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| 00:56.33 | mimecar | pohi Poseidon2007 |
| 00:56.58 | Poseidon2007 | hello |
| 00:59.25 | Poseidon2007 | are there any problems with the website ? www.oesf.org ? |
| 00:59.32 | mimecar | yes |
| 00:59.52 | Poseidon2007 | ohhhhhh thanks for the answer..... thought it was my DNS... ok.... |
| 01:00.08 | Poseidon2007 | may I ask when would it be on-line ? thanks... |
| 01:00.15 | mimecar | no idea |
| 01:00.53 | Poseidon2007 | all right...... what a pitty... its down... just when I had some free time.... |
| 01:01.08 | mimecar | xDDD |
| 01:01.19 | Poseidon2007 | any other place where I can find information for SL-5500 ? |
| 01:01.21 | mimecar | you can use google cache |
| 01:01.34 | Poseidon2007 | Im using it actually :-P |
| 01:01.52 | Poseidon2007 | thats how I found the Chat channel.. |
| 01:02.07 | mimecar | :) |
| 01:02.49 | Poseidon2007 | mimecar... do u have a SL-5500 ? |
| 01:02.57 | mimecar | yes |
| 01:03.04 | Poseidon2007 | ohh ok... |
| 01:03.13 | Poseidon2007 | can I ask u some questions ? |
| 01:03.19 | mimecar | yes |
| 01:03.25 | Poseidon2007 | thanks mate... |
| 01:03.51 | Poseidon2007 | I Installed the sync software in a XP box... |
| 01:04.02 | Poseidon2007 | and Im using the craddle |
| 01:04.18 | Poseidon2007 | now... I cant sync the PDA with the Windows box... |
| 01:04.36 | Poseidon2007 | I have installed and re-installed several times... the software in Windows.. |
| 01:04.40 | Poseidon2007 | didnt work.... |
| 01:04.43 | mimecar | i sync with the sd card |
| 01:04.56 | Poseidon2007 | ummmmm |
| 01:05.06 | Poseidon2007 | u mean... u read... ur SD card from Windows... |
| 01:05.19 | Poseidon2007 | and then u put it back to the Zaurus.. and it works ? |
| 01:05.21 | mimecar | i use kopi for the appintments |
| 01:05.48 | mimecar | there's a windows version of kopi which can open zaurus kopi files |
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| 01:06.12 | Poseidon2007 | Im very new... so dont understand much the names... |
| 01:06.18 | Poseidon2007 | What is Kopi ? |
| 01:06.33 | mimecar | is a calendar app for opie |
| 01:06.42 | Poseidon2007 | right.... |
| 01:06.59 | Poseidon2007 | so u run it in Windows.. and then COPY the data to the SD card... |
| 01:07.12 | Poseidon2007 | after that... u place back the SD card into the Zaurus |
| 01:07.15 | Poseidon2007 | right ? |
| 01:07.21 | mimecar | yes |
| 01:07.50 | Poseidon2007 | why dont u use the craddle or WIFI or Infra-red ? |
| 01:08.13 | mimecar | you can sync with wifi, i sink |
| 01:08.19 | mimecar | but sd is the easier method |
| 01:08.26 | Poseidon2007 | sure..... |
| 01:08.31 | Poseidon2007 | now...... |
| 01:08.39 | mimecar | infrared is slow |
| 01:08.47 | Poseidon2007 | yes....... |
| 01:08.52 | Poseidon2007 | I agree |
| 01:09.08 | Poseidon2007 | now.... how do u install software into the Zaurus ? |
| 01:09.19 | Poseidon2007 | same story... copy it to the SD ... ? |
| 01:09.32 | mimecar | have you a wifi card ? |
| 01:09.37 | Poseidon2007 | I have |
| 01:09.43 | Poseidon2007 | D-Link Air |
| 01:09.44 | mimecar | system on sd ? |
| 01:10.13 | Poseidon2007 | not sure.... |
| 01:10.31 | Poseidon2007 | I got the PDA from Internet... havent played much with it... |
| 01:10.43 | Poseidon2007 | not sure wehre is the System ? |
| 01:10.49 | Poseidon2007 | System as OS ? |
| 01:10.53 | mimecar | you won't have |
| 01:11.00 | mimecar | OS is on the internal memory |
| 01:11.14 | mimecar | that memory has 1.2 MB free more or less |
| 01:11.29 | mimecar | if you install something, you won't have free space |
| 01:11.59 | Poseidon2007 | right |
| 01:12.08 | Poseidon2007 | so I install software in the SD |
| 01:12.17 | mimecar | yes |
| 01:12.37 | Poseidon2007 | what did u mean with " system on sd ? " |
| 01:12.59 | mimecar | you can "move" the system to the sd card |
| 01:13.11 | mimecar | then you will have the sd free space for installing apps |
| 01:13.49 | Poseidon2007 | U mean... the root file system ? |
| 01:14.01 | mimecar | yes |
| 01:14.08 | mimecar | there's a doc on the openzaurus wiki |
| 01:14.10 | Poseidon2007 | cool.... gotcha |
| 01:14.56 | Poseidon2007 | ok....... |
| 01:15.28 | Poseidon2007 | now in general... How good is it for playing movies ? |
| 01:15.33 | Poseidon2007 | whats ur experience ? |
| 01:15.45 | mimecar | I don't use for that task |
| 01:16.06 | Poseidon2007 | what d u use it for ? |
| 01:16.42 | mimecar | develop |
| 01:16.54 | mimecar | is somebody here with gpe ? |
| 01:17.12 | Poseidon2007 | do u compile on it ? is it fast enough ? |
| 01:17.35 | mimecar | I write programs with python |
| 01:17.44 | dspencek | Poseidon2007: what kinda z do you have? |
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| 01:18.39 | Poseidon2007 | Sl-5500 |
| 01:18.51 | dspencek | i think i tried running a video a while back on my clamshell, but wasnt really impressed by the whole experience |
| 01:18.53 | Poseidon2007 | Python is cool :-) |
| 01:19.19 | dspencek | i wasnt really disappointed, lets face it, the screen is small |
| 01:19.24 | mimecar | dspencek: did you adapt the video size for the screen resolution ? |
| 01:19.30 | dspencek | yeah |
| 01:19.46 | Poseidon2007 | yes... the screen is small..... |
| 01:20.25 | mimecar | clamshell? C1000 ? |
| 01:20.46 | dspencek | 640x480 is something, i was using mplayer on opie, i havnt had much luck with opie media player 1 or 2, i think i read they take up a lot of memory or something... |
| 01:20.59 | dspencek | 760 |
| 01:21.08 | mimecar | I see videos with a 320x480 screen |
| 01:21.14 | mimecar | they look perfect |
| 01:22.44 | Poseidon2007 | have u tried to compile the Kernel ? How long does it take ? Is it a Linux Vanilla kernel ? |
| 01:23.43 | mimecar | I don't |
| 01:25.31 | Poseidon2007 | mimecar: which kernel are u using ? |
| 01:25.42 | mimecar | the kernel of OZ |
| 01:25.56 | Poseidon2007 | ok |
| 01:26.10 | Poseidon2007 | Have u tried... Kernel development ? |
| 01:26.14 | mimecar | I lost my gpe installation if I reboot :( |
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| 01:29.32 | Poseidon2007 | maybe some init file is run and it deletes ur gpe.... |
| 01:29.32 | Poseidon2007 | whats ur gpe ? |
| 01:29.57 | mimecar | openzaurus has two desktops: opie and gpe |
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| 01:34.03 | Poseidon2007 | okey guys... thanks for the information.... I need to play more with this PDA and will get back to u with more questions :-P |
| 01:35.34 | Poseidon2007 | hehehehe more questions.. |
| 01:35.50 | mimecar | I'm tired |
| 01:35.54 | mimecar | good night |
| 01:36.00 | Poseidon2007 | ohhhhhhh ok.... |
| 01:36.05 | Poseidon2007 | Thanks... |
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| 01:36.50 | Poseidon2007 | dspencek: do u develop with the Zaurus ? |
| 01:37.08 | dspencek | not too much |
| 01:37.27 | Poseidon2007 | whats ur experience ? What can u share ? |
| 01:37.28 | dspencek | i have the compilers and interpreters on it |
| 01:37.35 | Poseidon2007 | Im new... thats why Im asking.. |
| 01:38.05 | dspencek | lately its just so i can say i have gcc g++ perl python tcl on it incase someone tries to propose something silly in a meeting or something |
| 01:38.48 | Poseidon2007 | developing - on - the fly ? ..... nice !! |
| 01:39.07 | dspencek | yeah |
| 01:39.19 | dspencek | i've been getting into pod/netcasts lately |
| 01:39.24 | dspencek | so i put those on there |
| 01:39.48 | Poseidon2007 | yes I want do the same.... cool.... |
| 01:40.17 | Poseidon2007 | no kernel development ? |
| 01:40.56 | dspencek | naa, i havnt figured out that stuff yet |
| 01:41.09 | dspencek | i've been trying to figure out openembedded lately |
| 01:41.28 | dspencek | building distros and packages |
| 01:42.37 | Poseidon2007 | whats openembedded ? |
| 01:44.02 | dspencek | to me its the management system that makes compiling packages and distros "easy" |
| 01:44.33 | dspencek | you can probably find a better description on google or their website |
| 01:45.35 | Poseidon2007 | okey..... |
| 01:45.52 | Poseidon2007 | Can u have a boot loader in the Zaurus ? |
| 01:45.58 | Poseidon2007 | for different Kernels ? |
| 01:47.03 | dspencek | as far as i know, there is something called altboot kinda looks like a boot loader, but is not real boot loader |
| 01:47.20 | dspencek | it only supports 1 kernel version |
| 01:47.56 | dspencek | i dont think anyone has written a real bootloader for the zaurus |
| 01:47.58 | Poseidon2007 | okey |
| 01:48.26 | Poseidon2007 | Network Applications..... multi-threads... have u tried any development with them ? |
| 01:48.59 | dspencek | i think the original sharp bootloader is always used, and altboot runs in a very stripped down environement, there is an altboot FAQ on the website with the official story |
| 01:49.14 | Poseidon2007 | ok... |
| 01:50.18 | dspencek | i dont know much about multi-threads, most of my development is stuff for work, or my own little scripts to keep me from typing stuff over and over |
| 01:51.02 | Poseidon2007 | okis.... |
| 01:51.21 | dspencek | have you done kernel development before? |
| 01:51.35 | Poseidon2007 | yes.... in X86 machines... |
| 01:51.55 | Poseidon2007 | kernel modules.. |
| 01:51.56 | dspencek | device drivers? |
| 01:52.05 | Poseidon2007 | routing protocol |
| 01:52.13 | dspencek | ahh |
| 01:52.27 | Poseidon2007 | research stuff |
| 01:52.37 | Poseidon2007 | new routing protocol.... |
| 01:53.31 | dspencek | you should probably look into using openembedded (oe) http://www.openembedded.org |
| 01:53.43 | Poseidon2007 | Yeahhh Im there actually... |
| 01:53.55 | Poseidon2007 | trying to understand the whole enchilada :-P |
| 01:55.28 | Poseidon2007 | UGLY question... I guess... |
| 01:55.28 | Poseidon2007 | what d u think of the HP Ipaq machines ? |
| 01:55.28 | dspencek | coo, hopefully they have a good tutorial on how to set it up, when i went there a few years back, i had a lot of trouble. but i found a tutorial on the angstrom distribution website on how to do it (http://www.angstrom-distribution.org) |
| 01:55.40 | Poseidon2007 | okey.... angstrom.... |
| 01:55.50 | Poseidon2007 | Im learning a lot here... thanks !! |
| 01:56.13 | dspencek | its another distribution for zaurus among other things.... |
| 01:56.41 | dspencek | i chose the zaurus over the ipaq mainly because of the keyboard at first |
| 01:57.05 | dspencek | i have a 5500 too, but never use it now, i cracked the screen and replaced it, but it wasnt the same |
| 01:57.26 | Poseidon2007 | ohhh sorry to hear that... |
| 01:57.41 | Poseidon2007 | Yeahhh keyboard is good.... |
| 01:57.58 | Poseidon2007 | Checking the Angstrom site..... interesting.... |
| 01:58.28 | dspencek | then i found the clamshells and fell in love with them |
| 01:58.55 | dspencek | just wish they sold them in the US |
| 02:00.02 | Poseidon2007 | ohhh the States... I miss it.... |
| 02:00.08 | Poseidon2007 | I used to live in FL... |
| 02:00.45 | dspencek | fl is nice...nice and warm :0) |
| 02:01.00 | Poseidon2007 | yeahhhhh ... was lucky to meet good people there... |
| 02:01.19 | Poseidon2007 | funny... just december... is cold... :-P |
| 02:01.33 | Poseidon2007 | 2 weeks... or 4.... but no more... |
| 02:01.49 | dspencek | :0) |
| 02:02.48 | Poseidon2007 | well.... almost 200 am here.... |
| 02:03.02 | Poseidon2007 | Thanks for the information..dspencek.... |
| 02:03.21 | Poseidon2007 | I might join this channel another time... |
| 02:03.33 | Poseidon2007 | have a nice sundat.... |
| 02:03.41 | Poseidon2007 | sunday* |
| 02:03.42 | dspencek | i'll try |
| 02:03.51 | dspencek | its superbowl sunday :0) |
| 02:03.54 | Poseidon2007 | hehehehehe |
| 02:04.03 | Poseidon2007 | ohhh American Football.... |
| 02:04.23 | Poseidon2007 | U guys love it... right ? ;-) |
| 02:04.43 | Poseidon2007 | Im more into... what u call... soccer.... or Football :-) |
| 02:05.08 | dspencek | yeah, superbowl is pretty special here, if not for the game, then for the commercials |
| 02:05.31 | Poseidon2007 | yeahhhh |
| 02:05.41 | Poseidon2007 | and u have BBQ before the game... |
| 02:05.50 | Poseidon2007 | how do u call them ? |
| 02:05.56 | dspencek | if youre somewhere warm you do :0) |
| 02:06.00 | dspencek | tailgate parties |
| 02:06.04 | Poseidon2007 | hehehhe |
| 02:06.19 | Poseidon2007 | yeahh my mates in FL... used to have them... |
| 02:07.43 | Poseidon2007 | okey... bye |
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| 12:10.32 | Poseidon2007 | hello... any SL 5500 user here ? |
| 14:00.50 | Laibsch | yes |
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| 14:48.49 | Poseidon2007 | hello... any SL 5500 user here ? |
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| 14:58.46 | danboid | Hi! |
| 14:58.58 | Poseidon2007 | hi |
| 14:59.10 | danboid | Hi Poseidon07! |
| 14:59.44 | danboid | Atlantean or King Crimson reference? :) |
| 15:00.27 | Poseidon2007 | hehehehe |
| 15:00.33 | danboid | Does anyone here know anything about GPE 2.8 and when we can expect it? |
| 15:00.35 | Poseidon2007 | More Atlantean stuff |
| 15:01.05 | Poseidon2007 | danboid: d u have SL 5500 ? |
| 15:01.18 | danboid | ah noo- c3000 + c3100 |
| 15:01.33 | Poseidon2007 | okey..... |
| 15:01.53 | danboid | zaurus chat seems to be dead today |
| 15:02.05 | Poseidon2007 | I see... |
| 15:02.11 | Poseidon2007 | Im new to this :-) |
| 15:02.23 | Poseidon2007 | Starting with a Sl 5500 |
| 15:02.37 | Poseidon2007 | trying to figure out whjat to do ... install.. |
| 15:02.58 | Poseidon2007 | hey... do u use GCC++ in ur C* machines ? |
| 15:04.49 | danboid | I use gcc yes |
| 15:04.59 | danboid | and g++ to compile stuff |
| 15:05.10 | Poseidon2007 | threads.... networking stuff ? |
| 15:05.22 | danboid | go on |
| 15:05.32 | danboid | :) |
| 15:06.03 | Poseidon2007 | I mean have u developed any type of thise applications for the Zaurus ? |
| 15:06.18 | danboid | no, sorry |
| 15:06.26 | danboid | can't help with that |
| 15:06.37 | Poseidon2007 | may I ask what kind of applications ? |
| 15:07.31 | danboid | You'd be better off asking such questions in a channel dedicated to whatever language it is you want to code something in or on of the many linux dev channels than in here probably |
| 15:08.14 | danboid | sorry I can't be of more help than that- gotta bo! |
| 15:08.29 | danboid | erm, go sorry :) |
| 15:08.35 | danboid | bo! |
| 15:08.41 | Poseidon2007 | hehehe ok... |
| 15:08.46 | danboid | bye! |
| 15:08.54 | Poseidon2007 | bye |
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| 15:40.36 | mimecar | hi |
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| 20:03.48 | Poseidon2007 | Hello...... |
| 20:04.48 | mimecar | hi Poseidon2007 |
| 20:07.10 | Poseidon2007 | hey...... more questions...so basically when u start using openzaurus... u delete the software the Zaurus came with..... |
| 20:07.24 | Poseidon2007 | and u start using the applications from OpenZaurus... |
| 20:08.15 | webmind | yes |
| 20:09.37 | Poseidon2007 | I believe as OpenZaurus is more up-to-date.... is worth it.... |
| 20:09.56 | Poseidon2007 | any problems u think could be with changing to OpenZaruus ? |
| 20:10.03 | Poseidon2007 | I have SL 5500 |
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| 20:17.32 | Poseidon2007 | what if I want go back to the original Zaurus software , is there any howto that explains that ? |
| 20:18.07 | mimecar | if you have installed another system |
| 20:18.20 | mimecar | and you haven't backup, you won't do it |
| 20:19.32 | Poseidon2007 | sure... is there a howto that explains how to do the backup, or is it just a matter of saving Files from the Zaurus before installing OpenZaurus ? |
| 20:19.53 | mimecar | you must do the backup of all the system |
| 20:20.05 | mimecar | not some files |
| 20:20.39 | Poseidon2007 | okey |
| 20:22.18 | Poseidon2007 | mimecar: have u tried Angstrom or other distribution ? |
| 20:22.38 | mimecar | thekompany, hentege.. |
| 20:22.49 | mimecar | angstrom doesn't work on SL-5500 |
| 20:27.26 | Poseidon2007 | okey.... |
| 20:28.34 | Poseidon2007 | no more questions for the moment...... will read some more docs... and ask for help if needed ( 90% prob.. ) :-P |
| 20:29.49 | mimecar | ok |
| 20:29.58 | Poseidon2007 | thanks |
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