| 00:00.01 | Kevin` | iwconfig wlan0 essid any |
| 00:00.03 | Kevin` | ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 00:00.05 | Kevin` | I believe |
| 00:00.06 | Blue89 | it is blinking, I know the driver loaded :-) |
| 00:00.09 | Kevin` | I never do this |
| 00:41.13 | Blue89 | I think it is using the pdaxrom feed now |
| 00:41.54 | Blue89 | the whole reason I flashed it is because I want to install bzflag and a couple other things that are on the pdaxrom feed |
| 01:02.33 | Blue89 | abiword installed, but bzflag didn't. I better go find an openzaurus feed |
| 01:03.16 | Kevin` | debian-arm:~# apt-cache search bzflag |
| 01:03.17 | Kevin` | bzflag - a 3D first person tank battle game |
| 01:03.18 | Kevin` | =p |
| 01:06.58 | Kevin` | hmm |
| 01:07.03 | Kevin` | OE has a package for bzflag |
| 01:07.15 | Kevin` | i'd think it would be in the repository |
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| 01:19.00 | shoR7y | does anyone know how to get suspend working on poodle with 3.5.4.2-rc2 gpe? |
| 01:19.44 | shoR7y | it works with the opie image, just not gpe |
| 01:21.38 | shoR7y | well, it kinda works, it keeps randomly waking up |
| 01:24.29 | shoR7y | nevermind I found the but |
| 01:24.33 | shoR7y | *bug |
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| 02:44.48 | Blue89 | bzflag failed to install again, this time from the openzaurus feed. do I need to install something specific to make opengl apps work on the zaurus? |
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| 05:20.40 | darmou | Is it true zaurus no longer manufactured even in Japan? |
| 05:21.03 | AzzIzzA | end of feb i think is when they shut down production |
| 05:21.13 | AzzIzzA | or its when the last shipment goes out or something |
| 05:25.09 | darmou | oh no:( I guess it's only Nokia keeping the linux pda thing alive. |
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| 06:28.31 | daurnimator | ouchy |
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| 14:35.13 | SuN | What |
| 14:35.15 | SuN | Meh |
| 14:35.19 | SuN | I'll try again :) |
| 14:35.41 | SuN | What's a fair price for a used SLC-860 nowadays (like new condition)? |
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| 15:59.35 | hvontres|poodle | ~seen CoreDump|home |
| 15:59.38 | ibot | coredump|home <n=mhentges@hentges.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 9h 58m 14s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
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| 17:00.11 | Blue89 | when I run dgen I get SDL parachute deployed every time. is there something wrong with SDL on terrier and/or spitz? |
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| 17:15.47 | Blue89 | that was wierd, my screen went blank... I am sorry, did you answer me earlier? |
| 17:29.15 | Blue89 | I can7t see again, I tried pressing all the buttons and my screen wont come back... |
| 17:29.43 | Blue89 | but it is running, and if you can read this th keys are fine |
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| 17:43.08 | Blue89 | sorry again, I found the problem |
| 17:43.22 | Blue89 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:11.26 | Blue89 | is the task-sdl-base package specific to the opie gui? it is not working in gpe... |
| 18:11.42 | Blue89 | or maybe the problem is just dgen |
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| 18:27.13 | mimecar | hi |
| 18:28.02 | Blue89 | hi |
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| 18:55.26 | flowolf | where can I buy a zaurus? |
| 18:55.39 | flowolf | (I live in Italy) |
| 18:55.44 | mimecar | on trisoft, pulster.. |
| 18:58.12 | flowolf | thank you |
| 18:58.46 | flowolf | wow, they are expensive... °_° |
| 18:59.09 | mimecar | xDD |
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| 20:31.24 | corresponder | hi |
| 20:31.53 | corresponder | is the a howto, which tell me the way to install the oz on a cf or sd card? |
| 20:35.18 | summatusmentis | corresponder: check out the wiki |
| 20:35.26 | summatusmentis | wiki.openzaurus.org |
| 20:35.35 | corresponder | thank you! |
| 20:35.48 | summatusmentis | sure thing |
| 20:37.05 | corresponder | the way, which i use under linux to copy a os is not really working... |
| 20:38.14 | summatusmentis | corresponder: what? |
| 20:38.23 | corresponder | forget it |
| 20:38.25 | corresponder | ;-) |
| 20:38.36 | corresponder | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:41.45 | summatusmentis | corresponder: I'll help, it's not that big of a deal, I just didn't understand what you were saying |
| 20:51.05 | corresponder | *g* |
| 20:51.28 | corresponder | ok, normally you copy the / (root) directory to the device you want to boot from |
| 20:51.52 | corresponder | that does not work, i think in cause of the cf |
| 20:53.59 | corresponder | after that i copied only /opt |
| 20:54.15 | corresponder | after that i made a sym link from the opt to /opt |
| 20:54.20 | corresponder | that does work |
| 20:54.25 | corresponder | but not really good |
| 20:54.26 | corresponder | *g* |
| 20:55.37 | corresponder | now the system fresh installed and clean |
| 20:55.55 | corresponder | i only have 1,3 mb of free space on /dev/mtdblock4 |
| 20:56.05 | corresponder | thats not much... |
| 20:58.26 | summatusmentis | are you on a collie? |
| 20:58.31 | corresponder | jap |
| 20:59.12 | summatusmentis | this is a 5500? |
| 20:59.32 | corresponder | yes |
| 21:00.29 | summatusmentis | and you're trying to use altboot to use it? |
| 21:00.36 | corresponder | yes |
| 21:03.58 | summatusmentis | there's something called a loop-image, which is booting off of an image itself, as compared to flashing |
| 21:06.46 | corresponder | i see |
| 21:09.47 | summatusmentis | I'm not the most experienced in this, but on the OZ website, in the downloads folder, there is an images directory. essentially you just copy the image file into a boot-images directory on the card |
| 21:11.09 | corresponder | ok, i think i have to read the wiki instruction carefully |
| 21:11.20 | corresponder | thank you |
| 21:12.20 | corresponder | there is almost everything i have to know/do |
| 21:12.39 | corresponder | i am normally not handling things with only 1,3mb free |
| 21:12.41 | corresponder | *g* |
| 21:15.59 | summatusmentis | yeah, 1.3Mb won't be useful at all |
| 21:16.13 | summatusmentis | I ended up upgrading from my 5500, because I didn't like the screen |
| 21:16.33 | corresponder | now i have moved opt again, we will see |
| 21:16.51 | corresponder | that means you are not using the maschine nowadays? |
| 21:17.23 | summatusmentis | not for about a month, I just bought a 3200 :-D |
| 21:17.28 | corresponder | *g* |
| 21:17.37 | corresponder | you have to sell the old one! |
| 21:17.42 | corresponder | ;-) |
| 21:17.45 | summatusmentis | why? |
| 21:17.51 | corresponder | lol, i need it |
| 21:17.54 | corresponder | rotfl |
| 21:18.00 | corresponder | not really... |
| 21:18.15 | corresponder | the poor thing is lying around |
| 21:18.19 | summatusmentis | heh, I'm hoping to start working on the 2.6 driver for SD |
| 21:18.33 | corresponder | k |
| 21:20.09 | corresponder | then you like to use the 5500 again? |
| 21:21.42 | corresponder | is it possible to use a swap partition on a collie? |
| 21:21.58 | summatusmentis | I'd like to get the 5500 updated to the 2.6 kernel, so it can continue to be supported |
| 21:22.05 | summatusmentis | corresponder: yes, but not the best idea |
| 21:22.12 | corresponder | why? |
| 21:22.20 | summatusmentis | you can do swap on a card, but it's really bad for the flash cards |
| 21:22.46 | summatusmentis | flash cards have a specific number of reads and writes, before they die |
| 21:22.46 | corresponder | k |
| 21:23.27 | XorA|gone | and at like 5 Euros for a gig card these days, really dont worry about it |
| 21:23.35 | summatusmentis | XorA|gone: really? maybe I'm wrong |
| 21:23.44 | summatusmentis | maybe it's overly hyped |
| 21:23.49 | XorA|gone | summatusmentis: yeah seriously |
| 21:24.24 | XorA|gone | summatusmentis: its one of this things that may happen and may shorten your card life, but the cards are so damn cheap these days I dont bother anymore, and still havent killed one |
| 21:24.41 | summatusmentis | XorA|gone: ok, I stand corrected |
| 21:24.48 | summatusmentis | corresponder: don't listen to me :-D |
| 21:24.59 | corresponder | *g* |
| 21:25.10 | XorA|gone | summatusmentis: technically you are correct though :-) just very few people actually try it |
| 21:25.33 | XorA|gone | summatusmentis: I do know the Javacard TCK does enough writes to flash to kill it :-) |
| 21:25.45 | XorA|gone | summatusmentis: but that didnt wear level the rights |
| 21:26.01 | summatusmentis | mmm... what is that? |
| 21:27.07 | corresponder | hmmm |
| 21:29.02 | corresponder | what is the name of the opie desktop? |
| 21:29.07 | corresponder | i mean the package name |
| 21:29.17 | corresponder | my opie is gone |
| 21:29.19 | corresponder | :-( |
| 21:30.44 | summatusmentis | corresponder: it's gone? what does that mean? |
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| 21:31.09 | corresponder | when i use /etc/init.d/opie start it says opie is not installes |
| 21:31.11 | corresponder | when i use /etc/init.d/opie start it says opie is not installed |
| 21:31.36 | corresponder | the update which i made, killed it |
| 21:31.47 | corresponder | http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Collie/TipsAndTricks |
| 21:33.49 | summatusmentis | what command did you run? |
| 21:34.14 | corresponder | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.25 | summatusmentis | that's the issue, you ran out of room on your / directory |
| 21:35.35 | corresponder | no |
| 21:35.42 | corresponder | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.47 | corresponder | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.56 | corresponder | palye enough |
| 21:36.02 | corresponder | place enough |
| 21:36.17 | corresponder | hmmm |
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| 21:37.38 | summatusmentis | when you download and install the upgrades, it will run out of room. then it aborts, and deletes the packages it downloaded |
| 21:37.49 | corresponder | strange |
| 21:37.59 | corresponder | is used a secon ssh console to look for df |
| 21:38.08 | corresponder | and it was never under 6000kb |
| 21:41.03 | corresponder | is there no opie-dektop or something like that |
| 21:41.05 | corresponder | hmmm |
| 21:41.19 | corresponder | there are much opie-packages |
| 21:41.34 | corresponder | but none like the desktop |
| 21:41.36 | mimecar | you have a rom without gui |
| 21:42.42 | corresponder | hmmm |
| 21:43.02 | mimecar | bootstrap image only has the basic system |
| 21:43.09 | mimecar | without opie or gpe |
| 21:43.14 | corresponder | i had the original oz 354 |
| 21:43.22 | corresponder | after the upgrade it was gone |
| 21:43.44 | summatusmentis | corresponder: you had opie before the upgrade |
| 21:43.48 | corresponder | ok, one flash more |
| 21:43.51 | summatusmentis | right? |
| 21:43.53 | corresponder | yes |
| 21:43.57 | corresponder | you are right |
| 21:43.58 | mimecar | corresponder: have you the system on sd ? |
| 21:44.03 | corresponder | the upgrade deletet it |
| 21:44.15 | corresponder | but why is there no package to install it again? |
| 21:44.26 | mimecar | what program ? |
| 21:44.35 | corresponder | my system ist on /dev/mtdblock4 |
| 21:44.41 | corresponder | opie |
| 21:44.47 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:44.49 | corresponder | ;-) |
| 21:44.55 | mimecar | there's a script move the system to the sd |
| 21:45.12 | mimecar | then, you only need copy one file to computer to get a backup |
| 21:47.08 | corresponder | flashing the machine, again |
| 21:47.10 | corresponder | ;-) |
| 21:47.35 | corresponder | i thin ki do it again like i used it before |
| 21:47.49 | corresponder | moving opt away to sd card |
| 21:47.56 | corresponder | then it will work |
| 21:48.13 | corresponder | after that i stop upgrading and wait for the 2.6 kernel version |
| 21:48.25 | corresponder | ...or i install debian" |
| 21:48.27 | corresponder | *g* |
| 21:49.39 | corresponder | and bout cf cars |
| 21:49.41 | corresponder | and bout cf cards |
| 21:49.52 | corresponder | my linux router has bootet years with such an card... |
| 21:49.58 | corresponder | no problem |
| 21:50.15 | corresponder | the card is working and working |
| 21:51.13 | corresponder | on zaurus i want to use the sd card in cause of the cf cardslot abilities |
| 21:54.25 | corresponder | what do you think is the best directory to move to the sd card? |
| 21:54.36 | mimecar | wifi SD ? |
| 21:54.48 | corresponder | cf wifi |
| 21:54.51 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:55.12 | mimecar | then, what do you want? change the sd mount directory ? |
| 21:55.25 | corresponder | no |
| 21:55.40 | mimecar | I haven't read the full chat |
| 21:55.51 | corresponder | normally i move opt to card an symlink it |
| 21:55.57 | mimecar | ok |
| 21:55.59 | corresponder | what is to say against that? |
| 21:56.10 | mimecar | I move all the system with a script |
| 21:56.18 | corresponder | hmmm |
| 21:56.21 | corresponder | good idea |
| 21:56.21 | mimecar | you break the system on two parts |
| 21:56.37 | corresponder | on a collie 5500? |
| 21:56.38 | mimecar | your method works, but there're anocher options |
| 21:56.39 | mimecar | yes |
| 21:56.47 | corresponder | k |
| 21:56.52 | mimecar | I have a 500 MB more or less to the system |
| 21:56.56 | mimecar | on a collie |
| 21:57.09 | corresponder | what did you move to the card? |
| 21:57.18 | corresponder | everything or somethings= |
| 21:57.20 | corresponder | everything or somethings? |
| 21:57.28 | corresponder | everything or some things? |
| 21:57.29 | corresponder | *g* |
| 21:57.37 | mimecar | when you start system, a boot manager start with it |
| 21:57.43 | corresponder | altboot |
| 21:57.44 | mimecar | and tells you to press a key |
| 21:57.45 | mimecar | yes |
| 21:58.01 | mimecar | the [8] option of altboot lets you use a script to move the system |
| 21:58.07 | corresponder | k |
| 21:58.15 | corresponder | where to get the script? |
| 21:58.23 | mimecar | it's installed on your system |
| 21:58.38 | mimecar | before, you need download the tar.gz file system |
| 21:58.50 | mimecar | on the same directory you download zImage kernels |
| 21:59.00 | mimecar | one of the subdirectory, I don't remember now |
| 21:59.25 | corresponder | k |
| 22:26.13 | corresponder | so, jetzt geht schon wieder alles |
| 22:26.25 | corresponder | oh, sry |
| 22:39.14 | SuN | Kein Problem! |
| 22:41.18 | corresponder | ;-) |
| 22:41.34 | corresponder | after a few minutes, everything is working again |
| 22:41.42 | corresponder | good collie! |
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