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| 07:24.06 | NetAmp | hi all |
| 07:24.43 | NetAmp | does any1 know how to switch terminals/ttys with the Zaurus (5500) keyboard? |
| 07:25.35 | NetAmp | From OPIE menu I switched to terminal 1 (text mode), but I couldn't get back to GUI mode |
| 07:26.57 | NetAmp | So I had to restart :P |
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| 08:08.10 | hrw | NAbyss: calendar+left/right? |
| 08:11.29 | NAbyss | hrw: hmm? |
| 08:11.52 | hrw | 02 09:31 < NetAmp> does any1 know how to switch terminals/ttys with the Zaurus (5500) keyboard? |
| 08:11.57 | hrw | ops. |
| 08:12.01 | hrw | ~lart tab |
| 08:12.01 | ibot | cats /dev/urandom into tab's ear |
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| 20:30.41 | mimecar | hi |
| 20:36.29 | summatusmentis | hey mimecar |
| 20:36.53 | mimecar | evening summatusmentis |
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| 20:55.04 | summatusmentis | JustinP: you around? |
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| 21:36.15 | JustinP | summatusmentis: yeah |
| 21:48.33 | summatusmentis | JustinP: did you by any chance test out abiword? |
| 21:52.14 | JustinP | summatusmentis: sorry, not yet :-/ |
| 21:54.45 | summatusmentis | JustinP: no worries, I've thought about setting up OE, to get an updated version, but I'm not sure if I'm gonna flash to Angstrom yet or not |
| 21:56.38 | JustinP | well, Angstrom is definately better in many ways...wireless hasn't worked yet for me, though |
| 21:56.59 | JustinP | I'm going to bring up my Z now and see if I can get abiword working |
| 21:58.44 | summatusmentis | wireless hasn't worked? I was under the impression Angstrom was very similar to OZ at this point... |
| 22:02.07 | JustinP | similar, yes |
| 22:02.15 | JustinP | but wireless with my abicom has refused to work |
| 22:02.21 | JustinP | ambicom |
| 22:03.34 | summatusmentis | interesting, so would you say Angstrom is as usable as 3.5.4.1 GPE, assuming you had wireless? |
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| 22:19.34 | summatusmentis | interesting, I wasn't affected at all... |
| 22:20.28 | JustinP | angstrom is pretty usable, yes, I'd be using it if my wireless worked but I haven't had time to figure out why it's not working |
| 22:20.30 | summatusmentis | JustinP: ok, thanks |
| 22:27.01 | JustinP | summatusmentis: stupid question. Are you trying to run abiword in GPE or Opie? |
| 22:28.34 | JustinP | summatusmentis: it's working fine for me in GPE in an image from the newest .oz354 branch. |
| 22:28.49 | summatusmentis | JustinP: GPE, I'm not dumb :-P |
| 22:29.12 | summatusmentis | I'm using the one from 3.5.4.1, I'm getting the impression that not much has been updated in the feeds after bugs were fixed |
| 22:29.16 | JustinP | summatusmentis: like I said, dumb question. |
| 22:29.27 | summatusmentis | heh |
| 22:29.30 | JustinP | summatusmentis: quite likely. |
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| 22:31.20 | summatusmentis | JustinP: so I should either build it, or flash to angstrom and use the one there? |
| 22:31.52 | JustinP | whichever you'd rather....there should be an oz 3.5.5 release at some point as well |
| 22:32.15 | summatusmentis | unless there aren't enough devs |
| 22:32.28 | summatusmentis | which, seemingly at this point, there aren't |
| 22:37.12 | hvontres|poodle | summatusmentis: your could always join up as well :) |
| 22:39.42 | summatusmentis | hvontres|poodle: I know I know, I lack coding skills, and I've attempted a couple of times, but then something comes up |
| 22:40.26 | hvontres|poodle | summatusmentis: well, building test images and hunting for bugs can also help... |
| 22:40.27 | summatusmentis | and, well, the folks over at #oe don't seem all that interested in helping a newbie |
| 22:40.49 | JustinP | depends on who you catch |
| 22:40.59 | JustinP | I help when I can |
| 22:41.04 | summatusmentis | hvontres|poodle: is there any intro doc to any of that? |
| 22:41.14 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: placing koen and kergoth on ignore helps =) |
| 22:41.31 | JustinP | there's the wiki/GettingStarted |
| 22:41.50 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: their nice enough, just not seemingly wanting to help anyone new along |
| 22:41.53 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: actulally, at least on the Ml koen has almost started to be helpfull :) |
| 22:41.54 | summatusmentis | JustinP: seen that |
| 22:42.19 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: he has his better days =) |
| 22:43.18 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: At least there hasn't been anybody as dense as Cyorxamp lateley :) |
| 22:43.32 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: thank god |
| 22:43.37 | summatusmentis | hvontres|poodle: they other issue, or maybe it's just my own issue, is it seems to me as though there should be collaboration or something, a timeline of things that need to be done, and when |
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| 22:43.53 | JustinP | I put him on ignore....useless chatter and didn't want help |
| 22:44.13 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: he is the only person I ever kicked from this channel |
| 22:44.19 | CoreDump|home | twice |
| 22:44.30 | CoreDump|home | and banned him for 20m =) |
| 22:44.40 | CoreDump|home | he didn't learn... |
| 22:45.18 | summatusmentis | oh, I do remember that |
| 22:46.11 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: good, glad you did. He needed it. Badly. |
| 22:46.50 | JustinP | anyway, no need to think about the bad times.... |
| 22:46.52 | erdinger | hi. i know this is not a software specific question but i don't know where to ask else.. i'm waiting for my zaurus to arrive from usa. of course it has a us power supply which does not fit into german plugs. can i use this with an adaptor? |
| 22:47.08 | CoreDump|home | erdinger: yes |
| 22:47.35 | CoreDump|home | erdinger: all Z's ship w/ the same charger and they work w/ 110V as well as w/ 230V |
| 22:47.56 | CoreDump|home | you just need a different cable, that's all |
| 22:48.11 | erdinger | CoreDump|home, good to know. so i hit the mall and just get a us to german adapter my zaurus won't blow up? |
| 22:48.16 | erdinger | ok |
| 22:48.23 | CoreDump|home | erdinger: right. |
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| 22:48.42 | CoreDump|home | I have the "american" and german chargers here. The only difference is the cable |
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| 22:50.02 | hvontres|poodle | summatusmentis: At this point, 3.5.5 is still pretty raw. I have managed to build some console only imageas for my 5600 and ran into some problems. My advice would be to get OE setup and try to build a bootstrap image for your Zaurus and see if it boots. |
| 22:50.22 | hvontres|poodle | summatusmentis: which model do you have? |
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| 22:52.47 | summatusmentis | hvontres|poodle: collie, and terrier |
| 22:52.57 | summatusmentis | I'd rather not do testing on my terrier though |
| 22:56.19 | hvontres|poodle | summatusmentis: are you going to be on later? I need to go home now. |
| 22:57.11 | summatusmentis | hvontres|poodle: yeah, probably sporadically, but yeah, I'll be here |
| 22:58.16 | summatusmentis | any prism based CF card will do WPA right? |
| 23:16.37 | erdinger | CoreDump|home, you think i can get such a cable in a normal electronic shop? |
| 23:17.09 | CoreDump|home | erdinger: yes I believe so. Chances are high you have one lying around, too =) |
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| 23:18.54 | Domber | good evening |
| 23:20.49 | CoreDump|home | hi Domber |
| 23:20.55 | Domber | hi CoreDump|home |
| 23:21.04 | Domber | i have problems with installing xmms on my OZ ... |
| 23:21.26 | Domber | Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C |
| 23:21.39 | Domber | im not as familiar with libs as i should be ^^ |
| 23:21.46 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: WPA works on any prism based CF card right? even if it's certs based? |
| 23:21.49 | erdinger | CoreDump|home, ah i see.. it's the normal computer cable that also fits in the common desktop pc power supplies? |
| 23:22.07 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: I have never used WPA at home sorry |
| 23:22.34 | CoreDump|home | erdinger: No but another very common cable. Dunno if it has a special name |
| 23:22.44 | Domber | so i'm a little bit stumped now ... and search for help |
| 23:22.48 | CoreDump|home | found on VCRs, TVs and such |
| 23:23.09 | CoreDump|home | Domber: you are running GPE right? |
| 23:23.11 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: ok, thanks. The college I'm going to requires WPA usage, and I'm planning on getting a new CF card, as mine is orinoco based |
| 23:23.46 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: you might wanna talk w/ hrw|gone about WPA. I believe he is using WPA at home or work with his Z |
| 23:24.02 | JustinP | I've used WPA with an Ambicom WL1100C-CF |
| 23:24.09 | JustinP | but not all of the options |
| 23:24.15 | Domber | CoreDump|home: no im running OPIE |
| 23:24.30 | erdinger | CoreDump|home, the one which jacks look like an eight? |
| 23:24.34 | erdinger | a bit at least :) |
| 23:24.42 | CoreDump|home | hmmm I didn't even know there was an Opie port of xmms :\ |
| 23:24.53 | CoreDump|home | erdinger: that's the one =) |
| 23:25.04 | summatusmentis | JustinP: what do you mean not all the options? |
| 23:25.39 | Domber | CoreDump|home: there is, otherwise the hentges ROM couldn't use it in its ROM also |
| 23:26.07 | JustinP | summatusmentis: I mean that there are a hell of a lot of ways to use WPA and I've only used 1 or 2 |
| 23:26.15 | JustinP | summatusmentis: and I don't use it at home, so... |
| 23:26.24 | summatusmentis | JustinP: oh, ok |
| 23:26.26 | erdinger | can i use applications compiled for open zaurus on angstrom? |
| 23:26.31 | summatusmentis | I'll talk to hrw|gone sometime |
| 23:26.38 | summatusmentis | erdinger: apparently not |
| 23:26.45 | JustinP | erdinger: no |
| 23:26.46 | Domber | CoreDump|home: or which music application would you prefer for opie? |
| 23:26.56 | erdinger | i'm not sure which distro to use |
| 23:27.07 | CoreDump|home | Domber: I never used my Z for that sorry |
| 23:27.29 | erdinger | a stupid question to ask in the openzaurus channel :) |
| 23:27.31 | erdinger | i admit |
| 23:27.35 | summatusmentis | erdinger: sounds like what I'm facing, I've got GPE/OZ, but I'm thinking about going to Angstrom |
| 23:27.53 | erdinger | don't wanna start no distro war here |
| 23:27.58 | erdinger | :x |
| 23:28.02 | Domber | CoreDump|home: ahh ok, sorry ;-) for what exactly do you use it normally? |
| 23:28.12 | CoreDump|home | Domber: hacking =) |
| 23:29.05 | summatusmentis | erdinger: I wouldn't worry about a distro war, just don't bring up cacko or pdaXrom *cough* |
| 23:29.22 | Domber | CoreDump|home: which model do you have? |
| 23:29.33 | CoreDump|home | Domber: Akita, Collie and Poodle |
| 23:29.55 | erdinger | whooho |
| 23:29.59 | erdinger | i will get c1000 |
| 23:30.15 | erdinger | does it have a pet's name too? |
| 23:30.30 | CoreDump|home | erdinger: Akita |
| 23:30.31 | summatusmentis | akita, I think |
| 23:30.56 | erdinger | i didn't see the point in spending 100 euros for a hard drive when i can get a 4gb flash card for less |
| 23:30.57 | erdinger | btw |
| 23:31.02 | erdinger | are those supported? |
| 23:31.04 | Domber | CoreDump|home: you have 3 of them? nice .. ;D can you tell me which WIFI card you use for your collie? |
| 23:31.24 | CoreDump|home | Domber: a buffalo which isn't sold anymore ;) |
| 23:32.38 | summatusmentis | erdinger: I'm almost positive, but it limits you to not using wifi |
| 23:32.50 | summatusmentis | Domber: I was using a symbol spectrum24, but took it w/ me when I upgraded. I don't think mines sold anymore either |
| 23:33.36 | Domber | so which one would you prefer for SL-5500G? |
| 23:33.51 | erdinger | summatusmentis, i'm talking about sd cards |
| 23:34.08 | summatusmentis | erdinger: oh, I thought you said cf, my bad |
| 23:34.14 | summatusmentis | erdinger: yeah, they should be |
| 23:34.22 | summatusmentis | Domber: I'd look for one w/ a prism chipset |
| 23:34.43 | erdinger | no just said flash card |
| 23:34.55 | summatusmentis | yep, got it |
| 23:35.06 | Domber | summatusmentis: prism chipset, ok, thx |
| 23:35.10 | erdinger | i get one shipped with the zaurus |
| 23:35.14 | erdinger | prism2 |
| 23:35.29 | summatusmentis | erdinger: where'd you order from? |
| 23:35.36 | erdinger | i'm looking forward to test that chipset as i'm used to atheros |
| 23:35.36 | JustinP | Domber: you could use mpd and ncmpc ;-) |
| 23:35.38 | erdinger | ebay |
| 23:36.23 | summatusmentis | erdinger: ah |
| 23:37.43 | Domber | do you guys know any popular and frequent weblogs or websites about zaurus in general? |
| 23:37.49 | Domber | i mean, beside the main ones? |
| 23:37.53 | Domber | private ones? |
| 23:40.08 | summatusmentis | Domber: tyrannozaurus.<I think it's .com, might be something else though> |
| 23:40.36 | Domber | ty |
| 23:45.30 | Domber | does anyone of you develop own software for Z? |
| 23:46.09 | summatusmentis | I think JustinP does.... might be wrong though |