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11:46.46 | RomanMoz | Need help! On Zaurus 3200 I didn't make fdisk and open zaurus can't to be installed. Now I have message: kernel panic but QTopia I haven't |
11:47.27 | RomanMoz | What can I do to rewrite bin image or to make fdisk |
11:54.03 | AcTiVaTe | Prolly just like as on an SL-5500? |
11:54.18 | AcTiVaTe | Just put the needed files on an SD or CF and then start the flash procedure |
11:57.50 | RomanMoz | Which files is needed ? I have no an operating system now! |
12:12.51 | AcTiVaTe | RomanMoz: The files needed are most likely stated on either openzaurus.org or on the site for Angstrom |
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12:40.45 | RomanMoz | Can anybody describe a Maintenance Screen of Zaurus 3200 ? |
13:05.45 | RomanMoz | from japanese to english |
13:07.22 | hrw | RomanMoz: that one used to flashing? |
13:07.50 | hrw | there are some infos in net, but you only need last option which is used to reflashing |
13:08.18 | RomanMoz | Thanks |
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13:49.10 | RomanMoz | How to open Diagnostic menu for Zaurus 3200? |
14:10.11 | CoreDump|home | hi |
14:10.52 | CoreDump|home | RomanMoz: google is your friend |
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19:26.13 | ne0rol | hi |
19:27.08 | ne0rol | I have zaurus 5500 (collie). I want to install OZ in my SD card (1GB). What do you recomend, a loop image or direct installation? |
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19:27.27 | summatusmentis | loop image |
19:27.33 | ne0rol | and In which filesystem? |
19:27.39 | ne0rol | vfat or ext2 ? |
19:27.58 | summatusmentis | ext2 |
19:28.22 | ne0rol | ok |
19:28.40 | ne0rol | and is needed a swap partition? |
19:28.55 | summatusmentis | not necessarilly, and i wouldn't swap on an SD card |
19:29.12 | ne0rol | ok |
19:29.14 | ne0rol | thanks |
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19:29.23 | mimecar | hi |
19:29.24 | summatusmentis | sure thing, I assume you know what you're doing? |
19:29.27 | summatusmentis | hi mimecar |
19:29.41 | ne0rol | why not? |
19:29.45 | ne0rol | :-) |
19:29.55 | ne0rol | buenas mimecar |
19:29.58 | summatusmentis | lol |
19:30.06 | mimecar | hi ne0rol |
19:30.18 | mimecar | where're you from ? |
19:30.24 | ne0rol | barcelona |
19:30.29 | mimecar | xDDD |
19:30.30 | ne0rol | i'm from innerzaurus |
19:30.35 | mimecar | I know |
19:30.38 | ne0rol | my nicj is hitz |
19:30.44 | mimecar | I must write a summary with all the people |
19:30.50 | ne0rol | jeje |
19:31.17 | ne0rol | summatusmentis: why you ask this? |
19:31.30 | ne0rol | it's "dangerous"? |
19:31.59 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: no, no, not dangerous, just that some people need more help getting it done than others |
19:32.07 | ne0rol | ok |
19:32.14 | mimecar | what's the subjet? |
19:32.19 | summatusmentis | loop images |
19:32.31 | ne0rol | it's not my first time summatusmentis |
19:32.31 | ne0rol | jeje |
19:32.33 | summatusmentis | and root-on-sd for collie |
19:32.33 | mimecar | an interesting feature |
19:32.45 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: ok, fair enough. Just checking :-P |
19:32.53 | ne0rol | :-P |
19:33.25 | summatusmentis | mimecar: a necessary feature for collie :-D |
19:33.28 | ne0rol | summatusmentis: I asked which is the best filesystem to the sd card |
19:33.29 | mimecar | I use fat |
19:33.34 | ne0rol | me too |
19:33.42 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: true, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything |
19:33.45 | kolla | ext3, actually |
19:33.48 | ne0rol | because I used vfat, never ext2 |
19:34.01 | summatusmentis | we get some newby people around here, so I usually try to be as helpful as possible |
19:34.05 | ne0rol | ext3 with collie ? |
19:34.06 | mimecar | if you use fat, you can write on the card on windows |
19:34.09 | kolla | yes |
19:34.14 | summatusmentis | and I'll give more information if I feel the person needs it |
19:34.26 | ne0rol | ok ok |
19:34.35 | ne0rol | kolla: have you tried this? |
19:34.42 | kolla | yes |
19:34.50 | ne0rol | maybe ext3 is more slow |
19:34.54 | summatusmentis | I didn't mean that in any sort of derogatory sense, nothing against you at all ne0rol :-) |
19:35.22 | kolla | it's been a while since I used SD at all, but yes, I did use ext3 |
19:35.24 | mimecar | I think opie has some test |
19:35.35 | ne0rol | ok, no problem summatusmentis, very thanks for the help ;-) |
19:35.37 | mimecar | you can check velocity or system frequency |
19:35.54 | ne0rol | I use GPE, jeje |
19:35.54 | kolla | officually un-smart, but I got tired of fsck |
19:36.14 | ne0rol | I think GPE is better than opie, what do you think? |
19:36.17 | mimecar | I'll use gpe when I can run it on spanish without problems |
19:36.34 | ne0rol | why do you want gpe on spanish? |
19:36.40 | ne0rol | :-P |
19:36.41 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: GPE is much much better for what I use my Z for |
19:36.59 | summatusmentis | OPIE works better for PIM, and 'orthodox' pda usages |
19:37.05 | ne0rol | i think GPE is more "linux" than opie |
19:37.18 | ne0rol | ok |
19:37.31 | mimecar | ne0rol: I need kopi on zaurus |
19:37.47 | ne0rol | what is kopi? |
19:38.10 | mimecar | do you know korganizer ? |
19:38.15 | ne0rol | yes |
19:38.23 | summatusmentis | Korganizer/PlatformIndependent |
19:38.26 | mimecar | kopi is the "opie version" |
19:38.30 | ne0rol | ok |
19:38.33 | mimecar | more or less, it can run on windows also |
19:38.48 | summatusmentis | there's also KAPI(kaddressboo) |
19:38.55 | summatusmentis | kaddressbook* |
19:38.59 | mimecar | yes |
19:39.01 | ne0rol | but, i think is possible to have GPE and opie libraries in the same system |
19:39.08 | summatusmentis | and there might be one more that actually works on the Z |
19:39.18 | ne0rol | like Gnome with QT aplications |
19:39.41 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: it is, and I tried it once, but it didn't work out the way I wanted, and I didn't push it |
19:39.47 | ne0rol | (sorry if my english is a little poor..) |
19:39.54 | ne0rol | ok |
19:40.26 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: no, not at all, your english is better than some native english speakers :-P |
19:40.37 | ne0rol | jaja |
19:40.37 | mimecar | ne0rol: write here is a good method to learn english |
19:40.43 | ne0rol | of corse |
19:40.46 | mimecar | or get some "corrections" |
19:40.47 | ne0rol | thanks summatusmentis |
19:41.28 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/HowTos/OPIE_and_GPE |
19:41.31 | mimecar | one question |
19:41.36 | summatusmentis | sort of what you were describing, but not quite |
19:41.40 | ne0rol | summatusmentis: very interesting, thanks :-) |
19:41.46 | mimecar | should I install opie on the zarus if I'm on exams :P ? |
19:42.00 | summatusmentis | mimecar: are you using your Z for exams? |
19:42.11 | mimecar | on exams not |
19:42.26 | mimecar | but I'm using it to sort my time |
19:42.32 | ne0rol | mimecar: I also have exams |
19:42.40 | mimecar | I've a new c1000 with the original rom |
19:42.41 | ne0rol | and yesterdey I installed gpe |
19:42.43 | ne0rol | jeje |
19:42.46 | mimecar | and some programs are told |
19:42.56 | ne0rol | what are you studing mimecar ? |
19:43.05 | mimecar | xDDD |
19:43.10 | summatusmentis | mimecar: some programs are told? what do you mean? |
19:43.25 | mimecar | I don't know on english ;) |
19:43.29 | ne0rol | "old"? |
19:43.56 | mimecar | summatusmentis: qpdf for example |
19:44.07 | summatusmentis | told is like, spoke in a sense, the past tense of tell |
19:44.09 | mimecar | on c1000, I can only use it on vertical screen |
19:45.09 | summatusmentis | so because of this, you're wondering if opie would work better? |
19:45.45 | mimecar | i want use openzaurus and, on a near future, angstrom |
19:46.17 | mimecar | i know webs related with OZ, but I don't know related with original rom |
19:46.39 | summatusmentis | personally, I'd use angstrom |
19:46.53 | ne0rol | mimecar: I'm writting a little text about zaurus (collie). If you want when I finishes it, you can put it in innerzaurus. |
19:46.59 | ne0rol | (If not this duplicate) |
19:47.03 | mimecar | there's not problem |
19:47.04 | ne0rol | dabax.net/node/44 |
19:47.20 | mimecar | summatusmentis: I need some time to work with angstrom |
19:47.27 | summatusmentis | what is innerzaurus? |
19:47.59 | mimecar | a spanish zaurus site |
19:48.16 | summatusmentis | mimecar: of course, that makes sense. I'd stick w/ GPE for now, since you're using your zaurus for exams. Once exams are over, then I'd test out the other versions you're considering |
19:48.22 | mimecar | we're translating doc to spanish, write some guide... |
19:48.25 | summatusmentis | spanish zaurus site? cool |
19:48.54 | mimecar | i'm not using zaurus for exams, currently i only use kopi and mp3 player |
19:49.02 | summatusmentis | what level of spanish? pretty advanced? |
19:49.09 | summatusmentis | mimecar: I thought you said you were using it for a time keeper |
19:49.11 | ne0rol | level? |
19:49.21 | mimecar | yes |
19:49.31 | mimecar | summatusmentis: I try neutral spanish |
19:49.45 | mimecar | i haven't translated it to english |
19:49.55 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: umm... as in difficulty |
19:50.27 | summatusmentis | no no, I think a spanish site is a good idea |
19:50.45 | summatusmentis | I'm reading it now and wishing I'd kept up my spanish skills |
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19:51.02 | mimecar | xDD |
19:51.03 | ne0rol | where ar you from summatusmentis |
19:51.06 | ne0rol | ? |
19:51.20 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: the US |
19:51.25 | ne0rol | your nick seems "spanish" |
19:51.32 | summatusmentis | I went to a spanish immersion elementary school |
19:51.37 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: my nick is latin, actually |
19:51.48 | ne0rol | ok |
19:52.02 | summatusmentis | but I took spanish for 7 years, and I used to be pretty good |
19:52.25 | mimecar | summatusmentis: we want addapt angstrom to spanish |
19:52.32 | Aki_Rose | Hi all :p |
19:52.35 | mimecar | it's a project for this holidays |
19:52.38 | mimecar | hi Aki_Rose |
19:52.38 | summatusmentis | hi Aki_Rose |
19:52.41 | ne0rol | suma = plus; tus= your; mentis = lie? |
19:53.05 | ne0rol | jaja |
19:53.11 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: nope :-D summatus = supremacy, mentis = of the mind |
19:53.19 | mimecar | xDDD |
19:53.25 | mimecar | the mind master ;) |
19:53.31 | ne0rol | its a joke |
19:53.35 | summatusmentis | mimecar: aren't there internationalized packages already? |
19:53.45 | summatusmentis | ne0rol: nice try though :-P |
19:53.46 | mimecar | there're some packages on spanish |
19:54.27 | summatusmentis | afaik it'd just be a matter of installing the -i18n packages and setting the language |
19:54.28 | summatusmentis | I don't know that for sure though |
19:54.31 | mimecar | first, system should use spanish, for example, keyboard and libraries |
19:54.39 | mimecar | more or less, yes |
19:54.58 | mimecar | without download that packages , all the programs on the rom |
19:57.06 | ne0rol | I saw a debian system for zaurus. Has anybody tried this? |
19:57.16 | ne0rol | and also gentoo i think |
19:58.01 | mimecar | ne0rol: why do you want install debian / gentoo on zaurus ? |
19:58.25 | ne0rol | I bought the zaurus tu "investigate" |
19:58.40 | ne0rol | and I love debian and gentoo |
19:58.41 | ne0rol | jeje |
19:58.50 | mimecar | ok |
19:58.56 | mimecar | that "tu" is very cool ;) |
19:59.03 | ne0rol | tu=to |
19:59.09 | ne0rol | jeje |
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20:00.40 | ne0rol | polyonymous, what a freak nick ;-) |
20:00.56 | polyonymous | what's so freak about it? |
20:01.44 | ne0rol | freak in spain is "rare" |
20:01.52 | polyonymous | ah |
20:02.13 | polyonymous | Well, nicks are supposed to be unique, aren't they? :) |
20:02.19 | mimecar | yes |
20:02.24 | ne0rol | yes |
20:02.44 | ne0rol | jeje, I like your nick ;-) |
20:03.20 | polyonymous | You would like it even more if you knew me (because to know me is to love me and everything about me, including nick) |
20:03.28 | |10010110 | this is more "frak" |
20:03.31 | |10010110 | jaja |
20:04.09 | polyonymous | What is 0226 supposed to mean? |
20:04.22 | |10010110 | jaja |
20:04.28 | |10010110 | it's a random number |
20:04.39 | mimecar | o...binary..... |
20:05.03 | mimecar | with less than 8 bits xD |
20:05.33 | kolla | looks like an umask |
20:05.43 | kolla | (or mask) |
20:06.03 | mimecar | polyonymous: is not executable xDDD |
20:06.16 | |10010110 | jaja |
20:06.25 | polyonymous | weird umask. |
20:06.28 | |10010110 | mimecar: I think "xD" doesn't exist in english |
20:06.40 | mimecar | ok |
20:06.48 | |10010110 | exist? |
20:07.13 | mimecar | it's a laugh, more or less |
20:07.18 | polyonymous | xD card does. |
20:07.38 | mimecar | ok ok |
20:07.56 | hitz | Is very hard write without "XD" |
20:08.00 | hitz | jeje |
20:08.15 | hitz | (jeje = xD) |
20:11.19 | hitz | with a collie, the SD filesystem must be fat16 or 32 ? |
20:11.43 | mimecar | fat16 is size limited |
20:12.06 | mimecar | i think i use fat32 |
20:12.20 | mimecar | you can change it if you get problems |
20:12.38 | hitz | mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sda1 |
20:12.53 | hitz | you know if this is the linux command? |
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20:13.58 | mimecar | i haven't use -f parameter |
20:14.06 | hitz | ok |
20:14.19 | hitz | i think mkfs.vfat -f 16 is for fat16 |
20:14.32 | hitz | without -f is 32 |
20:15.58 | mimecar | ok |
20:17.23 | hitz | mimecar: I have read here: http://usuarios.lycos.es/xotaweb/?id=17 |
20:17.37 | hitz | that the last OZ 3.5.4 has a problem |
20:17.44 | hitz | with 1GB sd card |
20:17.59 | hitz | do you know if it is true? |
20:18.00 | mimecar | the problem is with 3 GB card |
20:18.04 | mimecar | 2 GB |
20:18.18 | mimecar | there's not problem with 1 GB |
20:18.30 | hitz | ok |
20:22.32 | mimecar | time to dinner |
20:22.35 | mimecar | byes... |
20:25.33 | hitz | what CF wireless card works with zaurus? |
20:25.50 | hitz | DCF-660W, this is one |
20:25.57 | hitz | there are more? |
20:26.17 | CoreDump|home | there are plenty |
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20:27.36 | hitz | and there is any with antenna out? |
20:28.58 | CoreDump|home | never seen one |
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20:35.01 | hitz | Could you recommend me any CF card please? |
20:37.41 | CoreDump|home | My Planex GW-CF11H works perfectly w/ WEP and WPA |
20:37.48 | CoreDump|home | so did my old buffalo |
20:38.08 | CoreDump|home | all prism 2.5 based cards should work |
20:41.51 | hitz | ok |
20:41.53 | hitz | thanks |
20:43.52 | hitz | do you know if DCF-650 works? |
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20:49.17 | CoreDump|home | I don't, google should know tho ;) |
20:50.16 | hitz | google says yes |
20:50.17 | hitz | jeje |
20:57.44 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
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23:27.50 | Greg2 | hello all |
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23:47.15 | Greg2 | g'night |
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