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| 05:49.16 | daurn | anyone done an emergency 3 restore on a zaurus C3200 (Fn+D+M) |
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| 06:12.31 | MindChild | why |
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| 06:34.25 | daurn | cause I need to do one |
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| 06:49.03 | MindChild | Need some different help. I only have a window XP machine to connect my SL-5500 to. It is part of a domain so I cant enable internet connection sharing. Is there a more direct way to get internet access over USB? |
| 06:49.59 | NAbyss | MindChild: Buy a USB network adaptor? |
| 06:50.39 | daurn | NAbyss: hello! |
| 06:50.43 | daurn | need your help |
| 06:50.57 | daurn | you on mobile or home |
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| 18:04.45 | Laibsch | ~akita |
| 18:04.47 | ibot | hmm... akita is the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog |
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| 18:18.54 | P1R0 | does the libgaim msn protocol works 'cause it gives me a kill signal??? at my poodle |
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| 19:25.31 | summatusmentis | P1R0_: there ahve been a lot of issues w/ the msn plugin in gaim, from what I understand |
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| 19:52.15 | summatusmentis | Just as a shout out to all the devs, I typed an outline in calculus class this morning in abiword on my 3200 |
| 19:52.28 | hrw | and? |
| 19:52.48 | summatusmentis | worked very well |
| 19:52.59 | summatusmentis | saved my life for AP english |
| 19:53.19 | summatusmentis | so, keep up the good work hrw, and all the others |
| 19:53.36 | hrw | thx |
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| 20:00.56 | summatusmentis | P1R0: you saw my message earlier? msn plugin, iirc, has had a lot of issues |
| 20:02.26 | hrw | msn plugin? think of it as 'broken' |
| 20:25.25 | JustinP | what bluetooth adapters are people using with Linux? |
| 20:41.07 | JustinP | would be nice to know if any of the newer ones work....there is only one list of supposedly working devices and newer ones seem not to be listed |
| 20:41.19 | JustinP | would be nice ot have BT2.0 support |
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| 22:14.12 | CoreDump|home | re |
| 22:14.49 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: I don't suppose you use bluetooth with your Z(s)? |
| 22:15.24 | CoreDump|home | I did in the past but mostly for fun. Nothing serious |
| 22:15.50 | JustinP | I was thinking of trying to use A2DP (Stereo headset) but haven't found anything conclusive... |
| 22:16.02 | JustinP | no idea which adapter may or may not work for it in Linux, etc |
| 22:16.04 | CoreDump|home | that I never tried |
| 22:16.40 | JustinP | well, seems like it's still in work-around-esque mode |
| 22:16.47 | JustinP | bluetooth-alsa project purports to support a2dp |
| 22:16.54 | CoreDump|home | I used a BT mouse on Akita, and IIRC used a BT dongle to connect via a BT -> LAN gateway to the internat |
| 22:16.58 | JustinP | but I have no idea if the dongle needs specific support for it |
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| 22:17.21 | CoreDump|home | can't help you with that :\ |
| 22:17.28 | CoreDump|home | would be interesting for neo1973 tho |
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| 22:20.17 | JustinP | http://www.elfa.se/elfa-bin/setpage.pl?http://www.elfa.se/elfa-bin/dyndok.pl?lang=dk&vat=0&dok=11570.htm apparently works in Zaurii and is Bluetooth 2.0/USB 2.0 |
| 22:20.27 | JustinP | (of course the Z is USB 1.1, but that's beside the point) |
| 22:20.41 | JustinP | I kind fo doubt you need a2dp HW support....but then again who knows? |
| 22:21.05 | CoreDump|home | hmmm |
| 22:21.10 | CoreDump|home | I dunno |
| 22:21.17 | CoreDump|home | never thought about it |
| 22:23.27 | Laibsch | CoreDump|home: Am I correct to assume that altboot is not working in angstrom right now? Is there a future for altboot or has it been outlived? |
| 22:23.32 | Laibsch | in 2.6 kernel that is |
| 22:23.46 | CoreDump|home | oh there is a future |
| 22:23.56 | CoreDump|home | but currently my time is rather limited |
| 22:24.08 | Laibsch | yes, I understand |
| 22:24.09 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: was working on it ;) |
| 22:24.19 | Laibsch | I was thinking aboutt the general direction |
| 22:24.40 | Laibsch | CoreDump|home: But he was working on kexec, right? I thought that with kexec altboot is not needed anymore? |
| 22:25.00 | CoreDump|home | Laibsch: kexec is still needed |
| 22:25.13 | CoreDump|home | (as the Z's kernel has a fixed CMDLINE) |
| 22:25.18 | Laibsch | no, the other way round |
| 22:25.28 | Laibsch | I was wondering if altboot will still be needed |
| 22:25.38 | Laibsch | But seeing your earlier answer I assume yes |
| 22:25.42 | CoreDump|home | ahh yes |
| 22:25.54 | CoreDump|home | altboot can optionally use kexec after hvontres|poodle changes |
| 22:26.02 | JustinP | ? |
| 22:26.10 | Laibsch | so what will it add to plain kexec? |
| 22:26.12 | JustinP | altboot has been working fine with kexec for me for a long time |
| 22:26.23 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: but you hacked your own scripts |
| 22:26.25 | summatusmentis | how does angstrom boot, if not w/ altboot? |
| 22:26.42 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: I did? I'm using the kexec option in altboot...I just turned off the disabling |
| 22:26.53 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: haha |
| 22:26.55 | Laibsch | JustinP: I still have to understand your mail. A doc on this would surely be nice. I want to get altboot functionality back. It was a lifesaver. |
| 22:26.55 | JustinP | I like how I choose a kernel, then choose an image |
| 22:27.01 | CoreDump|home | that was never intended to work lol |
| 22:27.14 | CoreDump|home | good if it does for you =D |
| 22:27.15 | JustinP | works just fine |
| 22:27.20 | JustinP | Laibsch: which mail? |
| 22:27.29 | Laibsch | in the mailing list |
| 22:27.48 | Laibsch | you replied to my question of how you got different images to boot on the same machine |
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| 22:28.11 | JustinP | ah...ok ;-) |
| 22:28.48 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: altboot just intercepts the normal init boot-up of the distribution and lets the user do some funky stuff (like kexec, change the rootfs on the fly, boot loop-images etc) but your distro could just as well boot w/o any altboot installed |
| 22:29.40 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: ok, so there's not really a bootloader? or does OZ package a bootloader, and altboot? |
| 22:29.47 | summatusmentis | s/OZ/angstrom |
| 22:30.05 | CoreDump|home | the real bootloader is on (sort-of) read-only ROM |
| 22:30.39 | CoreDump|home | the bootloader boots the kernel, which mounts the flash drive and runs /sbin/init |
| 22:30.40 | summatusmentis | hence the flashing |
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| 22:32.24 | CoreDump|home | the bootloader is basically the "BIOS" of the Z and is read-only AFAIK. Or the maintenace menu is r/o, or both....whatever =) |
| 22:32.44 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: ok, I'm lost |
| 22:32.50 | summatusmentis | whatever, the point is, my Z will boot right? |
| 22:32.57 | CoreDump|home | of course |
| 22:33.03 | CoreDump|home | altboot is 100% optional |
| 22:33.12 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: My current addition to altboot is a script that looks in the /mmcblk0p1/boot and lists available zImage files and allows the user to pick which one to boot. |
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| 22:33.41 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: ok, thats all I'm worried about at this point, building an angstrom image for the first tie |
| 22:33.58 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: unfortunately, it still requires custom zImage files until the kexec can twiddle the cmdline |
| 22:35.32 | JustinP | (bluetooth) In the spec PDF of the adapter I linked above the audio protocols (SCO, eSCO) are listed in the bluetooth stack section. I take this to mean that the bluetooth stack implements the protocols and therefore if I can get a stack that supports it the dongle should work. |
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| 22:56.00 | JustinP | Belkin F8T013 is BT 2.0, USB 2.0 and apparently works with NSLU2 |
| 22:56.07 | JustinP | and I can find it to buy :-0 |
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