IRC log for #openzaurus on 20070716

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00:02.34*** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | No new releases - we switched to Angstrom | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4/3.5.4.1 | Feed browser: http://openzaurus.org/feed-browser/ | feeds.openzaurus.org rotates through all available mirrors
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08:07.25*** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | No new releases - we switched to Angstrom | http://www.openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | Current release: 3.5.4/3.5.4.1 | Feed browser: http://openzaurus.org/feed-browser/ | feeds.openzaurus.org rotates through all available mirrors
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11:06.22thunkthi all, is there a way to link old dependency requirements to newer versions?
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16:51.28mindbreakerhi
16:52.05mindbreakerwhich software I need to compile Zaurus applications on my computer?
16:52.13mindbreakerI use linux
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21:45.50go1dfishso I just got a C3100 off ebay
21:46.09go1dfishwhat rom should I put on it, considering pdaxrom? but I've never tried it
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21:56.32MooglyGuyAre there any online resources where I could find register descriptions, functionality, memory maps, etc. for the Zaurus line, specifically the SL-5500?  I've found the SA-1110 docs, so that covers the majority of the register set, but it doesn't say where RAM is located, etc.
21:56.47MooglyGuySearching on Google isn't turning up terribly many results.
21:57.16CoreDump|homehi
21:58.08MooglyGuyHi
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22:07.05MooglyGuyActive channel.
22:10.17Prof_FrinkMore active'n #dorset
22:12.57MooglyGuyTrue
22:13.01MooglyGuyEveryone's probably at work right now, too.
22:13.38go1dfishthough luckily my employer is not hostile to IRC
22:14.47CoreDump|homeactually a lot of Z users and devs are from Europe and probably in bed right now ;)
22:15.42Prof_FrinkNope, it's only 23:15 BST
22:15.44CoreDump|homego1dfish: fwiw, Angstrom runs nicely on spitz but does have some rough edges
22:15.53go1dfishCoreDump|home: what are the rough edges?
22:16.36CoreDump|homefor one APM screen dimming is broken, sometimes the backlight will not come back on after resuming. Some apps not working etc
22:17.14MooglyGuyOff Friday through Tuesday to recoup from finalling the last project, fun fun
22:17.29go1dfishCoreDump|home: can you manually turn the backlight back on after resuming?
22:17.55CoreDump|homethat _should_ work now using Fn+3 / Fn+4
22:18.00go1dfishwell I have a SL-6000L a 5500 and now the C3100
22:18.13go1dfishand a cf wifi card for the C3100
22:18.14CoreDump|homehowever, sometimes the configured hotkeys do not work after a resume...
22:18.28CoreDump|homego1dfish: hows that 6000 doing?
22:18.46go1dfishis it possible to do bluetooth dun on oz? and anyone have experience with this?
22:19.12go1dfishI carry a treo 650 with an unlimited dataplan, and I think bluetooth would draw less power than wifi, and likely stick out less on the C3100
22:19.20go1dfishCoreDump|home: love it, makes a great ebook reader
22:19.36go1dfishunfortunately, my battery is getting old and I can't find a replacement, so wifi on it kind of sucks
22:19.38CoreDump|homego1dfish: indeed! I wish it wasn't so bloody expensive :\
22:20.00go1dfishyeah, I got mine for $400 of ebay about 6 months after they came out
22:20.11go1dfishsomebody won one at a trade show, but they forgot to give him the dock
22:20.12CoreDump|homegood price
22:20.16go1dfishand he wanted another toy
22:20.20go1dfishand I was the only bid
22:20.23CoreDump|homelol
22:20.34CoreDump|homelucky b*stard =)
22:20.35go1dfishonly gadget I've ever bought that's appreciated
22:20.54go1dfishI got the C3100 for $300 on ebay with wireless card
22:21.01CoreDump|homeI was told the built-in WIFI sucks ( no Oss driver?)
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22:21.08go1dfishjust received it today, still running the japanese rom
22:21.13go1dfishCoreDump|home: yep, suspend issues mainly
22:21.18go1dfishit runs on the USB bus
22:21.36go1dfishprism2 chipset
22:21.51CoreDump|homehmm prism2 support should be very good?
22:21.58go1dfishnot over usb aparantly
22:22.18CoreDump|homedarn
22:22.28CoreDump|homeI wish my 5500 was still alive =(
22:22.34go1dfishin the 2.6 kernel (at least in the last oz release) if you suspend with wifi up, you can't resume
22:22.34CoreDump|homebest ebook reader ever
22:22.51go1dfishCoreDump|home: not as good as the 6000 ;) beautiful screen
22:22.55CoreDump|homereally? That could be worked-around
22:23.17go1dfishbut the suspend/resume issue is worse when compounded with an older battery
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22:23.30go1dfishif I have wifi on, the z will shut off at about 50% battery capacity
22:23.35CoreDump|homego1dfish: yeah, its screen is even better than the beautiful SL-Cxxx screes
22:23.38go1dfishand because of the bug, won't resume
22:23.46CoreDump|homeugh
22:24.00go1dfishalso, seems like whenever I resume the thing, or turn it on, the wifi tries to come up
22:24.13go1dfishI've tried messing with the apm scripts and such, but can't make it stop
22:24.16CoreDump|homebloody nice hardware but way ugly kernel support =\
22:24.24go1dfishyep :(
22:24.32go1dfishstill makes a good ebook reader though
22:24.38go1dfish<3 FBReader
22:24.56go1dfishso I'm not sure which of the 2 is going to be the one I carry around with me
22:25.02CoreDump|homeopie-reader >>> FBreader
22:25.10go1dfishwill depend on how good I can gett the battery life on the C3100 most likely
22:25.16go1dfishI'm running gpe on it
22:25.30go1dfishand using remind/todo.sh for PIM, going to set up subversion for it
22:25.36CoreDump|homeso am I. Still, fbreader sucks _bad_ compared to opie-reader
22:25.39go1dfishdidiwiki as well
22:26.02go1dfishif all your PIM data is plaintext, SVN is a nice way to sync :) well thats my theory
22:26.10go1dfishhaven't gotten everything in place
22:26.40go1dfishbut I've been using svn to track my config files in ~/ on my other boxes for quite a while
22:26.42CoreDump|homeI don't sync =)
22:27.06go1dfishthe 5500 front lit screen makes for nice night reading
22:27.09CoreDump|home( I don't use the Zs for OIM)
22:27.12CoreDump|home*PIM
22:27.15go1dfishthe 6000 can be overly bright
22:27.33go1dfishI haven't in the past either, but I want to try a full text setup, I might be more apt to use it that way then
22:28.00CoreDump|homeright
22:28.42go1dfishalso with svn, I can get all my appointments, todo etc.. out to my other machines easily
22:29.01go1dfishwhich will make me more likely to use it I think
22:29.11CoreDump|homeI may think about syncing when the lovely Neo1973 takes off / is useable
22:29.27go1dfishheh, yeah looking forward to that, aside from the lack of keyboard
22:29.44XorA|gonegpe can sync with funambol, which is run by syncworld
22:29.47go1dfishI want to eventually switch my treo over to linux fulltime once the modem/calls are working
22:29.47CoreDump|homeBT keyboards work just fine heh
22:30.11go1dfishmeh, I like always having a keyboard available
22:30.24CoreDump|homeI have a Neo here. Pretty useless ATM :\
22:30.33go1dfishthough the clamshell formfactor is pretty cool to
22:30.41go1dfishCoreDump|home: does it have a mp3 player?
22:30.45CoreDump|homego1dfish: not for a cellphone
22:31.06CoreDump|homego1dfish: not yet, but mplayer is useable and sox is pre-installed IIRC
22:31.24go1dfishyeah zaurus style clamshell wouldn't work well as a phone
22:31.59go1dfishI really want a single device, even if it's the size of the 6000 or zaurus clamshell, that acts as my phone, pda, etc... with always on internet access
22:32.17go1dfishCoreDump|home: if you get the chance, see if you can get this working on it :) http://mp3tunes.com/m
22:32.21go1dfishdisclaimer: I work there
22:32.30go1dfishuse demo/demo
22:32.40go1dfisherr, demo@mp3tunes.com / demo that is
22:33.16go1dfishI got it working on my 6000 with links/mplayer at the moment
22:34.19CoreDump|homethen it will work just as well on Neo
22:35.06go1dfishI'm looking forward to the neo, should bring on some cool software for linux based smartphones
22:35.17go1dfishjust don't particularly like the formfactor they are going with
22:35.19CoreDump|homewe all hope so =)
22:35.49go1dfishso eventually I can run openmoko on my treo, and everyone will be happy :)
22:35.53CoreDump|homeIt's not exactly slim heh
22:36.09CoreDump|homeyes, OM will eventually run on many devices
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