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| 00:37.39 | rvalles | another thing |
| 00:37.51 | rvalles | is SL-5500's usb2 supposed to be usb2 or 1? |
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| 01:02.25 | NA|BNE | rvalles: IIRC, it's usb2 at "full" speed (11/12Mbit) |
| 01:10.34 | rvalles | NA|BNE: 11/12mbit... sounds more like usb1 |
| 01:11.08 | agaffney | rvalles: with USB2, there is "full" and "high" (or something) |
| 01:11.14 | agaffney | with "full" being the lower speed |
| 01:11.23 | agaffney | yes, it's completely retarded |
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| 01:13.47 | rvalles | btw, does i/o error on resolv.conf ring any bells? |
| 01:16.33 | rvalles | that happened to me... twice |
| 01:16.45 | rvalles | on my attempts to make root be in SD |
| 01:17.03 | rvalles | I think it's related to /var being tmpfs |
| 01:17.14 | rvalles | and /etc/resolv.conf being a link to /var |
| 01:17.19 | rvalles | it makes the kernel crazy or something |
| 01:18.37 | rvalles | now I'm on the (stable) system on the flash... |
| 01:18.39 | rvalles | and... |
| 01:18.45 | rvalles | logged out |
| 01:18.50 | rvalles | and that's it... I cannot do nothing |
| 01:18.58 | rvalles | the image from me logging out remains |
| 01:19.05 | rvalles | but I cannot do anything |
| 01:19.09 | rvalles | crazy stuff |
| 01:22.00 | agaffney | rvalles: did you create the loopback with the menu option in altboot? |
| 01:23.13 | rvalles | agaffney: no, I mkfs'd an ext2 at the first (and only) partition on the SD |
| 01:23.21 | rvalles | agaffney: and then told him to install directly |
| 01:23.35 | rvalles | did that twice, ended up with the same problem twice |
| 01:23.53 | agaffney | "install directly"? |
| 01:23.56 | rvalles | yup |
| 01:24.00 | agaffney | ah, ok |
| 01:24.01 | rvalles | basically |
| 01:24.04 | agaffney | nm |
| 01:24.10 | agaffney | I misunderstood |
| 01:24.12 | rvalles | altboot... -> 8 (install rootfs from tarball) |
| 01:24.20 | rvalles | -> to sd |
| 01:24.21 | agaffney | ok, then yes, you did it from altboot |
| 01:24.24 | rvalles | -> install directly |
| 01:24.28 | rvalles | -> yes |
| 01:24.33 | agaffney | altboot fucks things up |
| 01:24.36 | agaffney | you have to do it by hand |
| 01:24.44 | rvalles | on my first try |
| 01:24.47 | rvalles | I did it by hand |
| 01:24.52 | agaffney | how exactly? |
| 01:24.57 | rvalles | unpacked the tarball in the ext2 partition |
| 01:24.59 | rvalles | in my computer |
| 01:25.06 | rvalles | then unmounted |
| 01:25.12 | rvalles | and put the SD in the zaurus |
| 01:25.21 | rvalles | and told altboot to "boot from SD" |
| 01:25.22 | agaffney | because the only way that most people have been able to get it to work is to create a fat32 filesystem, create an ext2 loopback on it, and extract the tarball in the loopback |
| 01:25.28 | rvalles | that was all |
| 01:25.36 | agaffney | for some reason, collie doesn't like ext2 directly on SD |
| 01:25.55 | rvalles | that's a tip that the wiki _must_ have written there, already |
| 01:26.44 | rvalles | so I should just run altboot again and tell it to install in a loopback |
| 01:27.27 | rvalles | and that, of course, after making the SD be a vfat partition by doing mkfs.vfat /dev/the_sd_partition_1 on my computer |
| 01:27.31 | rvalles | am I right? |
| 01:28.06 | agaffney | no, don't use altboot |
| 01:28.09 | agaffney | you don't listen :P |
| 01:28.12 | agaffney | altboot messes it up |
| 01:28.15 | agaffney | in all cases |
| 01:28.18 | agaffney | at least on collie |
| 01:28.28 | agaffney | you need to do it in another compouter |
| 01:28.30 | agaffney | *computer |
| 01:29.18 | rvalles | ok |
| 01:29.23 | rvalles | so |
| 01:29.34 | rvalles | 1. I _must_ do it in the computer |
| 01:30.04 | rvalles | 2. I _must_ make a loopback inside the vfat |
| 01:30.12 | rvalles | agaffney: am I right? |
| 01:30.45 | rvalles | what a pita |
| 01:31.49 | rvalles | tsunami mnt # mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1 |
| 01:31.49 | rvalles | mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) |
| 01:32.22 | agaffney | rvalles: pretty much |
| 01:32.35 | rvalles | agaffney: ok |
| 01:32.37 | rvalles | and now |
| 01:32.41 | agaffney | and it's the same thing altboot does for a loopback |
| 01:32.47 | rvalles | how should I call this "loopback image"? |
| 01:32.47 | agaffney | although, it may use ext2 directly on the card |
| 01:33.04 | agaffney | whatever you want, as long as it ends with -rootfs.bin |
| 01:33.05 | agaffney | iirc |
| 01:33.14 | rvalles | in / is okay? |
| 01:33.22 | agaffney | and is in the folder /boot-images/ on the vfat |
| 01:33.24 | rvalles | or should I put it in that infamous boot-images/ |
| 01:33.26 | rvalles | ok |
| 01:34.06 | rvalles | tsunami boot-images # dd if=/dev/zero of=collie-rootfs.bin |
| 01:34.13 | rvalles | agaffney: good enough? |
| 01:34.33 | agaffney | uhh, you might want to define a size :P |
| 01:34.42 | agaffney | bs=1M count=300 |
| 01:34.44 | rvalles | if I'm right I'll end up with the biggest possible |
| 01:34.45 | agaffney | for 300MB |
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| 01:34.54 | rvalles | multiple of the default BS for dd |
| 01:35.11 | agaffney | sure |
| 01:35.20 | agaffney | but it never hurts to leave a bit of room on the SD card |
| 01:35.29 | agaffney | you'll never use that much space in your install |
| 01:35.35 | agaffney | there aren't that many apps to install :P |
| 01:36.53 | rvalles | tsunami boot-images # dd if=/dev/zero of=collie-rootfs.bin bs=1M count=950 |
| 01:37.07 | rvalles | (df showed 981M free, so that leaves 31) |
| 01:38.14 | agaffney | good enough |
| 01:38.45 | agaffney | now 'mke2fs collie-rootfs.bin' and 'mount -o loop collie-rootfs.bin /mnt/point' and extract the rootfs |
| 01:38.49 | rvalles | /dev/sdc1 981M 951M 31M 97% /mnt/securedigital |
| 01:38.52 | rvalles | in fact. |
| 01:42.23 | rvalles | unpacking the tarball. |
| 01:42.28 | rvalles | unpacked. |
| 01:43.18 | rvalles | now, should I just unmount it, sync (just in case) and boot the zaurus telling altboot to boot from SD, agaffney? |
| 01:45.53 | agaffney | yep |
| 01:46.07 | agaffney | and hopefully, it will now boot without all the I/O errors |
| 01:46.18 | agaffney | many people have run into the same issue on collie with SD root |
| 01:46.24 | agaffney | nobody knows why |
| 01:46.35 | agaffney | nobody probably cares enough to figure out why :P |
| 01:46.57 | rvalles | probably some bug on the SD driver |
| 01:47.39 | agaffney | there are lots of those :P |
| 01:49.14 | rvalles | booting... |
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| 01:53.14 | rvalles | no idea if it'll work better, agaffney |
| 01:53.16 | rvalles | but in any case |
| 01:53.32 | rvalles | it's terribly slow compared to when it was unstable and directly ext2 |
| 01:54.56 | agaffney | really? I didn't notice much of a difference |
| 01:55.07 | agaffney | but then, I never got completely booted any of the other ways :P |
| 01:56.18 | rvalles | so, I guess I got farther than u |
| 01:56.25 | rvalles | ... with direct ext3. |
| 01:56.53 | agaffney | well, it acted different each time |
| 01:56.59 | agaffney | it actually did get to opie once |
| 01:57.11 | agaffney | but then it locked up after a few minutes |
| 01:57.14 | agaffney | and didn't boot back into it |
| 01:58.09 | rvalles | btw |
| 01:58.14 | rvalles | does powering down |
| 01:58.16 | rvalles | rebooting |
| 01:58.23 | rvalles | and this sort of stuff work properly for you on your collie? |
| 01:58.40 | agaffney | yes |
| 01:59.11 | rvalles | I've had strange issues |
| 01:59.12 | rvalles | but well |
| 01:59.18 | rvalles | I guess they're all correlated |
| 01:59.27 | rvalles | to the ext2/3 on SD drama I've lived through |
| 02:00.15 | rvalles | oh, just noticed I can rotate the desktop |
| 02:00.16 | rvalles | pretty cool |
| 02:09.26 | rvalles | well |
| 02:09.36 | rvalles | I think I'll tell the zaurus to suspend |
| 02:09.42 | rvalles | and leave it on the base |
| 02:09.45 | rvalles | while I go to sleep |
| 02:09.58 | rvalles | it's pretty late, been awake about 24h already |
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| 06:14.26 | Kevin` | hi peoples |
| 06:14.57 | Kevin` | if anyone's here, i'd like help with a problem with wifi |
| 06:25.28 | daurnimator | heh |
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| 08:39.04 | webmind | I don't anyone could help without a question |
| 08:39.47 | Kevin` | ohi |
| 08:40.56 | webmind | +think |
| 08:41.33 | Kevin` | http://kwzs.be/~kevin/dmesg.txt - error at the bottom |
| 08:49.07 | teledyn | are there any phone apps? |
| 08:49.22 | teledyn | i just read about this project: http://www.ddj.com/dept/opensource/197004438?cid=RSSfeed_DDJ_All |
| 08:50.24 | Kevin` | hmm, I thought i've already seen linux based phones |
| 08:50.46 | Kevin` | maybe not completely open source |
| 08:54.49 | Kevin` | nobody want to help with my wifi? |
| 08:55.07 | Kevin` | I tried it in a laptop and it crashed the computer, so I hope it's not broken |
| 08:58.08 | webmind | I'd consider broken as a calid option |
| 08:58.12 | webmind | valid |
| 08:58.50 | Kevin` | i'm backing it up now to put a release OZ version on it that was working with the card before |
| 08:58.57 | webmind | ow |
| 08:59.01 | webmind | I meant the card |
| 08:59.04 | Kevin` | I know |
| 08:59.08 | webmind | k |
| 08:59.33 | Kevin` | if the card doesn't work with that i'll know it's changed, and probably broken then |
| 09:06.46 | teledyn | Kevin`: this would conceivable be able to run on a zaurus |
| 09:06.53 | Kevin` | ? |
| 09:07.03 | Kevin` | what would be |
| 09:07.17 | teledyn | http://gpephone.linuxtogo.org/ |
| 09:07.41 | Kevin` | heh, if I had a cellular interface of some sort :) |
| 09:07.48 | teledyn | oh |
| 09:08.15 | teledyn | isn't there any webphone app like skype available? |
| 09:08.28 | Kevin` | never looked into it |
| 09:09.05 | Kevin` | skype wouldn't be my first choice though, as they are proprietary and proud of it |
| 09:09.42 | webmind | teledyn, like skype, yes, skype, no |
| 09:09.51 | teledyn | mine either, except you can call any land line from it |
| 09:10.06 | webmind | atleast I've used kphone on my Z |
| 09:10.26 | teledyn | webmind: really? but you can only call other kphone instances? |
| 09:10.27 | webmind | teledyn, skype isn't the first who provides that |
| 09:10.38 | webmind | teledyn, without a voip account, yes |
| 09:10.47 | webmind | but there are a load of voip-landline providers |
| 09:10.57 | webmind | unlike with skype, you actually have choice |
| 09:10.58 | teledyn | wow i didn't know that |
| 09:11.09 | webmind | www.voip-info.org |
| 09:11.24 | teledyn | i was just gonna ask you how to find providers! thanks. |
| 09:11.42 | webmind | that's the thing that skype has, marketing |
| 09:12.47 | webmind | babble.net was afaik a cheap one |
| 09:25.38 | teledyn | it works with kphone? want to be sure before I "top up" for £5 |
| 09:26.22 | teledyn | i love british colloquialisms btw. |
| 09:28.32 | webmind | teledyn, kphone uses sip, if babble uses sip |
| 09:28.35 | webmind | it should work |
| 09:28.49 | webmind | no idea on the quality though, or if the Z works well enough |
| 09:28.57 | webmind | I recall having crappy links in 2004 |
| 09:29.09 | webmind | but that was over an overcrowded wifi |
| 09:29.15 | teledyn | well i don't have long distance anyhow and use skype, so this would be useful even if not on the Z |
| 09:29.25 | webmind | k |
| 09:29.44 | teledyn | its definitely worth the £5 to check it out |
| 09:30.35 | teledyn | it funny how there's all this stuff with device form factors. will the future phone look like a phone, or a PDA, or what? i think the PDA will win |
| 09:31.19 | teledyn | if you are going to lug around a piece of gear, it might was well be useful like a Z |
| 09:38.45 | webmind | the mda's seem to be winning :) |
| 09:38.52 | webmind | which is, yeah, pda sized |
| 09:39.32 | webmind | you want a keyboard on such a device anyway |
| 09:40.11 | teledyn | yes |
| 10:07.56 | Kevin` | hmm, the card initialized properly in 0.5.4.1 or whatever the current is, so it must be a problem with the newer driver or my use of it |
| 10:08.15 | Kevin` | writing a filesystem to CF takes too long :( |
| 10:20.12 | rvalles | damn, it didn't even show me a list and then ask me if I wanted to continue |
| 10:20.25 | rvalles | I suppose I need some flag for that |
| 10:20.40 | rvalles | lots of packages... good. |
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| 10:51.15 | rvalles | well, I've got OZ on SD working fine |
| 10:51.35 | rvalles | and I've installed some useful stuff like coreutils, binutils, procps, linux-utils and such |
| 10:51.40 | rvalles | gnu screen :) |
| 10:51.57 | rvalles | I should get a webbrowser |
| 10:52.07 | rvalles | which (free) webbrowser do you use? :) |
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| 11:14.20 | rvalles | damnit all |
| 11:14.35 | rvalles | it crashed, then after rebooting, stuff apparrently got corrupted |
| 11:22.54 | Prof_Frink | rvalles: I have Dillo |
| 11:23.47 | rvalles | Prof_Frink: in opie? |
| 11:23.53 | rvalles | wouldn't dillo need X? |
| 11:24.28 | rvalles | I think I'll pass on doing my own root-on-SD |
| 11:24.42 | rvalles | and just get one of the provided ones |
| 11:24.48 | rvalles | and put it on the boot-images thingy |
| 11:25.05 | rvalles | and install packages on the rest of the SD |
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| 11:31.10 | Prof_Frink | Oh, I use GPE |
| 11:47.07 | daurnimator | i use firefox |
| 12:27.23 | rvalles | ow |
| 12:27.28 | rvalles | package manager |
| 12:27.36 | rvalles | of GPE, failis |
| 12:27.38 | rvalles | *fails |
| 12:27.50 | rvalles | 3.5.4's, says wget doesn't support some option |
| 12:27.59 | rvalles | the --pasive-ftp one |
| 12:28.07 | rvalles | horror, it needs wget and comes with busybox's |
| 12:31.32 | rvalles | oh, the real error is just a hostname lookup error |
| 13:00.15 | rvalles | with the GPE root image, how do I tell the package manager to install things to the SD and not root? |
| 13:14.39 | rvalles | damn it. |
| 13:15.02 | rvalles | damnit damnit :/ |
| 13:15.42 | rvalles | I can install things in the sd with -dest sd |
| 13:15.59 | rvalles | but... then they won't work because of not being in the default path |
| 13:16.06 | rvalles | this is sorta depressing |
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| 13:24.33 | mimecar | hi |
| 13:26.22 | rvalles | morning, mimecar |
| 13:26.29 | mimecar | hi rvalles |
| 13:26.44 | mimecar | had you luck yesterday ? |
| 13:26.59 | rvalles | well, I've been advancing |
| 13:27.05 | rvalles | but things aren't yet at the point of happyness |
| 13:30.42 | mimecar | what's the statate actually ? |
| 13:31.12 | rvalles | GPE in a loopback file covering the almost entire sd, which is vfat |
| 13:31.26 | rvalles | direct ext2 on sd means happy corruption |
| 13:31.27 | mimecar | I have problems with gpe |
| 13:31.33 | rvalles | according to both my experience |
| 13:31.41 | rvalles | and somebody from this channels' |
| 13:32.08 | mimecar | I get a corrupted system with gpe + loopfile on sd |
| 13:32.16 | mimecar | sd use vfat |
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| 14:08.08 | rvalles | mimecar: does vnc work for you? |
| 14:08.17 | rvalles | I can connect, see the screen, even type, alright |
| 14:08.21 | rvalles | but mouse doesn't seem to work |
| 14:08.34 | rvalles | I click around, the events don't seem to be sent |
| 14:08.41 | mimecar | the first time you launch the program |
| 14:08.48 | mimecar | you must calibrate the screen |
| 14:08.53 | rvalles | eek. |
| 14:08.54 | rvalles | ok |
| 14:08.57 | mimecar | presing on the corners of the windows |
| 14:11.34 | rvalles | No. |
| 14:11.38 | rvalles | that doesn't seem to be the problem |
| 14:11.46 | rvalles | I enter the calibration tool |
| 14:11.55 | rvalles | and even tho I click |
| 14:11.57 | rvalles | nothing happens |
| 14:12.20 | mimecar | that's the first time you launch the program |
| 14:14.57 | rvalles | ? |
| 14:15.14 | mimecar | open the console |
| 14:15.18 | rvalles | I've stopped and started the fbvncserver and connected and siconected many times |
| 14:15.24 | mimecar | and remove the configuration file of vnc |
| 14:15.45 | mimecar | I think you must calibrate the screen the first time |
| 14:15.49 | mimecar | if you want use the mouse |
| 14:15.56 | mimecar | but I don't remember is calibration |
| 14:16.02 | mimecar | is on PC or zaurus side |
| 14:17.00 | rvalles | another thing is that sometimes it crashes on reboot |
| 14:17.05 | rvalles | crashes as in Rebooting... |
| 14:17.10 | rvalles | and then the screen goes _crazy_ |
| 14:17.19 | mimecar | have you update opie ? |
| 14:17.31 | rvalles | and even going on "replace battery" mode doesn't help |
| 14:17.34 | rvalles | so I end up |
| 14:17.43 | rvalles | having to press the reset button |
| 14:19.36 | rvalles | mimecar: I'm using the GPE in a loopback file covering the almost entire sd, which is vfat |
| 14:19.41 | rvalles | mimecar: as I told you before |
| 14:19.47 | mimecar | ok |
| 14:19.56 | mimecar | do gpe work after reboot ? |
| 14:19.59 | rvalles | yes |
| 14:20.09 | rvalles | boots fine after reset |
| 14:20.14 | mimecar | if I run gpe and reset |
| 14:20.25 | mimecar | some files be corrupted and icons doesn't appear |
| 14:20.37 | mimecar | but I have that icons on the loopfile |
| 14:23.15 | rvalles | Illegal instruction |
| 14:23.15 | rvalles | rvalles@collie:~$ |
| 14:23.17 | rvalles | eek |
| 14:23.25 | rvalles | somebody didn't compile fbvncserver too well. |
| 14:23.51 | rvalles | (or some bug made execution land somewhere not good) |
| 14:24.18 | mimecar | you can get the source and recompile it |
| 14:24.51 | rvalles | I'm always pressured when it comes to ram |
| 14:24.57 | rvalles | should I make a swap partition or something? |
| 14:25.15 | mimecar | I think you have a swap on the sd now |
| 14:25.19 | mimecar | check the mount command |
| 14:25.21 | rvalles | or a swapfile inside the ext2 inside the vfat file inside the sd |
| 14:25.33 | rvalles | mount won't tell me |
| 14:25.35 | rvalles | free would |
| 14:25.39 | rvalles | but free says there's no swap |
| 14:25.40 | rvalles | so... |
| 14:26.05 | mimecar | mount command show the swap partition |
| 14:26.26 | rvalles | root@collie:/# dd if=/dev/zero of=swap bs=1M count=128 |
| 14:26.50 | rvalles | mimecar: swap partitions aren't mounted or handled with mount. |
| 14:26.58 | rvalles | mimecar: but swapon/swapoff |
| 14:27.12 | mimecar | are you sure ? |
| 14:27.16 | rvalles | 100% |
| 14:27.22 | mimecar | ok |
| 14:28.00 | rvalles | in any case |
| 14:28.06 | rvalles | my poor collie is busy writting to the sd |
| 14:28.20 | rvalles | things got frozen thanks to that dd |
| 14:31.21 | rvalles | root@collie:/# mkswap -v1 swap |
| 14:31.21 | rvalles | Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 134213632 bytes |
| 14:31.21 | rvalles | root@collie:/# mv swap swap.v1 |
| 14:31.28 | rvalles | root@collie:/# swapon swap.v1 |
| 14:31.28 | rvalles | root@collie:/# free |
| 14:31.28 | rvalles | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.28 | rvalles | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.28 | rvalles | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.30 | rvalles | Total: 193476 60968 132508 |
| 14:31.33 | rvalles | I feel guilty somehow |
| 14:31.55 | rvalles | but now I won't run out of ram |
| 14:58.29 | rvalles | ok |
| 14:58.34 | rvalles | things are working fine |
| 14:58.34 | rvalles | :) |
| 14:58.43 | rvalles | now I have a problem to solve |
| 14:58.45 | rvalles | I need... feeds! |
| 14:59.05 | rvalles | apparently, the default feeds have a lot of programs (even dosbox, gimp...) |
| 14:59.08 | rvalles | but no games :( |
| 14:59.37 | mimecar | there're some games |
| 14:59.42 | mimecar | but the're very simple |
| 15:00.23 | mimecar | there's a package name gpe-games or similar with some games |
| 15:00.35 | mimecar | you have abuse game, but I don't know if you can run it on collie |
| 15:00.36 | rvalles | quake1 - 0.0.1-r2 - Quake 1 |
| 15:00.40 | rvalles | there's quake |
| 15:00.47 | rvalles | amazing |
| 15:00.48 | rvalles | but |
| 15:01.03 | mimecar | quake con Cx00 models works |
| 15:01.07 | mimecar | but on collie... |
| 15:03.14 | rvalles | http://ydirson.free.fr/soft/wesnoth/oe/feed/ |
| 15:03.19 | rvalles | here I found wesnoth |
| 15:03.25 | rvalles | with is what I want the most atm |
| 15:03.30 | rvalles | but it's a really old one :/ |
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| 17:37.03 | rvalles | Connecting to divbyzero.homelinux.net[74.121.39.197]:8080... |
| 17:37.05 | rvalles | damn |
| 17:37.12 | rvalles | that mirror isn't working |
| 17:37.15 | rvalles | can someone remove it? |
| 17:37.25 | rvalles | it stops me every damn time |
| 17:37.26 | mimecar | where's that mirror ? |
| 17:38.38 | rvalles | I have no idea/I don't care |
| 17:38.54 | rvalles | but the balancer at openzaurus redirects to it at times |
| 17:38.55 | mimecar | all the feeds are on /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 17:38.57 | rvalles | and it isn't working |
| 17:39.20 | rvalles | yes, they are, but the OZ feeds redirect the user to a mirror |
| 17:39.33 | rvalles | I assume load balancing |
| 18:39.25 | rvalles | argh, damnit |
| 18:39.29 | rvalles | nothing goes at it should |
| 18:39.48 | rvalles | task-opie-base depends on bluez-utils-nodbus for some reason |
| 18:40.12 | rvalles | but since I have created my root from a GPE tarball, I have bluez-utils-dbus |
| 18:40.21 | rvalles | and so, they cannot be installed at the same time |
| 18:40.23 | rvalles | depressing. |
| 18:47.37 | rvalles | funniest part is that I don't even have BT, so I don't give a damn |
| 18:48.11 | rvalles | I guess that means bye to the main "task" package for either opie or gpe and hello to doing more things by hand |
| 18:59.51 | rvalles | Connecting to divbyzero.homelinux.net[74.121.39.197]:8080... |
| 18:59.54 | rvalles | damnit, every now and then |
| 19:00.08 | rvalles | I cannot install anything big that I end up which this mirror that doesn't work... |
| 19:12.57 | rvalles | well, forced one of the mirrors, one that is working |
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| 21:46.27 | mimecar | hi |
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| 22:23.39 | mimecar | join #gpe |
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| 23:18.23 | rvalles | is there any tool for the terminal/shell to control the backlight of a collie? Without having to start opie or gpe |
| 23:18.46 | mimecar | I think you must use opie or gpe applet |
| 23:18.56 | mimecar | on console I don't know any program |
| 23:21.30 | rvalles | what a pain :/ |
| 23:21.47 | rvalles | mimecar: I have stuff almost working as I want |
| 23:22.04 | mimecar | that sounds good |
| 23:22.12 | rvalles | figured out the calendar button works as both control and alt |
| 23:22.18 | rvalles | in the linux console |
| 23:22.34 | mimecar | are you with gpe, aren't you ? |
| 23:22.38 | rvalles | so I can switch VTs painlessy |
| 23:22.44 | rvalles | mimecar: I have both GPE and opie |
| 23:22.55 | rvalles | and I can have them running at the same time ;) |
| 23:23.04 | rvalles | but I set it up so that neither starts up on boot |
| 23:23.15 | rvalles | and I have to login in the framebuffer linux console |
| 23:23.25 | mimecar | then, you haven't problems with reboot on gpe ? |
| 23:23.37 | mimecar | launch gpe and open some app |
| 23:23.44 | mimecar | then, move it to background |
| 23:23.51 | mimecar | and reboot with the reset button |
| 23:24.50 | rvalles | no, I have no problem, mimecar |
| 23:25.03 | rvalles | but I won't reboot with the reset button |
| 23:25.05 | mimecar | ok |
| 23:25.07 | rvalles | that's suicide ;) |
| 23:25.18 | rvalles | if IO is being done and one reboots |
| 23:25.23 | rvalles | is like asking for corruption |
| 23:25.26 | mimecar | yes |
| 23:25.44 | rvalles | so far I haven't had to reboot like that |
| 23:25.47 | mimecar | but it's the same as one system hang |
| 23:25.49 | rvalles | I also made two partitions |
| 23:25.52 | rvalles | in the SD |
| 23:26.26 | rvalles | first is the vfat containing the (as big as the vfat) ext2 root |
| 23:26.27 | rvalles | second is a 128MB swap partition |
| 23:26.28 | rvalles | which gets set up on boot :) |
| 23:26.51 | mimecar | rvalles: what do you think about this summary: http://www.innerzaurus.com/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=12&id=120&Itemid=172 |
| 23:27.05 | mimecar | it's an article I'm working |
| 23:27.24 | rvalles | interesting |
| 23:27.30 | rvalles | too bad not for collie |
| 23:27.36 | mimecar | temporally |
| 23:27.52 | rvalles | I might have to put myself into making SD work on 2.6 |
| 23:27.55 | mimecar | if you don't want sd card working, you can use it |
| 23:28.04 | mimecar | there're some projects |
| 23:28.11 | mimecar | check OESF forums to see it |
| 23:28.12 | rvalles | who is working on it? any idea? |
| 23:28.14 | rvalles | ok |
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| 23:31.07 | rvalles | mimecar: btw |
| 23:31.12 | rvalles | mimecar: you can see me at jabber, but I can't see you |
| 23:31.22 | rvalles | mimecar: please resubscribe or whatever |
| 23:31.47 | Blue89 | do you guys help for pdaxrom? |
| 23:32.04 | Blue89 | (I was redirected here) |
| 23:32.16 | mimecar | I haven't use pdaxrom Blue89 |
| 23:32.39 | Blue89 | I want to flash my c3200 with it, but Iam not sure which version to download |
| 23:32.46 | Blue89 | ah |
| 23:32.59 | mimecar | have you ask on the #pdaxrom channel ? |
| 23:33.24 | Blue89 | I don't think that exists, I;m pretty sure I tried to join it once before. I will try again |
| 23:33.46 | Blue89 | nope, empty channel |
| 23:34.03 | Blue89 | is it on another network? |
| 23:34.22 | mimecar | no idea, have you search on their website? |
| 23:34.33 | Blue89 | then again, you guys ar eeasier to find, I should at least consider using OZ instead |
| 23:34.48 | Blue89 | does OZ have X? |
| 23:34.50 | mimecar | came to the dark side :) |
| 23:34.56 | mimecar | yes, with the gpe GUI |
| 23:34.57 | Blue89 | lol |
| 23:39.05 | Blue89 | are there feeds for OZ that carry other DEs/WMs/etc? |
| 23:39.32 | mimecar | no idea |
| 23:39.34 | Blue89 | so ex. if I like fluxbox or enlightenment I can use that instead |
| 23:40.06 | Blue89 | they have that for pdaxrom I beleive, but tthe feeds are probably the same anyway |
| 23:40.39 | Blue89 | does OZ come with automake so I can rebuild whatever it is missing? |
| 23:40.57 | mimecar | you have bitbake to build programs |
| 23:41.08 | Blue89 | never heard of it... |
| 23:43.10 | rvalles | and, oh, btw |
| 23:43.24 | rvalles | SysRq |
| 23:43.56 | rvalles | is that possible with collie OZ' kernel? |
| 23:44.19 | mimecar | what ? |
| 23:44.26 | rvalles | I mean, maybe someone patched it to make it so that SysRq can be made by pressing a combination of keys |
| 23:44.41 | mimecar | I don't know what's sysrq |
| 23:44.51 | rvalles | mimecar: sysrq is a interrupt-level emergency thingy from the kernel |
| 23:44.58 | mimecar | ok |
| 23:45.26 | rvalles | mimecar: allowing, using a key combo (altgr+printscreen+whatever in a PC) to do many functions |
| 23:45.31 | Blue89 | bitbake sounds useful, I was wandering if I could get portage working on it anyway |
| 23:45.53 | rvalles | "whatever" can be for example S, to force sync all disks, mimecar |
| 23:46.03 | rvalles | U to force unmount or remount readonly all filesystems |
| 23:46.08 | rvalles | B to reboot |
| 23:46.32 | rvalles | mimecar: quite convenient in case of some crash where you cannot control the kernel otherwise |
| 23:47.02 | rvalles | or those cases you would be able to solve via ssh but since you're, say, on the train, you cannot solve and you'd press reset. |
| 23:48.27 | rvalles | mimecar: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/KernelInfo26#SysRq |
| 23:48.36 | rvalles | seems it's this easy, with 2.6 kernels |