrthere is no rsync
16:30.12mipsdrno ftp
16:30.22mipsdrit's kinda stupid to force us to only have http
16:30.29Kevin`then id forget mirring unless your desperate
16:30.37mipsdri HAVE to
16:30.42mipsdrIt is desparation
16:32.07mipsdryou wouldnt understand, probably living in metropolitan area on unquoted cheap broadband, no im not on dialup, but acceptable user policies are inhuman when you're forced to dialup or sastillite, and in my case I cant just go out and use ipkg all the time, I need it mirrored once, maybe sync it every other month
16:32.15mipsdr*satillite
16:32.36mipsdrbut ive done it, it works, and i have my internal mirror setup
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17:37.14ibotcoredump|home is currently on #gpe #oe #openmoko #openzaurus, last said: '~pester CoreDump|home to fix bug xyz'.
17:49.08hvontres|homeping CoreDump|home
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18:23.05magnethi
18:23.33magnetwhat about upgrading gaim package ? current oz's gaim has msn broken.
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19:06.38kantlivelonghey all
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19:54.02magnethi kantlivelong .
19:54.39kantlivelongheya magnet
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20:46.15kantlivelonghow do i compile a bb file?
20:48.11kantlivelongnvm
20:53.45pgfellerkantlivelong: have a look @ the "getting started" on the open embeded webside ...
20:53.53kantlivelongpgfeller: yeah noticed..
20:54.08kantlivelongpgfeller: what cmd options are used for the patch files?
20:54.12kantlivelongto make them
20:54.24pgfellerkantlivelong: if you have midified a .bb?
20:54.37kantlivelongpgfeller: if i mod source.. how do i make a patch file
20:54.44kantlivelongi know its diff.. but im not getting the same format
20:55.21pgfellerkantlivelong: #diff -Naur oldfile newfile >new-patch
20:55.27kantlivelonghmm odd
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20:55.58kantlivelongi gett a diff patch file then what the bb has
20:56.10kantlivelongformat wise that is
20:56.45pgfellerkantlivelong: what should be different?
20:57.00kantlivelongpgfeller: the format of the patch file.. the header
20:57.14pgfellerkantlivelong: just the filepaths?
20:57.23kantlivelongnah the format itself
20:57.26kantlivelongeh ill play w/ it
20:57.30kantlivelongcould be sumtin else
20:58.20pgfellerkantlivelong: the .bb is a receipt - not a patch ... this is understood I assume - it just refers sometimes to patches to be applied to a source
20:59.08kantlivelongi know
20:59.08kantlivelong:)
20:59.18kantlivelongi prolly figured it out
20:59.19kantlivelongsec
20:59.48kantlivelongit was using cached files
20:59.59kantlivelonggot it now
21:00.04pgfellerkantlivelong: :-)
21:00.07kantlivelong:) i had to add xml support to dillo
21:00.14kantlivelongwell just the mime type
21:00.22kantlivelongannoying not being able to go to ebay
21:00.58kantlivelongwhere does it dump the ipkgs?
21:01.55pgfellerkantlivelong: ../tmp/../deploy/ipk ... depends on your settings in local-conf
21:02.01kantlivelonghmmm not there
21:02.01kantlivelongodd
21:02.13kantlivelongi sworn it was there 2
21:02.15kantlivelongbut its not
21:02.27kantlivelongnvm there it is
21:02.28kantlivelonglol
21:02.40pgfellerkantlivelong: you do not have the deploy dir - or the ipkgs are not there?
21:02.59kantlivelongnah i got it
21:02.59kantlivelong:)
21:03.10kantlivelongjust overlooked it
21:03.30kantlivelongim really debating buying a SL-C3200 but not sure....
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21:37.43kantlivelongis the SL-C3200 worth it?
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22:01.51summatusmentiskantlivelong, I'm going to be purchasing one soon
22:02.05summatusmentisyour 5600 isn't cutting it?
22:03.02kantlivelongnope
22:03.09Kevin`kantlivelong I have an sl-c3200, works great for what I do, but I can't compare it to other zaurus's
22:03.45Kevin`irc, mp3s, ssh, remote desktop at rare times
22:04.03Kevin`and my PIM note file..
22:04.23kantlivelongKevin`: what do u mean.. see im looking @ the 3xxx series and the only diff im seing is 2gb and the rom size
22:04.29kantlivelongwhich i wouldnt use the rom
22:04.36kantlivelongand 6gb  is a bit much
22:04.40kantlivelongwould the 3000 be good?
22:04.56Kevin`a bit much? i've used almost all of it :)
22:05.08kantlivelongKevin`: well i have a 2gb sd and a 6gb cf card
22:05.10kantlivelong:)
22:05.16kantlivelongerm 2gb cf
22:05.32kantlivelongwhere can i get them anyways? im in the US
22:05.32Kevin`I always have a wifi card in it
22:05.43Kevin`usign an external cf card for storage would be annoying
22:05.49kantlivelongwhy
22:05.50Kevin`and with a hdd I can use root on it
22:06.00kantlivelongthe 3000 has a 4gb rite?
22:06.05Kevin`because I couldn't use the cf card and cf wifi at the same time
22:06.21kantlivelongKevin`: ah yeah :) my sd card cuts it tho
22:06.26kantlivelongwhere can i get them?
22:06.31Kevin`japan
22:06.33Kevin`:)
22:06.40Kevin`or do you mean the wifi card
22:08.00kantlivelongthe zaurus i know theres a website
22:08.02kantlivelongtheres gotta be
22:08.30Kevin`kantlivelong if your not in japan, I got it from japandirect I think
22:08.54Kevin`hm
22:08.55Kevin`no
22:08.58Kevin`that doesn't look right
22:09.04Kevin`I guess I forgot where I got it :)
22:09.09Kevin`price it
22:09.38kantlivelongight well ill look into it :) and summatusmentis i just want more res... so yeah its cutting it but i want more zaurus action :)
22:10.58summatusmentiskantlivelong, pricejapan.com conics.net streamlinecpus.com
22:11.08summatusmentisare three places, I'm going to order mine from conics
22:11.39Kevin`how much is it on conics?
22:11.40kantlivelongsummatusmentis: how much they run for?
22:11.51kantlivelongim seeing a c3200 for $400 on ebay
22:11.54summatusmentisthe new 3200 on conics is $514 US
22:12.01kantlivelonghow bout a 3000?
22:12.15summatusmentisI don't think they've got it, 3000 isn't sold new anymore
22:12.20summatusmentisand they don't have a used one
22:12.30summatusmentisthere's a used 3100, but it's about $468
22:12.43Kevin`3000 looks very reasonable assuming you don't care about using flash storage
22:12.49Kevin`which is likely, if your in this channel :)
22:12.56kantlivelonghehehe
22:13.09kantlivelongight well thx guys
22:13.11kantlivelonggotta get goin
22:14.27summatusmentishave fun
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22:18.00summatusmentisKevin`, what in the world do you do w/ the 6GB on your Z?
22:18.23Kevin`I take it with me, it collects files.
22:18.33Kevin`I believe most of it was some disk images
22:18.41summatusmentisoh
22:18.45summatusmentiswhat do you use? GPE?
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23:06.00hvontres|homesummatusmentis: I had ~4.5 GB worth of MP3s on my 5GB seagate... actually they are still on there.. the drive just took a shit tho...:(
23:08.10summatusmentishvontres|home, 5GB seagate minidrive?
23:11.46hvontres|homesummatusmentis: yup... it was one of the early ones (3.03 Fw) so it worked. I heard other peopele had newer ones that wouldn't work on Z's since they were crippled into IDE only mode
23:16.02summatusmentisah, I've got an iPod for music, but I might use the new 3200(when I get it) for video
23:16.18summatusmentisGPE is the most functional for 'mini-computer' usage right?
23:54.40summatusmentishvontres|home, do you help with angstom?
23:54.43summatusmentisanstrom**
23:54.59summatusmentisnvm, I can't spell tonight apparently, angstrom, there
23:56.04hvontres|homesummatusmentis: not yet. I tried to build an image but I haven't tested it. Poodles and GPE don't get along too well :(
23:56.35hvontres|homesummatusmentis: I do try to help out CoreDump with his stuff from time to time
23:57.09summatusmentisoh, what will it offer that OZ doesn't? any why make the switch?
23:59.11hvontres|homesummatusmentis: are you talking about hentges or angstrom? hentges is just OZ with some extra userspace tweaks while angstrom is going to be the new OZ
23:59.42summatusmentisangstrom

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