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| 09:18.22 | lardman | morning |
| 09:18.42 | lardman | is the collie mmc driver that's being talked about on the ml for 2.6.x? |
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| 09:30.36 | hrw | yes |
| 09:31.20 | lardman | that's good news :) |
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| 09:55.34 | dcordes_ | lardman: the one that supports cards bigger than 1gb? |
| 09:57.32 | dcordes_ | I still didn't manage to get my akita feeds right. can somebody help me with that? |
| 09:58.13 | dcordes_ | i would like to be able to install packages |
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| 10:56.29 | dcordes_ | somebody with akita and a working list of feeds here? |
| 10:56.50 | dcordes_ | i'd like to install some packages but adding the new feed urls manually didn't work |
| 10:56.57 | dcordes_ | please help.. |
| 11:21.58 | lardman | dcordes: What feeds do you have defined? /etc/ipkg.conf and /etc/ipkg/*.conf files |
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| 11:51.20 | darkschneider | mmm intresting enougth that feeds.openzaurus.org does not work from here |
| 11:52.14 | XorA | works perfectly here |
| 11:52.33 | XorA | is your browser not following the redirect? or has one of the mirrors gone down? |
| 12:04.37 | darkschneider | JustinP: great you contrib emacs :) |
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| 12:14.14 | darkschneider | can i mirror the entire package repo? |
| 12:14.41 | darkschneider | (just 3.5.4 feed actually) |
| 12:22.01 | dcordes | darkschneider: lardman: Wait I will pastebin my ipkg.conf. I'm not so quick with the zaurus yet |
| 12:22.01 | darkschneider | XorA: no idea, but i do not think it's a brower problem |
| 12:28.12 | dcordes | lardman: darkschneider: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15207 |
| 12:28.39 | darkschneider | yep that i jsut had to replace |
| 12:28.55 | darkschneider | cause the things was not working |
| 12:30.48 | darkschneider | there is still a way to use packages installed to a fat formatted card, that card is ahred by my camera... |
| 12:30.55 | darkschneider | ahred/shared |
| 12:34.21 | dcordes | I have no Idea how to change the feeds in order to make the updates work. |
| 12:34.32 | dcordes | lardman: could you change the lines for me? |
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| 12:47.21 | dcordes | or could somebody tell me how to modify the feeds to get it working? here's my /etc/ipkg.conf I have the akita c1000 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15207 |
| 12:57.04 | hrw | ewi now works |
| 12:57.28 | XorA | ah so one of the mirrors was down |
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| 12:59.16 | dcordes | XorA: XorA So it works now? |
| 12:59.34 | hrw | yes |
| 12:59.37 | dcordes | ah i see. upgrade is running |
| 12:59.40 | dcordes | nice! |
| 13:06.37 | dcordes | how can i search for a package? ipkg search returns nothing |
| 13:11.57 | XorA | less /varlib/ipkg/feed-name |
| 13:12.03 | XorA | :-( |
| 13:20.38 | dcordes | XorA: is there no more easy way to search them? |
| 13:21.05 | XorA | dcordes: not that I have found in last 6 years |
| 13:21.08 | hrw | ipkg list |grep packagename |
| 13:21.14 | hrw | ipkg list *packagename* |
| 13:21.22 | dcordes | alright |
| 13:21.24 | dcordes | thx |
| 13:22.03 | dcordes | so when I want to install a pack from the feeds, I need to "ipkg install exact-pack-name.ipg" ? |
| 13:22.16 | hrw | ipkg install package |
| 13:23.21 | dcordes | well ipkg install gaim does not work |
| 13:23.59 | hrw | because ipkg wrote 'get lost, I do not want to install gaim because you have hairs on foot'? |
| 13:24.48 | dcordes | hrw: how do you know this? |
| 13:27.39 | dcordes | i feel watched know.. |
| 13:27.47 | hrw | ;D |
| 13:27.47 | dcordes | -k |
| 13:28.38 | dcordes | don't be so harsh with me hrw. you were a newbie sometime too |
| 13:28.58 | hrw | dcordes: ok, ok I was joking |
| 13:29.22 | hrw | dcordes: show what does ipkg told when you tried to install gaim |
| 13:30.37 | dcordes | i got it now. |
| 13:30.39 | dcordes | ;) |
| 13:34.14 | dcordes | it even works and I got a link for it |
| 13:34.16 | dcordes | nice nice |
| 13:35.05 | dcordes | thanks for your help so far |
| 13:35.08 | hrw | np |
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| 18:25.47 | xmoogle | hiya, having a couple problems |
| 18:27.01 | xmoogle | first, managed to sorta set up WPA wifi but udhcp, while quite happily obtaining an address, doesn't seem to make dns resolving work, second the screen is randomly turning off and not coming back on (am on an sl-c3200) |
| 18:27.41 | xmoogle | button presses are not bringing the screen back |
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| 18:44.16 | xmoogle | also is there any way to take an installed openzaurus system, remove most of the pda stuff and just install plain debian? ie, the ability to use normal desktop style GUIs, use apt-get and arm .debs, etc? |
| 18:45.03 | hrw | no |
| 18:47.46 | kolla | well, you can ofcourse use openzaurus to bootstrap debian from some other filesystem |
| 18:48.00 | kolla | I do that, only with gentoo and not debian |
| 18:48.05 | hrw | then it will not be OZ |
| 18:48.22 | kolla | the flash will be :) |
| 18:54.28 | xmoogle | hm, yes, but...there's the challenge of setting up X n stuff, would be nice to be able to keep the settings openzaurus uses...what settings/driver *does* openzaurus use for X anyway? |
| 18:55.14 | xmoogle | um, yeah, anyway of turning my bloody screen back on when it randomly turns off btw? other than pressing the reset switch inside the battery compartment that is... |
| 19:05.49 | xmoogle | see really i want to use my zaurus as a miniature laptop, not a pda, it has the specs for it...i dislike pda-ised GUIs, i'd love to just be able to run a normal OS on it...OpenBSD seemed like the perfect solution, 'cept they build virtually no binary packages for the system, NetBSD has no news (at least that i can find) on how their port is going, and running a debian chroot is slow and complex, i'd love to just have plain debian on th |
| 19:05.49 | xmoogle | e system, with working X and touchscreen, i got as far as getting it to boot into a debian console but no further, could never get X working, let alone configure the touchscreen... |
| 19:06.19 | xmoogle | is there any documentation on how people actually built operating systems for the zaurus? like openzaurus, pdaxrom, openbsd, etc were done...? |
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| 19:35.51 | evilsocket | hi guys |
| 19:36.01 | evilsocket | i need help with my sharp collie (sl-5500) |
| 19:36.18 | evilsocket | i installed oz with opie, but the wlan doesn't seem to work ... |
| 19:36.42 | evilsocket | i can get an ip from my wireless router via dhcp requests ... |
| 19:36.47 | evilsocket | can you help me ? |
| 19:37.02 | evilsocket | with gpe it worked perfectly ... |
| 19:37.11 | evilsocket | but i like opie more than gpe ... |
| 19:38.07 | evilsocket | hey, anyone here ? |
| 19:40.35 | evilsocket | plz help me ... |
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| 19:50.49 | dcordes | hey all |
| 19:51.24 | dcordes | are there codecs for propietary video formats for openzaurus? |
| 20:01.18 | bronson | dcordes: no... Microsoft's ARM software is very different from its 386 stuff. It isn't like desktops where you can just invoke w32codecs and go. |
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| 20:38.25 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4/3.5.4.1 | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ | Feed browser: http://openzaurus.org/feed-browser/ | feeds.openzaurus.org rotates through all available mirrors | without more developers there will be no new release |
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| 22:36.08 | Blue89 | Are there any updates to the wifi system coming? |
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| 22:42.14 | zcordes | are there any other web browser than the one which is included? |
| 22:43.31 | Blue89 | yes |
| 22:43.57 | Blue89 | dillo is one, firefox is another. I use GPE, I am not sure what option Opie users have |
| 22:44.01 | zcordes | one with flash and java support would be great |
| 22:44.25 | NAbyss | You won't get flash, because that requires a binary blob (non-ARM) |
| 22:44.27 | zcordes | blue i tried gpe but i couldnt move windows there |
| 22:44.37 | NAbyss | And java's much the same unless you compile it from source.. messy. |
| 22:44.53 | zcordes | nab are there no gpl ports of flash? |
| 22:45.13 | Blue89 | there is one in the works but I don't think it is read yet IIRC |
| 22:45.35 | zcordes | sounds good |
| 22:45.42 | NAbyss | zcordes: Buggered if I know.. haven't touched flash in years. I consider the abscence a feature, not a bug. |
| 22:45.52 | Blue89 | zcordes, I use Enlightenment instead of GPE's normal environment. I can move windows, although I am missing the menu text |
| 22:46.01 | zcordes | what about gpe... is it true that there are no real windows in it? |
| 22:46.25 | NAbyss | There's windows.. IIRC it's just non-dialogs that are forced to fullscreen |
| 22:47.00 | zcordes | yea thats why i-have opie now |
| 22:47.12 | Blue89 | zcordes, it has windows, they are just as big as the screen |
| 22:47.31 | zcordes | why can opie handle that but not gpe? |
| 22:47.36 | Blue89 | GPE is the Kdrive X server with a mini DE |
| 22:47.51 | Blue89 | it uses matchbox to force windows to be full screened |
| 22:47.56 | zcordes | actually icome from a gnome enviornment so id like to use gpe |
| 22:48.09 | Blue89 | it CAN handle smaller windows, it just DOESN'T |
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| 22:48.45 | Blue89 | zcordes, I never tried fluxbox, but I bet it would solve your problem there |
| 22:48.53 | zcordes | how can i enable unmaximizinfd and scaling of windows then? |
| 22:49.09 | zcordes | that sounds good |
| 22:49.27 | zcordes | fluxbox is nice and friendly yo your resources |
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| 22:50.28 | zcordes | i heard that some people even use gnome |
| 22:50.34 | Blue89 | THAT, I don't know how to do, but the rest should be pretty straitforward. |
| 22:50.55 | NAbyss | Gnome on a Z would be nasty.. you've only gor 64mb of RAM |
| 22:51.01 | Blue89 | I have heard of KDE being used, but not gnome |
| 22:51.23 | zcordes | nevermind then |
| 22:51.39 | zcordes | gpee with _real_ windows and im fine |
| 22:51.48 | Blue89 | if you want eye candy and lits of buttons go with Enlightenment, otherwise fluxbox should be perfect |
| 22:51.54 | Blue89 | lots* |
| 22:53.25 | zcordes | how to i install it and ssetup the startup? |
| 22:53.52 | zcordes | sorry for my horrible typing. i'm not so quick with th z yet |
| 22:53.55 | Blue89 | I think "ipkg install fluxbox-gpe" will do it |
| 22:54.16 | zcordes | but i have only opie here |
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| 22:57.58 | zcordes | Blue89: how do i select which desktop tp use |
| 22:57.58 | Blue89 | you should install a gpe image first I think |
| 22:58.21 | zcordes | oh no |
| 22:58.54 | Blue89 | unless you want to install X by hand, which I'm sure can also be done |
| 22:58.56 | zcordes | no other way? i installed all kernel modules etc |
| 22:59.28 | Blue89 | I think you just install kdrive-xfbdev |
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| 22:59.36 | Blue89 | and a window manager |
| 22:59.47 | Blue89 | it should grab all the deps for you automagically |
| 23:00.19 | zcordes | and what about the start? |
| 23:00.29 | Blue89 | I'm not sure |
| 23:00.53 | zcordes | is there something like gdm or kdm which let's me chose what to take? |
| 23:01.04 | Blue89 | they use a similar startup system to the one Gentoo has, but they don't have the rc-update tool |
| 23:01.08 | zcordes | think i should better decide for one |
| 23:01.21 | NAbyss | zcordes: There's no kdm/gdm, as opie doesn't use X |
| 23:01.28 | Blue89 | you can have both, you just need to figure out how to switch |
| 23:01.45 | zcordes | i want x but opie looks so good and it has nice apps |
| 23:01.51 | Blue89 | NAbyss, he needs to know how to change boot services |
| 23:01.54 | zcordes | hard decision for me |
| 23:02.40 | Blue89 | zcordes, are you on wifi? |
| 23:03.11 | zcordes | yes |
| 23:03.22 | zcordes | prism2 cf card |
| 23:03.46 | Blue89 | my wifi has not worked correctly since I flashed, even after I fixed the host_ap conf file |
| 23:04.04 | Blue89 | I'm glad to hear you are having better luck |
| 23:04.21 | zcordes | it worked outta the box |
| 23:04.45 | zcordes | then i installed a patched driver ready for injectio |
| 23:04.51 | Blue89 | so did mine IIRC but it died after the first update and I never completely fixed it |
| 23:04.57 | zcordes | leaving the same firmware on it |
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| 23:11.27 | erdinger | Blue89, why don't you just flash back? |
| 23:31.03 | dcordes | is there a way to save files with the opie browser? |
| 23:31.15 | dcordes | I had to work my way around it with wget which is very annoying |
| 23:44.00 | Blue89 | dcordes, I just think there should be a better way |
| 23:45.59 | dcordes | Blue89, Let me know :) |
| 23:46.17 | dcordes | I'm about to install the GPE image again... |
| 23:54.45 | dcordes | Blue89, you still around? |
| 23:57.51 | Blue89 | yes |
| 23:58.14 | Blue89 | I was surfing in another terminal, sorry if I have a typing delay |
| 23:58.23 | dcordes | Blue89, nvm |
| 23:58.34 | dcordes | I'm flashing back to gpe right now |
| 23:58.53 | Blue89 | I am on my gentoo box and I am getting random x server crashes, prolly due to the binary radeon driver I was trying |
| 23:58.58 | dcordes | I was just wondering... is there a different way to get that window resizing wiht gpe? |
| 23:59.13 | Blue89 | so I have been in the terminals only today |
| 23:59.16 | dcordes | Blue89, eek fglrx? |
| 23:59.22 | Blue89 | yes |
| 23:59.25 | dcordes | omg |
| 23:59.30 | dcordes | only problems with that |
| 23:59.36 | Blue89 | I am sick of it crashing, I think I am going to uninstall it |
| 23:59.47 | dcordes | try the gpl radeon driver |