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| 09:46.13 | Readon | when i use bitbake uboot-xxx for my bb file, it reports that "ERROR: Nothing provides dependency uboot-xxx" |
| 09:47.32 | Readon | what can i do for it |
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| 13:22.45 | Zero_Chaos | !oebug 2492 |
| 13:22.47 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2492, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-15 06:21 |
| 13:22.48 | cdbot2 | * * r.farina(AT)adelphia.net: cups-1.2.10-r0 |
| 13:22.49 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2492 |
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| 14:22.45 | RomanMoz | Need help ! I pressed "HDD 00 Clear" on my Zaurus 3200 (it was buy yesterday) |
| 14:22.47 | RomanMoz | and now I can't turn on (only a service menu). I have all Roms and restore files,but can't to use it. |
| 14:22.49 | RomanMoz | Can I format HDD now with fdisk and how ? |
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| 14:30.51 | gentgeen__ | Can anyone attest to the Stowaway Portable Keyboard working with OZ/GPE on a collie ? |
| 14:36.02 | RomanMoz | Need help ! I pressed "HDD 00 Clear" on my Zaurus 3200 (it was buy yesterday) |
| 14:36.04 | RomanMoz | and now I can't turn on (only a service menu). I have all Roms and restore files,but can't to use it. |
| 14:36.06 | RomanMoz | Can I format HDD now with fdisk and how ? |
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| 14:41.16 | daurnimator | RomanMoz: can you get to DB menu? |
| 14:41.59 | RomanMoz | No |
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| 16:18.32 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 17:27.21 | JesseG2 | goodmorning |
| 17:29.33 | JesseG2 | How do I get anstrom? is it as stable and usable as OZ? |
| 17:30.15 | Zero_Chaos | there is no official release yet |
| 17:30.26 | Zero_Chaos | www.angstrom-distribution.org should have all you are looking for |
| 17:30.39 | JesseG2 | thanks! |
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| 17:31.01 | mimecar | hi |
| 17:31.14 | JesseG2 | hi |
| 17:31.21 | mimecar | hi JesseG2 |
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| 17:32.58 | mimecar | hi summatusmentis |
| 17:33.11 | JesseG2 | Hmmm. All of the Ansgrom options for the collie (sl-5500) are all labled -test-. Perhaps I'll just stick with the latest OZ for a bit more. |
| 17:33.39 | mimecar | angstrom is on beta stage for collie |
| 17:33.53 | Zero_Chaos | yes, a bit more |
| 17:34.49 | JesseG2 | Does 'beta stage' mean that probably for an apliance user it's not quite ready to use on a day to day basis =) I sure have enjoyed OZ, by the way. Thanks guys! |
| 17:35.04 | mimecar | more or less, yes |
| 17:35.28 | mimecar | last time i saw angstrom status there was only an image without opie/gpe |
| 17:36.03 | JesseG2 | ahh |
| 17:38.34 | mimecar | what do I need to show avi files en opie ? |
| 17:39.18 | JesseG2 | well I've been trying to install a Bible reader program (http://www.crosswire.org/) but it complains about some failed dependancies, so I'm looking to get a new install since the opie package manager just crashes if i try to update. |
| 17:39.25 | NAbyss | mimecar: opie-mplayer, most likely |
| 17:39.38 | mimecar | JesseG2: have you zaurus with net connection ? |
| 17:39.52 | mimecar | NAbyss: mediaplayer 1 or 2? |
| 17:40.14 | JesseG2 | mimecar, yup I can do wifi or over the USB for network. |
| 17:40.28 | mimecar | then, you only need write on the console |
| 17:40.33 | mimecar | ipkg install programname |
| 17:40.39 | mimecar | and the system will install dependences |
| 17:41.13 | NAbyss | mimecar: 2, iirc |
| 17:41.26 | mimecar | ok |
| 17:42.26 | JesseG2 | hmm, I will try that. I don't think that package is in the feeds, so it may not know where to get it. i may have to download it locally. Will try.. |
| 17:42.46 | mimecar | there was a bible reader on the feed |
| 17:43.03 | JesseG2 | ahh cool -- the sword project one? |
| 17:43.26 | mimecar | i don't remember the name now |
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| 18:06.19 | JesseG2 | Ahh there! it's now on the net via it's wifi cf card, and is downloading packages... |
| 18:06.32 | mimecar | good |
| 18:06.55 | JesseG2 | ohyeah, it looks like it found opie-dagger on the official OZ feeds -- that's the reader I'm after! |
| 18:08.13 | JesseG2 | I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed having full real linux with a nice big swap on my PDA |
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| 18:12.44 | JesseG2 | hmm. The executable isn't in the path. Not too sure where it is. If I go into Q->Applications->Dagger, it says "Could not locate applicate dagger" |
| 18:13.03 | mimecar | do you use original rom ? |
| 18:13.09 | mimecar | or openzaurus rom |
| 18:13.39 | JesseG2 | I'm certainly using openzaurus rom. I have it installed in a 700M loop file on a 1G SD card |
| 18:13.50 | JesseG2 | with opie 1.2.1 I think |
| 18:14.05 | mimecar | it should work |
| 18:14.09 | mimecar | reboot the zaurus |
| 18:14.48 | JesseG2 | reboot? aww then I have to reset my date and time.. oh wait, it's still off from when i last rebooted haha (I think the internal rechargeable clock battery is dead.) |
| 18:21.08 | JesseG2 | rebooting didn't help. dagger is in the path now, and when I run 'dagger' on the command-line, it says ": QuickLauncher invoked as: dagger" |
| 18:21.15 | JesseG2 | but nothing else happens. |
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| 18:28.25 | mimecar | did you update the system? |
| 18:29.18 | JesseG2 | no. Whenever I try to update from the package-manager, the package manager crashes. |
| 18:29.42 | mimecar | use terminal for update |
| 18:33.09 | JesseG2 | just ipkg update |
| 18:34.12 | JesseG2 | oh, that just gets a list of the latest packages. |
| 18:34.49 | JesseG2 | is there a way to do a system-wide update so that everything that I have installed gets upgraded -- as if I'd done a reinstall from the latest image? |
| 18:35.14 | mimecar | yes |
| 18:35.17 | mimecar | ipkg update |
| 18:35.20 | mimecar | ipkg upgrade |
| 18:35.43 | JesseG2 | Ahh, thanks! |
| 18:36.20 | mimecar | where're you from JesseG2? |
| 18:36.51 | JesseG2 | Washington, usa. You? |
| 18:37.52 | mimecar | spain |
| 18:39.28 | JesseG2 | Ahh. 'upgrade' is going to ask me if i want to keep some files or use new ones, every now and then. |
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| 18:40.03 | JesseG2 | wow -- so I don't have to reinstall from scratch just to get the latest? that's really nice! |
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| 18:44.03 | hitz | hi |
| 18:44.07 | mimecar | hi hitz |
| 18:45.12 | JesseG2 | cool!! dagger now runs now that I updated and upgraded! |
| 18:46.24 | hitz | I'm using ipkg, and the default feed is Openzaurus official. There are others feeds with more packages? |
| 18:46.50 | mimecar | no |
| 18:47.01 | mimecar | another feeds are mirros of the oficial |
| 18:47.09 | hitz | ok |
| 18:47.14 | mimecar | if somebody has built himself a feed, there can be new packages |
| 18:47.47 | hitz | and, I there is any virtual machine to compile zaurus packages? |
| 18:48.08 | mimecar | you can compile on zaurus with gcc or on pc with bitbake |
| 18:50.00 | hitz | ok, thanks mimecar :) |
| 18:50.44 | hitz | mimecar: and you know any web to download zaurus compiled packages? |
| 18:50.49 | JesseG2 | Has anyone heard of allegro (the primitive drawing library for games) running on OZ? It's like SDL but different. |
| 18:51.13 | mimecar | the openzaurus feed |
| 18:51.23 | mimecar | no idea JesseG2 |
| 18:51.31 | hitz | ok |
| 18:53.16 | hitz | mimecar: http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/showdetail.php?app=177 |
| 18:53.28 | hitz | this is a good page to download compiled packages |
| 18:53.38 | hitz | nice |
| 18:54.20 | mimecar | yes, but you shouldn't mix pacakges of two distributions |
| 18:54.42 | hitz | distributions? opie/gpe ? |
| 18:54.57 | mimecar | opie and gpe are openzaurus |
| 18:55.05 | mimecar | original rom, openzaurus, pdaxrom... |
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| 18:57.09 | hitz | ok |
| 18:57.25 | hitz | then, the best option is compile the packages |
| 18:57.44 | mimecar | or use the feed |
| 18:58.03 | hitz | the feed is very limited |
| 18:58.31 | hitz | I want bomberclone for example, and it isn't in OZ feed |
| 18:58.54 | hitz | *bomberman |
| 18:59.58 | mimecar | you can try another rom files (if you're lucking) |
| 18:59.58 | Zero_Chaos | you install the build system, and you build yourself bomberman |
| 19:00.10 | mimecar | Zero_Chaos: with bitbake? |
| 19:00.15 | Zero_Chaos | yes |
| 19:00.50 | hitz | with bitbake I can compile the packages in my computer? |
| 19:00.56 | mimecar | yes |
| 19:01.14 | mimecar | you need linux on pc side and free space |
| 19:02.29 | hitz | ok, I have installed bitbake |
| 19:03.24 | hitz | ohh! distcc is in OZ feed |
| 19:03.28 | hitz | very nice :-) |
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| 19:27.22 | hitz | I get this error when I run ipkg update: |
| 19:27.34 | hitz | ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp -P /tmp/ipkg-Wl44Lh http://feeds.openzaurus.org/3.5.4.1/feed/base/mplayer-common_0.0.1-r1_all.ipk' |
| 19:27.43 | hitz | any idea? |
| 19:28.01 | mimecar | can you download it on pc? |
| 19:28.06 | hitz | yes |
| 19:28.52 | hitz | sorry this wasn't the error |
| 19:30.02 | hitz | :S I have reupdated and works fine |
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| 19:38.21 | JesseG2 | thanks a ton everyone! the reader seems to be working well! |
| 19:40.39 | mimecar | somebody with c1000 here ? |
| 19:40.47 | mimecar | and angstrom |
| 19:44.16 | Zero_Chaos | yes |
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| 20:16.32 | hitz | when I run ipkg update i get this error: |
| 20:16.39 | hitz | ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1: `wget --passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-GND6HH http://feeds.openzaurus.org/3.5.4/feed/x11/Packages.gz' |
| 20:16.58 | hitz | and the url is good |
| 20:17.13 | hitz | any idea? |
| 20:18.02 | hitz | it seems to be a wget problem |
| 20:18.23 | hitz | because I can download the package with: wget http://feeds.openzaurus.org/3.5.4/feed/x11/Packages.gz |
| 20:18.49 | hitz | Maybe this ftp doesn't support passive connections |
| 20:19.20 | hitz | oh! it isn't a ftp url... |
| 20:19.53 | hitz | can I configure ipkg to not use passive ? |
| 20:21.21 | hitz | yes! the error is generated by the "--passive-ftp" option |
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| 20:41.07 | JesseG2 | well I sort of need help. After doing the 'update' and 'upgrade' everything was fine, till I rebooted. Now it won't load opie -- |
| 20:42.03 | JesseG2 | it seems to be giving Input/output errors adn Bus errors. |
| 20:45.18 | JesseG2 | Hmm. never mind. I pulled out the battery, power cord, CF and SD card, then put it all back (except the CF) and now it booted fine.... |
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| 21:21.05 | JesseG2 | strange. wifi doesn't work anymore. |
| 21:26.05 | summatusmentis | anymore? it was working before? what changed? |
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| 21:32.44 | mimecar | re |
| 21:32.55 | summatusmentis | hi mimecar |
| 21:33.17 | mimecar | summatusmentis: did you have a c3000? |
| 21:33.29 | summatusmentis | 3200 |
| 21:33.40 | mimecar | can you suspend zaurus with angstrom ? |
| 21:34.14 | summatusmentis | yeah... just hit the on/off button |
| 21:34.39 | mimecar | it looks suspend app can't "close" some apps |
| 21:34.50 | mimecar | and the system won't halt |
| 21:35.10 | summatusmentis | really? w/ what image? |
| 21:35.25 | mimecar | Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070605-akita.rootfs.summary.jffs2 |
| 21:35.52 | summatusmentis | jffs2? is that for internal flash installation/ |
| 21:35.53 | summatusmentis | ? |
| 21:36.05 | polyonymous | akita has no hdd |
| 21:36.12 | mimecar | i have installed it on flash |
| 21:36.20 | summatusmentis | right... I just didn't recognize jffs2 |
| 21:36.32 | summatusmentis | mimecar: you've run ipkg update && ipkg upgrade right? |
| 21:36.47 | mimecar | ipkg update, yes |
| 21:37.17 | mimecar | i haven't upgrade |
| 21:38.52 | mimecar | I'm upgrading |
| 21:39.22 | JesseG2 | My linksys CF wifi card's LED just blinks all the time and won't connect. The network settings says that it's up, says I have a good signal, and "scan ' shows my AP. |
| 21:39.53 | mimecar | you must insert essid and password |
| 21:40.04 | JesseG2 | it used to work fine before I upgraded. (It used to show up as wlan0, now it shows up as 80211b (eth0) |
| 21:40.06 | mimecar | blink led is not connected |
| 21:40.14 | summatusmentis | what card is it? |
| 21:40.21 | summatusmentis | oh wait, you just said that |
| 21:40.29 | mimecar | there was a bug with collie and latest upgrade |
| 21:40.35 | JesseG2 | linksys WCF12 |
| 21:40.46 | JesseG2 | aww wratts I hav a collie hehe. |
| 21:41.11 | summatusmentis | can you run lsmod and tell me if hostap is loaded? |
| 21:41.42 | JesseG2 | not loaded |
| 21:42.27 | summatusmentis | is it orinoco instead? |
| 21:42.37 | JesseG2 | I did modprobe hostap. |
| 21:43.00 | summatusmentis | ok, did lsmod show orinoco anything? |
| 21:43.08 | JesseG2 | orinoco_cs and hermes were already loaded |
| 21:43.10 | JesseG2 | es |
| 21:43.12 | JesseG2 | yes |
| 21:43.34 | summatusmentis | hold on one minute |
| 21:44.18 | JesseG2 | k |
| 21:45.23 | summatusmentis | rmmod orinoco_cs hermes |
| 21:45.29 | summatusmentis | modprobe hostap_cs |
| 21:46.37 | JesseG2 | k, done |
| 21:46.59 | summatusmentis | now try connecting |
| 21:47.14 | JesseG2 | I had to remove the wifi card to rmmod ori and herm -- and they went away automatically when i pulled the card. |
| 21:47.16 | JesseG2 | I shall insert card now. |
| 21:48.10 | JesseG2 | it just loads the two orinoco and the one hermes module again, leaving the hostap and hostap_cs unused. |
| 21:48.16 | JesseG2 | (and doesn't work.) |
| 21:48.31 | summatusmentis | it shouldn't be using the orinoco modules |
| 21:49.00 | summatusmentis | are you root? |
| 21:49.12 | JesseG2 | yes, root |
| 21:49.27 | summatusmentis | ifdown eth0 |
| 21:49.41 | summatusmentis | then try removing the orinoco stuff and the the hermes |
| 21:49.46 | JesseG2 | k, donr, no error |
| 21:50.00 | summatusmentis | ok, modprobe orinoco_cs |
| 21:50.22 | JesseG2 | the 'done no err' was for the 'ifdown' statement. |
| 21:50.28 | summatusmentis | oh, my bad |
| 21:51.46 | JesseG2 | it compalined that hermes was bus. Ahh -- had to unload orinoco before herms. they are out now. |
| 21:53.29 | JesseG2 | I did modprobe orinoco_cs and it loaded hermes.o, orinoco.o, and orinoco_cs,o |
| 21:55.13 | JesseG2 | and the wifi LED just blinks and blinks. |
| 21:56.00 | JesseG2 | Is there any way to downgrade just the wifi stuff, since it worked great before? |
| 21:58.33 | summatusmentis | JesseG2: I screwed up, you don't want orinoco loaded |
| 21:58.44 | summatusmentis | re-unload the orinoco, then hermes |
| 21:58.53 | summatusmentis | then modprobe hostap_cs |
| 22:00.23 | JesseG2 | K |
| 22:00.33 | JesseG2 | hostap_cs is already running from earlier. |
| 22:01.13 | summatusmentis | ok, so then try ifup wlan0 |
| 22:03.28 | JesseG2 | Okay, I got rid of all orinoco and hermes stuff from lsmod. hostap and hostap_cs were loaded from before. I ttyped ifup wlan0, which gave a bunch of errors and the gren LED still blinks. |
| 22:04.16 | JesseG2 | looks like a lot of "...Set failed on wlan0: no such device." |
| 22:05.28 | summatusmentis | run iwconfig |
| 22:05.46 | summatusmentis | and tell me which device has wireless capabilites(it might end up being ifup eth0 instead) |
| 22:05.47 | mimecar | summatusmentis: after upgrade, the problem is fixed :) |
| 22:06.32 | JesseG2 | iwconfig lists lo, irda0, sti0, irda1 each as having no wireless extensions. |
| 22:07.36 | JesseG2 | I tried ifup eth0 and it said no such device on that as well. |
| 22:07.36 | summatusmentis | JesseG2: does it list anything as having wireless extensions? |
| 22:07.41 | summatusmentis | hrm.. |
| 22:07.49 | JesseG2 | no wireless extensions listed in iwconfig. |
| 22:08.02 | summatusmentis | cat /etc/network/interfaces | grep {eth0,wlan0} |
| 22:09.41 | JesseG2 | no lines returned from grep. |
| 22:10.25 | summatusmentis | hrm... do you have GUI? |
| 22:10.48 | JesseG2 | I have opie, and I have O->Settings->Network |
| 22:11.12 | summatusmentis | check the Network thing, see if you can find a way to setup eth0 or wlan0 |
| 22:11.17 | JesseG2 | which is a program which allows me to scan for wifi networks, and key in a hex encryption key and stff |
| 22:11.45 | summatusmentis | oh, erm.. |
| 22:12.00 | mimecar | wenreiller |
| 22:12.22 | mimecar | you get packages, after you need crack it |
| 22:12.24 | summatusmentis | mimecar: it's wellenreiter, but he's having issues w/ his card drivers(I think) |
| 22:13.07 | JesseG2 | yeah -- that's what I always used before. It lists them all as down and disconnected and the options to scan for a wifi AP are gone now that I unloaded the orinoco stuff.. |
| 22:13.32 | JesseG2 | (It can scan for my wifi AP and correctly identifies it when the orinoco stuff is loaded, it just can't connect.) |
| 22:13.38 | summatusmentis | run /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 22:15.04 | JesseG2 | It gave a bunch of errors about wlan0 and eth0 not existing |
| 22:15.44 | summatusmentis | are you familiar w/ vi? |
| 22:15.56 | JesseG2 | yup, I also have a text editor in opie |
| 22:16.12 | JesseG2 | I started linux with vi but after a while migrated to pico haha. |
| 22:16.26 | summatusmentis | ok, edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:16.32 | JesseG2 | I have pico on here too :{ |
| 22:17.04 | summatusmentis | and add iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 22:17.14 | summatusmentis | and iface wlan0 inet dhcp |
| 22:17.20 | summatusmentis | to it, save and quit |
| 22:17.39 | JesseG2 | just anywhere? (I'm using static IPs if that matters.) |
| 22:18.08 | summatusmentis | oh, that does matter |
| 22:18.10 | summatusmentis | hrm... |
| 22:19.33 | summatusmentis | iface usbf inet static |
| 22:19.33 | summatusmentis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.33 | summatusmentis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.33 | summatusmentis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.33 | summatusmentis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.44 | summatusmentis | ok, that's an example of a static ip setup in that file |
| 22:19.49 | summatusmentis | yeah, you can add them anywhere |
| 22:20.16 | summatusmentis | wait, if youre using static ips, that might be why it's not working... |
| 22:22.00 | JesseG2 | It was working like a charm before upgrade. I tried the GUI network configurator program, and it added some entries for wlan0 and eth0 |
| 22:23.10 | mimecar | night all |
| 22:23.17 | summatusmentis | any idea what got upgraded that broke it? |
| 22:23.20 | JesseG2 | night mimecar |
| 22:23.36 | summatusmentis | good night mimecar |
| 22:23.40 | mimecar | summatusmentis: problems start after upgrade OZ 3.5.4 |
| 22:23.50 | JesseG2 | no idea whatsoever. I just did ipkg update; ipkg upgrade. |
| 22:23.57 | mimecar | i think is related with new version for hostap |
| 22:24.05 | mimecar | JesseG2: if you reflash |
| 22:24.08 | mimecar | ipkg update |
| 22:24.15 | mimecar | ipkg upgrade > log.txt |
| 22:24.32 | mimecar | then , send us the log.txt file, you'll have all the packages update3d |
| 22:24.42 | mimecar | byes |
| 22:25.37 | JesseG2 | oh, well, actually, my / filesystem is on a 700M loop file on a 1G sd card, and I just happened to have copied it to my PC before doing all this.. |
| 22:25.50 | JesseG2 | so I could revert, and redo the upgrade. |
| 22:26.12 | JesseG2 | (while saving the logfile.) |
| 22:26.16 | summatusmentis | that's true... I'm not sure why it's being dumb like this... it should be using hostap, not orinoco |
| 22:26.49 | JesseG2 | maybe there's a problem with a pcmcia/cs config file that is incorrectly identifying something. I have no idea. |
| 22:27.21 | summatusmentis | it's possible... |
| 22:27.33 | summatusmentis | CoreDump|home: any suggestions? or polyonymous, or hrw|gone ? |
| 22:38.08 | JesseG2 | hey I sure appreciate you helping me with this! |
| 22:38.41 | JesseG2 | I gotta reboot -- I'll be right back. |
| 22:38.41 | summatusmentis | JesseG2: sure thing :-D I wish i were more help |
| 22:38.44 | summatusmentis | ok |
| 22:39.06 | JesseG2 | well you were a lot of help -- I don't really know where to look in there. |
| 22:39.08 | JesseG2 | brb |
| 22:42.48 | polyonymous | summatusmentis, sorry, I've been away. do I get it right - for you hostap card orinoco drivers are loaded? |
| 22:43.11 | summatusmentis | for JesseG2(who will be right back) |
| 22:43.16 | polyonymous | Ah |
| 22:43.29 | summatusmentis | he's got a collie, and after upgrade it started loading orinoco drivers, and it should be loading hostap |
| 22:43.31 | polyonymous | Well, I've had a card for which both hostap and orinoco modules got loaded |
| 22:44.10 | polyonymous | and there are two fixes |
| 22:44.30 | polyonymous | 1. echo 'blacklist orinoco_cs'>/etc/modprobe.d/no-orinoco |
| 22:44.35 | polyonymous | .conf |
| 22:44.36 | summatusmentis | his isn't loading orinoco |
| 22:44.46 | summatusmentis | sorry isn't loading hostap |
| 22:46.19 | polyonymous | well, mine did... |
| 22:46.34 | summatusmentis | what's the other fix? |
| 22:46.56 | polyonymous | the other fix is also for the case of loading both modules - that was ipkg remove orinoco stuff :) |
| 22:47.14 | summatusmentis | I had him manually rmmod orinoco, and modprobe hostap, and it didn't seem to work... |
| 22:47.27 | polyonymous | ah |
| 22:47.39 | polyonymous | well, then he should dig deeper, I think |
| 22:48.52 | summatusmentis | meaning? |
| 22:49.22 | polyonymous | If I know I would give the answer :) |
| 22:49.32 | summatusmentis | lol, oh, I see |
| 22:51.55 | *** join/#openzaurus JesseG2 (n=jesse@75-165-34-116.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 22:52.09 | JesseG2 | Alright I'm back |
| 22:52.45 | summatusmentis | JesseG2: you've stumped me |
| 22:54.50 | JesseG2 | yeah this is a strange one. |
| 22:55.10 | summatusmentis | you said you have a backup right? |
| 22:55.16 | JesseG2 | Does 'ipkg upgrade' keep a log of what packages it installed? |
| 22:55.26 | summatusmentis | I don't think so |
| 22:55.34 | JesseG2 | Yes, I copied the whole 700M image to my PC for good measure |
| 22:55.53 | summatusmentis | ok, so if nothing else, the upgrade will be the only thing lost? |
| 23:01.33 | JesseG2 | I do believe that is the case. |
| 23:01.53 | JesseG2 | Actually, I have two 1G SD cards here, and I'll restore the old image to the other SD so I can switch between them. |
| 23:02.10 | summatusmentis | that's a good idea |
| 23:02.54 | summatusmentis | alright, run ipkg list_installed | grep orinoco |
| 23:03.02 | JesseG2 | k |
| 23:03.04 | summatusmentis | then ipkg remove whatever gets listed |
| 23:04.41 | JesseG2 | it listed orinoco-modules and orinoco-modules-cs -- now removing |
| 23:06.58 | JesseG2 | Done. I removed both. I had to do the -cs first since it depended on the other. |
| 23:07.20 | summatusmentis | ok, now reboot the machine, then plug the card in after it's up |
| 23:07.25 | summatusmentis | just to be sure |
| 23:07.42 | JesseG2 | haha rebooting.. |
| 23:09.42 | JesseG2 | alright, opie is up and running. Now insert the card? I'll see what modules are loaded fisrt. |
| 23:13.32 | *** join/#openzaurus Timelord (n=TL@16.8c.d12c.cidr.airmail.net) |
| 23:13.41 | JesseG2 | that's strange the LED came on solid. |
| 23:13.51 | summatusmentis | it's solid? |
| 23:13.54 | summatusmentis | hrm... |
| 23:13.58 | summatusmentis | can you connect? |
| 23:14.02 | JesseG2 | checking.. |
| 23:15.52 | JesseG2 | does not work. |
| 23:16.02 | JesseG2 | ifconfig eth0 and ifconfig wlan0 both say no such device.. |
| 23:16.12 | summatusmentis | iwconfig |
| 23:16.45 | JesseG2 | iwconfig lists lo, irda0 sit0 and irda1 only, and of course says no wireless ext for all of them. |
| 23:17.00 | summatusmentis | :-/ |
| 23:17.29 | JesseG2 | eth0 and wlan0 don't exist without modules loaded -- and no modules are loaded for them. |
| 23:17.35 | JesseG2 | hostap is not loaded. |
| 23:17.42 | summatusmentis | try loading hostap |
| 23:17.46 | summatusmentis | on the off chance |
| 23:19.35 | JesseG2 | I loaded hostap and hostap_cs. They both show as unused in 'lsmod' and iwconfig still does not list eth or lan. |
| 23:20.02 | summatusmentis | hrm... |
| 23:26.26 | JesseG2 | I'm currently trying to copy my old (but wifi working) disk image to my backup 1G SD card so I can try booting off of it to see what modules it uses for the wifo and what versions. |
| 23:27.13 | JesseG2 | thta's pretty funny though that the LED comes on solid the instant I plug it in. |
| 23:27.29 | JesseG2 | OK, going down for disk change. |
| 23:28.07 | summatusmentis | I wish i knew more about this :-/ |
| 23:28.25 | JesseG2 | You know more about it then I do, if that helps =) |
| 23:29.38 | summatusmentis | lol, this should be relatively simple procedure |
| 23:29.52 | PlastikOwl | I need a new zaurus battery myself |
| 23:30.08 | PlastikOwl | mine will go from full to empty in 10 mins |
| 23:30.22 | summatusmentis | PlastikOwl: sounds like you need a new Z battery :-P |
| 23:30.30 | PlastikOwl | yeah, in a bad way |
| 23:30.33 | JesseG2 | yeah, how long does it go with the backlight off and the wifi card out? haha |
| 23:31.11 | PlastikOwl | still pretty sad |
| 23:31.26 | PlastikOwl | the battery itself is probably 3-4 years old |
| 23:31.37 | PlastikOwl | and it's sat unused for a lot of that time |
| 23:31.49 | JesseG2 | I was thinking about putting a large 3/4 inch thick battery pack on the back of mine that would give me maybe 15 amp hours hahaha. |
| 23:32.21 | PlastikOwl | I remember sharp was selling these things for awhile |
| 23:32.35 | PlastikOwl | they were like little plug in disposable recharge packs |
| 23:32.45 | summatusmentis | JesseG2: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2159 |
| 23:34.56 | JesseG2 | ahhh... hmmm |
| 23:41.44 | JesseG2 | okay I just booted off of the old version (Just before I did upgrade) and wifi works again.. lets see what moduels it's using. |
| 23:42.39 | summatusmentis | should be using hostap |
| 23:43.03 | PlastikOwl | Ohhh |
| 23:43.12 | summatusmentis | ??? |
| 23:43.13 | PlastikOwl | did you do "update system" or something? |
| 23:43.25 | PlastikOwl | I did that once and my wifi card took a shit after that |
| 23:43.34 | PlastikOwl | I don't know what did it, but I won't do that again :P |
| 23:43.37 | summatusmentis | yes, that's exactly it |
| 23:43.51 | summatusmentis | you never got it fixed? |
| 23:44.02 | JesseG2 | Ahh haha it's using hostap_crypt_wep and hostap_cs and hostap. |
| 23:44.03 | PlastikOwl | no I just redid the rootfs image |
| 23:44.25 | summatusmentis | what did you modprobe earlier? |
| 23:44.28 | summatusmentis | are you on WEP? |
| 23:44.34 | JesseG2 | yes, wep |
| 23:44.46 | summatusmentis | we may be getting somewhere... maybe |
| 23:44.59 | JesseG2 | I did not know to modprobe the crypt_wep one before but I can go boot into the new one real quick -- just a matter of swapping SD cards |
| 23:45.01 | summatusmentis | can you try the other loop image, and modprobe those three? |
| 23:45.19 | summatusmentis | honestly, neither did I |
| 23:45.33 | JesseG2 | yeah sure. (But I suspect that if they would have worked, it would have loaded them for me.) But I will try! |
| 23:46.18 | summatusmentis | you may be right, but it's worth a shot |
| 23:46.31 | JesseG2 | booting new image now. |
| 23:48.33 | JesseG2 | Is there any mapping (like topographic) mapping program (for use with GPS) for opie or gpe? I've been working on a linux map program to release gpl or gnu or whatever -- but it uses allegro instead of SDL (I started it before I had a pda) otherwise i would try to port it. |
| 23:48.46 | JesseG2 | all booted up. |
| 23:49.00 | summatusmentis | honestly, I have no idea about mapping |
| 23:51.37 | JesseG2 | well with the upgraded version, loading those three hostap modules don't do any good. THey list as unused, the wifi card doesn't work, and eth0 and wlan0 don't exist and don't show up in iwconfig. |
| 23:53.31 | summatusmentis | is there a line at the end of iwconfig that says "Segmentation fault" ? |
| 23:53.48 | JesseG2 | no |
| 23:54.27 | summatusmentis | honestly, I have no idea |
| 23:54.45 | summatusmentis | if i were in your position, I'd do what PlastikOwl did, and just go back to the old image |
| 23:55.01 | summatusmentis | if there's certain things you want updated, just reinstall those packages |
| 23:55.06 | JesseG2 | You don't think it upgraded my kernel, do you? |
| 23:55.22 | summatusmentis | shouldn't've |
| 23:55.36 | summatusmentis | you're using OZ right? not pointed to angstrom feeds or anything like that? |
| 23:55.55 | JesseG2 | well, I wanted to run that bible reader program. It happily installed, but would not do anything -- not complaint, just nothing. so I did an upgrade -- then the reader worked fine. |
| 23:56.18 | JesseG2 | Yes, OZ 3.5.(4 or 5 I forgot but will tell you when I boot up) |
| 23:56.49 | JesseG2 | I'm booting into the old one to compre it with a saved output of lsmod |
| 23:57.59 | summatusmentis | it's be 3.5.4 |
| 23:58.10 | summatusmentis | it'd* |
| 23:58.32 | JesseG2 | I meant to say .3 or .4, not 5 hehehe yeah it wouldn't be 5 would it. |
| 23:58.53 | summatusmentis | nope, they were going to, but moved to angstrom |
| 23:59.51 | JesseG2 | okay, according to the opie system info graphical utility, I have Open Zaurus 3.5.4 before I upgraded. (I'm in the old one now.) |