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00:41.04scarperhi, I'm running OZ 3.5.4.2-rc2 on poodle... and when I insert a vfat-formatted CF card I get the following errors:
00:41.06scarperProbing IDE interface ide0...
00:41.06scarperhda: Flash Card, CFA DISK drive
00:41.06scarperide0 at 0xc2820000-0xc2820007,0xc282000e on irq 40
00:41.06scarperhda: max request size: 128KiB
00:41.07scarperhda: 257536 sectors (131 MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=503/16/32
00:41.07scarper<PROTECTED>
00:41.09scarperide: failed opcode was: unknown
00:41.13scarperhda: drive not ready for command
00:41.15scarperide0: reset: success
00:41.48scarperI would normally think that the card is dying... but this is the same CF I used to install OZ in the first place... plus, it works when I connect it to a card reader to my PC
00:41.54scarperany ideas on what could be going on?
00:43.15NAbyss_scarper: Run a full-disk test on the card
00:43.53scarperNAbyss_, full disk test?
00:44.50NAbyss_scarper: Yeah, fsck on the entire device
00:44.50scarperNAbyss_, oh, ok...
00:51.04scarperNAbyss_, it seemed to be a problem with the numbers of FATs on the card... (or at least, that was what fsck said)
00:51.13scarperI just mkfs'ed it again and now it works
00:51.41scarperweird that the PC didn't complain about it and everything worked fine...
00:56.41scarperno, wait... It didn't worked... now I don't get errors when inserting the card... but I can't mount it...
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04:52.08Com[Plex]<PROTECTED>
04:53.12Com[Plex]its 'host unreachable' for me.
04:54.10scarperCom[Plex], it seems to work fine for me...
04:55.25Com[Plex]hmm.. I can reach it fine from work too... hmm
04:56.42JustinPI've never been able to reach it
04:57.33Com[Plex]there must be a fiber seeking backhoe some where... traceroute bails about half way there.
05:06.57Com[Plex]whats the best place to source a new zaurus from nowadays?  I see they have made a ton of new ones, the c3xxx and stuff seem pretty intense.
05:07.17Com[Plex]sharps still not making these for general consumers in the USA?
05:14.23JustinPno, no USA models right now, AFAIK
05:14.31JustinPI got my C3000 from Dynamism a few years ago
05:17.21Com[Plex]dynamism. theres a name I remember
05:20.02Com[Plex]still cost just as much?
05:20.40JustinPwell, the older models cost less if you can find them....
05:20.47JustinPyou can just go look
05:20.50JustinPdynamism.com
05:20.55Com[Plex]yeah, im there. thanks
05:21.05Com[Plex]just making small talk
05:22.41Com[Plex]799 for a pda... hmm. dont think my fiance would go for that. heheh.,
05:23.12JustinPheh
05:23.17JustinPI found an excuse for mine...
05:23.23JustinPbig tax return
05:23.47Com[Plex]heh. that would be nice. but I need a new roof this year so my money is tied up.
05:23.58Com[Plex]its ok, my 5500 works just fine so I will just stick with that.
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06:09.59Com[Plex]Im trying to find out how big of a CF memory card the 5500 can handle, but I cant seem to find it anywhere.  does anyone here have that information?
06:10.16Com[Plex]2 gig cf cards are only 25 bucks right now. Id like to pick one up
06:10.49summatusmentisCom[Plex]: I'm not sure it matters, don't quote me on this, but I think there isn't really a limitation
06:11.22hvontres|homeCom[Plex]: I have used a 5Gig CF micro drive on my poodle
06:11.54Com[Plex]nice
06:13.54hvontres|homeCom[Plex]: check this deal : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820211048
06:16.34Com[Plex]wow
06:26.26Com[Plex]uh.. so whats this terminal shortcut thing in my O menu?
06:26.39Com[Plex]I just picked terminal 3 and hung the z
06:27.19Com[Plex]vt shortcut
06:27.30Com[Plex]deleted..
06:34.51hvontres|homeCom[Plex]: actually, you didn't hang the Z, vt3 just doesn't have a console running.. :)
06:35.53hvontres|homeCom[Plex]: If you do it again, you can ssh in and use chvt :)
06:39.29Com[Plex]yeah, I didnt have my network configured yet
06:39.56Com[Plex]hmm.. something odd is going on now. it doesnt want to susp[end
06:40.02Com[Plex]it froze up. heh
06:40.45Com[Plex]man, my linux skills are RUSTY.
06:41.02Com[Plex]every time I pick this thing up, its like I have to learn it all over again.
06:41.30Com[Plex]I picck it up quick enough. but since I dont use linux much at work, I forgetit all the moment I get bored with the z.
06:41.30Com[Plex]heh
06:42.50Com[Plex]first order of business is to get VNC working again. and ssh..
06:43.23Com[Plex]ah well. im beat. im gonna hit the sack
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13:51.41calmofthestorm7so...I accidentally turned the LCD brightness to 0 in OPIE, and now I can't see the screen to turn it back on...what can I do?
13:51.45calmofthestorm7*hangs head in shame*
13:52.23AzzIzzAuse the keys
13:52.38calmofthestorm7sorry, which keys?
13:52.40AzzIzzAfn+so4
13:52.47AzzIzzAum fn+4
13:52.54AzzIzzAassuming you have a clamshell
13:53.05AzzIzzAi dont know about the slidey ones
13:53.08calmofthestorm7oh yeah, model would help
13:53.11calmofthestorm7it's a slidey one
13:53.15calmofthestorm75600 sorry
13:53.19AzzIzzAoh :(
13:53.19calmofthestorm7ah well, I'll look it up
13:53.26AzzIzzAdont have one of them sorry
13:57.08calmofthestorm7any idea where it would be in /proc or /sys?
13:57.25calmofthestorm7I have full access until opie starts, then it turns off
13:57.32calmofthestorm7but it's sitll on 'cause I get processing occasionally
14:09.07AzzIzzAcant see anything obvious
14:09.16AzzIzzAonly thing i found is /proc/power_mode
14:09.25AzzIzzAwhich contains 0x00000100
14:09.31calmofthestorm7thanks
14:09.35calmofthestorm7;)
14:09.59AzzIzzAactually
14:10.03AzzIzzAplug it into mains power
14:10.12AzzIzzAthe screen should switch to full brightness
14:10.24calmofthestorm7it's been plugged in the whole time
14:10.28AzzIzzAoh :/
14:10.33calmofthestorm7hmmm, but if I unplug it shouldn't it go to that level?
14:10.41AzzIzzAworth a shot
14:10.48calmofthestorm7I'm flashing it at hte moment, I'll try that next
14:10.51calmofthestorm7(new, no important data)
14:11.10AzzIzzAflashing it should reset everything anyway
14:11.13AzzIzzAmines similar
14:11.21calmofthestorm7new you mean?
14:11.26AzzIzzAive flashed a few times in the past week trying to get my wireless card working :/
14:11.32calmofthestorm7what model?
14:11.36calmofthestorm7of wifi card?
14:11.36AzzIzzAnewish, no data
14:11.38AzzIzzAc1000
14:11.40AzzIzzAoh
14:11.45AzzIzzAsymbol la41387
14:11.51AzzIzzA4137 rather
14:12.18calmofthestorm7lol well after the last 10 hours I've become an expert at getting the ConnectPlus from Sandisk working
14:12.19calmofthestorm7;)
14:12.27calmofthestorm7just got it, was about to go to slepe, turned down screen, *pow*
14:12.34AzzIzzAit says spectrum24 on the front which is apparently supported ok, but in the fine print on the back it says la4137
14:12.38calmofthestorm7hmmm
14:12.58AzzIzzAthats the one with flash as well as wireless isnt it?
14:13.01calmofthestorm7yep
14:13.06calmofthestorm7got both working simultaneously
14:13.07AzzIzzAdoes it support both functions ok?
14:13.10AzzIzzAcool
14:13.20calmofthestorm7it needed a bit of tweaking
14:13.20AzzIzzAif i have to buy another card, i might look at one of them
14:13.27calmofthestorm7but mostly the packages from the feed do it
14:14.01calmofthestorm7these things aren't exactly user friendly; I can see why non-linuxy types don't like them
14:14.02AzzIzzAwell if i end up getting one i might come pick your brains
14:14.18calmofthestorm7lol
14:14.19calmofthestorm7no worries
14:14.22AzzIzzAi think if you stick with the sharp rom and approved hardware its ok
14:14.27calmofthestorm7oh I didn't
14:14.31calmofthestorm7openzaurus
14:14.49AzzIzzAits when you start buying random things and installing 3rd party roms that they become a bit harder to set up
14:14.54calmofthestorm7lol
14:14.56calmofthestorm7yeah
14:15.07calmofthestorm7especially if you didn't know sd was propriatary
14:15.09calmofthestorm7and unsupported
14:15.18AzzIzzAyeah the c1000 is japan only, so i have to use a 3rd party rom
14:15.22calmofthestorm7at least there's mmc which will work in the slot
14:15.24calmofthestorm7oh wow
14:15.25calmofthestorm7hard core;)
14:15.33calmofthestorm7yeah it took me weeks of ebaying to get a 5600
14:15.39calmofthestorm7worth it though, for only $140 ish
14:15.41AzzIzzAsd works, just not sdio
14:15.53AzzIzzAunless my sd card is just dropping into a compatibility mode
14:15.55calmofthestorm7sorry, what's the difference?
14:16.13AzzIzzAsd is data storage, sdio is wireless/bluetooth etc
14:16.19calmofthestorm7aaah
14:16.23calmofthestorm7hmmm, it would appear flashing does not in fact reset the screen
14:16.29calmofthestorm7also my sd storage chip doesn't seem to work
14:16.33calmofthestorm7but I haven't screwd around with it much yet
14:16.49AzzIzzAi know some machines had problems with >1gb sd cards
14:17.05calmofthestorm7YES
14:17.08calmofthestorm7WE HAVE SCREEN
14:17.10calmofthestorm7erm sorry
14:17.21AzzIzzAwhat did you do?
14:17.26AzzIzzAjust reboot after the flash?
14:17.30calmofthestorm7took out power cord and tapped the screen
14:17.31calmofthestorm7yeah
14:17.51calmofthestorm7and just lost ita gain
14:17.52calmofthestorm7hmmm
14:20.21calmofthestorm7oh eyah, the sandisk card
14:20.27calmofthestorm7so what I did was latest OpenZaurus
14:20.38calmofthestorm7then just got hte packages prism3-support and prism3-firmware
14:20.52calmofthestorm7then use the graphical utility to set essid, etc
14:20.59calmofthestorm7and the ifup to actually connect
14:21.09calmofthestorm7before you do any of that
14:21.24calmofthestorm7modprobe hostap
14:21.24calmofthestorm7/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart
14:21.24calmofthestorm7modprobe hostap_cs
14:21.36calmofthestorm7if you skip the restart, for some reason the modprobe on hostap_cs freezes solid
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14:27.53AzzIzzAhrmmm...i think if you try and put a cf card in your pc sideways and bend the pins, its possibly a sign you need more sleep
14:27.58AzzIzzAi think i best go to bed
14:28.02AzzIzzAadios
14:28.08calmofthestorm7nite
14:28.11calmofthestorm7it's 7 here;P
14:28.12calmofthestorm7er 630
14:28.14calmofthestorm7cya
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16:16.48Com[Plex]got a question... I just dug out my zaurus after stuffing it in a box for about a year and a half. and after a fresh flashing of 3.5.4, I cant seem to log into my z through ssh. what is the default password?
16:17.06Com[Plex]do I have to set something up before it will let me ssh in?
16:17.22mimecaryou set the password, I think
16:17.48mimecarhave you use your user password ?
16:17.50Com[Plex]my linux skills are russsty...
16:18.05Com[Plex]dont think I ever set one up
16:18.22mimecaron opie
16:18.27mimecarwhat's your root password ?
16:18.32NAbyss_Com[Plex]: You have to start sshd on the Z, then ssh in with a blank root pwd
16:19.04Com[Plex]well, I think sshd is already running, since when I ssh to it, I get prompted with a login
16:25.41Com[Plex]got it.
16:25.49Com[Plex]just had to reun passwd and create a password
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16:51.25Com[Plex]I have anbother problem. when trying to follow these instructions to put root fs on my sd card, http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Collie/TipsAndTricks - they say to "reboot and install cardfs" - but the cardfs file I downloaded is a bin file.... how do I go about installing this?
16:52.19Com[Plex]"cardfs-opie-collie-openzaurus_oz3.5.4.1-rc4-opie1.2.1-T1.bin"
16:53.33Com[Plex]guess this is probably a hentges question..
16:55.44summatusmentisCom[Plex]: yeah, I don't think vanilla OZ does cardfs
16:56.01summatusmentisI'm not sure how to help on that, you could look at the hentges site
16:57.03Prof_FrinkYay, wifi!
17:16.04Com[Plex]roger that.
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18:05.42Com[Plex]anyone using vnc with 3.5.4? (fbvncserver)
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20:26.39JustinPanyone know where some hardware documentation is for the Zaurii? (specifically C3000)
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