| 00:10.51 | Cyorxamp | I have the SD reader and the cradle from a collie (SL-5500)... what other models could use these? (perhaps 5000, 5600?) any thoughts? |
| 00:26.41 | JoeSchmo | anyone know of a way to make g_ether use the same mac address each time? |
| 00:27.33 | JoeSchmo | my router refuses to acknowlege it's hostname because of a different mac, quite annoying |
| 00:32.15 | JoeSchmo | i tried modprobe g_ether host_addr=[mac addr] |
| 00:34.05 | NAbyss_ | JoeSchmo: ifconfig ethN hw xxxxx? |
| 00:34.24 | JoeSchmo | trying not to have todo it that way |
| 00:34.39 | JoeSchmo | i've got everything setup right now so all i have todo is plug in the usb cable and it goes online |
| 00:35.04 | NAbyss_ | JoeSchmo: Does the host_addr thing work at all when modprobing manually? |
| 00:35.30 | JoeSchmo | nope, but it should, i'm looking at the kernel module code right now |
| 00:36.50 | NAbyss_ | JoeSchmo: try host_mac instead of host_addr? |
| 00:36.57 | JoeSchmo | not a valid param |
| 00:37.06 | JoeSchmo | there's host_addr and dev_addr, goona try dev_addr |
| 00:37.17 | NAbyss_ | Hmm |
| 00:37.43 | NAbyss_ | Yeah, dev_addr looks like it |
| 00:37.50 | NAbyss_ | MODULE_PARM_DESC(dev_addr, "Device Ethernet Address"); |
| 00:39.15 | JoeSchmo | that may have done it... i mustof fat fingered it the first time |
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| 00:50.20 | hvontres|home | Cyorxamp: When you say SD reader, are you talking about the daughterboard from inside the Z? |
| 00:50.33 | Cyorxamp | yup |
| 00:52.05 | hvontres|home | Cyorxamp: I think those only work in 5500 or maybe 5000D's. The same goes for the cradle. my 5600 uses a different cradle to fit the biger battery and I think the SD slot is on the main board. |
| 00:52.24 | hvontres|home | Cyorxamp: but I have never opened it so I am not sure :) |
| 00:53.14 | Cyorxamp | right so both should work with 5000D and 5500 then? |
| 00:53.46 | Cyorxamp | because I'm gonna sell them on ebay... i'll say its from a 5500 but that it -may- work with a 5000D |
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| 01:25.32 | hvontres|home | Cyorxamp: The Cradle should work with a 5000 for sure... as far as that sd slot goes your guess is as good as mine |
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| 01:26.25 | Jabapyth | is there an IM client for the zaurus? |
| 01:26.43 | Kevin` | Jabapyth for which protocol? |
| 01:30.12 | Cyorxamp | hvontres|home: what would you say a fair price would be for the daughter board on ebay and the cradle? |
| 01:30.23 | Cyorxamp | i'm having trouble putting figures on them |
| 01:33.01 | hvontres|home | Cyorxamp: No Clue... I got a second cradle for my 5600 for $0.99 + $5.00 handling.. but that was a really lucky buy. :) |
| 01:33.10 | hvontres|home | Plus the guy threw in a free PalmPilot Professional with Cradle :) |
| 01:35.13 | Cyorxamp | hmm, i'm thinking maybe £3 for the SD reader with £2 postage |
| 01:35.39 | Cyorxamp | and the cradle maybe £5 with £3 p&p |
| 01:35.44 | Cyorxamp | and then see if anyone bids higher or not |
| 01:35.51 | Cyorxamp | reasonable you think? |
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| 01:38.40 | hvontres|home | Cyorxamp: sounds good to me :) |
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| 01:40.29 | Jabapyth | i asked this before, but just then my zaurus froze :( Does anyone know of an IM (OSCAR or jabber) client for zaurus? |
| 01:40.39 | agaffney | gaim |
| 01:41.02 | Jabapyth | how big is it? |
| 01:41.12 | agaffney | I know it does AIM (if my memory serves me, that's OSCAR) |
| 01:41.15 | agaffney | dunno |
| 01:41.23 | Jabapyth | and does it work on zaurus? |
| 01:41.41 | agaffney | I wouldn't have suggested it if it didn't |
| 01:41.51 | Jabapyth | yah... |
| 01:41.57 | agaffney | since that was one of the restrictions of your original question :P |
| 01:42.26 | agaffney | I know it *can* do lots of protocols |
| 01:42.32 | agaffney | but I don't know about the package for OZ |
| 01:42.51 | Cyorxamp | gaim simply uses libgaim... this can be updated to whatever you need |
| 01:42.57 | Cyorxamp | jabber and oscar would be no problem |
| 01:43.03 | Jabapyth | thanks |
| 01:43.13 | Jabapyth | quick question: who here is on opie-irc? (i am) |
| 01:43.45 | Cyorxamp | cheers hvontres|home |
| 01:44.35 | agaffney | and get it charged up |
| 01:44.39 | agaffney | I haven't turned it on in months |
| 01:44.45 | agaffney | but it's sitting on my desk |
| 01:45.01 | agaffney | buried under a bunch of paperback novels :P |
| 01:45.27 | Jabapyth | how long is the collie battery supposed to last? (mine seems to die way too quickly) |
| 01:46.17 | agaffney | I think a new one will last 6 hours or so |
| 01:46.24 | agaffney | 3-4 with wifi |
| 01:46.38 | agaffney | mine lasts ~30 minutes with wifi |
| 01:46.42 | agaffney | a little over an hour without |
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| 01:57.30 | Jabapyth | is gaim-dev gaim? or is it developement files and such? |
| 01:57.47 | Jabapyth | (i couldnt find anything just called 'giam' |
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| 02:05.33 | Jabapyth | is there a firefox for zaurus? i found firefox-config, but havnt been able to get anything from it |
| 02:08.24 | kolla | there's a zaurus with enough ram to run firefox? :) |
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| 02:39.14 | darmou | Is there going to be another openzaurus distro or is the next version going to angstrom? |
| 02:39.31 | darmou | There has not been a new newsletter for a while. |
| 02:40.02 | darmou | Disapointing that Zaurus is not being made anymore. Is this another case of a device way before it's time. |
| 02:40.25 | darmou | like the er Newton |
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| 03:18.08 | hvontres|home | darmou: I think hrw is planning on making a 3.5.5 release before swiching to angstrom |
| 03:18.25 | darmou | thanks hvontres|home |
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| 09:07.02 | trucmuch_ | hello |
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| 10:36.02 | trucmuch_ | . |
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| 12:10.24 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 14:21.04 | Jabapyth | i installed g++, but i get an error when compiling 'hello world'. it cant find <iostream>. is there something else i need? |
| 14:22.47 | NAbyss_ | Jabapyth: libstdc++-dev |
| 14:22.59 | Jabapyth | thanks |
| 14:23.10 | Jabapyth | is there anything else i would need? |
| 14:23.25 | NAbyss_ | Not that I can think of off the top of my head |
| 14:24.32 | Jabapyth | i also want to compile gaim...and i have gaim-dev and libgaim-dev. how would i go about it? |
| 14:24.53 | NAbyss_ | Jabapyth: I'd compile it on the host using OE |
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| 14:32.09 | Jabapyth | is it possible to set up a cross-compiler on XP? |
| 14:33.05 | Jabapyth | using cygwin, perhaps? |
| 14:33.46 | NAbyss_ | Jabapyth: It'd be possible.. but painful. Easier to just load vmware w/ a linux image and do it that way |
| 14:34.09 | Jabapyth | o! good idea |
| 14:34.15 | Jabapyth | thanks |
| 14:34.38 | NAbyss_ | np |
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| 15:11.27 | pht_ | use qemu, not vmware :p |
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| 15:37.47 | summatusmentis | is there any way to theme GPE? |
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| 19:38.13 | mimecar | hi |
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| 19:40.39 | YoG | hi, does anybody knows the difference between flite-, flitedyn- and flitedyn16- output in opie-reader? |
| 19:50.56 | pgfeller | YoG: Hi; afaik flite uses the flite binary & the dyn loads & uses the flite.so directly |
| 19:51.36 | pgfeller | YoG: I use flitecmd with great success to listen to my eBooks & experienced some problems with the dyn version on my iPAQ; on Collie it worked stable though |
| 19:52.10 | YoG | pgfeller, thanx... |
| 19:52.39 | YoG | pgfeller, do you use it with opie-reader? |
| 19:52.45 | pgfeller | YoG: ... btw.: both do sound exactly the same (if you use 16bit .so |
| 19:52.51 | pgfeller | YoG: yep |
| 19:53.18 | YoG | pgfeller, can you control it's voice to be more clear? |
| 19:53.46 | pgfeller | YoG: do you use the ones from the feed? |
| 19:53.53 | YoG | pgfeller, yes |
| 19:54.07 | YoG | pgfeller, i tried flitecmd and flitedyn |
| 19:54.10 | pgfeller | YoG: give me a second - if I remember right I did some tewaking |
| 19:55.27 | pgfeller | YoG: there was a low & a high quality voice - & I did symlink an .so - but do not remember exactly ... will have a look @ my device |
| 19:55.46 | YoG | pgfeller, thanx... |
| 19:56.47 | pgfeller | YoG: yep - there is libflite_cmu_us_kal16 & libflite_cmu_us_kal8 ... |
| 19:57.37 | YoG | pgfeller, on the feed there is libflite-cmu-us-kal1 & libflite-cmu-us-kal16-1 |
| 19:57.57 | pgfeller | YoG: I think the 16 is the high quality one |
| 19:58.18 | pgfeller | YoG: I have both on my device ... & now I try to remember how I forced flite to use the 16 one :-) |
| 19:59.04 | YoG | pgfeller, probably the symlink |
| 19:59.23 | pgfeller | YoG: yep ... it was a symlink - but from where to where ;-) |
| 20:01.00 | pgfeller | YoG: well - there is always the other approach: download the static one from http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/flite/packed/flite-1.2/ - this one has 16bit voice compiled in |
| 20:01.25 | YoG | pgfeller, what's this? |
| 20:01.44 | pgfeller | YoG: an statically linked flite for arm cpu |
| 20:02.16 | asteroid | hi |
| 20:02.52 | asteroid | dummy hardware question : are stylus for SL-5500 is special or a "standard" stylus take place in the Z ? |
| 20:06.31 | YoG | pgfeller, thanx, I'll try that... |
| 20:07.25 | pgfeller | YoG: it will at least allow you to listen to the 16bit voice - so you know if the right .so is used ... |
| 20:07.41 | pgfeller | YoG: or you use the 8bit somehow |
| 20:07.58 | pgfeller | YoG: do you listen to eBooks with it? |
| 20:08.13 | YoG | pgfeller, well, i can link flite to the static one and use the 16bit |
| 20:08.28 | YoG | pgfeller, I wish to, yes |
| 20:10.04 | pgfeller | YoG: at the beginning it takes some time to get used to the voice, but then it's very good ... |
| 20:11.03 | pgfeller | YoG: have a look @ http://www.baen.com/library/ for free SF eBooks (Palm/Mobipocket Format Zip works fine) |
| 20:11.28 | YoG | pgfeller, I have another problem with this... sometimes opie reader jumps forward and then I don't see the text being read... |
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| 20:12.26 | YoG | pgfeller, thanx for the link |
| 20:12.54 | pgfeller | YoG: one problem is, that it sends "junks" to the tts engine ... - so it is no smoth scroling; another one might be that it skips some sentences, which has to do with configuration ... |
| 20:13.48 | YoG | pgfeller, did you solve it? |
| 20:14.03 | pgfeller | YoG: against the "jumping" caused by the way it sends the text to tts there's nothing you can do (except teaking the code) .... but the missed sentences it is possible to solve |
| 20:14.48 | pgfeller | YoG: do you miss text? |
| 20:15.58 | YoG | pgfeller, I'm just starting to configure it... |
| 20:18.09 | YoG | pgfeller, it seems that the static flite does not work... I do: flite -t "hello world" and it just make a short noise and stops... |
| 20:20.49 | pgfeller | YoG: ... then we've to go with the dynamic one ... I will upload an "ls -l *flite*" up to ~pastebin - so you can compare it with your configuration (to check if I have modified the links) |
| 20:20.54 | pgfeller | ~pastebin |
| 20:20.59 | ibot | well, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites |
| 20:21.23 | YoG | pgfeller, ok |
| 20:23.38 | pgfeller | YoG: http://pastebin.com/884688 |
| 20:30.14 | YoG | pgfeller, "libflite_cmu_us_kal16.so.1 -> libflite_cmu_us_kal.so.1.2" |
| 20:30.34 | YoG | pgfeller, doesn't that mean that the 16bit points to the regular one? |
| 20:31.12 | |tbb| | hi all |
| 20:31.21 | pgfeller | YoG: as said - I unfortunately do not remember what I did ... just that I did something :-/ |
| 20:31.49 | |tbb| | is it possible to soft power off and on the akita by script? |
| 20:31.49 | pgfeller | YoG: but with this configuration I have the high quality voice |
| 20:32.13 | YoG | ok, I'll check it out, thanx |
| 20:36.30 | YoG | pgfeller, well, "ln libflite_cmu_us_kal16.so.1 libflite_cmu_us_kal.so.1 -s" seems to improve it a little, better check again - because it looks like you'r using the 8bit... |
| 20:38.56 | pgfeller | YoG: nep ... once had the 8bit one ... maybe I just overwrote the 8bit .so with the 16bit one :-), - how big is usr 8bit .so? |
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| 20:47.26 | YoG | the regular is 2.4M and the 16bit is 4.2M |
| 20:51.25 | pgfeller | YoG: ... sorry; it seems as if I'm no big help ;-) ... anyhow; OPIE-Reader with flite is my favorite. Btw. @ http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/Reader you'll find a link on how to interface with zbedic as well |
| 20:51.53 | pgfeller | YoG: I use this for translation, if I do not understand something & to look up things in wikipedia |
| 20:52.28 | YoG | pgfeller, sorry for the dumb question but, what is zbedic? |
| 20:53.14 | pgfeller | YoG: zbedic: an electronic dictionary |
| 20:53.25 | pgfeller | YoG: http://bedic.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 20:54.58 | AlefBet | I have a quick ipkg question. |
| 20:55.36 | AlefBet | Is ipkg like apt, where you can upgrade to a later distro by changing your /etc/ipkg/ files and syncing/upgrading? |
| 20:55.37 | YoG | pgfeller, :-( I could have used a week ago in germany... |
| 20:56.42 | YoG | AlefBet, I think it's prefarable when upgade a distro to install everything form the begining... |
| 20:57.59 | AlefBet | YoG: You mean with ipkg, right? (Since with apt, it's common to upgrade through the sources.list.) |
| 20:58.43 | YoG | AlefBet, is there apt-get in OZ? |
| 20:59.35 | AlefBet | Not to my knowledge. But ipkg seems modeled after apt in debian and ubuntu, so I wondered if the upgradability had been modeled too. |
| 20:59.45 | AlefBet | But I guess not. Thanks anyway. |
| 21:00.12 | YoG | AlefBet, btw, what's with the username? are you from israel? |
| 21:00.15 | CoreDump|home | AlefBet: ipkg upgrade should do what you are looking for |
| 21:00.37 | AlefBet | YoG: No, but I am interested in different alphabets. |
| 21:01.07 | AlefBet | CoreDump|home: Thanks. |
| 21:01.08 | YoG | CoreDump|Home, I thought that you recommend to reinstall with a new distro |
| 21:01.39 | CoreDump|home | YoG: I do. But in theory ipkg upgrade _should_ work fine. |
| 21:02.30 | YoG | CoreDump|Home, right... |
| 21:11.06 | |tbb| | why nobody can tell me if its possible to shutdown the c1000 device automaticly |
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| 21:17.28 | pht_ | is there a way to use shadow passwords in OZ? |
| 21:22.48 | Geniack | why there is always root logging int? |
| 21:22.54 | Geniack | *in |
| 21:23.02 | Geniack | how can i login someone else? |
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| 21:23.08 | mimecar | re |
| 21:23.18 | Geniack | wb ^^ |
| 21:24.05 | YoG | |tbb|, are you using QPE or GPE? |
| 21:27.00 | |tbb| | gpe |
| 21:29.15 | YoG | |tbb|, sorry don't know, in qpe you can set it to suspend after a certain amount of time using the light & power settings... maybe you have something similar in gpe... |
| 21:29.28 | pht_ | Geniack: what environment do you use? |
| 21:29.42 | Geniack | pht_: opie 1.2 |
| 21:29.48 | mimecar | YoG: I think you can do it on qpe |
| 21:29.59 | |tbb| | how to get it back (resume) |
| 21:30.43 | mimecar | do you want reinstall the original rom? |
| 21:31.53 | YoG | mimecar, that's exactly what i said... |
| 21:32.29 | mimecar | you will need a backup of the original rom |
| 21:32.41 | YoG | |tbb| by pressing the home button or the on/off button |
| 21:32.42 | mimecar | but openzaurus is more advance than original rom |
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| 21:33.56 | pht_ | Geniack: if you are brave enough, you can try what i did |
| 21:34.10 | pht_ | http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/OpieNonRoot |
| 21:34.21 | |tbb| | yog i need a automaticly solution |
| 21:34.52 | YoG | |tbb| you want it to wakeup automatically? |
| 21:34.59 | |tbb| | yes |
| 21:35.16 | |tbb| | every 5 minutes |
| 21:36.30 | |tbb| | on and off |
| 21:36.39 | YoG | |tbb| check the sleep command |
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| 21:37.11 | YoG | |tbb| no it's not sleep... just a sec... |
| 21:37.35 | mimecar | opie can sleep the zaurus without problems |
| 21:38.24 | YoG | |tbb| i think suspend is what you look for... |
| 21:39.19 | |tbb| | i found suspend after x minutes, now its just the problem how to wakeup |
| 21:40.19 | YoG | |tbb| iirc you can pass it the amount of minutes to sleep |
| 21:42.54 | |tbb| | havent found something like that |
| 21:42.54 | YoG | |tbb| or maybe was it apm? |
| 21:47.18 | |tbb| | apm --suspend worked now i have to find out how to get it back on |
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| 21:52.24 | YoG | |tbb| well... kopialarm is able to do it... you can set the alarm and the z wakes up... |
| 21:57.06 | YoG | |tbb| you need something like apmsleep, but i haven't seen it in the feeds... |
| 22:02.43 | YoG | |tbb| try digging into apm proxy commands, maybe the answer is there... |
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| 22:09.38 | Jabapyth | how could i use skype on my zaurus? |
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