IRC log for #openzaurus on 20070619

00:06.36*** join/#openzaurus punk-ass (n=user@unaffiliated/punkass)
00:39.34*** join/#openzaurus Zero_Chaos (n=zero@c-71-60-239-40.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
02:20.53*** join/#openzaurus poushag (n=poushag@ip24-254-136-100.rn.hr.cox.net)
02:44.40*** join/#openzaurus marcan_ (i=1337@117.Red-88-5-77.staticIP.rima-tde.net)
04:24.35*** join/#openzaurus ibot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt)
04:24.35*** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | No new releases - we switched to Angstrom | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4/3.5.4.1 | Feed browser: http://openzaurus.org/feed-browser/ | feeds.openzaurus.org rotates through all available mirrors
04:27.23*** join/#openzaurus marcan (i=1337@117.Red-88-5-77.staticIP.rima-tde.net)
05:57.36*** join/#openzaurus _law_ (n=law@mx2.stiftadmont.at)
06:21.17*** join/#openzaurus polyonymous_ (n=hacker@pD9538032.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
06:36.20*** join/#openzaurus daurnimator (i=daurn@203.46.66.63)
06:51.22*** join/#openzaurus TasDevil (n=tasdevil@p50914B0C.dip.t-dialin.net)
06:55.01*** join/#openzaurus pleemans (n=peter@leemanpe.ugent.be)
07:12.59*** join/#openzaurus toi (n=pleemans@d5152D3B4.access.telenet.be)
07:15.48*** join/#openzaurus Furre (n=furre@h62n1fls31o804.telia.com)
08:46.18*** join/#openzaurus mithro (n=tim@ppp246-117.static.internode.on.net)
08:48.10*** join/#openzaurus obergix[work] (n=olivier@157.159.110.228)
09:43.17*** join/#openzaurus punkass (n=user@unaffiliated/punkass)
10:31.14*** join/#openzaurus Varoudis (n=varoudis@athedsl-58645.home.otenet.gr)
10:58.54*** join/#openzaurus Varoudis_ (n=varoudis@athedsl-105858.home.otenet.gr)
11:00.48*** join/#openzaurus kolla (n=kolla@haugum.uninett.no)
11:09.50*** join/#openzaurus Varoudis (n=varoudis@athedsl-15019.home.otenet.gr)
11:48.41*** join/#openzaurus pleemans (n=peter@leemanpe.ugent.be)
12:10.10*** join/#openzaurus Ecco (n=User@rbt.likid.org)
12:10.33EccoHi there. ! I was just wondering : where's the right place to fetch up-to-date kernel sources for Zaurus C-1000 (akita, that is)
13:00.15*** join/#openzaurus pleemans (n=peter@leemanpe.ugent.be)
13:12.06*** join/#openzaurus TasDevil (n=tasdevil@p50917B4D.dip.t-dialin.net)
14:22.07*** join/#openzaurus toi (n=pleemans@d5152D3B4.access.telenet.be)
14:43.41*** join/#openzaurus pleemans (n=peter@leemanpe.ugent.be)
14:45.15*** part/#openzaurus Ecco (n=User@rbt.likid.org)
15:28.56*** join/#openzaurus daurn (i=daurn@203.46.64.76)
16:36.55*** join/#openzaurus mimecar (n=Miguel@84.Red-83-37-213.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)
16:36.57mimecarhi
16:37.20mimecarcan i turn off screen while i'm playing music ?
16:37.51Zero_Chaosyes
16:38.19Zero_Chaosgo into power saving (I forget where) and say don't standby, turn off screen quick
16:38.44mimecarthat turn off lcd
16:39.01Zero_Chaoswell, backlight at least
16:39.02mimecarbut it turns on after change the song
16:39.07Zero_Chaosnot sure about lcd
16:39.24mimecarpower saving => Light and energy on settings panel
16:39.30Zero_Chaosyeah
16:39.32mimecarI'm, I've tested it toyday
16:39.51Zero_Chaosi don't know an app that lets you force the backlight off
16:40.08mimecarif song is long, lcd is off
16:40.17mimecarbut it's a problem it turn on every sing change
16:40.19mimecar:(
16:40.34Zero_Chaosif you have a clamshell you can set it to turn off screen when closed by not suspend
16:40.42Zero_Chaoss/by/but
16:40.49*** join/#openzaurus leoncamel (n=leoncame@p2009-ipbfp201fukuokachu.fukuoka.ocn.ne.jp)
16:41.01mimecarbut I must sure screen is turned off
16:41.47Zero_Chaosmimecar: you can see the light even when the screen is closed.
16:42.01mimecarI can't
16:42.18mimecarbut if system turn of on every change, battery will drain quickly
16:44.00mimecarI tryed xmms, but music doesn't sound
16:47.19*** join/#openzaurus JustinP (n=jpatrin@c-69-181-11-251.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
16:48.47*** join/#openzaurus jroad (n=jr@cpe-70-112-30-89.austin.res.rr.com)
18:48.59PlastikOwlyo
18:51.42summatusmentishi PlastikOwl
19:35.13*** join/#openzaurus pleemans (n=peter@d51A5E76A.access.telenet.be)
19:51.15PlastikOwlhey summatusmentis
19:51.19PlastikOwlhow goes it
20:28.20*** join/#openzaurus punkass (n=user@unaffiliated/punkass)
20:38.48*** join/#openzaurus hitz (n=hitz@50.205.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es)
20:38.50hitzhi
20:39.17summatusmentishi hitz
20:39.23summatusmentissorry PlastikOwl, I was working outside
20:46.46hitz<PROTECTED>
20:47.09hitzI have installed some applications like opie-go without problems
20:47.43hitzbut I only see a simbolic link in /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/go
20:48.08hitzbut this:  go -> /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/quicklauncher
20:48.24summatusmentisyou're not likely going to be able to get that to work
20:48.35hitzwhy?
20:48.42summatusmentisit's difficult(perhaps impossible) to use GPE and opie apps
20:48.50hitzshit...
20:48.51summatusmentisyou can run GPE and OPIE at the same time
20:49.03hitzI know
20:49.28hitzbut I don't like this
20:49.31summatusmentisI think the reason it doesn't work is due to library version conflicts and so forth, can I ask why you're trying to use oPie apps?
20:49.45summatusmentisand what Z you have?
20:49.54hitzbecause I want some opie applications
20:50.01hitz5500
20:50.21summatusmentishrm... there aren't GPE equivalents to these opie apps?
20:50.44hitzI think not..
20:51.07summatusmentishrm... yeah, it's gonna be pretty hard to get working, if it can be gotten working
20:51.20hitzok
20:52.00hitzthat explains why I didn't find any informattion about it..
20:52.16summatusmentisit's also possible that very few people have tried it
20:52.24hitzok
20:53.03summatusmentisin theory, it could work, being similar to using KDE programs under gnome, but in practice, I think that it's gonna be very hard to do
20:53.31summatusmentisthere are some working on a qt4 lib for x11 in angstrom, but that's still pretty alpha(maybe beta, but I'd doubt it) software
20:54.09hitzansgstrom and zaurus5500 are not good frends...
20:54.27summatusmentistrue, not yet anyway
20:54.30hitzangstrom only works with 2.6 kernel
20:54.58hitzand I think is possible 2.6 kernel never will be stable for 5500
20:55.18summatusmentiswhy do you say that?
20:55.21Zero_Chaoshitz: it is far more likely that it will work fine in the near future
20:55.30hitzZero_Chaos: you think?
20:55.56hitzSL-5500 2.6 kernel General Information:
20:55.57hitzProblematic support: * Touchscreen (suffers bad interference)
20:55.57hitzUnsupported: * Suspend/Resume * Battery/Charging * MMC/SD (no documentation on the controller) * USB Client * Sound
20:55.59Zero_Chaoshitz: yes, there have been at least two alpha releases of sd drivers for collie and that is the only problem with 2.6
20:56.16Zero_Chaoshitz: that is old.
20:57.30summatusmentisZero_Chaos: I had heard that it's still pretty... buggy, I guess
20:57.48hitzZero_Chaos: what is the acctual state?
20:57.53Zero_Chaossummatusmentis: getting better though, I'm sure it will work.
20:58.03Zero_Chaoshitz: alpha testing.
20:58.21hitzthere are support to TouchScreen?
20:58.48Zero_Chaosto my knowledge yes, but my collie was stolen so I've not tested it
20:59.02summatusmentishitz: afaik, SD was the only thing not working, and they've gotten that working, apparently
20:59.03hitzthen I should try it
20:59.13hitzok
20:59.35summatusmentisthere are no GUI images provided by angstrom for the 5500
21:00.04hitzthen, 2.6 kernel will have support to SDHC?
21:00.15hitz(more than 2GB cards)
21:01.14Zero_Chaosthere are more than 2GB cards that are not SDHC
21:01.24Zero_Chaosand no, SDHC will not be supported in collie, nor sdio
21:01.29Zero_Chaoslikely ever
21:01.41hitzok
21:01.42Zero_Chaosfrom what I understand, collie is missing a pin
21:02.49hitzI want to try Angstrom
21:03.08hitzThe newest versions of OZ will be with ansgtrom?
21:03.19Zero_Chaosthere will be no new versions of OZ
21:03.24Zero_Chaosit is now Angstrom
21:03.34hitzok
21:03.39hitzthen I must install ANgstrom
21:03.40Zero_Chaosand if you want to try it, you would be useful.  You can report bugs, and test things
21:04.05hitzyes
21:04.43Zero_Chaoshitz: and if you like opie, http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpieWithAngstrom
21:05.01hitzI love gpe
21:05.08hitzand also gnome, jeje
21:05.15hitzbut thanks
21:05.38Zero_Chaosfair enough.  then I'd get OpenEmbedded and start building :-) or if angstrom has images for collie.
21:06.20summatusmentisdamn, that means i should start testing angstrom w/ collie :-/
21:06.32Zero_Chaossummatusmentis: you can if you like
21:06.54summatusmentisZero_Chaos: I should, I want angstrom to be the best possible
21:07.10summatusmentisbut that means I need USB net working, and just speding time w/ my collie
21:07.16summatusmentisI'm spoiled by terrier
21:07.20Zero_Chaossummatusmentis: BTW, packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.20/ has a patch to remove prism2 pciids from orinco drivers... you should port it back to OZ for jamie or whoever he was
21:07.36summatusmentisJesseG2
21:07.39Zero_Chaossummatusmentis: I can not confirm usb networking working
21:07.44Zero_Chaosnor can I deny it
21:07.46hitz:(
21:08.06hitzI don't have a Wireless Card
21:08.11summatusmentisZero_Chaos: port it back to OZ, anything special needed there? or just a compile?
21:08.39hitzI only can connect zaurus to internet with UsbNet
21:09.14Zero_Chaossummatusmentis: likely you will have to manually apply the patch, but yeah, pretty simple
21:09.30summatusmentisZero_Chaos: oh, ok, I didn't know if something special was needed
21:09.47summatusmentisnext time I see him, I'll get started on that
21:10.31Zero_Chaostest Angstrom, if it works well, no point in backporting the patch anyway :-)
21:11.04summatusmentislol, last time I checked, I couldn't get a collie image to build
21:11.28Zero_Chaosbuilding "angstrom-x11-image"?
21:12.36summatusmentisI think so
21:12.44summatusmentisI don't remember, I'll have to try again
21:12.59summatusmentisI've gotta head out, pick up soccer game :-D
21:13.24Zero_Chaospeace
21:15.03hitzI go to dinner
21:15.14hitzIn Spain are 23:15h
21:15.22hitzthanks Zero_Chaos and summatusmentis
21:15.25hitzbye
21:34.29*** join/#openzaurus ProfFrink (n=proffrin@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk)
22:16.21CoreDump|homehi
23:13.10*** join/#openzaurus Greg2 (n=Greg@pool-68-236-248-178.hag.east.verizon.net)
23:13.18Greg2hello all
23:17.01Greg2g'night
23:28.22*** join/#openzaurus Jabapyth (n=Jabapyth@pool-70-19-145-118.bos.east.verizon.net)
23:29.18JabapythFor some reason my sd card is being recognized as a read-only file system. How do I fix that?

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.