| 00:09.30 | summatusmentis | ok, I know this is a stupid question, where do I set preferences, like ls being colored all the time, and stuff like that |
| 00:09.42 | summatusmentis | I set it in /etc/skel/.bashrc but it didn't do much |
| 00:14.54 | CoreDump|home | the retarded busybox shell does not honor rcfiles |
| 00:16.32 | summatusmentis | so... I need to install bash instead, and override busybox somehow? |
| 00:16.50 | CoreDump|home | that would work, yes |
| 00:17.14 | summatusmentis | what do you do? |
| 00:17.31 | summatusmentis | just deal? or is busybox really crucial? can I remove it completely? |
| 00:17.32 | CoreDump|home | install bash into your rootfs ( not an external mountpoint! ) and change your shell to bash in /etc/passwd or symlink /bin/sh to /bin/bash |
| 00:17.42 | CoreDump|home | you can't remove BB |
| 00:17.43 | summatusmentis | ok |
| 00:17.55 | summatusmentis | ok, thanks |
| 00:17.59 | CoreDump|home | np |
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| 00:18.34 | summatusmentis | are other things crippled? should I replace other things as well? I've done vim |
| 00:19.24 | CoreDump|home | I can't think of any ATM =) |
| 00:19.42 | summatusmentis | alright, thnks |
| 00:19.43 | summatusmentis | thanks** |
| 00:22.38 | summatusmentis | ok, I thought that worked... I'll sumlink it |
| 00:22.41 | summatusmentis | symlink it |
| 00:24.04 | CoreDump|home | if you didn't install it right into the rootfs, you _will_ hose your system for good |
| 00:24.35 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: I installed it to rootfs, I'm on a 3200, I've got a 1Gb / |
| 00:25.22 | summatusmentis | seems like busybox is overriding it... or something |
| 00:25.37 | summatusmentis | vim is acting like BB's vi, and I'm still not getting a colored ls |
| 00:28.56 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: it says BB is a dependency of task-boot, is it that crucial? I removed dropbear, and it was a dependency as well |
| 00:29.26 | CoreDump|home | do _not_ remove BB |
| 00:29.41 | summatusmentis | ok |
| 00:29.55 | CoreDump|home | it will FUBAR your system as it provides many system binaries |
| 00:30.13 | summatusmentis | fair enough, I just wasn't fure |
| 00:30.15 | summatusmentis | sure** |
| 00:32.32 | CoreDump|home | well, there should probably be a non-BB rootfs for HDD/MD models |
| 00:32.57 | summatusmentis | I was just thinking the same thing, hrm |
| 00:33.24 | CoreDump|home | maybe I'll make one when the SL-C3200 arrives =) |
| 00:33.45 | summatusmentis | you'll be my savior forever, but it means i'm gonna have to reflash :-P |
| 00:34.25 | CoreDump|home | installing onto MD != flashing |
| 00:34.47 | summatusmentis | MD? what is that |
| 00:34.55 | CoreDump|home | MicroDrive |
| 00:35.05 | summatusmentis | ok, not reflash, just reimage the MD |
| 00:35.46 | summatusmentis | sorry, I just get used to using the term 'flashing' |
| 00:36.55 | CoreDump|home | I'll probably provide loop-images as well, so deleting the old image is not required |
| 00:37.34 | summatusmentis | it's not terrible, just means I'd be reinstalling everything, whatever |
| 00:44.31 | summatusmentis | the only issue would be fragmentation of images, which is what people didn't want, hence the reason for not supporting collie at first |
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| 01:19.48 | CoreDump|home | I'll probably build the image from the old .oz354x branch |
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| 19:41.51 | summatusmentis | WIll someone help me get my wifi up again? I had it working last night, on my symbol spectrum24 wifi card, but today, for some reason, it's not working |
| 19:41.51 | summatusmentis | the light on the card is blinking(just the steady, not connected to any wap blink), and the module 'orinoco' is loaded, but it won't connect |
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| 21:59.28 | summatusmentis | is anyone familiar with the location of the 'icon' config files? I'd like to change the visible hierarchy |
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| 22:21.26 | CoreDump|home | you mean the desktop menu? |
| 22:21.53 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: Wb. |
| 22:22.19 | CoreDump|home | thanks! |
| 22:22.49 | CoreDump|home | ~borzoi |
| 22:22.51 | ibot | somebody said borzoi was the Sharp SL-C3100, or a dog (see http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/borzoi.htm ) |
| 22:23.01 | CoreDump|home | ~sl-c3200 |
| 22:23.10 | CoreDump|home | ~terrier |
| 22:23.13 | ibot | i guess terrier is Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200, or a dog |
| 22:23.16 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 22:23.46 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: yeah, sort of, there's a series of 'folder' icons on the GPE desktop |
| 22:23.55 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: Could you do me a favor? Could you flash a recent angstrom console image on "your" poodle and see if the screen comes back after resume? I am trying to see if the problem I am seeing is limited to pxa250's only or also affects pxa255's |
| 22:23.59 | summatusmentis | then programs inside of those 'folders', I'd like to move them around |
| 22:24.32 | hvontres|poodle | !oebug !2120 |
| 22:24.33 | cdbot2 | * * Bug !2120, Status: InvalidBugId |
| 22:24.37 | hvontres|poodle | !oebug 2120 |
| 22:24.39 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2120, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-17 10:06 |
| 22:24.40 | cdbot2 | * * hvontres(AT)gmail.com: Display Corruption in 2.6.20 Kernel on poodle after resume |
| 22:24.41 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120 |
| 22:25.03 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: I don't have the poodle here ATM sorry |
| 22:25.16 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: np. |
| 22:25.19 | summatusmentis | ~poodle |
| 22:25.21 | ibot | poodle is probably sl-5600/b500, or a dog |
| 22:25.54 | summatusmentis | hvontres|poodle: I've got a 5500 here I can try, but that may not be what you're looking for |
| 22:25.55 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: they sort the icons based on some meta-data (SECTION maybe?) in their .desktop file |
| 22:26.12 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: ok, where are the .desktop files located? |
| 22:26.26 | hvontres|poodle | summatusmentis: no, this seems to be limited to 5600 only. |
| 22:26.28 | CoreDump|home | find /usr -name "*.desktop*" |
| 22:26.43 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: ah, ok |
| 22:26.50 | summatusmentis | hvontres|poodle: alright, just thought I'd offer |
| 22:26.58 | CoreDump|home | time to setup a spitz build env |
| 22:27.00 | hvontres|poodle | summatusmentis: appreciate it :) |
| 22:27.22 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: are you running some kind of OZ on your spitz? |
| 22:27.27 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: so, did you order that 3200 already? |
| 22:27.41 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: it should be here tomorrow =) |
| 22:27.47 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: Angstrom |
| 22:27.54 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: lucky dog...:) |
| 22:27.54 | MindChild | Anyone know what the last version of the Sharp kernel was (2.4)? |
| 22:27.55 | summatusmentis | so, sort of |
| 22:28.04 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: thanks |
| 22:28.07 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: yeah =) |
| 22:28.17 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: sure, why? |
| 22:28.19 | CoreDump|home | MindChild: 2.4.18 IIRC |
| 22:28.41 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: I was wondering what to use as base for my images, Angstrom or the last OZ sources |
| 22:28.59 | MindChild | CoreDump|home: gracias |
| 22:29.13 | hvontres|poodle | MindChild: 2.4.18 for 5500/5600, 2.4.20 for clamshells I think...both heavily patched by Sharp and their lackeys and appearently a bit of a nightmare to fix :) |
| 22:29.31 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: I was about to say =) The clamshells had a newer kernel |
| 22:29.40 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: the images you were talking about yesterday, w/ the real utils vs. busybox? or the hentges images? |
| 22:29.54 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: that would be the same ;) |
| 22:30.13 | CoreDump|home | how well is Angstrom running on your spitz? |
| 22:30.21 | summatusmentis | lol, oh, I guess I missed that |
| 22:30.33 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: much better than 3.5.4.1 was |
| 22:31.09 | CoreDump|home | really? |
| 22:31.18 | CoreDump|home | hmm so Angstrom it is then |
| 22:31.20 | summatusmentis | it seems to be more stable, I was having minor resuming issues w/ OZ, the screen would drop to 0% brightness from resume, and I don't have small font issues after I reset it |
| 22:31.30 | summatusmentis | yeah, it's just the little things |
| 22:31.52 | MindChild | hvontres|poodle: Is there a project with sane patches to the kernel, keeping it compatible, but fixing such things? |
| 22:33.31 | CoreDump|home | MindChild: I don't think so. SHARP kernels are a royal PITA to fix / maintain. |
| 22:33.56 | MindChild | Well, Im diving in |
| 22:34.01 | MindChild | wish me luck |
| 22:34.06 | hvontres|poodle | MindChild: good luck...:) |
| 22:34.59 | hvontres|poodle | MindChild: from my experience with both the sharp kernels and RP's 2.6 kernels, I must say the 2.6 ones have been much better behaved... |
| 22:35.40 | MindChild | Ive tried the 2.6 kernel all last week, and it gave nothing but compatibility problems. Lots of apps just "Illegal Instruction" |
| 22:36.13 | CoreDump|home | MindChild: the code quality of sharps "patches" is so bad, even someone w/o C knowledge sees it right away |
| 22:36.25 | MindChild | crap |
| 22:36.52 | CoreDump|home | right |
| 22:36.55 | hvontres|poodle | MindChild: plus a lot of the sharp-specific stuff that was patched into the 2.4 series has now made it to mainline |
| 22:37.05 | CoreDump|home | it is nicknamed "2.4-crappix" |
| 22:37.22 | hvontres|poodle | MindChild: you might be better off trying to re-compile the programs, if you can |
| 22:37.36 | MindChild | That may be an option |
| 22:37.55 | MindChild | How well does the stock kernel.org kernel match up to the embeddix source? |
| 22:39.01 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: the only thing close I'm seeing is the Category meta-data, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything |
| 22:39.20 | CoreDump|home | category sounds about right |
| 22:40.00 | summatusmentis | ok, maybe I'm unfamiliar w/ the titles, is there a way to look these up? |
| 22:40.07 | CoreDump|home | copy the Category field of a "Settings/" app into .desktop of a Other/ app |
| 22:40.27 | CoreDump|home | summatusmentis: I dunno. You might wanna check the matchbox website for docs |
| 22:40.33 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: ok |