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| 03:36.27 | Zeroth404 | I noticed that the ram on my Collie is mounted as tmpfs... does that mean if I reboot it, it will all be erased? |
| 03:36.47 | Zeroth404 | because I've installed a bunch of packaged to ram (not enough space on root) |
| 03:36.54 | Zero_Chaos | correct |
| 03:37.02 | Zeroth404 | damn |
| 03:37.14 | Zero_Chaos | highly recommended to pivot root to SD for the collie, direction should be obvious on the wiki |
| 03:37.48 | Zeroth404 | seems ideal would be to just keep root on the flash, and install extra packages on an SD/CF, no? |
| 03:38.31 | Zero_Chaos | Zeroth404: um, no. here is what you want, Base (mostly un)usable system in flash, real root filesystem on SD using altboot. |
| 03:39.01 | Zero_Chaos | Zeroth404: here is why, when you don't install stuff into /, you need to symlink it so it can be found, and symlinks are 4kb each, which fills that little flash very fast |
| 03:39.28 | Zero_Chaos | plus, if you write to your SD card too many times you may have to buy a new now, but if you write to your flash too many times... bye bye Collie |
| 03:40.32 | Zeroth404 | how is it that this fascinating wonderful technology could be so fragile, eh? |
| 03:45.18 | Zeroth404 | "Warning: these instructions are unclear, especially on what kernel to use. They will leave you with a non booting system if you use the 3.5.4.2-rc2 zimage and initrd from hentges as instructed(?). 3.5.4 kernels do work." |
| 03:45.21 | Zeroth404 | that's reassuring |
| 03:45.21 | Zero_Chaos | you only get a few 1000 writes to flash. |
| 03:45.38 | Zero_Chaos | Zeroth404: you may wish to check out Angstrom ;-) |
| 03:45.48 | Zeroth404 | I'm watching Anstrom like a hawk |
| 03:45.52 | Zeroth404 | does not suport collie atm |
| 03:46.01 | Zeroth404 | and opie requires lots of work to compile |
| 03:46.21 | Zero_Chaos | indeed |
| 03:48.10 | xjqian | yeah, opie carries a lot of historical burden, both in itself and user-space programs |
| 03:49.30 | xjqian | but with some effort, it could still be a very viable desktop env for my Z |
| 03:49.58 | Zeroth404 | I tried GPE once upon a time. thought it was crap (no offense to the developers, of course) |
| 03:52.36 | CoreDump | GPE begins to shine on 640x480 |
| 03:52.44 | CoreDump | not on collies QVGA |
| 03:52.46 | Zero_Chaos | agreed |
| 03:52.53 | Zero_Chaos | QVGA GPE == puke |
| 03:53.03 | Zero_Chaos | Opie shines on QVGA |
| 03:53.19 | xjqian | GPE still has quite a few bugs |
| 03:53.36 | Zeroth404 | "Note that when installing new software, you should NOT choose sd as the destination. " <-- why is that? |
| 03:53.43 | xjqian | but considering it's age compared to opie, this is understandable |
| 03:54.09 | Zero_Chaos | Zeroth404: because you pivoted root to SD so you should install to root |
| 03:54.23 | Zeroth404 | but... it's the same thing? |
| 03:54.52 | CoreDump | in that case yes |
| 03:54.55 | Zero_Chaos | no, installing to SD installs to the sd mount point and makes a symlink to root |
| 03:55.03 | Zeroth404 | ah |
| 03:56.34 | Zeroth404 | the link to the "rootfs tarballs (*-rootfs.tar.gz)" is dead. |
| 03:57.00 | Zero_Chaos | yeah, that one I can't help you, dig around |
| 03:57.11 | Zero_Chaos | sorry, if my collie was not stolen I would know more. |
| 03:57.21 | CoreDump | Zeroth404: url? |
| 03:57.30 | Zeroth404 | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.2-test/rc2 <-- dead |
| 03:57.47 | Zeroth404 | and theres nothing about collie in parent dirs |
| 03:58.53 | CoreDump | hmm, I didn't mirror the test stuff |
| 03:59.40 | Zeroth404 | I would prefer 3.5.4 anyway, as that is known to be stable on collie |
| 03:59.53 | CoreDump | http://mirror.hentges.net/www.openzaurus.org/ |
| 04:00.05 | Zero_Chaos | Zeroth404: I agree, until angstrom supports collie |
| 04:00.37 | Zeroth404 | I guess http://mirror.hentges.net/www.openzaurus.org/3.5.4/images/collie/tarballs/ is what I'm after? |
| 04:01.42 | CoreDump | for SD installation? yes. But you'll have to flash an updated .jffs2 image + kernel as well |
| 04:02.10 | Zeroth404 | I've already flashed 3.5.4 with opie |
| 04:02.17 | CoreDump | np then |
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| 17:44.58 | puckman | hello |
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| 19:11.03 | mimecar | hi |
| 19:11.21 | puckman | hi |
| 19:13.54 | puckman | do you know how to use fdisk? |
| 19:16.02 | mimecar | have you a c3200? |
| 19:16.36 | puckman | yes |
| 19:16.41 | puckman | with an erased hd |
| 19:16.54 | mimecar | do you want install angstrom? |
| 19:16.59 | puckman | nope |
| 19:17.07 | mimecar | or openzaurus |
| 19:17.08 | puckman | just trying to restore it to default settings |
| 19:17.10 | puckman | nope |
| 19:17.22 | puckman | I restored the original nand |
| 19:17.42 | puckman | but it refuses to boot as the HD does not have the right partition table |
| 19:18.23 | mimecar | ok, i can't help you, i'ven't work with partitions on console |
| 19:18.49 | puckman | ok |
| 19:18.55 | puckman | thanks for replying |
| 19:19.02 | puckman | started to think these channels were dead |
| 19:19.21 | mimecar | it's not |
| 19:19.37 | mimecar | but sometimes, people is working with the irc active |
| 19:20.14 | mimecar | test again later |
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| 19:23.01 | mimecar | puckman: can you enter on #angstrom ? |
| 19:23.07 | mimecar | there's a boy with c3200 |
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