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| 00:53.32 | Zeroth404 | suggestions for file/partition encryption on collie? |
| 00:56.04 | Zeroth404 | losetup doesn't support the -e option (encryption) either |
| 00:56.23 | NAbyss | Zeroth404: dm_crypt? |
| 00:56.33 | Zeroth404 | googling |
| 00:57.49 | Zeroth404 | dm_crypt requites kernel 2.6 it seems |
| 00:58.11 | Zeroth404 | I'm workin with 2.4.18 |
| 01:02.34 | NAbyss | ah, I thought collie had 2.6 these days |
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| 05:24.57 | Jabapyth | is there an fsck for OZ? |
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| 10:39.41 | XorA | NOTE: package libsigc++-2.0-2.0.17: completed |
| 10:42.04 | XorA | hrw: that was for you |
| 10:42.13 | hrw | on wrong channel ;d |
| 10:43.24 | XorA | hrw: yeah :-) |
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| 12:34.37 | RickH | Does anyone know how to find/download the source code for OZ 3.5.4.x? |
| 12:34.50 | RickH | And, does anyone know the homepage for the Angstrom project? |
| 12:40.38 | summatusmentis | RickH: setup OE, and get the org.openembedded.oz354x branch |
| 12:40.49 | summatusmentis | and www.angstrom-distribution.org |
| 12:40.59 | RickH | thanks |
| 12:42.47 | summatusmentis | sure thing |
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| 18:32.00 | mimecar | hi |
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| 19:02.00 | Zeroth|work | I've got 3.5.3. would it be woth updating to 3.5.4.1 or should I just go get angstrom? |
| 19:05.19 | webmind | afaik the differences where quite big |
| 19:05.20 | webmind | but uhm |
| 19:05.28 | webmind | is 3.5.4.1 still the latest release ? |
| 19:05.41 | Zeroth|work | yeah |
| 19:06.02 | Zeroth|work | I dont wanna fuss with stuff that isn't 'stable' |
| 19:07.29 | webmind | ah |
| 19:07.45 | webmind | well those are pretty stable I think |
| 19:07.54 | webmind | they''re pretty old already aswell :) |
| 19:08.00 | Zeroth|work | I meant angstrom |
| 19:09.11 | polyonymous | I think it also depends on whether you run opie or gpe |
| 19:09.36 | Zeroth|work | opie |
| 19:09.39 | Zeroth|work | of course ;-) |
| 19:10.52 | polyonymous | Well, opie has been changed a lot recently, so it may have new and better bugs, but I'd say it as about as stable as in OZ... |
| 19:11.03 | polyonymous | Actually, do you build yourself or use official feeds? |
| 19:11.14 | Zeroth|work | I do no compiling |
| 19:11.28 | Zeroth|work | never really cought on to the term "feed" |
| 19:11.41 | polyonymous | Then I think at the moment you don't have an option of installing opie angstrom then |
| 19:12.20 | polyonymous | feed is where you download binary packages from, but nevermind - of course you use official feeds if you don't compile |
| 19:13.08 | Zeroth|work | I just never really figured out why they called it that |
| 19:13.17 | polyonymous | because it feeds your Z?:) |
| 19:13.25 | Zeroth|work | what changed from 3.5.3 to 3.5.4.1? |
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| 19:13.39 | polyonymous | Let me know if you figure out why "bootstrap" is called like that :) |
| 19:14.01 | dcordes | Zeroth|work: switch to angstrom |
| 19:14.11 | polyonymous | And I have no idea about "recent" OZ changes, maybe someone else will shed the light. |
| 19:14.21 | polyonymous | dcordes, that's not an option, he doesn't compile and uses opie. |
| 19:14.33 | dcordes | what machine? |
| 19:14.39 | Zeroth|work | bootstrap means to like, compile gcc with gcc. |
| 19:14.46 | Zeroth|work | pull yourself up by your own bootstraps |
| 19:15.10 | Zeroth|work | I wouldn't mind compiling if it doesn't take 5 days ;-) |
| 19:15.20 | polyonymous | Zeroth|work, I normally compile overnight. |
| 19:15.31 | polyonymous | Zeroth|work, and it does take a lot of disk space |
| 19:15.38 | dcordes | Zeroth|work: what device do you use OZ on? |
| 19:15.39 | Zeroth|work | compiling is nothing new for me on a desktop pc |
| 19:15.49 | Zeroth|work | collie |
| 19:15.50 | dcordes | so where's the point? |
| 19:15.53 | dcordes | ah i see |
| 19:16.13 | polyonymous | dcordes, is there a machine for which we have official binary feed for opie packages? |
| 19:16.34 | polyonymous | Zeroth|work, well, setting up OE may still be somewhat tricky I've heard |
| 19:17.57 | Zeroth|work | what I would like the most is twofish support |
| 19:18.00 | Zeroth|work | which means a 2.6 kernel |
| 19:18.29 | Zeroth|work | I noticed losetup doesn't even have a -e (encryption) option on 3.5.3 |
| 19:18.38 | polyonymous | I have no idea about collie, but angstrom supports almost no 2.4 afaik |
| 19:20.27 | polyonymous | Zeroth|work, and do you have busybox losetup or util-linux? |
| 19:20.47 | Zeroth|work | busybox I believe |
| 19:20.49 | dcordes | polyonymous: no but I would kindly offer to make him an image if he had akita |
| 19:21.08 | polyonymous | dcordes, ah, I see. |
| 19:21.25 | dcordes | but anyways |
| 19:21.29 | dcordes | Zeroth|work: compile..... |
| 19:21.30 | polyonymous | I can build for collie, but it doesn't make much sense as I can't even test the image |
| 19:21.33 | dcordes | it's simple |
| 19:21.38 | Zeroth|work | busybox 1.00 wow |
| 19:21.38 | dcordes | you have many advantages afterwards |
| 19:21.45 | dcordes | ..etc.. |
| 19:21.51 | polyonymous | well, I don't know, for the one who doesn't want to fuss with unstable it may not be the right way |
| 19:22.30 | Zeroth|work | to compare to debian, I would liek to run testing rather than stable or unstable |
| 19:22.34 | Zeroth|work | thats about where I stand |
| 19:22.38 | polyonymous | Zeroth|work, you can try install util-linux. I've just checked - util-linux losetup on angstrom has -e option |
| 19:22.58 | Zeroth|work | yes, but 2.4 doesnt support twofish I don't think |
| 19:23.04 | Zeroth|work | I don't know /what/ 2.4 supports |
| 19:23.12 | polyonymous | Zeroth|work, do you have 2.4 |
| 19:23.13 | polyonymous | >? |
| 19:23.42 | Zeroth|work | yes |
| 19:23.54 | polyonymous | I think openzaurus.org is down... |
| 19:24.08 | polyonymous | and does "recent" oz have 2.6 ? |
| 19:24.22 | Zeroth|work | no idea |
| 19:24.39 | polyonymous | Zeroth|work, I'd suggest that you browse the feed, but if the site is down... |
| 19:25.06 | Zeroth|work | the feed exists elsewhere I think |
| 19:25.12 | polyonymous | ~collie |
| 19:25.12 | ibot | somebody said collie was sharp zaurus SL-5000 (often called SL-5000D because it was developer version) or SL-5500 (also SL-5500G with QWERTZ keyboard) or a dog |
| 19:25.13 | Zeroth|work | openzaurus.org doesn't host it |
| 19:25.24 | polyonymous | ah |
| 19:25.26 | Zeroth|work | lol |
| 19:25.45 | polyonymous | hentges? |
| 19:25.48 | Zeroth|work | all sl-5?00 have qwerty |
| 19:25.52 | dcordes | 2.4 lol |
| 19:26.04 | polyonymous | Zeroth|work, I think G is for "german" |
| 19:26.20 | Zeroth|work | hmm |
| 19:26.50 | polyonymous | http://hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/oz3.5.4.1-opie1.2.1.shtml - this? |
| 19:27.37 | Zeroth|work | never seen that one before |
| 19:28.02 | polyonymous | then I don't know where else collie's OZ can behosted. |
| 19:28.49 | polyonymous | and I still have no idea what kernel is that. |
| 19:28.51 | Zeroth|work | a bit down the page on openzaurus.org is a link to it |
| 19:29.12 | polyonymous | I can't open openzaurus.org... |
| 19:29.26 | Zeroth|work | me either |
| 19:29.29 | Zeroth|work | :-) |
| 19:29.38 | polyonymous | So... :) |
| 19:29.45 | Zeroth|work | some time ago it went from a webpage to a blog |
| 19:30.11 | polyonymous | well, I don't know, maybe that's related to oe problems. |
| 19:30.55 | Zeroth|work | it takes about 20 minutes to load any page from angstrom-distribution.or |
| 19:30.57 | Zeroth|work | g |
| 19:31.14 | polyonymous | wrong timing, Zeroth|work :) |
| 19:31.40 | Zeroth|work | its been that way for days... |
| 19:32.03 | polyonymous | yeah? Well, I don't visit web daily, but monotone repo was okay yesterday, I believe. |
| 19:32.23 | Zeroth|work | I don't know what monotone is :-p |
| 19:32.33 | polyonymous | Zero_Chaos, SCM used by OE |
| 19:32.43 | polyonymous | Zeroth|work, I meant you :) |
| 19:33.11 | polyonymous | 0-people :) |
| 19:33.16 | Zeroth|work | SCM...Something....Comething...Manager |
| 19:33.22 | polyonymous | source code |
| 19:33.25 | Zeroth|work | ah |
| 19:33.42 | polyonymous | think cvs/svn/git :) |
| 19:34.14 | Zeroth|work | oe loads not |
| 19:34.24 | Zeroth|work | the whole shebang is screwed |
| 19:34.35 | polyonymous | oe does. it just takes like a couple of minutes :) |
| 19:34.50 | Zeroth|work | ah, like angstrom |
| 19:35.06 | polyonymous | yup, maybe they share the same infrastructure, I don't know |
| 19:36.01 | Zeroth|work | who here chooses GPE over OPIE and why? |
| 19:36.30 | polyonymous | Well, the status of opie development makes me eye gpe, but I don't think I'm about to switch yet |
| 19:36.51 | Zeroth|work | is opie development catching on? |
| 19:36.55 | Zeroth|work | or losing ground? |
| 19:37.15 | polyonymous | well, it's a bit better this week, but opie seemed to be quite dead for a while. |
| 19:37.33 | polyonymous | I don't think I can comment on this really, it's quite complicated issue. |
| 19:37.37 | Zeroth|work | well at some point there should be nothing left to do...unless a new handheld is released |
| 19:38.08 | polyonymous | well, nobody knows why, but unmaintained software ceases to work in a while :) |
| 19:38.21 | polyonymous | actually, new release of gcc may also break lotsa stuff |
| 19:38.51 | polyonymous | oz.org finally came up with response "Error establishing a database connection" |
| 19:39.06 | Zeroth|work | still loading for me |
| 19:39.17 | Zeroth|work | oe stopped. "connection was reset" |
| 19:39.35 | polyonymous | Well, I don't quite think that this response is an achievement :) |
| 19:40.33 | Zeroth|work | what OS you running? |
| 19:40.40 | polyonymous | you mean on desktop? |
| 19:41.02 | Zeroth|work | nah |
| 19:41.03 | Zeroth|work | handheld |
| 19:41.11 | polyonymous | angstrom with opie mostly |
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| 20:53.10 | YoG | can anyone tell me how to change the default shell from sh to bash? |
| 21:01.52 | NAbyss | YoG: change your shell in /etc/passwd? |
| 21:04.44 | summatusmentis | NAbyss: is it possible to itbake multiple packages at once? (bitbake <package1> <package2> <package3>) |
| 21:10.00 | NAbyss | summatusmentis: Yes |
| 21:10.40 | summatusmentis | thanks |
| 21:16.29 | YoG | NAbyss: If I do this I can't ssh to the zaurus |
| 21:33.49 | YoG | NAbyss: so install openssh-sshd ;-) |
| 21:34.00 | YoG | NAbyss: thanx |
| 22:19.42 | CoreDump|home | hi |