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| 03:36.43 | summatusmentis | has anyone else experienced the screen going dark after coming back from suspend on a 3200? |
| 03:37.16 | JustinP | sort of |
| 03:37.27 | JustinP | I have a 3000 and have had the screen take forever to come up |
| 03:37.42 | JustinP | I've also had it keep turning itself off....over...and....over.... |
| 03:42.43 | summatusmentis | really? that's annoying |
| 03:43.09 | summatusmentis | I'm just wondering if there's something I can do to fix this issue, it's bothersome, because it' means running the stylus around the lower left hand corner |
| 03:43.14 | summatusmentis | in order to find the lighting applet |
| 03:43.59 | JustinP | what are you running on it? (distro, version, etc) |
| 03:44.24 | summatusmentis | OZ, 3.5.4 |
| 03:44.34 | summatusmentis | I think the kernel is 2.6.17 |
| 03:45.00 | JustinP | hmmm....I'd try a newer release |
| 03:46.09 | summatusmentis | newer release? there's a newer release? |
| 03:46.41 | JustinP | like....3.5.4.1 or 3.5.4.2? |
| 03:46.50 | JustinP | you would also try upgrading |
| 03:46.54 | JustinP | (ipkg upgrade) |
| 03:47.09 | summatusmentis | oh, ok, yeah, I do have 3.5.4.1, I was mistaken |
| 03:48.05 | JustinP | you can try editing the /etc/apm* scripts |
| 03:48.18 | JustinP | or the scripts in /etc/zaurusd |
| 03:48.33 | JustinP | or you could try building a newer release....or trying angstrom (although it's not done yet) |
| 03:49.08 | summatusmentis | I've thought about angstrom, but I'm paranoid about 'beta' software |
| 03:49.37 | summatusmentis | which is why I'm running gentoo :-P |
| 03:49.38 | JustinP | sure |
| 03:49.56 | JustinP | gentoo is not beta unless you're running ~arch |
| 03:50.02 | summatusmentis | oh, I need to setup OE on this machine, I've been so busy getting gentoo where I wanted it |
| 03:50.09 | JustinP | and gentoo's upgrade path is so damn easier than any other distro ;-) |
| 03:50.19 | summatusmentis | that's true, it's just more 'cutting edge' than debian testing |
| 03:50.27 | JustinP | which is a good thing, IMHO |
| 03:50.58 | summatusmentis | no no, I don't disagree, it's just daunting for a someone coming from the binary world of .deb |
| 03:51.47 | summatusmentis | there weren't 3.5.4.2 packages built and released for all models were there? |
| 03:51.48 | JustinP | heh |
| 03:52.06 | JustinP | I really don't know....I haven't used the releases since I set up OE |
| 03:52.22 | summatusmentis | lol, so you just build the .dev image every now and again? |
| 03:52.25 | JustinP | and I tend to customize my install.... |
| 03:52.49 | JustinP | although my installs always tend to have strange problems too...like remounting / ro |
| 03:52.55 | JustinP | (after a while) |
| 03:53.06 | summatusmentis | that would bother me |
| 03:53.10 | JustinP | actually, I'm still running .oz354x as my base install |
| 03:53.24 | summatusmentis | oh really? |
| 03:53.29 | JustinP | yep |
| 03:53.46 | JustinP | I keep trying angstrom with loopback images and it keeps failing the "working" test |
| 03:53.56 | summatusmentis | hrm... I've been meaning to setup OE |
| 03:54.09 | JustinP | (like wifi working...although it could be because some dingo didn't include the wifi stuff in the images) |
| 03:54.18 | JustinP | mostly it works, though |
| 03:54.26 | JustinP | I haven't had a chance to try it again in a while |
| 03:54.39 | summatusmentis | building on a machine w/ 768Mb Ram, compiling lots of things takes a while |
| 03:54.58 | summatusmentis | oh, I forgot about loopback images |
| 03:55.07 | summatusmentis | does angstrom provide those? |
| 03:55.18 | JustinP | "provide"? |
| 03:55.24 | JustinP | nobody provides them, you set them up yourself |
| 03:55.41 | JustinP | http://pear.reversefold.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=zaurus:loopbackimages |
| 03:55.46 | JustinP | easy as pie |
| 03:56.38 | summatusmentis | I seem to remember downloading one from OZ when I was playing with them on my collie |
| 03:57.31 | JustinP | perhaps hentges made some, yes |
| 03:57.48 | summatusmentis | then using altboot to 'make it boot' or something, option 8 maybe? |
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| 03:58.17 | JustinP | something like that |
| 03:58.22 | JustinP | yeah, collie sux for space |
| 03:59.57 | summatusmentis | it looks as though OZ has finally been put to rest |
| 04:00.24 | Zero_Chaos | yes, and angstrom has no wifi so it is useless for me :-) |
| 04:00.52 | JustinP | "none"? I'm sure it's working for some people |
| 04:01.10 | JustinP | I don't think it's getting installed by default |
| 04:01.20 | Zero_Chaos | correct |
| 04:01.28 | Zero_Chaos | nothing wifi related at all |
| 04:01.37 | Zero_Chaos | except the freaking orinoco drivers |
| 04:01.57 | JustinP | well, built an image with the wifi stuff |
| 04:02.23 | JustinP | I'm planning on trying it |
| 04:02.23 | JustinP | or you could just download the ipks |
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| 04:05.14 | summatusmentis | http://www.openzaurus.org/wordpress/2007/04/26/openzaurus-time-is-over-long-live-angstrom/ |
| 04:09.16 | summatusmentis | I just noticed, in english, Angstrom can be split into two words, Angst and Rom... interesting |
| 04:09.27 | Zero_Chaos | LoL |
| 04:09.37 | Zero_Chaos | that describes my feeling last I installed it |
| 04:10.33 | summatusmentis | hopefully that fixes itself, as the rom matures, and has a release |
| 04:10.44 | Zero_Chaos | no doubt it will |
| 04:10.52 | Zero_Chaos | it looks like it has potential |
| 04:12.47 | summatusmentis | there's no wifi stuff installed by default in Angstrom? |
| 04:13.05 | Zero_Chaos | not unless the device has builtin wifi |
| 04:13.18 | summatusmentis | mm |
| 04:13.27 | summatusmentis | JustinP: is there an OE branch for Angstrom? |
| 04:13.38 | JustinP | summatusmentis: not its own, no, .dev |
| 04:13.56 | summatusmentis | oh, ok |
| 04:24.39 | hvontres|zzZZzz | summatusmentis: I think hrw just put in a fix to add the wifi stuff by default. It should make it into the next set of images |
| 04:27.37 | summatusmentis | hvontres|home: that's good to know, thanks |
| 04:28.12 | summatusmentis | I probably won't get OE setup for a couple of weeks, i've got ap tests and stuff coming up :-/ |
| 04:29.41 | hvontres|home | summatusmentis: which ones? |
| 04:30.01 | summatusmentis | AP Calc AB, AP Stats, AP English Lit(I think it's lit, I'm not sure) |
| 04:30.22 | hvontres|home | sounds like fun :) |
| 04:30.53 | summatusmentis | heh, that stats won't be bad, the calc shouldn't be terrible, but I'm not gonna do as well as I should, and the english is just gonna blow |
| 04:31.08 | JustinP | calc wasn't bad for me |
| 04:31.37 | JustinP | I just threw away the formula my teachers had been giving me to 2 years and wrote what I felt like and I aced the lit ;-) |
| 04:32.14 | summatusmentis | well, I guess that's one way to do it, but I'm just not sure... I guess the prompts are wide open, and we've been writing to specific books all year long |
| 04:32.27 | summatusmentis | that, and I didn't read half of them |
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| 04:46.19 | summatusmentis | is there a way to set up like a kiosk mode for the Z, in order to provide DAP/PMP capabilities? |
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| 19:27.33 | TheFool | just looked at the home page. Am I reading this right? Collie is going to be able to run Angstrom? |
| 19:28.35 | carbonfreeze | Does angstrom-spitz 20070422 perform seppuku on ipkg upgrade? |
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| 21:36.04 | polyonymous | is there anywhere recent kexec ipk for oz available? |
| 21:36.54 | CoreDump|home | it didn't change in a looooong time so the one in the feeds should be ok |
| 21:37.24 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, "polyonymous: kexec got mainline in .21, under different syscall # than was before. userspace needs update too. maybe that's an issue." |
| 21:37.35 | CoreDump|home | oops |
| 21:37.38 | polyonymous | (that's quote from psokolovky in #angstrom) |
| 21:38.01 | polyonymous | and I can't build it here anymore, since oz went out of .dev... |
| 21:38.02 | CoreDump|home | he is right of course |
| 21:38.24 | CoreDump|home | OZ is compiled using the .oz354x branch |
| 21:38.33 | polyonymous | Yes, I didn't doubt it. I'm looking for a solution. I don't want to ruin my current OZ setup to try it. |
| 21:38.35 | CoreDump|home | I don't have a build-env for that ATM |
| 21:38.49 | polyonymous | Neither I do :) |
| 21:38.54 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 21:39.01 | polyonymous | Do you have any idea where can I get kexec-tools binaries? |
| 21:39.17 | polyonymous | I'm at the point of trying to build it on Z, if I have toolchain (which I'm not sure I do) |
| 21:39.25 | CoreDump|home | not really, I never use the public feeds w/ my devices |
| 21:39.37 | polyonymous | neither I do :))) |
| 21:39.45 | CoreDump|home | =D |
| 21:40.09 | CoreDump|home | I take it you tried compiling it from .dev? |
| 21:40.37 | polyonymous | There's no OZ in dev anymore, and I doubt compiling it with angstrom setup would do. |
| 21:40.43 | polyonymous | with all this abi stuff. |
| 21:41.11 | polyonymous | I'm trying to try angstrom in chroot on my OZ handheld... |
| 21:42.05 | polyonymous | root@pangolin:~/src/kexec-tools-testing-20070330# ./configure |
| 21:42.05 | polyonymous | checking build system type... armv5tel-unknown-linux-gnu |
| 21:42.05 | polyonymous | checking host system type... armv5tel-unknown-linux-gnu |
| 21:42.05 | polyonymous | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.09 | CoreDump|home | for which machine do you need the ipk? |
| 21:42.13 | polyonymous | spitz |
| 21:45.34 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: I'll see if my akita setup builds and let you know. It'll take a day or so in any case |
| 21:45.57 | polyonymous | I'm trying to build it on HH now. Just pulled the patch from the tree.. :) |
| 21:46.05 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 21:46.12 | polyonymous | I'm desperate, you know :) |
| 21:46.29 | polyonymous | damn. C compiler can't create executables :) |
| 21:46.37 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
| 21:47.03 | polyonymous | crt1.o no such file or directory. strange. |
| 21:47.06 | CoreDump|home | the blasted openmoko image is compiling all day sigh |
| 21:47.30 | polyonymous | uhh.. on what host? |
| 21:47.50 | CoreDump|home | local |
| 21:47.55 | polyonymous | :))))) |
| 21:48.01 | polyonymous | being what? |
| 21:48.11 | CoreDump|home | a notebook |
| 21:48.15 | polyonymous | But please, don't give me the hostname other than localhost :) |
| 21:48.16 | CoreDump|home | c2d |
| 21:48.19 | polyonymous | ah. |
| 21:48.48 | polyonymous | haven't tried parallel builds yet... |
| 21:48.53 | CoreDump|home | on single-core the machine would be unusable with a bitbake run in the background |
| 21:49.19 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: it runs single-thread so I can use the notebook for other stuff as well |
| 21:49.34 | polyonymous | Yeah, that's a good thing too :) |
| 21:50.17 | polyonymous | well, I do not have working toolchain on my Z... that sucks :) |
| 21:50.44 | CoreDump|home | compiling on an embedded device sucks anyway =) |
| 21:51.03 | polyonymous | well, just kexec-tools wouldn't be a big deal with working toolchain. |
| 21:51.09 | CoreDump|home | true |
| 21:52.09 | polyonymous | of course I have an option of mv-ing my whole setup into subdir, reflashing angstrom kernel and booting it.. But I really can't do it, because with my insomnia having no ebook to read in bed is awful :) |
| 21:52.54 | polyonymous | I do not fancy the idea of checking out .oz branch and building it either, but I think that's the fastest I can do. |
| 21:53.47 | CoreDump|home | you should try one of the portrait Zs for e-book reading (or even an iPAQ) |
| 21:53.57 | CoreDump|home | they are _perfect_ for that |
| 21:54.10 | polyonymous | I only have one Z :) And I'm quite satisfied with it. |
| 21:54.19 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
| 21:54.23 | polyonymous | Especially with the ability to read ebooks BOTH in portrait and landscape. |
| 21:54.31 | CoreDump|home | right |
| 21:54.44 | polyonymous | There's nothing like putting clamshell on your chest and relax while reading :) |
| 21:54.47 | CoreDump|home | I'd really like to checkout an SL-6000 |
| 21:55.27 | CoreDump|home | I've been told the 6000's display is even better than the SL-Cxx00 ones |
| 21:55.57 | polyonymous | ah... No, I like clamshell. |
| 21:55.57 | CoreDump|home | me, too really. Just not for ebook reading |
| 21:56.03 | polyonymous | Well, I don't use keyboard much, but I feel sooo uncomfortable when I don't have one... :) |
| 21:56.09 | CoreDump|home | btw, got a decend source for good ebooks? |
| 21:56.36 | polyonymous | You can portrait clamshell... |
| 21:56.43 | polyonymous | Well, I mostly read from gutenberg |
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| 21:56.59 | polyonymous | and when I can find something on p2p... |
| 21:57.05 | polyonymous | But, you know, what's "good"? :) |
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| 22:18.41 | polyonymous | checking out .oz354x now... |
| 22:19.44 | polyonymous | baking kexec-tools... :) |
| 22:20.23 | carbonfreeze | anyone using Angstrom-spitz 20070422? Notice any major breakage? I was having ipkg upgrade issues with 20070401 and had to move back to OZ3541, just curious if 20070422 is usable |
| 22:22.02 | polyonymous | instead of fixing issues? :) |
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| 23:22.19 | polyonymous | CoreDump|home, I've built kexec-tools from .oz* branch ;-) |
| 23:22.33 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: excelent |
| 23:22.49 | polyonymous | just to let you know I'm not going to pester you for ipk :) |
| 23:22.51 | CoreDump|home | could you talk to hrw so he uploads it into the feeds? |
| 23:22.58 | CoreDump|home | polyonymous: heh |
| 23:23.26 | polyonymous | I can, but I really doubt there are many people who are willing and able to handle it. |
| 23:25.21 | polyonymous | hmm... not that the newlybuilt kexec works... Well, having build environment it's easier to think about the solution. |
| 23:25.57 | polyonymous | ah, of course... .oz* has older kernel... |
| 23:36.17 | polyonymous | at least I managed to keep an idiot (myself) busy before it's time to sleep :) |
| 23:37.20 | CoreDump|home | =) |