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| 14:24.07 | will_r | Hello. I've just installed OpenZaurus on my Zaurus. I can only boot to a prompt.. How do I start GPE? Am I missing something obvious? |
| 14:24.44 | hrw | which flavour you installed? |
| 14:25.54 | will_r | which flavour of openzaurus? It's 3.5.4.1, on the C3200.. Apparently it comes with GPE. |
| 14:26.40 | hrw | i comes with bootstrap/opie/gpe and you have to choose one |
| 14:26.51 | hrw | you chosen gpe or bootstrap? |
| 14:27.23 | will_r | is this at the altboot menu or during installation or at some other point? |
| 14:28.21 | hrw | when you select one for download |
| 14:28.36 | will_r | Aahh right I think I must have downloaded the bootstrap version then |
| 14:28.50 | will_r | okay thank you - that makes sense! |
| 14:29.11 | hrw | ;) |
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| 15:04.36 | kolla | hrw: I have now partitioned my 2GB SD on collie, with swap partition and ext2 and also used it quite a bit... no failures yet afaik, only very slow :) |
| 15:10.05 | hrw | thats because of debug code |
| 15:10.19 | hrw | you have 0418 or 0417 release? |
| 15:12.27 | kolla | 0418 |
| 15:13.29 | hrw | kexec kernel from 0417 - it probably do not had debug on |
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| 15:23.25 | kolla | hrw: havent tried kexec no |
| 15:26.45 | Laibsch | good to see the progress on the collie. |
| 15:26.59 | Laibsch | Sorry, I still made no significant testing contribution |
| 15:27.51 | hrw | kolla: kexec -h |
| 15:28.04 | hrw | kolla: you need to isntall kexec-tools (or kexec-utils) first |
| 15:28.08 | hrw | its easy |
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| 15:45.50 | kolla | hrw: ok, I'll give it a go.. kinda busy with landrey and cleaning up atm :) |
| 15:46.15 | hrw | I need to clean a bit too |
| 15:46.30 | kolla | laundry |
| 15:46.48 | kolla | my brother phoned me this morning, asking if it was ok for him and his gf to come visit me next weekend, hehe |
| 15:47.08 | kolla | so now all hell is loose :) |
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| 16:39.31 | Blue89 | who was that who suggested I setup my /etc/network/interfaces so I know the wifi card is on the right network? |
| 16:39.45 | Blue89 | I tried it, and I am still having problems |
| 16:40.00 | hrw | wireless_essid NAME |
| 16:40.58 | Blue89 | I now can get on the network, and stay connected for varying lengths of time, but it still drops off randomly |
| 16:40.58 | hrw | broken card? |
| 16:40.58 | Blue89 | (actually I am listening to music on it so I know when the music stops it is offline) |
| 16:41.03 | Blue89 | it just dropped off as I was typing |
| 16:41.10 | hrw | sorry but I have to go |
| 16:41.15 | Blue89 | ok |
| 16:42.16 | Blue89 | one more thing: if I do "cardctl eject 1; sleep 30; cardctl insert 1" I get my connection back, but I will lose it again |
| 16:42.38 | Blue89 | also, having swap greatly expanded the time it would stay connected |
| 16:43.20 | Blue89 | this seems to me more like a software issue than a hardware one |
| 16:48.29 | kolla | prism? hostap? |
| 16:48.42 | kolla | never got it working well with OZ :P |
| 16:49.25 | kolla | allthough my d-link dfc-650W works better than my SMC EZ Connect |
| 16:49.49 | Blue89 | I never messed with the river I have, I got the one that was updated without people's card numbers, and I had to tell the driver my card number |
| 16:50.04 | Blue89 | driver* |
| 16:50.19 | Blue89 | that is hostap |
| 16:51.01 | Blue89 | for some reason my zaurus is actually staying connected now, it is going on 5-6 minutes now without dropping |
| 16:51.21 | Blue89 | so if there is anything I can install that will fix it, now is the time to tell me ;-) |
| 16:51.28 | kolla | mine always drops when I transfer data to/from it |
| 16:51.58 | Blue89 | mine always drops right when I type a command to use the network, like the shift key is sucking up all of my power >_< |
| 16:52.23 | kolla | irc and ssh connection works fine, but scp, wget or whatever with larger files always drops |
| 16:52.30 | kolla | hehe |
| 16:52.39 | Blue89 | hmm |
| 16:53.07 | Blue89 | so if you could restrict the traffic from a software level and help the card to keep up, it might work better? |
| 16:54.24 | Blue89 | wow, it made it for about 10 minutes and it just dropped off |
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| 16:57.25 | mimecar | hi |
| 16:57.52 | Blue89 | hi |
| 16:58.04 | kolla | not sure.. I've sort of given up on wifi on the zaurus |
| 16:58.26 | kolla | it works fine with ancient sharp images and very old OZ images |
| 16:58.47 | Blue89 | me too, but there is nearly nothing I can do with it without either wiifi or some emulators, it is a bit of a waste to give up on wifi |
| 16:58.48 | kolla | maybe it will work better again now with 2.6-kernels :) |
| 16:58.49 | mimecar | kolla: what're your doing ? |
| 16:59.18 | kolla | just complaining about my prism2 cards not working well with my collie |
| 16:59.43 | mimecar | what's the model ? |
| 16:59.54 | kolla | collie? |
| 17:00.02 | mimecar | not, the wifi card |
| 17:00.24 | kolla | the cards are d-link dfc-650W, and smc ez connect |
| 17:00.33 | mimecar | ok |
| 17:00.38 | kolla | the d-link works somewhat better than the smc |
| 17:00.44 | mimecar | I have the dlink 660w and works ok |
| 17:01.02 | mimecar | do OZ detect card insertion ? |
| 17:01.02 | Blue89 | I have a planex broadlanner, which is apparently cooperating now |
| 17:01.14 | kolla | if I run sharp rom it works fine, but with OZ the signal level is like.. the half or so |
| 17:01.39 | mimecar | with the same access point ? |
| 17:01.43 | kolla | and I can stand 2 meters away from the AP and see the signal level jump up and down |
| 17:01.59 | kolla | mimecar: no, tried with a bunchload of APs, it doesnt really matter |
| 17:02.21 | mimecar | did you update the system ? |
| 17:02.48 | Blue89 | I can't reallytry it with any other networks, because I don't know how to get a list of networks in range from the terminal |
| 17:03.05 | mimecar | Blue89: do you use opie or gpe ? |
| 17:03.14 | Blue89 | gpe, but I put E on it |
| 17:03.29 | mimecar | gpe don't have a search applet |
| 17:03.32 | mimecar | only opie |
| 17:04.44 | Blue89 | not even a terminal-based one? |
| 17:04.59 | mimecar | I haven't find it |
| 17:05.43 | Blue89 | btw, my card was connecting to my neighbor's network instead of mine, which means that it cares more about alhpabetical order of the ssid name than it does about signal strength |
| 17:06.02 | mimecar | do you know your essid name, aren't you ? |
| 17:06.04 | Blue89 | therefore I know it connects to at leas t one other network |
| 17:06.13 | Blue89 | I know mine |
| 17:06.29 | mimecar | then, you can use networks app to configure the wifi |
| 17:06.34 | mimecar | on the settings tab |
| 17:06.49 | Blue89 | but if I ever want to get on wifi at the krispy kreme or something like that I don't know the network name if it isn't posted |
| 17:07.17 | mimecar | have you ask on the OESF forums ? |
| 17:07.58 | mimecar | www.oesf.org |
| 17:08.08 | mimecar | it's a forum with all related zaurus subject on it |
| 17:25.32 | Blue89 | mimecar, they told me in another channel that I can use kismet to find network names |
| 17:25.57 | mimecar | it's another option |
| 17:26.12 | Blue89 | that's like bringing a chainsaw to cut a peice of paper, but I guess either way it will work |
| 17:26.30 | mimecar | you should check iwconfig options |
| 17:26.41 | Blue89 | I have |
| 17:26.42 | mimecar | it's posible you can search networks |
| 17:26.49 | Blue89 | I didn't see any search options |
| 17:27.20 | kolla | my suspection is that the card doesnt receive enough power for some reason |
| 17:27.48 | mimecar | kolla: test it with the charger plug |
| 17:28.10 | kolla | already tried, no difference |
| 17:28.54 | kolla | I have tried everything there is to try over the years :) |
| 17:29.27 | mimecar | kolla: buy another wifi card :P |
| 17:29.50 | kolla | well, I did that too, and it only got worse :) |
| 17:30.14 | mimecar | launch the zaurus throught the windows |
| 17:30.17 | kolla | it doesnt really matter to me, I rather use the CF slot for microdrive |
| 17:30.17 | mimecar | that will work |
| 17:30.37 | kolla | and have it onine via usb |
| 17:30.41 | kolla | online |
| 17:34.44 | mimecar | with usbnet ? |
| 17:52.42 | kolla | yes |
| 17:53.00 | mimecar | is there a word editor on OZ ? |
| 17:53.11 | mimecar | I have some files with tables and I need edit it |
| 17:53.16 | kolla | pivot_root'ing to gentoo on the microdrive.. |
| 17:53.37 | Blue89 | mimecar, ipkg install abiword |
| 17:53.56 | mimecar | is bigger than my screen |
| 17:56.04 | Blue89 | ? |
| 17:56.12 | Blue89 | try rotating the screen |
| 17:56.14 | mimecar | I have a collie (240x320) |
| 17:56.23 | Blue89 | it may snap inro normal resolution |
| 17:56.28 | Blue89 | oh, nevermind :-( |
| 17:56.36 | mimecar | abiword UI is desiged for bigger resolution |
| 17:57.43 | Blue89 | is it possible to run x with a virtual resolution so it will shrink big programs? something like the pocket pc resolution mod apps? |
| 17:57.57 | Blue89 | that will look crappy but it may work |
| 17:58.38 | mimecar | if you use 240x320, can be crazy |
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| 18:30.36 | rvalles | 21:25:09 < rvalles> great way to finish the day |
| 18:30.37 | rvalles | 21:25:22 < rvalles> I broke a pin of the CF connector of my SL-5500 |
| 18:30.37 | rvalles | 21:25:45 < rvalles> otherwise, my zaurus is perfectly fine... |
| 18:30.37 | rvalles | 21:26:21 < rvalles> other than throwing it to the ground then jumping on it, what can I do? did you experience anything like that? |
| 18:30.38 | mimecar | hi rvalles |
| 18:30.41 | rvalles | hi mimecar :/ |
| 18:30.52 | rvalles | it probably happened already to somebody else |
| 18:31.07 | rvalles | I cannot be the first person who's idiot enough to end up like this |
| 18:31.23 | mimecar | rvalles: is the pin inside the zaurus ? |
| 18:31.25 | rvalles | mimecar: worst of all, I was testing 2.6 with locomo... |
| 18:31.27 | rvalles | mimecar: no |
| 18:31.34 | mimecar | on the CF side ? |
| 18:31.34 | rvalles | mimecar: I safely recovered it |
| 18:31.45 | rvalles | mimecar: it's on a small plastic box |
| 18:31.57 | rvalles | and now the zaurus' CF is missing a pin. |
| 18:32.27 | mimecar | the pin break is on the zaurus |
| 18:32.31 | mimecar | or is on the CF ? |
| 18:34.34 | rvalles | the broken pin was in the zaurus CF slot |
| 18:34.59 | rvalles | and is now outside the zaurus, I've stored it in a little box. |
| 18:35.14 | mimecar | ok |
| 18:35.35 | mimecar | you can disasemble the zaurus or create an adaptor |
| 18:36.36 | rvalles | create an adaptor? |
| 18:36.49 | rvalles | mimecar: @jabber |
| 18:36.51 | mimecar | yes, between the bad coneector and the CF |
| 18:38.45 | rvalles | weird. |
| 18:38.49 | rvalles | I think I'm fucked |
| 18:38.51 | rvalles | pretty much fucked. |
| 19:26.49 | kolla | rvalles: check what the pin is.. .there's a rather large chance that it was just yet another ground pin :) |
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| 23:31.53 | CoreDump|afk | umm, what was the name of the GPE ebook reader again? |