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00:10.37MilkmanDanGoggy: I'm using the 64M/0M boot image and root on SD.
00:10.58MilkmanDanI don't know if that's "hentges" or what.
00:12.12MilkmanDanAnybody have a use for a K6-2/400MHz machine?
00:12.20Goggyhttp://hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/oz3.5.4.1-opie1.2.1.shtml is what I'm using MilkmanDan
00:15.08MilkmanDanGoggy: Oh, interesting.  So it's just a pre-built image w/ Opie and a pile of apps, saving the effort of installing by hand?
00:18.19Goggyyup
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00:23.46MilkmanDanGoggy: It says you can move /opt /usr and /bin to the SD card but that it doesn't free up space on root.  That doesn't sound like what I'm doing, which is pivoting.
00:24.40GoggyI have about 2MB of space free on root when using this image, it'll boot just fine without the card installed
00:28.53MilkmanDanAhso
00:29.06MilkmanDanI don't really forsee a need to boot without the SD card.
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01:21.50summatusmentisis there a way to get an e17 loop image?
01:21.54summatusmentisfor collie?
02:29.00summatusmentisanyone around?
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02:52.51nilhi!
02:53.51nilis there somewhere a (kind of) documentation about the Zaurus boot process?
02:54.23nilfirmware, RAM, disk/SD, etc...
02:54.38nil(I have a 3200)
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03:52.45ThaigerSo anyone know of a better browser for opie?
04:06.41summatusmentisThaiger: I think the only browser available is konqueror
04:06.50summatusmentismaybe opera... I don't know about that though
04:06.57summatusmentisnil: what are you trying to do?
04:07.14summatusmentisyou could look at the openzaurus site
04:14.14ThaigerI can't download opera from the site, any idea where I'd get it
04:14.46summatusmentisThaiger: I don't know for certain that opera works, I know there was an ipkg floating around for opera on normal sharp rom
04:14.55summatusmentisI'm pretty sure it's not in the feeds
04:16.38ThaigerHm... I'll search thanks
04:17.45ThaigerI would like something that understood mime types
04:18.11summatusmentissure thing, other than that... you could run firefox inside of Xqt(or something like that)
04:18.30summatusmentisthere's some way to run X apps inside of qt, so you could run firefox from there, but it'd be slower
04:24.28summatusmentisis there a e17 loop image available?
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04:39.31ThaigerI had no idea about xqt thanks!
04:39.35Thaigerthats exactly what I've been looking for
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04:45.53ThaigerI'm confused does X/QT super jumbo still work with the opie feed?
04:46.45summatusmentisThaiger: X/QT super jumbo? wanna give me a link? I may have pointed you to the wrong project...
04:51.45Thaigerhttp://pdaxqtrom.thegrinder.ws/files/pdaxqtrom.html
04:51.56ThaigerI know its not just Xqt
04:52.10Thaigerthats in the feeds
04:56.34summatusmentisthat's a completely different rom, you know that right?
04:57.08summatusmentisor wait, no, just an addon to sharp?
04:57.38ThaigerWell, my understanding is there is a pdaXrom, different rom, or there is the tar.gz which is an addon
04:57.45Thaigerthe tar.gz is similar, but slower
04:57.55summatusmentispdaXrom is a different rom altogether
04:58.06summatusmentisthe tar.gz is likey a package for pdaXrom
04:58.13summatusmentisand yes, I think it's supposed to be slower
04:58.22summatusmentisI think there's something similar for OZ though
04:59.05Thaigerxqt and xqt2 are in the feeds, and I just gotta grab my SD card and I'll try xqt2
04:59.39summatusmentisoh, ok
05:00.20ThaigerThanks again for telling me about xqt, it seems like it'll solve most of my issues
05:00.44summatusmentissure thing, if it ends up working well enough, let me know
05:00.52summatusmentismight be a reason to use opie instead of gpe
05:03.09ThaigerHow do you like gpe?  I tried it for a little bit, but I could never get the things I wanted like iwconfig and stuff like that
05:06.43summatusmentisI don't mind it, I'm on a 5500, so it's probably not as useful as I'd like
05:06.58summatusmentisI'd like a mini computer, and considering GPE has X, that's what i decided to use
05:09.21ThaigerThats cool, I was after the same thing, but command line tools seemed lacking, did you find that to be the case?
05:10.05ThaigerI'd try pdaXrom, because that seems to the goal and these screenshots are tempting, but the site seems to be down, that and I can't seem to flash from SD
05:13.13kollaI just want usbdnet to with 2.6 kernel on collie, and I'll be happy :)
05:13.55kollato work...
05:21.00ThaigerCan anyone tell me why packages I install on SD don't end up in my path, I thought they linked, but it doesn't seem to
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06:49.08hvontres|home~seen CoreDump|home
06:49.34ibotcoredump|home <n=mhentges@hentges.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 32d 1h 37m 26s ago, saying: '~pester CoreDump|home to fix bug xyz'.
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14:44.55MilkmanDanWeird, my Collie was doing a mass package install last night and I left the Package Manager running.  The device is dark and hung this morning.
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15:41.18MilkmanDanBizarre..
15:41.34MilkmanDanNow iwconfig segfaults when I run it by hand.
15:42.06MilkmanDanOh neat, dmesg has some kernel oopses.
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15:50.11MilkmanDanYep, inserting the wifi card causes an immediate oops.
15:50.29mimecarhi
15:50.36MilkmanDanAnyone want to buy a slightly used Collie? :(
15:50.52mimecarI have one collie
15:51.04mimecarwhat's the problem MilkmanDan?
16:02.31MilkmanDanmimecar: My OS image is basically screwed.  I think I'm going to just wipe and reinstall.
16:02.50MilkmanDanI might try this Hentges image.
16:03.15mimecarwhat did you do before the system crash ?
16:04.13MilkmanDanmimecar: Was wrestling with getting my Prism card working.  Then: 09:44:54 < MilkmanDan> Weird, my Collie was doing a mass package install last night and I left the Package Manager running.  The device is dark and hung this morning.
16:04.27MilkmanDanmimecar: Now I'm getting kernel oopses.
16:04.35mimecarhave you the system on the sd ?
16:04.36MilkmanDanSo I imagine there's been some fs corruption.
16:04.44MilkmanDanmimecar: Yes, exactly.
16:05.06mimecarthen, you have free space ?
16:05.13MilkmanDanmimecar: Yes, plenty.
16:05.39mimecarit's posible one o the updates crash the system
16:05.39mimecardid you rebooted ?
16:06.11MilkmanDanmimecar: Yes, I had to reset a few times so far.
16:06.48mimecaryou can write a log when the system is updated
16:07.09mimecarand check the programs where updated
16:08.45MilkmanDanmimecar: I did that for the first update I did.  For the install later (keyring, wpa-supplicant, some other packages) the Package Manager hung before I could save the log.  I had to reset.
16:09.19mimecarok
16:09.32mimecarthen, backup all the important data and reboot
16:09.57MilkmanDanmimecar: There is no important data.  The system got all corrupted before I could enter any. :)
16:10.05MilkmanDanAnd rebooting 3 times hasn't helped.
16:10.22mimecarbut you have the system on sd, isn't it ?
16:10.28MilkmanDanI think I want a new install on a bigger SD card.
16:10.31MilkmanDanYes.
16:10.50mimecaryou can mount the loop file and save your data
16:10.59mimecaron a pc with linux
16:11.08MilkmanDanmimecar: I don't have any data on it.
16:11.23mimecarok
16:11.49MilkmanDanRight now I just want to figure out if the Hentges image can be moved completely to SD.
16:12.13mimecarno idea
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17:06.16summatusmentisit came!!!! the instructions for flashing a 3200 on the wiki are correct right?
17:07.42hrwthey are same as for c3000/c3100/c3200
17:14.50summatusmentisok... I'm worried about messing something up, but I really don't like this sharp rom :-/
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