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05:39.11*** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | No new releases - we switched to Angstrom | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4/3.5.4.1 | Feed browser: http://openzaurus.org/feed-browser/ | feeds.openzaurus.org rotates through all available mirrors
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09:58.46*** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | No new releases - we switched to Angstrom | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4/3.5.4.1 | Feed browser: http://openzaurus.org/feed-browser/ | feeds.openzaurus.org rotates through all available mirrors
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11:46.46RomanMozNeed help! On Zaurus 3200 I didn't make fdisk and open zaurus  can't to be installed. Now I have message: kernel panic but QTopia I haven't
11:47.27RomanMozWhat can I do to rewrite bin image or to make fdisk
11:54.03AcTiVaTeProlly just like as on an SL-5500?
11:54.18AcTiVaTeJust put the needed files on an SD or CF and then start the flash procedure
11:57.50RomanMozWhich files is needed ? I have no an operating system now!
12:12.51AcTiVaTeRomanMoz: The files needed are most likely stated on either openzaurus.org or on the site for Angstrom
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12:40.45RomanMozCan anybody describe a Maintenance Screen of Zaurus 3200 ?
13:05.45RomanMozfrom japanese to english
13:07.22hrwRomanMoz: that one used to flashing?
13:07.50hrwthere are some infos in net, but you only need last option which is used to reflashing
13:08.18RomanMozThanks
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13:49.10RomanMozHow to open Diagnostic menu for Zaurus 3200?
14:10.11CoreDump|homehi
14:10.52CoreDump|homeRomanMoz: google is your friend
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17:36.10*** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | No new releases - we switched to Angstrom | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4/3.5.4.1 | Feed browser: http://openzaurus.org/feed-browser/ | feeds.openzaurus.org rotates through all available mirrors
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19:26.13ne0rolhi
19:27.08ne0rolI have zaurus 5500 (collie). I want to install OZ in my SD card (1GB). What do you recomend, a loop image or direct installation?
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19:27.27summatusmentisloop image
19:27.33ne0roland In which filesystem?
19:27.39ne0rolvfat or ext2 ?
19:27.58summatusmentisext2
19:28.22ne0rolok
19:28.40ne0roland is needed a swap partition?
19:28.55summatusmentisnot necessarilly, and i wouldn't swap on an SD card
19:29.12ne0rolok
19:29.14ne0rolthanks
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19:29.23mimecarhi
19:29.24summatusmentissure thing, I assume you know what you're doing?
19:29.27summatusmentishi mimecar
19:29.41ne0rolwhy not?
19:29.45ne0rol:-)
19:29.55ne0rolbuenas mimecar
19:29.58summatusmentislol
19:30.06mimecarhi ne0rol
19:30.18mimecarwhere're you from ?
19:30.24ne0rolbarcelona
19:30.29mimecarxDDD
19:30.30ne0roli'm from innerzaurus
19:30.35mimecarI know
19:30.38ne0rolmy nicj is hitz
19:30.44mimecarI must write a summary with all the people
19:30.50ne0roljeje
19:31.17ne0rolsummatusmentis: why you ask this?
19:31.30ne0rolit's "dangerous"?
19:31.59summatusmentisne0rol: no, no, not dangerous, just that some people need more help getting it done than others
19:32.07ne0rolok
19:32.14mimecarwhat's the subjet?
19:32.19summatusmentisloop images
19:32.31ne0rolit's not my first time summatusmentis
19:32.31ne0roljeje
19:32.33summatusmentisand root-on-sd for collie
19:32.33mimecaran interesting feature
19:32.45summatusmentisne0rol: ok, fair enough. Just checking :-P
19:32.53ne0rol:-P
19:33.25summatusmentismimecar: a necessary feature for collie :-D
19:33.28ne0rolsummatusmentis: I asked which is the best filesystem to the sd card
19:33.29mimecarI use fat
19:33.34ne0rolme too
19:33.42summatusmentisne0rol: true, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything
19:33.45kollaext3, actually
19:33.48ne0rolbecause I used vfat, never ext2
19:34.01summatusmentiswe get some newby people around here, so I usually try to be as helpful as possible
19:34.05ne0rolext3 with collie ?
19:34.06mimecarif you use fat, you can write on the card on windows
19:34.09kollayes
19:34.14summatusmentisand I'll give more information if I feel the person needs it
19:34.26ne0rolok ok
19:34.35ne0rolkolla: have you tried this?
19:34.42kollayes
19:34.50ne0rolmaybe ext3 is more slow
19:34.54summatusmentisI didn't mean that in any sort of derogatory sense, nothing against you at all ne0rol :-)
19:35.22kollait's been a while since I used SD at all, but yes, I did use ext3
19:35.24mimecarI think opie has some test
19:35.35ne0rolok, no problem summatusmentis, very thanks for the help ;-)
19:35.37mimecaryou can check velocity or system frequency
19:35.54ne0rolI use GPE, jeje
19:35.54kollaofficually un-smart, but I got tired of fsck
19:36.14ne0rolI think GPE is better than opie, what do you think?
19:36.17mimecarI'll use gpe when I can run it on spanish without problems
19:36.34ne0rolwhy do you want gpe on spanish?
19:36.40ne0rol:-P
19:36.41summatusmentisne0rol: GPE is much much better for what I use my Z for
19:36.59summatusmentisOPIE works better for PIM, and 'orthodox' pda usages
19:37.05ne0roli think GPE is more "linux" than opie
19:37.18ne0rolok
19:37.31mimecarne0rol: I need kopi on zaurus
19:37.47ne0rolwhat is kopi?
19:38.10mimecardo you know korganizer ?
19:38.15ne0rolyes
19:38.23summatusmentisKorganizer/PlatformIndependent
19:38.26mimecarkopi is the "opie version"
19:38.30ne0rolok
19:38.33mimecarmore or less, it can run on windows also
19:38.48summatusmentisthere's also KAPI(kaddressboo)
19:38.55summatusmentiskaddressbook*
19:38.59mimecaryes
19:39.01ne0rolbut, i think is possible to have GPE and opie libraries in the same system
19:39.08summatusmentisand there might be one more that actually works on the Z
19:39.18ne0rollike Gnome with QT aplications
19:39.41summatusmentisne0rol: it is, and I tried it once, but it didn't work out the way I wanted, and I didn't push it
19:39.47ne0rol(sorry if my english is a little poor..)
19:39.54ne0rolok
19:40.26summatusmentisne0rol: no, not at all, your english is better than some native english speakers :-P
19:40.37ne0roljaja
19:40.37mimecarne0rol: write here is a good method to learn english
19:40.43ne0rolof corse
19:40.46mimecaror get some "corrections"
19:40.47ne0rolthanks summatusmentis
19:41.28summatusmentisne0rol: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/OPIE_and_GPE
19:41.31mimecarone question
19:41.36summatusmentissort of what you were describing, but not quite
19:41.40ne0rolsummatusmentis: very interesting, thanks :-)
19:41.46mimecarshould I install opie on the zarus if I'm on exams :P ?
19:42.00summatusmentismimecar: are you using your Z for exams?
19:42.11mimecaron exams not
19:42.26mimecarbut I'm using it to sort my time
19:42.32ne0rolmimecar: I also have exams
19:42.40mimecarI've a new c1000 with the original rom
19:42.41ne0roland yesterdey I installed gpe
19:42.43ne0roljeje
19:42.46mimecarand some programs are told
19:42.56ne0rolwhat are you studing mimecar ?
19:43.05mimecarxDDD
19:43.10summatusmentismimecar: some programs are told? what do you mean?
19:43.25mimecarI don't know on english ;)
19:43.29ne0rol"old"?
19:43.56mimecarsummatusmentis: qpdf for example
19:44.07summatusmentistold is like, spoke in a sense, the past tense of tell
19:44.09mimecaron c1000, I can only use it on vertical screen
19:45.09summatusmentisso because of this, you're wondering if opie would work better?
19:45.45mimecari want use openzaurus and, on a near future, angstrom
19:46.17mimecari know webs related with OZ, but I don't know related with original rom
19:46.39summatusmentispersonally, I'd use angstrom
19:46.53ne0rolmimecar: I'm writting a little text about zaurus (collie). If you want when I finishes it, you can put it in innerzaurus.
19:46.59ne0rol(If not this duplicate)
19:47.03mimecarthere's not problem
19:47.04ne0roldabax.net/node/44
19:47.20mimecarsummatusmentis: I need some time to work with angstrom
19:47.27summatusmentiswhat is innerzaurus?
19:47.59mimecara spanish zaurus site
19:48.16summatusmentismimecar: of course, that makes sense. I'd stick w/ GPE for now, since you're using your zaurus for exams. Once exams are over, then I'd test out the other versions you're considering
19:48.22mimecarwe're translating doc to spanish, write some guide...
19:48.25summatusmentisspanish zaurus site? cool
19:48.54mimecari'm not using zaurus for exams, currently i only use kopi and mp3 player
19:49.02summatusmentiswhat level of spanish? pretty advanced?
19:49.09summatusmentismimecar: I thought you said you were using it for a time keeper
19:49.11ne0rollevel?
19:49.21mimecaryes
19:49.31mimecarsummatusmentis: I try neutral spanish
19:49.45mimecari haven't translated it to english
19:49.55summatusmentisne0rol: umm... as in difficulty
19:50.27summatusmentisno no, I think a spanish site is a good idea
19:50.45summatusmentisI'm reading it now and wishing I'd kept up my spanish skills
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19:51.02mimecarxDD
19:51.03ne0rolwhere ar you from summatusmentis
19:51.06ne0rol?
19:51.20summatusmentisne0rol: the US
19:51.25ne0rolyour nick seems "spanish"
19:51.32summatusmentisI went to a spanish immersion elementary school
19:51.37summatusmentisne0rol: my nick is latin, actually
19:51.48ne0rolok
19:52.02summatusmentisbut I took spanish for 7 years, and I used to be pretty good
19:52.25mimecarsummatusmentis: we want addapt angstrom to spanish
19:52.32Aki_RoseHi all :p
19:52.35mimecarit's a project for this holidays
19:52.38mimecarhi Aki_Rose
19:52.38summatusmentishi Aki_Rose
19:52.41ne0rolsuma = plus; tus= your; mentis = lie?
19:53.05ne0roljaja
19:53.11summatusmentisne0rol: nope :-D summatus = supremacy, mentis = of the mind
19:53.19mimecarxDDD
19:53.25mimecarthe mind master ;)
19:53.31ne0rolits a joke
19:53.35summatusmentismimecar: aren't there internationalized packages already?
19:53.45summatusmentisne0rol: nice try though :-P
19:53.46mimecarthere're some packages on spanish
19:54.27summatusmentisafaik it'd just be a matter of installing the -i18n packages and setting the language
19:54.28summatusmentisI don't know that for sure though
19:54.31mimecarfirst, system should use spanish, for example, keyboard and libraries
19:54.39mimecarmore or less, yes
19:54.58mimecarwithout download that packages , all the programs on the rom
19:57.06ne0rolI saw a debian system for zaurus. Has anybody tried this?
19:57.16ne0roland also gentoo i think
19:58.01mimecarne0rol: why do you want install debian / gentoo on zaurus ?
19:58.25ne0rolI bought the zaurus tu "investigate"
19:58.40ne0roland I love debian and gentoo
19:58.41ne0roljeje
19:58.50mimecarok
19:58.56mimecarthat "tu" is very cool ;)
19:59.03ne0roltu=to
19:59.09ne0roljeje
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20:00.40ne0rolpolyonymous, what a freak nick ;-)
20:00.56polyonymouswhat's so freak about it?
20:01.44ne0rolfreak in spain is "rare"
20:01.52polyonymousah
20:02.13polyonymousWell, nicks are supposed to be unique, aren't they? :)
20:02.19mimecaryes
20:02.24ne0rolyes
20:02.44ne0roljeje, I like your nick ;-)
20:03.20polyonymousYou would like it even more if you knew me (because to know me is to love me and everything about me, including nick)
20:03.28|10010110this is more "frak"
20:03.31|10010110jaja
20:04.09polyonymousWhat is 0226 supposed to mean?
20:04.22|10010110jaja
20:04.28|10010110it's a random number
20:04.39mimecaro...binary.....
20:05.03mimecarwith less than 8 bits xD
20:05.33kollalooks like an umask
20:05.43kolla(or mask)
20:06.03mimecarpolyonymous: is not executable xDDD
20:06.16|10010110jaja
20:06.25polyonymousweird umask.
20:06.28|10010110mimecar: I think "xD" doesn't exist in english
20:06.40mimecarok
20:06.48|10010110exist?
20:07.13mimecarit's a laugh, more or less
20:07.18polyonymousxD card does.
20:07.38mimecarok ok
20:07.56hitzIs very hard write without "XD"
20:08.00hitzjeje
20:08.15hitz(jeje = xD)
20:11.19hitzwith a collie, the SD filesystem must be fat16 or 32 ?
20:11.43mimecarfat16 is size limited
20:12.06mimecari think i use fat32
20:12.20mimecaryou can change it if you get problems
20:12.38hitzmkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sda1
20:12.53hitzyou know if this is the linux command?
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20:13.58mimecari haven't use -f  parameter
20:14.06hitzok
20:14.19hitzi think mkfs.vfat -f 16 is for fat16
20:14.32hitzwithout -f is 32
20:15.58mimecarok
20:17.23hitzmimecar: I have read here: http://usuarios.lycos.es/xotaweb/?id=17
20:17.37hitzthat the last OZ 3.5.4 has a problem
20:17.44hitzwith 1GB sd card
20:17.59hitzdo you know if it is true?
20:18.00mimecarthe problem is with 3 GB card
20:18.04mimecar2 GB
20:18.18mimecarthere's not problem with 1 GB
20:18.30hitzok
20:22.32mimecartime to dinner
20:22.35mimecarbyes...
20:25.33hitzwhat CF wireless card works with zaurus?
20:25.50hitzDCF-660W, this is one
20:25.57hitzthere are more?
20:26.17CoreDump|homethere are plenty
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20:27.36hitzand there is any with antenna out?
20:28.58CoreDump|homenever seen one
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20:35.01hitzCould you recommend me any CF card please?
20:37.41CoreDump|homeMy Planex GW-CF11H works perfectly w/ WEP and WPA
20:37.48CoreDump|homeso did my old buffalo
20:38.08CoreDump|homeall prism 2.5 based cards should work
20:41.51hitzok
20:41.53hitzthanks
20:43.52hitzdo you know if DCF-650 works?
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20:49.17CoreDump|homeI don't, google should know tho ;)
20:50.16hitzgoogle says yes
20:50.17hitzjeje
20:57.44CoreDump|home;)
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23:27.50Greg2hello all
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