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| 00:06.44 | Blue89 | I was reading the Spitz install guide, and I am not sure about something... does this guid assume that I am already using uboot? |
| 00:06.52 | Blue89 | guide* |
| 00:07.14 | Blue89 | I am not, and I figured if I am supposed to be and I don't it will be bricked |
| 00:07.39 | mimecar | I have a collie model, and installation is diferent |
| 00:07.42 | Blue89 | (probably not, but worth checking) |
| 00:07.44 | mimecar | I can't help you |
| 00:08.04 | Kevin` | I have a spitz-like device, what's up? |
| 00:08.32 | Blue89 | does the install guide assume that I am already using uboot? |
| 00:08.41 | Kevin` | Blue89 the guide assumes you are NOT using uboot, afaik. and I recommend you keep it that way, as the built in updater is rather easy to use and works |
| 00:08.55 | Blue89 | good |
| 00:09.09 | Kevin` | last I saw u-boot didn't have a UI accessible from the device, right? |
| 00:09.19 | Blue89 | I thought since pdaxrom requires uboot that this might too |
| 00:09.30 | Kevin` | pdaxrom uses it yes, iirc |
| 00:09.34 | Blue89 | (but it wasn't mentioned on the wiki) |
| 00:09.38 | Kevin` | this doesn't |
| 00:09.51 | Kevin` | your installing root to a hard drive, yes? |
| 00:11.08 | Blue89 | yes, afaik |
| 00:11.08 | Kevin` | the only thing openzaurus keeps in flash on this platform is the kernel image |
| 00:11.08 | Kevin` | i'm actually running debian etch on mine now.. |
| 00:11.08 | Blue89 | ah |
| 00:11.38 | Kevin` | diff kexec-tools-dbg_1.101-r0_armv5te.ipk kexec-tools_1.101-r0_armv5te.ipk ? |
| 00:12.45 | Blue89 | Kevin`, "For 2.6 kernels we ignore the flash entirely and install/boot directly from the microdrive." |
| 00:13.06 | Kevin` | well that's not completely true, the kernel is still in the flash :) |
| 00:13.14 | Blue89 | ah |
| 00:13.33 | Kevin` | I intend to change that shortly by making a kexec based bootloader.. |
| 00:14.06 | Kevin` | assuming kexec actually works |
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| 12:19.57 | mimecar | hi |
| 12:52.32 | rvalles | jamvm jikes kaffe-gtk |
| 12:52.57 | rvalles | which one/s should I get? I want java in both opie and GPE |
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| 13:34.25 | rvalles | rvalles@collie:~$ mplayer |
| 13:34.25 | rvalles | mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmad.so.0: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Error 14 |
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| 13:49.27 | hrw | CoreDump|home: did you read last oz-devel mails? |
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| 14:25.02 | rvalles | what package is "file" in? |
| 14:25.19 | hrw | file |
| 14:26.24 | rvalles | fget-doc - 1.3.3-r0 - fget is a commandline tool for mirroring remote files via FTP. It was designed as an analog to the GNU wget utility. The fget p |
| 14:26.28 | rvalles | file-roller - 2.6.1-r0 - Version 2.6.1-r0 of package file-roller |
| 14:26.29 | rvalles | no file on my package list |
| 14:29.44 | rvalles | so, where's file? |
| 14:29.47 | rvalles | :/ |
| 14:38.25 | hrw | in feeds |
| 14:43.48 | rvalles | oops |
| 14:43.55 | rvalles | I was missing a very important feed |
| 14:43.56 | rvalles | :) |
| 14:45.47 | hrw | ;D |
| 14:46.59 | rvalles | not really |
| 14:47.02 | rvalles | it should be in "base" |
| 14:47.09 | rvalles | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/?action=details&pnm=file |
| 14:47.21 | rvalles | but 3.5.4.1 doesn't have it :? |
| 14:48.15 | rvalles | http://openzaurus.ibtswebhosting.com/3.5.4.1/feed/base/ |
| 14:48.34 | rvalles | it's definitivelly not there |
| 14:48.53 | rvalles | hrw: so, should I have the 3.5.4 feed set too? |
| 14:49.02 | rvalles | feels weird. |
| 14:49.10 | hrw | grab 'file' from 3.5.4 and install |
| 14:50.07 | rvalles | fugly, but doable |
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| 14:50.44 | rvalles | hrw: know anything about my mplayer error? |
| 14:52.01 | rvalles | mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libmad.so.0: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Error 14 |
| 15:03.43 | rvalles | hrw: wow |
| 15:03.54 | rvalles | hrw: my collie is running uae (amiga emulator) |
| 15:11.36 | rvalles | it... works |
| 15:11.38 | rvalles | it's absurd |
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| 16:37.56 | kolla | rvalles: nice, huh? :) |
| 16:38.47 | rvalles | kolla: isn't it? |
| 16:39.01 | kolla | :) |
| 16:39.02 | rvalles | kolla: but the C64 one (frodo) segfaults at start |
| 16:39.03 | rvalles | no idea why |
| 16:39.20 | rvalles | and that one actually had some chance of actually running things at a decent speed. |
| 16:39.40 | rvalles | cool |
| 16:39.46 | rvalles | it plays the sid so happily |
| 16:42.11 | rvalles | so good. |
| 16:43.15 | rvalles | Mike Alsop - Wizardry |
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| 18:54.18 | rvalles | grr |
| 18:54.36 | mimecar | :P |
| 18:54.38 | rvalles | both dgen and frodo (genesis and c64 emulators) segfault at me |
| 18:54.54 | rvalles | just after the video mode setting output text |
| 19:05.09 | sleepless | whats dmesg say |
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| 19:25.29 | rvalles | waitg |
| 19:25.32 | rvalles | I'm gonna boot and try |
| 19:26.18 | rvalles | ... after I finish installing some packages |
| 19:27.30 | mimecar | have you any package without installation ? |
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| 19:38.43 | rvalles | mimecar: I don't understand what you mean |
| 19:39.01 | mimecar | one second |
| 19:44.58 | kolla | 660 seconds and counting... :) |
| 19:46.42 | mimecar | xDD |
| 19:47.38 | rvalles | kolla: yick |
| 19:47.43 | rvalles | kolla: no error |
| 19:47.55 | rvalles | in dmesg, that is, when running snes9x |
| 19:47.59 | rvalles | the game just doesn't start |
| 19:48.20 | rvalles | rom title/info appears in the snes9x window |
| 19:48.31 | rvalles | then blackness, nothing else does ever appear. |
| 19:50.18 | rvalles | root@collie:/media/cf/storage# DISPLAY=192.168.0.5:1 Frodo |
| 19:50.18 | rvalles | Doing slow search for ./Frodo OKButton |
| 19:50.18 | rvalles | Doing slow search for ./Frodo CloseButton |
| 19:50.18 | rvalles | Doing slow search for ./Frodo HelpButton |
| 19:50.32 | rvalles | many times, then |
| 19:50.33 | rvalles | Frodo V4.2 Copyright (C) 1994-1997,2002-2004 Christian Bauer |
| 19:50.34 | rvalles | This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. |
| 19:50.45 | rvalles | then the slow searches many times again |
| 19:51.07 | rvalles | finally Error in startup script: couldn't read file "/usr/bin/Frodo_GUI.tcl": no such file or directory |
| 19:51.10 | rvalles | mdPipe child process returned error |
| 19:51.12 | rvalles | QT_GetMachine: /proc/cpuinfo is Processor : Intel StrongARM-1110 rev 9 (v4l) |
| 19:51.18 | rvalles | ... |
| 19:51.20 | rvalles | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.20 | rvalles | QT_GetRotation: Read spec from '/tmp/qtembedded-root/QtEmbedded-0.spec' |
| 19:51.20 | rvalles | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.20 | rvalles | Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) |
| 19:51.41 | rvalles | the same happens with no display, as it's supposed to work (the zaurus is running opie atm) |
| 19:52.35 | hrw | fix sdl-qpe |
| 19:53.19 | rvalles | easy to say |
| 19:53.53 | hrw | sdl-qpe is crap which no one want to maintain or ix |
| 19:53.56 | hrw | s/ix/fix |
| 19:54.38 | rvalles | horror |
| 19:54.59 | hrw | no one never get it upstream |
| 19:58.00 | rvalles | hrw: how do I know which SDL backends I do have available? |
| 19:58.54 | hrw | opie has only sdl-qpe |
| 19:59.01 | hrw | gpe/x11 has sdl-x11 |
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| 20:00.31 | rvalles | hrw: well, my system has both gpe and opie |
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| 20:36.30 | Blue89 | I need a linux machine to double check my FS is vfat or ext2. brb |
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| 20:46.36 | rvalles | Blue89: isn't your zaurus good enoughg a linux machine? |
| 20:47.28 | Blue89 | LOL I forgot |
| 20:48.21 | Blue89 | oh well, I'm in pentoo now, mitgh as well use the faster one untill the flash is finished |
| 20:48.51 | Blue89 | how do I know if my wifi card will work in OZ? (it worked out of the box in sharp) |
| 20:50.28 | Blue89 | one more stupid question before I go ahead with the flash: does teh rest of the card have to be blank or will a card cluttered with other files do? |
| 20:53.59 | Kevin` | Blue89 clutter is fine |
| 20:55.17 | Blue89 | okay, I am in the root terminal |
| 20:57.52 | Blue89 | ? |
| 20:57.56 | Kevin` | ? |
| 20:58.07 | Blue89 | is it normal that I cannot see / characters in my terminal? |
| 20:58.18 | Kevin` | no |
| 20:58.26 | Blue89 | I do shift + , and I get , |
| 20:58.42 | Kevin` | isn't shift+, /? |
| 20:58.48 | Kevin` | erm, that's what you said |
| 20:58.50 | Kevin` | heh |
| 20:59.08 | Blue89 | I had the same problem with xterm under x/qt but I thought it was an xterm problem |
| 20:59.35 | Kevin` | try loading the keymap from /etc/keymap-2.6 |
| 20:59.36 | Blue89 | you would think the spitz-like device would be designed to recognize it's own keymap... |
| 20:59.45 | Kevin` | well, it did for me.. |
| 21:00.11 | Blue89 | I got the device from geekstuff4u and they messed with some other things too |
| 21:00.31 | Blue89 | the usb hid drivers were not version matched with my kernel for example |
| 21:00.51 | Kevin` | mine came in japanese :) |
| 21:01.07 | Blue89 | how do I load a keymap? I never had to do that before... |
| 21:01.15 | Kevin` | cd .. |
| 21:01.16 | Kevin` | cd .. |
| 21:01.17 | Kevin` | cd etc |
| 21:01.24 | Kevin` | loadkeys keymap-2.6 |
| 21:01.36 | Blue89 | ok |
| 21:02.10 | Kevin` | you are using a release openzaurus install and the keymap is broken? |
| 21:02.25 | Blue89 | "can't cd to etc" I must have to go through home first |
| 21:02.32 | Blue89 | no, I am installing |
| 21:02.42 | Blue89 | still in the root terminal for hdd formatting |
| 21:02.58 | Kevin` | the root terminal from the ROM d+b? |
| 21:03.03 | Blue89 | yes |
| 21:03.12 | Kevin` | that's not good that it's messed up.. |
| 21:03.32 | Kevin` | I suppose you could flash it to the original version if you want |
| 21:03.40 | Blue89 | is it possible that the keys look funny but that they are still functional? |
| 21:03.53 | Kevin` | I doubt it, but try it |
| 21:03.56 | Blue89 | (merely a wierd looking terminal) |
| 21:03.59 | Blue89 | ok |
| 21:04.59 | Kevin` | which device do you have |
| 21:05.16 | Blue89 | SL-C3200 Terrier |
| 21:05.30 | Kevin` | I have the original flash backup I made from mine if you want |
| 21:05.51 | Blue89 | nope, "unable to open ,dev,hda" |
| 21:06.10 | Blue89 | so, I have to flash it just to flash it? |
| 21:06.13 | Blue89 | lol |
| 21:07.19 | Blue89 | I will try this out a while longer first Kevin`, but I know where to find you when that doesn't work :-) |
| 21:07.26 | Kevin` | ya, shift+, works for mine for "/" |
| 21:07.50 | Blue89 | I think it will still work if I can cd into folders one at a time |
| 21:08.19 | Blue89 | but if I make a mistake I can't cd /, I will have to do the d+b thing again... |
| 21:08.39 | Kevin` | cd .. |
| 21:08.55 | Blue89 | "cd .." is that root? |
| 21:09.06 | Kevin` | no, that's the next directory up |
| 21:09.09 | Kevin` | you'd have to do it a few times |
| 21:09.18 | Blue89 | ah cool :-) |
| 21:09.49 | Kevin` | wonder if you could just attach a usb keyboard, which would have a standard keymap |
| 21:10.04 | Blue89 | I don't own one, but I already thought of that |
| 21:10.41 | Kevin` | oh, if you ever try, and your using the proper keymap, "fn" = f3" |
| 21:10.48 | Kevin` | f3 on the usb keyboard |
| 21:11.03 | Blue89 | ah I will remember that |
| 21:13.23 | Blue89 | haha |
| 21:13.39 | Blue89 | I finally gt it to cd into etc and "loadkeys" is not found |
| 21:14.44 | Blue89 | at least I got fdisk hda to work, should be ok now |
| 21:15.46 | Kevin` | http://kwzs.be/zaurus/ - if you want |
| 21:15.58 | Blue89 | that is the original jap image? |
| 21:16.03 | Kevin` | yes |
| 21:16.08 | Kevin` | iirc :) |
| 21:16.24 | Blue89 | I will keep it in mind |
| 21:16.46 | Blue89 | I wander what sharp rom will do if I try to boot it after I blow away the partition table... |
| 21:16.56 | Kevin` | it will be confused |
| 21:17.26 | Blue89 | sparks may fly, let's not try it :-) |
| 21:18.54 | Blue89 | it isn't? that sux |
| 21:19.13 | Blue89 | I hope it isn't messed up in OZ... |
| 21:19.21 | Kevin` | oh it works fine in oz |
| 21:19.30 | Blue89 | sweet |
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| 21:21.16 | Blue89 | will fdisk complain if I pass it a lowercase M for megabytes? |
| 21:21.31 | Blue89 | I figured out what was not mapped correctly before... the shift key |
| 21:22.41 | Blue89 | nevermind, fn+tab aka caps lock works fine |
| 21:24.49 | Blue89 | the point of no return... the dreaded W of DOOM... |
| 21:25.42 | Blue89 | *click* |
| 21:33.22 | Blue89 | okay, it is extracting now, almost time to reboot |
| 21:34.29 | Blue89 | is there supposed to be a flood of tar messages during the reflash? |
| 21:35.46 | Blue89 | I guess something failed, I am getting hundreds of "could not create file" or directory messages |
| 21:37.21 | Blue89 | I think I was supposed to mkfs earlier... |
| 21:37.59 | Kevin` | you didn't try to copy it to ram or something, did you? |
| 21:38.05 | Blue89 | ? |
| 21:38.07 | Kevin` | did you mount the hard drive? |
| 21:38.14 | Kevin` | and go to where it's mounted? |
| 21:38.33 | Blue89 | I used windows to copy the image to the card |
| 21:38.43 | Blue89 | copy->paste |
| 21:39.02 | Blue89 | then I CD'd into /dev |
| 21:39.11 | Kevin` | I mean extracting the tar file. did you mount the hard drive in the zaurus? |
| 21:39.43 | Kevin` | heh why windows, didn't you have gentoo or something? *shrug* |
| 21:40.06 | Blue89 | it's just what I had infront of me at the moment, not like it matters which OS I use to setup the flash |
| 21:40.22 | Blue89 | I didn't do the tar thing, it was automatic |
| 21:40.39 | Kevin` | heh, I forget how the install works |
| 21:40.43 | Kevin` | it's been a while |
| 21:40.56 | Blue89 | is it possible that there was a mkfs missing from the instructions? |
| 21:41.09 | Blue89 | lst I checked you have to do that aftre you fdisk |
| 21:41.20 | Blue89 | but I didn't because it wasn't in the instructions |
| 21:41.27 | Blue89 | (that I saw anyway) |
| 21:41.30 | Kevin` | well, the install procedure could do it itself |
| 21:41.34 | Kevin` | but doing it wouldn't hurt |
| 21:42.08 | Blue89 | ok... so what do I do now? |
| 21:42.26 | Blue89 | I am guessing that the root terminal is gone, along with fdisk |
| 21:42.34 | Kevin` | it should still be ther |
| 21:42.46 | Kevin` | that's on the flash chip |
| 21:42.58 | Blue89 | ... but I just flashed it |
| 21:43.05 | Blue89 | and THEN I got errors |
| 21:43.18 | Kevin` | the installer doesn't overwrite the entire flash, just the kernel image |
| 21:43.25 | Blue89 | ah |
| 21:45.48 | Blue89 | my root terminal is still there |
| 21:46.00 | Kevin` | hmm, I suspect extracting the hard drive image is done from the recovery shell right after the kernel is flashed? |
| 21:46.34 | Blue89 | yes |
| 21:47.16 | Blue89 | I just did the mkfs.ext2 manually, I am going to retry the flash |
| 21:47.16 | Kevin` | I suspect it could fail if that environment was modified |
| 21:47.17 | Kevin` | try that first though :) |
| 21:48.08 | Kevin` | the instructions include making a filesystem on the disk |
| 21:48.27 | Blue89 | only AFTER the flash though |
| 21:48.44 | Kevin` | it wouldn't make sense after the flash |
| 21:48.50 | Kevin` | you'd be erasing the data |
| 21:49.07 | Kevin` | oh I see what it's doing |
| 21:49.08 | Kevin` | meh |
| 21:50.04 | Kevin` | oh, I recommend you give 5872mb to hda1, and the remaining 128mb to hda2, as a swap partition |
| 21:50.08 | Kevin` | just a suggestion :) |
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| 21:50.15 | Blue89 | I forgot to put the SD card back in before I entered maintainance mode. how do I turn it off without changing anything? reset key? |
| 21:50.32 | Kevin` | why don't you just mount it |
| 21:50.44 | Blue89 | no, I am in the menu you use to flash |
| 21:50.59 | Kevin` | ya, reset key I suppose |
| 21:51.04 | Blue89 | ok |
| 21:51.27 | Blue89 | when I switched the battery lock it turned itelf off |
| 21:52.00 | Blue89 | now if it would be that easy to get it booted I would be really impressed... lol |
| 21:52.02 | Kevin` | it helps to leave the case off and the battery lock locked |
| 21:52.07 | Kevin` | so you can still reach the key |
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| 21:55.16 | rvalles | hi rvalles_oz |
| 21:55.40 | Blue89 | no error messages so far, I think it is working this time |
| 21:56.36 | Blue89 | awww... it did it again |
| 21:56.56 | Blue89 | I didn't check the md5sum, that might be a bad image I guess |
| 21:57.24 | Kevin` | could be the recovery environment in flash is messed up ;) |
| 21:57.55 | Blue89 | don't even say that! :-{ |
| 21:58.21 | Blue89 | now back to "kernel panic - no init found" |
| 21:58.31 | Kevin` | well, it would be easy to fix, by putting the correct image there, if that was the problem |
| 21:58.44 | Kevin` | why don't you just extract the contents of the tar file yourself to the disk? |
| 21:59.09 | Blue89 | you are sure that will work? I am game |
| 21:59.25 | Blue89 | as long as I have a working SD driver in root terminal |
| 21:59.46 | Kevin` | do you? |
| 21:59.55 | Blue89 | I am asking you ;-) |
| 21:59.56 | Kevin` | it should have one unless it's broken |
| 22:00.42 | Blue89 | crap... to extract manually implies that I can do a / to tell tar where the image is going... |
| 22:00.55 | Kevin` | hm, might be hard without "/" :/ |
| 22:01.18 | Blue89 | I can only do the cd workaround for one directory at a time |
| 22:02.02 | Kevin` | if I were you i'd make a backup of whatever you have in flash and put the oringal japanese rom there |
| 22:05.03 | *** part/#openzaurus _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 22:05.12 | Blue89 | I don't think the nand terminal can understand vfat |
| 22:05.33 | Blue89 | I have an ext2 card laying around. I will try putting the files on that |
| 22:05.35 | Kevin` | so make it non-vfat |
| 22:05.51 | Kevin` | the nand terminal understands fat only I believe |
| 22:05.54 | Kevin` | not ext2 |
| 22:06.06 | Blue89 | ? |
| 22:06.09 | Blue89 | wierd |
| 22:06.35 | Kevin` | ext2 is a rather complicated filesystem compared to fat |
| 22:06.46 | Kevin` | and the maintenance menu isn't linux based |
| 22:07.16 | Blue89 | it looks like linux to me |
| 22:07.26 | Kevin` | the one you get from D+M |
| 22:07.31 | Kevin` | not the shell |
| 22:07.56 | Blue89 | I mean the d+b one |
| 22:08.11 | Kevin` | that should understand vfat |
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| 22:12.30 | Blue89 | I don't know how to go any further without a / key... |
| 22:13.36 | Kevin` | i'm making a backup of mine in it's current state right now (just to check if the filenames are correct mostly), you can have that if you want, or the one from earlier |
| 22:14.07 | Blue89 | I have an idea |
| 22:14.16 | Blue89 | but it will only work if I have enough ram |
| 22:14.45 | Blue89 | is it possible to cp/mv to the next directory up? |
| 22:14.59 | Kevin` | yes |
| 22:15.14 | Kevin` | oh just fix it, it'll be better in the long run =p |
| 22:19.09 | Blue89 | Kevin`: alright, but only if you ar esure it will work, I am so paranoid of bricking, this is why I was trying to struggle with the image I have |
| 22:19.31 | Kevin` | the diagnostic menu is not stored in the same flash chip as the rest of it |
| 22:20.04 | Kevin` | you'd have to be pretty intent on breaking it, or stupid, to brick it :) |
| 22:22.11 | Blue89 | Kevin`: is your device a c3000? |
| 22:22.27 | Blue89 | er, 3200? |
| 22:22.30 | Kevin` | Blue89 c3200, as I believ you said before? |
| 22:22.40 | Blue89 | just making sure |
| 22:23.03 | Blue89 | 3200 terrier |
| 22:23.04 | Kevin` | still copying the current flash image from my pda over usb, slow.. |
| 22:23.13 | Blue89 | ......... |
| 22:24.02 | Blue89 | Kevin`: thanks a lot for your help, I couldn't have come this far without you :-) |
| 22:26.02 | Kevin` | http://kwzs.be/zaurus/current/ |
| 22:26.56 | Blue89 | I just put that on the SD card and try the flash again, right? |
| 22:27.04 | Kevin` | no, |
| 22:27.25 | Kevin` | put that on a cf or sd (I think..) card, boot with d+m, and do a nand restore |
| 22:28.19 | Kevin` | ya, seems it works from both cf and sd |
| 22:28.27 | Blue89 | is there any difference between OK+on and d+m+on menus? |
| 22:28.33 | Kevin` | yes. |
| 22:29.00 | Kevin` | heh, i'll get a picture |
| 22:29.02 | Kevin` | pictures are fun |
| 22:30.34 | Kevin` | Blue89 http://kwzs.be/~kevin/files/p1010018.jpg |
| 22:30.36 | Blue89 | can I use the same card for both flashes? |
| 22:30.47 | Kevin` | I believe so, if you have space on it |
| 22:31.11 | Kevin` | be sure to uncompress the image btw, I compressed it in gzip to reduce transfer time over the internet |
| 22:31.18 | Blue89 | ok |
| 22:32.42 | Kevin` | I wonder how anyone is able to do a "hdd restore" from that, 8gb cf card? |
| 22:32.51 | Blue89 | lol |
| 22:34.39 | Kevin` | the image in current/ will boot linux 2.6.20, and load root from the hard drive, fyi |
| 22:34.41 | *** join/#openzaurus Laibsc1 (n=Laibsch@p4020-ipbf2103marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 22:34.49 | Kevin` | but all the restore stuff should work properly |
| 22:34.58 | Kevin` | like the / key, =p |
| 22:35.08 | Blue89 | LOL |
| 22:41.37 | Blue89 | to do this flash, does it have to be a fat filesystem? |
| 22:41.52 | Kevin` | yes. |
| 22:42.11 | Kevin` | recommended fat16 |
| 22:43.21 | Blue89 | am I sucking up all of your bandwidth over there? |
| 22:43.31 | Kevin` | dunno, I don't normally watch it |
| 22:43.51 | Kevin` | my modem seems to do qos or something fairly well, so other connections aren't affected |
| 22:44.02 | Blue89 | I might have to d/l again because I don't have much space over here and I have to format the fs that the file is on now |
| 22:44.33 | Kevin` | well I won't stop you |
| 22:44.37 | Kevin` | it's your time ;) |
| 22:45.12 | Blue89 | I thought when you gzipped it you were trying not to transfer large files because of price |
| 22:45.40 | Blue89 | I am not worried about how long it takes, I just want it to work when I am finished ^_^; |
| 22:45.41 | Kevin` | well, yes, but it doesn't matter TOO much |
| 22:45.55 | Kevin` | it doesn't cost me $ to send files |
| 22:46.11 | Blue89 | ah, on some servers it does |
| 22:46.23 | Kevin` | it's my own server, at my house |
| 22:49.23 | Blue89 | I don't have a fat16 format app on this system... haha |
| 22:49.33 | Blue89 | everything that could go wrong did |
| 22:49.43 | Kevin` | fat32 could work too |
| 22:49.55 | Kevin` | dunno |
| 22:50.30 | Kevin` | linux or windows are you running? |
| 22:50.45 | Blue89 | Pentoo (linux) |
| 22:50.54 | Kevin` | mkdosfs -F 16 /dev/whatever1 |
| 22:51.05 | Kevin` | what's pentoo |
| 22:51.23 | Blue89 | a penetration testing disk based on gentoo |
| 22:51.45 | Blue89 | I don't do any hacking on it though, I just like having a mobile system with portage |
| 22:52.11 | Blue89 | hence why I was so quickly sold on using OZ instead of pdaxrom |
| 22:52.28 | Kevin` | in theory you could put gentoo on it |
| 22:52.48 | Blue89 | but that would be WAY more complicated than what I am doing already |
| 22:52.50 | Kevin` | compiling is rather slow though, it took me four hours to compile 2.6.19.2 on the zaurus |
| 22:53.59 | Kevin` | or was it .18 |
| 22:54.01 | Kevin` | whatever |
| 22:58.52 | Blue89 | wow, I didn't know gz was so powerful |
| 22:59.28 | Blue89 | it compressed that image to less than a tenth of it's size |
| 22:59.45 | Kevin` | hmm so it did |
| 23:00.34 | Kevin` | keep in mind, it's a full flash backup, there's probably plenty of blank or repeating space |
| 23:00.54 | Blue89 | maybe |
| 23:03.27 | Kevin` | btw, to get into the maintance menu, hold d+m DURING reboot or when supllying power, by the time you press the on button, it's generally too late |
| 23:04.23 | Blue89 | ok the card is finally ready |
| 23:06.12 | Blue89 | Kevin`: does it matter that I did not put in the SD card yet? do I have to do it again? |
| 23:07.05 | Kevin` | Blue89 I think it checks when you actually select the option |
| 23:07.30 | Blue89 | ok |
| 23:08.15 | Kevin` | btw the touchscreen works at this menu, not that that's usually useful :) |
| 23:08.30 | Blue89 | I noticed, nifty :-) |
| 23:09.14 | Kevin` | page 3, backup/restore |
| 23:10.25 | Blue89 | Is there any chance that firefox ate that backup sine it is supposed to do inline gzipping? (just checking, no error mesages yet) |
| 23:10.42 | Kevin` | I did put the md5sum's up too |
| 23:10.58 | Kevin` | I doubt it would eat it though |
| 23:11.20 | Blue89 | I am already in the d+m, I think I am just going to flash it |
| 23:14.54 | Kevin` | when you reboot you should see a bunch of timestamps then probably "kernel panic, couldn't load init" or whatever |
| 23:15.04 | Kevin` | lines with timestamps* |
| 23:15.40 | Blue89 | it says Restore... OK |
| 23:15.46 | Kevin` | press esc |
| 23:15.49 | Kevin` | and reboot |
| 23:16.27 | *** join/#openzaurus Varoudis (n=varoudis@87.203.199.220) |
| 23:17.51 | Kevin` | what it do? |
| 23:17.53 | Blue89 | you were right, a bunch of timestamps and a no-init panic |
| 23:18.02 | Kevin` | good, worked then |
| 23:18.20 | Blue89 | ^_^; |
| 23:18.26 | Kevin` | now go about installing your OZ (or whatever) root fs |
| 23:19.06 | Kevin` | if you don't overwrite the current kernel, OZ will complain in pretty red text then boot after a minute, so I recommend you do use OZ's kernel for OZ |
| 23:21.18 | Blue89 | I am trying the first flash again, although it will probably complain about not being abl eto write files again |
| 23:21.49 | Blue89 | ah HA |
| 23:22.03 | Blue89 | I could not see it before when the messages rolled by so fast |
| 23:22.26 | Blue89 | I am getting no space left on the device messages X-D |
| 23:23.04 | Kevin` | I recommend you give all space to the root partition except for 128mb for a swap partition |
| 23:25.44 | Blue89 | ... |
| 23:25.53 | Blue89 | my / still doesn't work |
| 23:26.14 | Kevin` | rather odd now, as your using the same thing as me |
| 23:26.30 | Blue89 | maybe I am using a different silkscreen? |
| 23:26.52 | Kevin` | personally doubt it |
| 23:27.12 | Blue89 | geekstuff4u aslo changed my keyboard cover? I heard they do they but I didn't think they would do it without me asking |
| 23:27.39 | Blue89 | take a picture of your keyboard |
| 23:27.55 | Kevin` | the picture I posted before shows the keyboard |
| 23:28.05 | Kevin` | darkm, but you can see the letters and such |
| 23:29.48 | Kevin` | I suppose I could take a brighter picture if there's something specific your looknig at |
| 23:30.01 | Kevin` | ? |
| 23:30.06 | Blue89 | actually, I got my / to work |
| 23:30.14 | Kevin` | k |
| 23:30.23 | Blue89 | there are two shifts, but only one of them works |
| 23:30.44 | Blue89 | I am just glad one of them works... ^_^; |
| 23:30.45 | Kevin` | I usually use the left one. both seem to work in OZ though |
| 23:31.06 | Kevin` | well, with the OZ keymap, that is |
| 23:31.13 | Kevin` | running debian etch :) |
| 23:33.33 | Blue89 | should I mkswap before or after I flash? |
| 23:33.40 | Kevin` | doesn't matter |
| 23:33.50 | Kevin` | OZ probably won't automatically activate it |
| 23:33.54 | Blue89 | then I will get it over with while I have a terminal |
| 23:33.55 | Kevin` | by default |
| 23:37.01 | Blue89 | I should not have bothered to mkfs at all, it says "now formatting" in the flash program |
| 23:37.05 | Blue89 | lol |
| 23:43.26 | Blue89 | I think it worked, but it is running somehting called altboot now |
| 23:43.41 | Kevin` | that's normal |
| 23:43.49 | Blue89 | I guess this is what happens if you don't take out the sd card after flashing? |
| 23:43.51 | Kevin` | if you didn't press anything it would have started OZ |
| 23:44.02 | Kevin` | just select 1 if you entered the menu |
| 23:44.11 | Blue89 | I did |
| 23:44.26 | Blue89 | it will still let me take out my sd card now, right? |
| 23:44.35 | Kevin` | unless it mounted it |
| 23:44.37 | Blue89 | (not mounted) |
| 23:44.45 | Kevin` | it will automount cards |
| 23:50.17 | Blue89 | ty again |
| 23:50.23 | Kevin` | np |
| 23:51.26 | Blue89 | I don't have modification rights for the wiki afaik. can somebody mod the spitz instructions to ask for more space allocated on hda1? 150mb was not enough |
| 23:51.42 | Blue89 | this is why I had errors before |
| 23:52.05 | Blue89 | I did 5G, not sure what the minimum really was |
| 23:52.23 | Kevin` | what ya using the other 1gb for? :) |
| 23:52.33 | Blue89 | swap |
| 23:52.38 | Kevin` | 1gb swap? |
| 23:52.49 | Kevin` | if you ever have to use all of that you'll be in pain |
| 23:52.59 | Blue89 | I opt for an abundance of swap, sure beats crashing |
| 23:53.22 | Blue89 | it's not like extra swap will hurt, besides limiting tye space I have for files |
| 23:53.29 | Blue89 | the* |
| 23:53.45 | Kevin` | I like to store iso images and such on the pda :) |
| 23:54.03 | Blue89 | lemme guess, epsxe? |
| 23:54.24 | Blue89 | lol |
| 23:54.27 | Kevin` | no, I just take it with me, and that's what I have to collect files with |
| 23:54.37 | Kevin` | -bash: xterm: command not found |
| 23:54.39 | Kevin` | Hmm |
| 23:54.44 | Blue89 | that can't be it, it would be painfully slow |
| 23:55.09 | Blue89 | speaking of games, I need to install some to break in the fresh OS |
| 23:55.15 | Blue89 | :-) |
| 23:55.23 | Kevin` | it's a lot faster then sending them over the internet. 10 minutes or so to upload an image isn't bad |
| 23:56.11 | Kevin` | 0 upgraded, 42 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 23:56.11 | Kevin` | Need to get 20.8MB/22.5MB of archives. |
| 23:56.11 | Kevin` | After unpacking 63.9MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 23:56.14 | Kevin` | yay firefox :/ |
| 23:57.08 | Kevin` | I just want to see how much ram it uses, haven't gotten the toucscreen working nicely yet |
| 23:59.44 | Blue89 | how do i tell my wifi card to go find an open network? |
