| 00:00.07 | Thaiger | Or you could just setup a bash alias |
| 00:00.20 | Thaiger | and not mess with ipkg.conf for that |
| 00:00.33 | looz | oh yeah |
| 00:02.18 | looz | which is the different between /etc/profile or /home/root/.profile |
| 00:02.18 | looz | ? |
| 00:02.33 | looz | where is it better to write the alias? |
| 00:02.49 | looz | or do u think is the same? |
| 00:03.27 | Thaiger | I think /etc/profile is for everyone and /home/root/.profile is just for root IIRC |
| 00:03.37 | Blue89 | that sounds right to me |
| 00:03.43 | looz | me too :) |
| 00:03.54 | looz | correct answer :) |
| 00:03.57 | Thaiger | I'd personally write it in /home/root/.profile or .bashrc since you'll want to be root to install packages |
| 00:04.21 | looz | yeah |
| 00:04.51 | looz | works :) |
| 00:05.58 | looz | another question... I have installed opie-wellenreiter, but I didnt see any icon on the screen.. I have to reboot? |
| 00:06.41 | looz | because I have some doubt that everytime I install something that is 'graphics' I have to reboot... or I wrong? |
| 00:07.10 | Thaiger | looz: You shouldn't have to reboot almost ever, you may have to restart opie for certain things though |
| 00:07.20 | looz | in this case> |
| 00:07.21 | looz | ? |
| 00:07.28 | looz | I didnt see any icon |
| 00:09.05 | Thaiger | So try restarting opie |
| 00:09.30 | looz | kill -HUP is good enough ? |
| 00:09.48 | Thaiger | You should be able to go into the settings menu, pick shutdown then hit restart opie button |
| 00:09.51 | Thaiger | or something like that |
| 00:09.56 | Thaiger | its been a while since I've used opie |
| 00:10.08 | looz | is it better gpe? |
| 00:10.34 | looz | this is the first day that I use OZ .. |
| 00:11.00 | Thaiger | I did use opie before, but I switched to gpe, just a matter of preference really |
| 00:11.03 | looz | hvw there is a restart button in setting menu :) |
| 00:11.24 | looz | and now I see wellenreiter :) |
| 00:12.17 | looz | but there is any application that someone have ported to OZ for GPS ? |
| 00:12.59 | looz | I have a GPS CF and I'd like to use with OZ |
| 00:13.05 | Thaiger | I'm not sure, if you're doing it for wardriving I think kismet works |
| 00:13.37 | looz | wellenreiter is for wardriving ... gps just to find some street in my city |
| 00:14.16 | Thaiger | using gps for maps I'm not sure |
| 00:14.17 | looz | but I think wellenreiter is better for OZ instead of kismet.. just this sensation |
| 00:14.41 | Thaiger | I never could get kismet working quite right, I would prefer it if I could though |
| 00:15.11 | Thaiger | Does anyone know of a vnc viewer for gpe on SL-C1000? Fbvnc doesn't seem to work so no debian :( |
| 00:15.12 | looz | Thaiger last question.. about sound... |
| 00:15.30 | Thaiger | Volume right? |
| 00:15.33 | looz | yeah |
| 00:15.38 | Thaiger | IIRC ipkg install opie-mixer |
| 00:15.56 | looz | what does IIRC mean ? |
| 00:16.15 | looz | if I remember correct ? |
| 00:16.18 | Thaiger | yes |
| 00:16.25 | looz | hu |
| 00:17.37 | looz | opie-mixer does exit |
| 00:17.38 | looz | opie-mixer does exist |
| 00:17.46 | Thaiger | ? |
| 00:18.09 | looz | # cat pack.txt | grep opie-mixer |
| 00:18.09 | looz | root@looz:/media/card# |
| 00:18.35 | Thaiger | So no opie-mixer |
| 00:18.42 | looz | so no audio? |
| 00:19.01 | looz | what I have to search? |
| 00:19.08 | Thaiger | try opie-volumeapplet |
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| 00:21.41 | looz | gh something wrong |
| 00:21.50 | Thaiger | Anyone get plucker to work? No matter where I get it when I try to open a file it crashes |
| 00:22.27 | looz | did you receive any message when crash? |
| 00:23.21 | Thaiger | nope just disappears |
| 00:23.41 | looz | dmesg say nothing? |
| 00:23.52 | Thaiger | nope, nothing |
| 00:24.24 | Blue89 | Thiager, I haven't used plucker for a while, but I beleive it is supposed to close |
| 00:24.37 | Blue89 | it executes the file you click on, then closes |
| 00:24.44 | Laibsch | Try starting plucker from the command line. |
| 00:24.53 | Laibsch | Then you get at least the error messages on the console. |
| 00:25.28 | Thaiger | Laibsch: I just did that :) |
| 00:25.45 | Laibsch | no messages? |
| 00:25.48 | Thaiger | glibc detected gpe-plucker: free() invalid pointer: 0x00c0a60 aborted |
| 00:26.10 | Laibsch | Thaiger: Are you running gpe or opie? |
| 00:27.06 | Thaiger | gpe |
| 00:27.20 | Thaiger | Even if I set MALLOC_CHECK_ to 0 it will segfault |
| 00:28.10 | Laibsch | Well, then I don't know. Look through the BTS and file your own bug if you don't find anything. |
| 00:28.24 | Laibsch | ~bts |
| 00:28.27 | ibot | hmm... bts is a bug tracking system, or http://bugs.kde.org |
| 00:28.43 | Laibsch | ibot: forget about bts |
| 00:28.43 | ibot | Laibsch: i didn't have anything called 'about bts' to forget |
| 00:28.51 | Laibsch | ibot: forget bts |
| 00:30.58 | Laibsch | ibot: bts is a bug tracking system. For KDE it is http://bugs.kde.org, for OE it is http://bugs.openembedded.org |
| 00:30.58 | ibot | ...but bts is already something else... |
| 00:32.17 | looz | any player like xmms ? |
| 00:32.53 | Thaiger | http://openzaurus.linuxtogo.org/feed-browser/ |
| 00:33.22 | Thaiger | Opie right? |
| 00:33.28 | Thaiger | It looks like you want xmms-embedded |
| 00:33.28 | looz | yea Thaiger |
| 00:33.45 | looz | yes.. but I think that my problem is different... I didnt heard anything |
| 00:33.59 | looz | I try to set an alarm.. but nothing |
| 00:34.07 | Thaiger | even after checking your mixer? |
| 00:34.11 | looz | yeah |
| 00:34.29 | Thaiger | odd, I don't think I can help you there, I hardly used opie |
| 00:34.35 | looz | if I check "screen taps" and "key clicks" |
| 00:34.42 | looz | I didnt heard anything |
| 00:35.25 | Thaiger | I've noticed that sometimes when I restart GPE everything seems smaller (fonts and stuff), possibly it switched to a higher res? How do I switch back and forth? |
| 00:35.31 | Blue89 | back |
| 00:35.44 | Blue89 | looz, I use mplayer for all my media on the Z |
| 00:35.59 | Blue89 | xmms is too much work for the cpu to keep up |
| 00:36.22 | looz | thx.. I prefer mplayer too |
| 00:36.33 | looz | but the problem still remain because I didnt heard anything |
| 00:36.50 | looz | volume on the mixer is set up correct |
| 00:37.00 | Blue89 | which is a shame because I have some sweet winamp themes over here |
| 00:37.27 | looz | what can I check to see if all is right with sound ? |
| 00:37.30 | Blue89 | looz, my zaurus is really quiet, try connecting headphones |
| 00:37.39 | Blue89 | alsamixer might help too |
| 00:37.41 | Thaiger | Anyone got any tips on making gpe come out of suspend? Works sometimes, screen just stays blank other times, I know its working because my wifi card turns on |
| 00:37.59 | looz | Blue89 I'll try |
| 00:38.14 | Blue89 | Thaiger, when I get that I push a hardware button and the backlight usually comes back on |
| 00:38.27 | Blue89 | the auto backlight control is buggy |
| 00:38.56 | Thaiger | Keyboard button calendar address mail home menu, screen taps, and still nothing |
| 00:39.00 | Blue89 | it blanks the screen and does not come back sometimes if I leave it on, so I disable it |
| 00:39.07 | Blue89 | try the arrows |
| 00:39.30 | Blue89 | then just reset it, I am out of ideas :-S |
| 00:39.55 | Thaiger | I hate resetting it since its booted from SD, fsck and all that |
| 00:40.18 | Blue89 | that sux |
| 00:40.26 | looz | If I push hardware button backlight come back |
| 00:40.44 | looz | any hardware button |
| 00:40.58 | Blue89 | does anybod yelse have better luck with the slbl control? |
| 00:41.31 | Blue89 | I try to call it from cdm line, and I get an error every time, something about a bad file descriptor |
| 00:42.33 | Thaiger | I've never tried it, was looking for something like that though |
| 00:43.42 | Blue89 | I can't see any text in enlightenment, I need to find a console method of turning my backlight down so I get more battery life |
| 00:44.03 | Blue89 | or up so I can play doom and still see in the dark areas :-) |
| 00:44.31 | Blue89 | (now do you see why I love having usb? ;-) ) |
| 00:45.27 | Thaiger | What hardware you running? |
| 00:45.40 | Blue89 | terrier |
| 00:45.42 | Blue89 | c3200 |
| 00:45.55 | Thaiger | I'm assuming you have the newest OZ right? |
| 00:46.03 | Blue89 | crap, you were talking tp looz, weren't you... |
| 00:46.15 | Thaiger | nope |
| 00:46.25 | Thaiger | sorry blue: You hav the latest oz right? |
| 00:46.28 | Thaiger | :) |
| 00:46.39 | looz | haha |
| 00:46.41 | Thaiger | slbl was writtin for 2.4 |
| 00:46.45 | Thaiger | You're running 2.6 kernel |
| 00:46.56 | Blue89 | ah |
| 00:47.02 | Thaiger | I get the same thing |
| 00:47.11 | Blue89 | is there a 2.6 alternative? |
| 00:47.27 | looz | 2.4 :) |
| 00:47.39 | Blue89 | ...besides THAT |
| 00:47.41 | Blue89 | lol |
| 00:47.53 | looz | just joking Blue89 :) |
| 00:47.55 | Thaiger | OpenBSD? |
| 00:48.02 | Thaiger | :) |
| 00:48.05 | Thaiger | I'm looking |
| 00:48.13 | looz | what is slbl ? |
| 00:48.43 | Thaiger | There seem to be plenty of graphical ones, I wonder if the OZ/OE site has more info on interfaces and such, I guess I could always write one |
| 00:48.50 | Thaiger | command-line that is |
| 00:48.52 | Blue89 | it's a SL BackLight controller |
| 00:49.48 | Thaiger | Anyone use fluxbox? |
| 00:49.59 | looz | me |
| 00:50.24 | looz | but not on OZ :P |
| 00:50.35 | Thaiger | Damn, I'm trying to figure out keymapping |
| 00:50.59 | Thaiger | Where do I get the source for packages? |
| 00:51.46 | looz | flux has keymapping built in |
| 00:52.24 | looz | xmodmap |
| 00:53.12 | looz | IIRC just add in ~/.Xmodmap the keycode |
| 00:54.05 | looz | or I wrong? |
| 00:54.21 | Thaiger | I'm not sure, I'm just trying to get the menu in fluxbox |
| 00:56.49 | looz | no like with sounds |
| 00:57.05 | Thaiger | Anyone know what the first hira/kata key is (right next to ctrl) on cxxxx? |
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| 01:00.12 | Thaiger | Well I got the fluxbox menu working, but now I can't change back to VCs |
| 01:01.04 | looz | sorry but what does mean VCs? |
| 01:01.38 | Thaiger | the Virtual Console, ctrl-alt-F1 on regular linux FN-Left on OZ |
| 01:01.50 | looz | ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 01:02.22 | looz | but u r using flux on the OX ? |
| 01:02.34 | looz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.48 | Thaiger | Yeah, flux on OZ |
| 01:02.57 | Thaiger | and ctrl-alt-backspace kills X |
| 01:03.03 | Thaiger | FN-left switches |
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| 01:06.09 | Thaiger | Since I can't get debian maybe I should just go to openbsd |
| 01:06.20 | looz | but when an application (mplayer), block the OZ what can I do? |
| 01:06.34 | looz | I mean from remote.. no response, from GUI nothing too |
| 01:06.55 | looz | but I dont want to reset |
| 01:08.07 | looz | god |
| 01:08.54 | looz | what can I do when the system freeze? |
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| 01:09.30 | Thaiger | Grrr.. no BSD for SL-C1000 |
| 01:25.54 | Blue89 | I forget, is there a gimp package in the feed? |
| 01:26.15 | Blue89 | I would love one |
| 01:26.20 | looz | yeas |
| 01:26.32 | Thaiger | yes |
| 01:27.17 | Blue89 | with the wifi literally "on the blink" I don't know what I can install anymore... sad :-/ |
| 01:27.31 | Thaiger | What wifi card? |
| 01:27.35 | Blue89 | I need to buy a usb nic |
| 01:27.51 | Blue89 | I have a Planex BroadLanner |
| 01:28.33 | Blue89 | I posted my cardctl ident on the bug tracker when my card was not included in the hostap update, if you need it I am at the bottom |
| 01:28.42 | Thaiger | I've got planex gw something or other |
| 01:28.58 | Blue89 | really? is it from geekstuff4u.com? |
| 01:30.22 | Blue89 | we may have the same one |
| 01:30.22 | Blue89 | or similar |
| 01:30.22 | Thaiger | Gift, sorry |
| 01:30.22 | Thaiger | Planex Gw-CF11x |
| 01:30.22 | Blue89 | it's the same one alright |
| 01:30.24 | Blue89 | does yours drop off randomly? |
| 01:31.02 | Thaiger | It doesn't seem to, it works OK when I'm at home, although that means I'm usually within about 5 ft of the router, but anywhere else I can't even get on, no one else seems to have issues though |
| 01:34.05 | Blue89 | I think my backlight being stuck on 66 (no controll here) is limiting my tx power |
| 01:36.31 | Thaiger | Hm... I hadn't thought of that |
| 01:38.03 | looz | what does mean could not localte application opiemail ? |
| 01:38.24 | agaffney | I think that's pretty self-explanatory |
| 01:38.58 | looz | not for me.. because I dont know how to resolv |
| 01:39.46 | looz | agaffney is enough for u to resolv? |
| 01:40.13 | agaffney | you didn't ask how to fix it |
| 01:40.16 | agaffney | just what it meant |
| 01:40.17 | agaffney | :P |
| 01:40.40 | looz | :) |
| 01:46.16 | looz | noone? |
| 01:46.32 | Blue89 | ipkg install opiemail? |
| 01:46.48 | Blue89 | or maybe it's outside your path? |
| 01:46.58 | looz | yeah I installed it but when i'll try to start it I received that error |
| 01:47.48 | looz | Blue89 what does mean is outside your path ? |
| 01:49.13 | looz | if i'll try to lanch it from konsole... is said: Quicklauncher invoked as: opiemail |
| 01:49.21 | looz | nothing else |
| 01:57.05 | looz | Blue89 any suggestion? |
| 01:57.23 | looz | i'd like to read email from OZ |
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| 11:03.52 | looz | HI, anyone have the same problem as mine that when I try to start opiemail it said that cannt locate it? |
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| 11:48.54 | looz | guys a good browser for opie? |
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| 12:56.28 | looz | anyone know why when I start OZ the system try to load for two times sound module? |
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| 15:13.29 | rvalles | root@collie:~# ifup lo |
| 15:13.29 | rvalles | lo no private ioctls. |
| 15:13.29 | rvalles | Host AP driver data for device lo not found in procfs. |
| 15:13.29 | rvalles | run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/hostap-fw-load exited with return code 1: Success |
| 15:13.36 | rvalles | that happens on boot, too |
| 15:13.50 | rvalles | and lo and usbd0 are affected |
| 15:14.23 | rvalles | wireless works fine, btw. Stuff broke after I installed prism3-firmware and prism3-support |
| 15:14.32 | rvalles | OZ 3.5.4 |
| 15:14.36 | rvalles | (collie) |
| 15:15.24 | rvalles | root@collie:~# ipkg remove prism3-support |
| 15:15.24 | rvalles | Removing package prism3-support from root... |
| 15:15.24 | rvalles | root@collie:~# ifup lo |
| 15:15.25 | rvalles | root@collie:~# |
| 15:15.30 | rvalles | seems to be prism3-support collie |
| 15:15.38 | rvalles | I guess I can live without prism3-support. |
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| 15:40.40 | keisangi | hi there |
| 15:41.57 | keisangi | i wanted to know if open zaurus have hand-writen kanji recognition program , such as in cacko or in original sharp rom .. and wanted to ask in general about japanese support in OZ |
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| 15:43.23 | keisangi | atm i'm using cacko 1.23, and feel like giving OZ a try, but i need the "hand writen japanese" prog |
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| 16:01.27 | rvalles | damnit |
| 16:01.37 | rvalles | without prism-support the firmware doesn't get load |
| 16:01.47 | rvalles | so I really can't live without prism3-support |
| 16:01.58 | rvalles | but prism3-support fuxors the other interfaces. |
| 16:02.04 | rvalles | annoying |
| 16:07.44 | rvalles | hm, maybe I can |
| 16:07.46 | rvalles | but just by hand |
| 16:07.52 | rvalles | better than nothing, I guess |
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| 16:18.09 | keisangi | any good replacement for zten on OZ? |
| 16:24.00 | rvalles | keisangi: sorry, I'm not japanese and I don't know about kana/kanji input on OZ |
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| 17:02.25 | keisangi | rvalles: also, |
| 17:02.36 | keisangi | i would like to install gba emulator |
| 17:02.51 | keisangi | on cacko i was using visualboyadvance |
| 17:03.06 | keisangi | is there's a port of some gba emu on OZ ? |
| 17:03.48 | keisangi | and possibly other emus? |
| 17:07.40 | rvalles | keisangi: the only emu I've managed to make work is UAE |
| 17:07.56 | rvalles | tried it but crashes on my collie. |
| 17:10.34 | keisangi | maybe i should install pdaxrom then ? |
| 17:11.36 | keisangi | .. i can't seems to find pdaXrom's feeds |
| 17:11.58 | keisangi | hum btw is it ok to speak about pdaxrom here? |
| 17:17.41 | CoreDump|afk | keisangi: as the traffic here is pretty low ATM, it is no problem |
| 17:17.54 | keisangi | hum it seems there's a Lot more stuffs available for pdaxrom .. |
| 17:18.15 | keisangi | CoreDump|afk: you mean there's another pdaxrom dedicated channel ? |
| 17:18.24 | rvalles | keisangi: depending on the zaurus |
| 17:18.35 | rvalles | keisangi: you might want to install armstrong or whatever it's called |
| 17:18.42 | keisangi | rvalles: here it's sl-c860 |
| 17:18.53 | keisangi | armstrong ? |
| 17:18.58 | keisangi | what's that? |
| 17:18.59 | rvalles | it's a relativelly new distro |
| 17:19.09 | keisangi | eh |
| 17:19.09 | rvalles | people from OZ and Familiar and other places united in one distro |
| 17:19.17 | rvalles | which is supposed to support anything arm |
| 17:19.23 | rvalles | they've got lotsa packages and stuff |
| 17:19.31 | rvalles | sadly, no support for my collie so I haven't tried that yet. |
| 17:19.47 | keisangi | interesting .. would you have a link by any chance ? :) |
| 17:20.07 | rvalles | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ |
| 17:20.17 | keisangi | cool, thanks :) |
| 17:20.37 | rvalles | c8x0 are supported |
| 17:20.39 | rvalles | so be happy. |
| 17:22.40 | keisangi | i'm trying to see what's available in the feed, and what's the status of the project .. do you think it's usable already? |
| 17:23.39 | rvalles | I believe it is better than OZ for the supported zauruses, but since I haven't tried it (no collie :/ ) I cannot tell |
| 17:23.45 | rvalles | just experiment... :) |
| 17:24.26 | rvalles | btw, keisangi, kanon 2006 finished... no more nayuki for me :/ |
| 17:24.40 | keisangi | hum? |
| 17:24.58 | rvalles | just some anime |
| 17:25.27 | keisangi | what do you mean ? ah.. kanon .. i watched that serie, a while ago .. was nice :) |
| 17:25.48 | rvalles | keisangi: there was a renewed 24-episode series last year. |
| 17:26.02 | rvalles | keisangi: I watched the original ages ago and this one recently. |
| 17:28.06 | keisangi | ah i didn't know they've redone it |
| 17:28.50 | keisangi | awsome pdaxrom even have the java blackdown jdk ! |
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| 19:20.56 | mimecar | hi |
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| 21:03.43 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 21:03.55 | JustinP | hey |
| 21:04.13 | CoreDump|home | yo JustinP, long time no see ;) |
| 21:11.05 | JustinP | :-) |
| 21:11.14 | JustinP | where have you been? |
| 21:13.13 | CoreDump|home | busy w/ life |
| 21:13.54 | JustinP | very much understood |
| 21:14.00 | JustinP | any progress on altboot? |
| 21:14.30 | CoreDump|home | not really. |
| 21:14.46 | CoreDump|home | I've added neo1973 support and nslu2 will follow soon |
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| 21:32.56 | JustinP | would be nice to have "choose before reboot"... |
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| 21:51.07 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: this would be difficult to implement :\ |
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| 22:20.45 | mimecar | hi |
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| 22:23.24 | CoreDump|home | hi mimecar |
| 22:23.32 | mimecar | evening CoreDump|home |
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