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| 01:13.29 | summatusmentis | so I just got a 3200 today, and I screwed up flashing it, I was just reading down the wiki, but I flashed before doing the HD partitioning, or anything else |
| 01:13.33 | summatusmentis | is there a way to fix this? |
| 01:13.51 | hrw | sure |
| 01:13.53 | hrw | flash again |
| 01:14.39 | summatusmentis | I need to partition and everything first, but part of OZ is already on it. Go back to sharp rom(from the CDs)? is that what you mean? |
| 01:14.48 | hrw | ah.. |
| 01:15.02 | hrw | I forgot that 3100/3200 need repartition |
| 01:15.13 | hrw | AC out, battery out |
| 01:15.18 | summatusmentis | I'm getting a 'Kernel panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel." error |
| 01:15.29 | hrw | hold D B keys, connect AC |
| 01:15.39 | hrw | it will boot into rescue mode |
| 01:15.50 | hrw | login as root and use fdisk |
| 01:18.10 | summatusmentis | to do the partitioning, from the wiki |
| 01:29.07 | summatusmentis | hrw: thanks alot. I was worried I'd bricked it :-/ |
| 01:29.32 | hrw | only collie can be bricked |
| 01:29.43 | summatusmentis | really? that's good to know |
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| 02:01.29 | alvise_ | hi |
| 02:03.54 | alvise_ | in the openzaurus the openzaurus wiki's link get a "forbidden" page. Is there a HowTo install openzaurus (on c3200) page ? Thanks |
| 02:09.30 | summatusmentis | http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install |
| 02:10.26 | summatusmentis | I just used it, but I loaded it up earlier today... |
| 02:10.27 | alvise_ | summatusmentis: get a forbidden ! :( |
| 02:11.51 | alvise_ | You don't have permission to access / on this server. Now have you the same problem too ? |
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| 02:19.49 | summatusmentis | wow... that's annoying, yeah, I'm having the same issue |
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| 05:31.40 | summatusmentis | the 3200 keyboard takes some getting used to, coming from the 5500 |
| 05:32.17 | JustinP | yes |
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| 05:37.40 | summatusmentis | is there a way to be asked which wm I want to start at boot? |
| 05:37.48 | summatusmentis | or login |
| 05:42.11 | JustinP | no |
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| 05:56.45 | summatusmentis | hrm... |
| 05:57.01 | summatusmentis | which key is mapped to alt? |
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| 12:54.09 | peb_ | hi guys .. hope you had a smooth tranisiton into 2007 |
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| 18:31.28 | krang | I just got a CL-3200 and am mildly confused by the OZ installation instructions. They say that we "ignore the flash entirely and boot from the hard drive", and then proceed to instruct you on how to flash your zaurus. Which is it? |
| 18:31.42 | hrw | kernel is in flash |
| 18:32.04 | krang | hrw: ah, so we ignore it mostly rather than entirely then I guess :-) |
| 18:32.06 | hrw | sharprom use flash also for rootfs but we keep rootfs on microdrive |
| 18:32.34 | krang | hrw: So just to clarify, I partition my microdrive, and then perform the flashing process, and that's it, yes? |
| 18:32.50 | hrw | yes |
| 18:33.01 | krang | hrw: well thank goodness for that! |
| 18:33.23 | krang | hrw: how would I restore to factory state if anything screws up, is that possible? |
| 18:33.41 | hrw | it is possible |
| 18:33.49 | hrw | nand backup/restore is a key |
| 18:34.20 | krang | ah, so if I backup my NAND, I can just bung the resultant files on a card and reload them? |
| 18:35.20 | hrw | yes |
| 18:35.47 | krang | Beauty. Thanks dude, that puts my mind at ease. Off I go then! |
| 18:37.07 | krang | Oh, one more question, the: the "Backup/Restore" app will do a full NAND backup, yes? It doesn't miss anything? |
| 18:37.13 | hrw | no |
| 18:37.20 | krang | sweet, thanks |
| 18:37.33 | hrw | nand backup/restore is part of internal diagnostics not part of system |
| 18:37.59 | krang | hrw: oh, how do I backup NAND then? I didn't see a link to a howto |
| 18:39.07 | hrw | its like that: if you really need it then you find it. |
| 18:39.15 | hrw | dig in OZ wiki and in OESF wiki |
| 18:40.07 | krang | cheersely doos, I'll do that. |
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| 19:48.21 | lindenle | Hi I cannot install python-curses in openzaurus 5.4.1. It complains that libcurses is a non-resolvable dependancy, but I have ncurses installed. Can anyone help? |
| 19:49.06 | mimecar | what's the version of ncrusrse you need ? |
| 19:57.30 | lindenle | mimecar: so when i try to ipkg install python-curse I get: http://pastebin.com/853703...looks like ncurses5 and I have ncurses - 5.4-r8 installed |
| 19:59.47 | mimecar | one moment |
| 20:03.04 | krang | Hey all, I'm just trying to do a NAND backup before installing OZ, but the menu is all in Japanese. Anyone know of a translation of the menu system or a walkthrough somewhere? |
| 20:03.23 | mimecar | have you check the openzaurus wiki ? |
| 20:03.42 | krang | Yeah, it's a bit sparse |
| 20:04.04 | mimecar | it should be something related on wiki |
| 20:04.14 | mimecar | but ALL the menus are in japan |
| 20:05.00 | mimecar | lindenle: have you the same version of the library ? |
| 20:05.24 | krang | The wiki says "page 3, 1: NAND Flash Back Up" as the next step. It could mean select option 3 followed by option 1, but I really don't want to break anything, so I'd like to be sure |
| 20:05.50 | mimecar | ok |
| 20:06.56 | krang | is there nobody in here that knows what the menu options mean? |
| 20:07.14 | mimecar | krang: I haven't your model |
| 20:07.55 | krang | mimecar: ah yes, diversity. it can be a real pain in the butt when coupled with obscurity :-) |
| 20:08.08 | lindenle | mimecar: There is no library package but I have: /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 -> /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5.4 |
| 20:08.27 | mimecar | you can force the installation |
| 20:08.32 | mimecar | it can work with luck |
| 20:10.16 | lindenle | ok I try |
| 20:15.36 | lindenle | what |
| 20:15.48 | lindenle | sorry wrong window |
| 20:16.06 | summatusmentis | hrm... no e17 images |
| 20:22.49 | krang | I don't suppose anyone here reads japanese do they? I've got a menu image that I would love to get translated so I can backup my NAND |
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| 20:25.17 | fedeloco | hi all, new to zaurus (sl6000L), still under sharp rom. is there anything like apt repositories for ipk ? (dependency handling) |
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| 20:30.25 | Thaiger | OK, in opie I set the little card manager thing to eject the card coming back from suspend and whatever the other option is. So now no matter what I do it ejects the card and I can't configure it again unless the card is inserted. Is there a config file I can change or do I need to reflash yet again |
| 20:31.29 | summatusmentis | krang: back up your NAND. that's not the process described here ->http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install is it? |
| 20:31.56 | summatusmentis | fedeloco: not on the sharp rom I don't think |
| 20:32.00 | summatusmentis | OZ does that |
| 20:32.14 | krang | no |
| 20:32.27 | krang | summatusmentis: that's eveything *but* the nand |
| 20:32.51 | fedeloco | ok I guess I'll have to flash to OZ. Cheers |
| 20:33.16 | summatusmentis | krang: oh... ok, I'm not sure how to do that then |
| 20:33.24 | hrw | fedeloco: sharprom is not maintained at all so no feeds |
| 20:33.28 | summatusmentis | fedeloco: most ROMS will do that, just not sharp |
| 20:33.42 | hrw | fedeloco: and tosa (sl6000) is not popular due to its cost |
| 20:34.10 | krang | summatusmentis: thanks anyway dude :-) |
| 20:34.36 | summatusmentis | krang: sure thing, I'm sure there are instructions somewhere |
| 20:34.36 | fedeloco | all right, got a second hand one, too bad sharp is not doing a good job following up |
| 20:35.01 | krang | summatusmentis: that's what *I* said before I started searching an hour ago |
| 20:35.32 | fedeloco | would you recommend opie or gpe ? |
| 20:35.36 | summatusmentis | krang: http://www.oesf.org/index.php?title=NAND_Flash_Backup |
| 20:35.45 | summatusmentis | fedeloco: I like gpe, as it's X based |
| 20:37.00 | fedeloco | do you think wifi will work out of the box ? I mostly use it for internet |
| 20:37.04 | krang | summatusmentis: been there. Both unclear, and for the wrong model (I've got an Sl-C3200) |
| 20:37.15 | krang | summatusmentis: cheers though :-) |
| 20:37.55 | summatusmentis | krang: might be the same process, have you tried it? |
| 20:38.39 | krang | summatusmentis: No, because mine isn't even in the same language and *one* of those options is "erase". Waaaay to risky :-) |
| 20:40.38 | summatusmentis | krang: ah |
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| 20:40.58 | summatusmentis | is there any particular reason you want to backup your own? trisoft has a NAND backup available for download |
| 20:41.10 | krang | summatusmentis: I did just find a pdf that is promising though, I have a translation of the first page! |
| 20:41.27 | HYB | Hey, is a card reader needed to install OpenZaurus? |
| 20:41.37 | krang | summatusmentis: Well, just wanted to be sure. Besides, now that I have their manual, I might be fine anyway! |
| 20:42.03 | Thaiger | Can anyone recommened a program for windows that will let me format something ext2? |
| 20:42.06 | summatusmentis | HYB, you need to have a way to put stuff on a CF or SD card, in order to install OZ |
| 20:42.30 | summatusmentis | Thaiger: knoppix :-) nothing for windows that I know of... |
| 20:42.30 | HYB | Alright |
| 20:42.50 | summatusmentis | HYB: it doesn't need to be a card reader, could be a camera, or something else I suppose |
| 20:42.55 | Thaiger | summatusmentis: Hm... I wonder if knoppix would see my card reader.. |
| 20:43.09 | HYB | summatusmentis, i couldn't download the image onto my the card from my zaurus? |
| 20:43.22 | summatusmentis | Thaiger: internal? |
| 20:43.35 | summatusmentis | HYB: yeah, you could, assuming you've got internet(which you probably do) |
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| 20:44.24 | HYB | I do |
| 20:44.38 | summatusmentis | then yeah, that should work fine |
| 20:45.59 | fedeloco | bye all, thanks |
| 20:51.51 | summatusmentis | grr... has anyone setup and used e17 for a while? |
| 20:54.34 | lindenle | Why do I have tio run ipkg-link by hand when i install packages in 3.5.4.1? |
| 20:57.39 | summatusmentis | lindenle: I think you've always had to run ipkg-link by hand |
| 20:57.49 | summatusmentis | unless installing to / |
| 20:58.15 | lindenle | summatusmentis: oh ok then it makes sense |
| 21:00.53 | lindenle | Antone know what python package in openzaurus contains imaplib? |
| 21:01.39 | Thaiger | summatusmentis: Yeah, internal |
| 21:02.39 | lindenle | Thaiger: was that for me? |
| 21:03.06 | Thaiger | no... |
| 21:03.26 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.39 | summatusmentis | Thaiger: mmm... it may not, depending on drivers |
| 21:06.55 | Thaiger | Anyone have any idea why I wouldn't be able to flash via SD, it says SD card not found, no matter what I do for the format |
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| 21:17.50 | lindenle | Ok sorry to ask again but does anyone know what python package imaplib.py is in? |
| 21:26.07 | Thaiger | lindenle: As far as I can tell no package has it, but since its interpreted and all that you may be able to grab it and drop it in the right place |
| 21:28.26 | lindenle | Thaiger: I tried that but it does not seem to see it |
| 21:28.49 | lindenle | Thaiger: Do i have to tell python about it somehow |
| 21:30.54 | lindenle | Thaiger: BTW this is all so I can us ccal on the zaurus...looks awesome |
| 21:31.40 | Thaiger | lindenle: Unfortuenatley I don't do python, but I imagine you have to put it in the library path, or add to the library path |
| 21:34.43 | lindenle | Thaiger: ok got it |
| 21:35.00 | lindenle | Thaiger: sys.path.append('/usr/lib/python2.4') |
| 21:37.34 | lindenle | //join #python |
| 22:00.07 | lindenle | Ok now I need md5 which I think is an internal and it is not in python core..what should i do |
| 22:01.57 | lindenle | And at #python they tell me this one is a built in :( |
| 22:04.13 | lindenle | It would be really nice if the feed broser had more information about packages like in debian :) |
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| 22:05.01 | hrw | lindenle: code is available, patches are welcome |
| 22:06.54 | lindenle | hrw: Sorry that was not a slight against OZ, I love it...your right I could check out the code and just look in the bb files right? |
| 22:07.22 | hrw | lindenle: I meant feed browser |
| 22:08.00 | lindenle | hrw: You mean I should add the features I want to the feed browser code ;) |
| 22:08.05 | lindenle | hrw: good idea |
| 22:09.23 | HYB | summatusmentis, hey, sorry to bother you again, but am I going to un-tar the image before putting it on the SD card? (excuse my ignorance :( ) |
| 22:10.34 | hrw | HYB: you install on c3x00? copy tarball |
| 22:11.10 | HYB | is that a question |
| 22:11.13 | HYB | or a statement |
| 22:11.35 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.43 | hrw | copy tarball, not unpack to card |
| 22:12.20 | HYB | Yes, I'm installing on a C3x00 |
| 22:12.42 | HYB | and just copy the tarball to the SD card? |
| 22:12.48 | hrw | yes |
| 22:13.05 | HYB | alright thanks |
| 22:25.39 | HYB | hrw, are you sure i copy the tarball and don't unpack it? |
| 22:29.36 | hrw | YES |
| 22:30.02 | HYB | :o |
| 22:30.04 | HYB | Okay |
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| 23:01.23 | Webo | hi all |
| 23:01.25 | HYB | hrw, hey uhm, with my c3x00 i got to where i restart into terminal to reformat my hdd but when i go to login, the keyboard doesn't work... |
| 23:01.44 | hrw | ? |
| 23:02.07 | HYB | like i'm prompted with "zaurus login:" and when i press keys they don't show up |
| 23:02.32 | hrw | under OZ? |
| 23:02.46 | HYB | no |
| 23:02.52 | HYB | I just put the tarball on the SD card |
| 23:02.56 | HYB | then i need to partition my hdd |
| 23:03.09 | HYB | and it says to boot into the terminal or what ever |
| 23:03.10 | HYB | and I'm there |
| 23:03.16 | hrw | so you have problem in rescue system? |
| 23:03.18 | HYB | it's just no keys are recognized except for space bar |
| 23:03.30 | hrw | no idea |
| 23:03.50 | Webo | it happened to me sthg similar |
| 23:03.53 | Webo | with pdaxrom |
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| 23:04.04 | Webo | when I exited X, my "a" key stopped working |
| 23:04.06 | Webo | until reboot |
| 23:04.07 | Webo | :S |
| 23:21.56 | HYB | >__> |
| 23:21.58 | HYB | I got an error :( |
| 23:34.49 | HYB | Hey guys |
| 23:34.56 | HYB | when i try and boot into Opie |
| 23:35.00 | HYB | i get |
| 23:35.07 | HYB | "HDD2 Error!!" |