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06:04.31lindenleHI I am running 3.5.4.1 on a clamshell and i wanted to install python-curses but I get an error about unsatisfied dependency libncuses5 but I have ncurses installed which is the only dependancy in the feed browser. Can someone help?
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16:12.15MilkmanDanIs the wiki down?
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16:39.49LaibschDoes the Zaurus understand "post-up ntpdate pool.ntp.org" in /etc/network/interfaces?  It seems like this is not being called when the usbd0 interface (cradle) is being brought up.  Is there another way to do this?
16:40.16hrw|workshould work
16:40.23hrw|workcu
16:44.32Laibschhrw|gone: Well, the thing is.  Time is not being updated :-/
16:45.14MilkmanDanLaibsch: I'd see if I could get it to work for you...if I could figure out how to actually get my WiFi card recognized. =/
16:49.48Goggywhat's wrong with your WIFI?
16:54.46Goggyhttp://www.jeffdeboer.com/Galleries/CatsMice/tabid/63/moduleid/396/viewkey/photo/photoid/6/Default.aspx sweet
16:55.28Goggywhoops wrong channel :P
17:00.48LaibschMilkmanDan: most important question: What card, what Z?
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17:13.14hvontres|poodleLaibsch: does ntpdate work manually with usbd0 ?
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17:23.21Laibschhvontres|poodle: It works manually from the console.  What do you mean with "work manually with usbd0"?  I have no other net connection currently, if that is what you are trying to get to.  My WLAN card is out.
17:28.48hvontres|poodleLaibsch: I was just wondering if your cradle connecton was working correctly. I am guessing you are still on a 2.4 kernel?
17:32.10Laibschyes, this is a collie.
17:36.22MilkmanDanLaibsch: It's a generic Prism card.  It worked in the past 2 versions of OZ.  I just don't have a clue what I'm missing in this version.
17:45.45Goggyanything show up in your dmesg MilkmanDan ?
17:45.51GoggyDoes cardctl ident show the card?
18:03.32MilkmanDanGoggy: cardctl sees it.  Nothing in dmesg.
18:03.55MilkmanDanI'm probably missing some non-obvious package, but for the life of me I can't tell what.
18:05.19Goggydo an lsmod, is hostap loaded? you said its a prisim card?
18:08.08MilkmanDanI have installed: hostap-daemon hostap-modules hostap-modules-cs hostap-utils linux-hotplug orinoco-modules orinoco-modules-cs pcmcia-cs prism3-firmware prism3-support wireless-tools and wpa-supplicant-ssl
18:08.28MilkmanDanGoggy: Nope, nothing gets loaded when I insert the card.
18:09.22Goggycan you give a pastebin of your cardctl output? We might just need to make an entry for hostap_cs.conf
18:10.29MilkmanDanGoggy: Sure....once I get my wireless card working and can cut/paste from it. :)
18:10.47Goggyc'mon its not that much to type out is it?
18:10.50MilkmanDanActually, I guess I can save it to a file on a CF card.
18:11.09MilkmanDanWell, I wouldn't want to mess up the whitespace, else it wouldn't work, right?
18:11.16LaibschMilkmanDan: Do you have hostap_cs.conf on your Z?
18:11.39LaibschWhich package provides that, BTW?
18:12.09Laibschhostap-conf package
18:12.11MilkmanDanGoggy: Eh, you're right.  Where do you want this?
18:12.28LaibschMilkmanDan: Do you see it from "ipkg list_installed|grep hostap"?
18:12.50LaibschWhat version?
18:12.54Goggypastebin.com and give us a link
18:13.07MilkmanDanLaibsch: No, I seem to be missing hostap-conf
18:14.35LaibschThere you go
18:14.46Laibsch"ipkg install hostap-conf" and you should be happy
18:15.24MilkmanDanGoggy: http://pastebin.com/852029
18:15.29LaibschDid you reinstall from scratch?  I thought you had upgraded.
18:15.32MilkmanDanLaibsch: Ok, one sec.
18:15.36MilkmanDanLaibsch: No, scratch install.
18:15.42Goggyyou dont have networking tho MilkmanDan?
18:16.04GoggyUSB or anything?
18:16.12MilkmanDanGoggy: No USB, no.
18:16.31MilkmanDanI haven't a clue where the cradle is.
18:16.31Goggyyou can grab the hostap-conf package from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/?action=details&pnm=hostap-conf to put on your CF card I suppose then.
18:22.26MilkmanDanOh, interestng.  There was no hostap-conf package when I made my feed mirror...
18:22.35MilkmanDanNo wonder I didn't get it.  Onlt ./updates has it...
18:24.44MilkmanDanhmmm
18:25.03MilkmanDan"Package hostap-conf wants to install file /etc/pcmcia/hostap_cs.conf
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18:30.05GoggyI need to reboot :(
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18:31.09MilkmanDanGoggy: I just rebooted my workstation after 250 days of uptime.  That kindof hurt. :(
18:34.58MilkmanDanSo, my hostap.conf does have my card in it.
18:35.15MilkmanDanBut no hostap modules are being loaded.
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18:54.49MilkmanDanGoggy: So, my hostap.conf does have my card in it.  But no hostap modules are being loaded.
18:55.09Goggydo you just have the one card MilkmanDan?
18:55.46MilkmanDanGoggy: Yes.
18:56.20Goggyme I truncated my hostap_cs.conf to just have the one card and the device & class lines at the top of the file.
18:56.44MilkmanDanAh, interesting.
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20:56.07MilkmanDanGoggy: So, if the card is listed in hostap.conf and hostap modules still aren't getting loaded, what else should I be looking at?
20:56.29hrwshow me cardctl ident please
20:58.12MilkmanDanhrw: http://pastebin.com/852029
20:59.02hrwshit. it should work
21:00.16MilkmanDanhrw: Yeah, it worked just fine in the past 2 versions of OZ I used.
21:00.42MilkmanDanhrw: It doesn't trigger anything in dmesg nor does inserting it cause any modules to get loaded, though.
21:01.04hrwshit. I have to solve it one day ;(
21:01.17MilkmanDanhrw: Well I'll help if I can. :)
21:18.25MilkmanDanhrw: Could it be that the orinoco* packages I have installed are conflicting?
21:35.16hrwcan you move orinoco*conf from /etc/pcmcia/ and reboot?
21:35.51MilkmanDanHmm, well removing all the orinoco packages as suggested by the FAQ lets the card get recognized by dmesg, and now it shows up in the Opie network applet.
21:36.11hrwand it works?
21:36.29MilkmanDanhrw: No, not yet.  It's not able to associate.
21:36.43hrwconfigured wlan0 properly?
21:37.24MilkmanDanhrw: Gave it the SSID and an optional channel, if that's what you mean...
21:37.48MilkmanDanHowever, iwconfig has two entries, wifi0 and wlan0.  That seems wrong.
21:38.21hrwit is normal
21:38.25hrwthats how hostap works.
21:38.30hrwand it is in FAQ :D
21:38.43MilkmanDanOh, really?
21:38.54hrwignore wifi0, use wlan0
21:41.07MilkmanDanok
21:42.09MilkmanDanI still get "Starting interface failed" w/ the applet.
21:42.49hrwwifi applet? I never used it
21:43.14hrwcan you start terminal/console and do 'ifup wlan0'?
21:45.43MilkmanDanhrw|gone: Interesting.  Apparently it was failing ifups because some process was already running.  (It said it found an existing pid.)
21:46.33Laibschthe gui is broken.  starting, stopping and restarting interfaces always gives that error.  But in the end, the commands are executed properly.
21:46.33MilkmanDanNow it says "script /usr/share/udhcpc/default.script failed: No such file or directory.
21:46.34summatusmentis~spitz
21:46.36ibotrumour has it, spitz is the Sharp SL-C3000, or a dog
21:46.55LaibschMilkmanDan: Another missing pacakge.
21:46.59MilkmanDanLaibsch: I'm going to init 6 and try again.
21:47.01LaibschWhich one do you think it is?
21:47.13LaibschMilkmanDan: that won't help
21:48.24MilkmanDanLaibsch: Oh?  Erm, something involving dhcp, I presume?
21:48.43MilkmanDanIt crashed hard while rebooting.  I just had to reset.
21:50.23MilkmanDanWhoa, there's no dhcp package installed.  How'd that happen? :)
21:52.26summatusmentisdoes anyone know of a way to theme gpe?
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22:10.26MilkmanDanWell, it looks like the card works, as long as I force a static address.
22:10.44MilkmanDandhcp still isn't happy but I can get around that for a moment.
22:10.56hrw|goneMilkmanDan: it should also works with dhcp - dhcp client is part of busybox
22:11.04hrw|gonebye
22:13.52MilkmanDanhrw|gone: Right, I had to force overwrite to install udhcpc.
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22:26.38summatusmentisnoone theme's gpe?
22:39.24MilkmanDanGoggy/hrw: So far so good -- I'm able to run a mass upgrade via the package manager.  Thanks so much for your help...
22:41.21Goggywoohoo thats good news MilkmanDan
22:41.33GoggyWhat did you end up doing sorry? I've been having problems with my desktop today.
22:54.54MilkmanDanGoggy: Removed the orinoco-* packages, rebooted, used the Network gui to activate the card eschewing DHCP for static addressing, and added in a resolv.conf :)
22:56.10MilkmanDanGoggy: Now that I have most of a clue what's going on I need to decide if it's worth it to reinstall completely to take advantage of the 1GB SD card I have for it.
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23:15.29GoggyHmm
23:15.29GoggyWhat device do ya run?
23:24.13summatusmentisis it possible to theme GPE?
23:26.01MilkmanDanGoggy: Collie
23:26.11MilkmanDanIt's a Lexan card.
23:30.32GoggyI use the hentges build of OZ on my 5500, it uses cardfs to put pretty much everything but the base of opie on SD

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