| 00:02:39 | scanline | is away: food |
| 00:10:06 | Xentac | is back (gone 09:03:13) |
| 00:10:13 | file | wb |
| 00:10:34 | file | and I'm gone |
| 00:11:30 | Xentac | thanks |
| 00:23:37 | gonkulator | hi Xentac |
| 00:23:41 | Xentac | hey gonkulator |
| 00:23:49 | Xentac | how's it going? |
| 00:23:52 | gonkulator | pretty good |
| 00:23:58 | Xentac | that's good |
| 00:24:12 | gonkulator | I have been feeling a bit off, but I figured out why, and have started fixing what was wrong |
| 00:24:13 | Xentac | is going to have to worry about dinner fairly soon... |
| 00:24:37 | | oz prerelease is http://openzaurus.sf.net/official/unstable/20021011_1801/ |
| 00:24:38 | Xentac | ibot: oz prerelease |
| 00:42:08 | scanline | is back (gone 00:39:29) |
| 00:42:12 | file | is also back |
| 00:42:12 | gonkulator | hi scanline |
| 00:42:23 | Xentac | hey scanline |
| 00:42:43 | scanline | hi |
| 00:42:48 | file | takes a gulp of pepsi and his stomach gives an abnormal heave |
| 00:42:53 | gonkulator | completes the programming specifications |
| 00:42:54 | file | oh no... I can't handle pepsi |
| 00:53:22 | Xentac | is away: ta ta |
| 00:53:26 | gonkulator | later Xentac |
| 00:56:16 | file | great - I think IE crashed |
| 00:57:04 | file | scanline: I don't expect this DCC to be very fast - it's going over my wireless |
| 00:57:15 | scanline | doesn't care |
| 00:57:26 | file | k |
| 00:57:43 | file | my entire body hurts |
| 00:58:03 | scanline | oh boy, did carpman's pain stick work? |
| 00:58:16 | file | I think so |
| 00:58:42 | file | scanline: that file is so big and yet so short :p |
| 00:58:48 | file | 256kbps? |
| 00:58:54 | scanline | yes |
| 00:59:03 | file | oh well |
| 00:59:13 | scanline | almost 7 minutes long |
| 00:59:19 | file | I need some trance on aramius anyway |
| 00:59:26 | scanline | this isn't quite trance |
| 00:59:32 | file | deletes it |
| 00:59:41 | scanline | it's still good |
| 01:00:00 | gonkulator | scanline: what is it? |
| 01:00:26 | scanline | Southern Sun, from Bunkka |
| 01:00:35 | file[dcc] | send another DJ Doboy here |
| 01:00:41 | gonkulator | scanline: where is it on navi? I'll scp it |
| 01:01:12 | file[dcc] | no not to file LOL |
| 01:01:16 | file[dcc] | to me, file[dcc] |
| 01:01:27 | file[dcc] | is on droid - in theory it'll be faster |
| 01:01:37 | gonkulator | scanline: I'll find it, never mind |
| 01:01:39 | scanline | /navi/public/media/music/paul_oakenfold/bunkka/02 southern_sun_vocals_carla_werner.mp3 |
| 01:01:55 | gonkulator | scanline: oh, thanks :) |
| 01:02:08 | scanline | "view file info" in xmms, cut&paste |
| 01:02:34 | scanline | I'm sending this one to file -> /navi/public/media/music/streamrip/dj_doboy/(wwwdjdoboycom)-trancequility megamix volume 20.mp3 |
| 01:03:45 | gonkulator | scanline: thanks ;) |
| 01:03:57 | file | lalala |
| 01:04:02 | file | see? faster on droid |
| 01:04:14 | file | my wireless tops out at about 50kilobytes/sec |
| 01:04:22 | scanline | that's disgusting |
| 01:04:30 | file | it's good enough for what I do :) |
| 01:04:43 | file | that's enough MP3s for now btw |
| 01:04:50 | file | has a few good hours of trance now |
| 01:04:56 | scanline | i'ts just wrong to have an internet connection faster than your wireless... |
| 01:05:10 | file | nudges this DCC to be faster |
| 01:05:12 | gonkulator | scanline: and your one to talk...? |
| 01:05:24 | file | lol |
| 01:05:28 | scanline | gonkulator: the 'net connection has been relatively slow this year |
| 01:05:37 | file | probably limited it |
| 01:05:43 | scanline | no, it's campus-wide |
| 01:05:54 | scanline | more people using peer-to-peer software mostly |
| 01:06:01 | file | oh my, it keeps dropping down |
| 01:06:09 | file | wishes it was at his nice 130KB/sec |
| 01:06:21 | file | I only get those on really nice servers... |
| 01:07:09 | gonkulator | scanline: this bandwidth isn't as good as it was last year... |
| 01:07:10 | file | scanline: I don't like the Paul Oakenfold one |
| 01:07:23 | scanline | gonkulator: Isn't that what I just said? :) |
| 01:07:30 | gonkulator | notes that Oakenfold was only good when he was new :) |
| 01:07:35 | gonkulator | scanline: I was agreeing with you |
| 01:07:40 | scanline | file: I'm not sending you a paul oakenfold song |
| 01:07:41 | gonkulator | I am watching my SCP go slow |
| 01:07:46 | file | scanline: you already sent me one |
| 01:07:56 | scanline | file: oh, didn't know that completed |
| 01:08:06 | file | yup - completed awhile ago |
| 01:08:47 | file | no more!!! |
| 01:08:54 | file | 3 hours of trance is more than enough for me |
| 01:09:06 | gonkulator | scanline: are you flooding file :) |
| 01:09:11 | file | hits cancel on these DCC sends |
| 01:09:14 | scanline | a little... not really though |
| 01:09:53 | file | scanline: Nelly Furtado is in this... |
| 01:09:57 | file | I think |
| 01:10:05 | merlin262 | hey gonkulator when are you going to send out that email? |
| 01:10:07 | file | it sounds like her |
| 01:10:13 | file | has no clue though |
| 01:10:13 | gonkulator | merlin262: tomorrow |
| 01:10:28 | merlin262 | what time tho? |
| 01:10:32 | gonkulator | merlin262: tomorrow at 3:00 PM MST |
| 01:10:38 | merlin262 | ahhh |
| 01:10:59 | gonkulator | it is all composed, just waiting to be sent :) |
| 01:11:19 | file | hits Send |
| 01:11:44 | gonkulator | file: want me to put you in the cc list? |
| 01:12:57 | file | gonkulator: yes please |
| 01:13:05 | file | just send it to joshnet@nbnet.nb.ca |
| 01:13:10 | file | should go make file@nbnet.nb.ca |
| 01:13:24 | merlin262 | hits send too |
| 01:13:25 | merlin262 | =D |
| 01:13:34 | gonkulator | getting to you eh? |
| 01:13:41 | merlin262 | curious |
| 01:13:42 | merlin262 | lol |
| 01:14:24 | gonkulator | hehehehe |
| 01:14:26 | gonkulator | tomorrow |
| 01:14:56 | file | done |
| 01:15:04 | file | file@nbnet.nb.ca has been created :) |
| 01:15:17 | file | nch in 13 years |
| 01:15:18 | file | <Smirnoff> but i remember a bit |
| 01:15:18 | file | <MeGs> the conjugation of it? |
| 01:15:18 | file | <Smirnoff> <MeGs> j'adore danser |
| 01:15:18 | file | <Smirnoff> makes 2 of us |
| 01:15:18 | file | <file> j'ai danse, is I dance |
| 01:15:20 | file | <file> I think... |
| 01:15:22 | file | <Smirnoff> voulez vous danser avec moi? |
| 01:15:24 | file | <MeGs> yeah and j'adore danser |
| 01:15:26 | file | <file> non |
| 01:15:28 | file | <MeGs> means i love to dance |
| 01:15:28 | gonkulator | adds file to the cc list |
| 01:15:30 | file | <file> like :p |
| 01:15:32 | file | <file> love, like, love |
| 01:15:34 | file | * file goes against everything MeGs says |
| 01:15:36 | file | <MeGs> apparently |
| 01:15:38 | file | <K_Special> Smirnoff dancer :) |
| 01:15:40 | file | <K_Special> pas danser :) |
| 01:15:42 | file | <Smirnoff> sorry |
| 01:15:44 | file | OOPS |
| 01:15:46 | file | wonders where that came from |
| 01:15:59 | file | I don't even remember copying that to my clipboard |
| 01:16:04 | gonkulator | file: STOP IT |
| 01:16:12 | gonkulator | you ass... |
| 01:16:14 | scanline | file: bastard |
| 01:16:23 | scanline | PicoBot: file is also a bastard |
| 01:16:24 | PicoBot | okay, scanline. |
| 01:16:25 | scanline | PicoBot: file is also a bastard |
| 01:16:25 | file | gonkulator: I didn't mean to |
| 01:16:26 | PicoBot | okay, scanline. |
| 01:16:36 | fragglet | PicoBot: jump! |
| 01:16:36 | PicoBot | sorry fragglet, this is strictly a "no jumping" channel |
| 01:16:43 | scanline | :) |
| 01:16:45 | gonkulator | fragglet :) |
| 01:17:00 | fragglet | i have jimi hendrix stuck in my head |
| 01:18:19 | file | and the download is done |
| 01:21:55 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 01:22:04 | gonkulator | tries to figure out scoring |
| 01:26:18 | merlin262 | the only file I haven't change yet is my vector class |
| 01:26:22 | merlin262 | hugs his vector class. |
| 01:27:38 | gonkulator | doesn't like the java vector class... |
| 01:27:49 | gonkulator | but I do see the value in it... |
| 01:27:58 | merlin262 | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/sdlsas/SDLSasteroids/SDLSasteroids/src/vector.h?rev=1.1.1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup |
| 01:31:26 | fragglet | PicoBot: pokey |
| 01:31:27 | PicoBot | fragglet: excuse me? |
| 01:31:28 | fragglet | PicoBot: pokeybot |
| 01:31:28 | PicoBot | MR NUTTY! |
| 01:31:31 | fragglet | PicoBot: pokeybot |
| 01:31:32 | PicoBot | MR NUTTY! |
| 01:31:33 | fragglet | PicoBot: pokeybot |
| 01:31:34 | PicoBot | THESE MINATURE SIZED FIREBRANDS ARE SO SAUCY AND MEAN SPIRITED, MARY-LOU RETTONS UNIT WILL NEED ADDITIONAL SHIELDING! |
| 01:42:24 | file | PicoBot: yow |
| 01:42:25 | PicoBot | Vote for ME -- I'm well-tapered, half-cocked, ill-conceived and TAX-DEFERRED! |
| 01:47:13 | fragglet | PicoBot: i love you |
| 01:47:13 | PicoBot | fragglet: excuse me? |
| 01:47:31 | fragglet | PicoBot: forget i love you |
| 01:47:32 | PicoBot | fragglet: I forgot i love you |
| 01:47:43 | fragglet | ;~( |
| 01:50:22 | gonkulator | oh my |
| 01:50:22 | gonkulator | scanline: which dj doboy should I download? |
| 01:57:01 | file | hello paq |
| 02:07:32 | paq | hiya file |
| 02:19:58 | scanline | gonkulator: 19, 20, and SSE2 are my favorites |
| 02:20:08 | gonkulator | scanline: I |
| 02:20:10 | gonkulator | er |
| 02:20:11 | scanline | but almost all of them are still good |
| 02:20:33 | gonkulator | I'll grab them all as soon as I get all of the three dead trolls in a baggie |
| 03:13:42 | gonkulator | there, all done with the requirements and judging parameters |
| 03:20:28 | merlin262 | whew! that was a lot of changing code. :/ |
| 03:20:58 | merlin262 | scanline: you going to do gonkulator's contest? |
| 03:20:58 | merlin262 | lol |
| 03:30:15 | scanline | sure |
| 03:30:27 | gonkulator | scanline: really??? |
| 03:30:30 | gonkulator | w00t!!! |
| 03:31:07 | merlin262 | lol |
| 03:31:20 | merlin262 | sense, noone on #sdl answered: Does SDL_DisplayFormat free the original surface? |
| 03:31:24 | merlin262 | anyone know???? |
| 03:31:33 | scanline | displayformat? |
| 03:31:35 | scanline | checks |
| 03:33:42 | scanline | looks like it doesn't |
| 03:33:50 | merlin262 | that's what I thought. |
| 03:34:16 | gonkulator | has his test program down to 535 bytes of source code |
| 03:34:30 | merlin262 | showoff |
| 03:34:32 | merlin262 | blehhhhh |
| 03:34:33 | gonkulator | the winner is going to be less than 400 bytes for sure |
| 03:34:45 | gonkulator | I am just trying to guage how this is going to play out |
| 03:39:53 | gonkulator | believe me when I say that this is a really simple program |
| 03:40:23 | scanline | any hints as to what it is? game? number theory? |
| 03:40:48 | scanline | oh.. I have a suggestion for an additional rule |
| 03:41:25 | scanline | I suggest that all whitespace (including newlines) not be counted in the program size, so we can format our programs for creativity |
| 03:41:43 | scanline | I really like the version of my tictactoe game that looks like a tictactoe board :) |
| 03:41:50 | merlin262 | lol |
| 03:41:56 | merlin262 | likes that idea too. |
| 03:42:06 | gonkulator | nope, just a ls -l to see |
| 03:42:15 | scanline | feh |
| 03:42:22 | scanline | ok, another suggestion... |
| 03:42:26 | gonkulator | alright |
| 03:42:51 | scanline | I suggest that you measure binary size by looking at the actual code segment, not the whole binary, so as not to include all the extra debug info gcc puts in there |
| 03:43:06 | gonkulator | how about I go by stripped binary size? |
| 03:43:08 | gonkulator | would that work? |
| 03:43:10 | scanline | no |
| 03:43:24 | gonkulator | why not? |
| 03:43:37 | scanline | there are still things like relocation symbols for dynamic linking |
| 03:43:41 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 03:44:09 | scanline | if you run "objdump -h" on the binary, you get a list of all the segments |
| 03:44:23 | scanline | ".text" is the code itself, and ".data" is any staically allocated data in the code |
| 03:44:30 | scanline | you want to add those together |
| 03:44:49 | gonkulator | ok |
| 03:45:14 | gonkulator | is talking to probe on the phone |
| 03:57:30 | gonkulator | ok, without too much work, I have the source code down to 408 bytes |
| 03:57:38 | gonkulator | so it will be really small |
| 04:00:20 | merlin262 | Nnnnnnnoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:00:23 | merlin262 | i've got a segfault |
| 04:00:27 | merlin262 | and I can't figure it out. :/ |
| 04:01:16 | gonkulator | puts some gdb on the stove to warm up |
| 04:03:10 | merlin262 | hrm. |
| 04:03:14 | merlin262 | and now it's gone away..... |
| 04:03:15 | merlin262 | :/ |
| 04:04:42 | merlin262 | found it! |
| 04:04:48 | merlin262 | now, why it would cause a segfault..... |
| 04:04:51 | merlin262 | ermmm..... |
| 04:06:21 | gonkulator | scanline: I like your idea about the .text and the .data for binary sizing |
| 04:07:06 | gonkulator | except OS X doesn't have objdump... |
| 04:09:59 | gonkulator | binary size isn't much of a factor though... |
| 04:10:13 | gonkulator | just enough so that it doesn't get huge |
| 04:14:22 | merlin262 | w00t |
| 04:14:34 | merlin262 | I've gained a 10x speed increase from the last release version. |
| 04:14:45 | gonkulator | merlin262: impressive |
| 04:15:02 | merlin262 | =D |
| 04:15:31 | scanline | merlin262: not updating the whole screen every frame anymore? |
| 04:15:36 | merlin262 | scanline: no |
| 04:15:38 | gonkulator | merlin262: is this like Apple's way of increasing speed by releasing slow beta versions? |
| 04:15:47 | merlin262 | scanline: i'm still updating the whole screen. :) |
| 04:15:59 | merlin262 | but I've greatly improved a lot of code... |
| 04:16:18 | merlin262 | and made it more compatible so it (almost) never falls back to software, among other things. |
| 04:17:00 | merlin262 | is currently working on the not updating the whole screen bit. |
| 04:17:42 | gonkulator | is getting food now |
| 04:17:59 | merlin262 | hrm, take it back, only 5x |
| 04:29:04 | merlin262 | hi Speedy2 |
| 04:29:22 | Speedy2 | Hi merlin262 |
| 04:32:00 | Speedy2 | What's up? |
| 04:32:20 | merlin262 | getting the bugs out of my new version of SDL Sasteroids. |
| 04:32:21 | merlin262 | blehhh |
| 04:33:37 | Speedy2 | Ah |
| 04:33:41 | Speedy2 | This is REALLY cool |
| 04:33:41 | Speedy2 | http://www.honda.com.au/HondaCars/About+Honda/Made+by+Honda/ecology/fcx-v4.htm |
| 04:33:53 | Speedy2 | Makes you think there might actually be some hope. |
| 04:34:10 | prpplague | merlin262: i heard a comedian once comment, "i've always they were called asteroids, seems like they'd be called hemroids and the others called asteroids..." |
| 04:34:18 | Speedy2 | lol |
| 04:34:36 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 04:35:04 | merlin262 | Speedy2: 404 error |
| 04:35:14 | Speedy2 | Maybe add an "l" at the end? |
| 04:35:43 | Speedy2 | The URL works for me (no l) |
| 04:35:47 | Speedy2 | I just tried in Mozilla |
| 04:35:49 | Speedy2 | What browser? |
| 04:35:56 | merlin262 | moz |
| 04:36:01 | Speedy2 | Weird. |
| 04:36:07 | Speedy2 | I forced a re-load and it's working for me. |
| 04:36:16 | Speedy2 | Shit |
| 04:36:18 | Speedy2 | Just stoped |
| 04:36:19 | Speedy2 | stopped |
| 04:36:24 | Speedy2 | bizarre! |
| 04:36:36 | merlin262 | what car is it Speedy2? |
| 04:37:34 | Speedy2 | It's a hydrogen fuel cell powered car. The really really cool thing (IMO) is the hydrogen re-fuel plant generates electricty to split hydrogen from water via solar power! :) |
| 04:37:41 | Speedy2 | re-fuel "station" |
| 04:37:59 | Speedy2 | I don't know what that site isn't working, it was working just a few seconds ago |
| 04:38:01 | merlin262 | kewl |
| 04:38:09 | Speedy2 | Anyway, the article is linked of Slashdot, so maybe try again later. |
| 04:38:48 | Speedy2 | The hydrogen burns very cleanly and outputs basically water |
| 04:56:54 | gonkulator | Speedy2: the only pollutants possible in burning hydrogen is nitrogen oxides, and those are rare |
| 04:57:00 | Speedy2 | Right |
| 04:57:15 | Speedy2 | hence "basically" |
| 04:57:22 | Speedy2 | It's very neat stuff |
| 04:57:32 | Speedy2 | I'm glad it's progressing forward. |
| 04:57:36 | gonkulator | me too |
| 04:58:15 | gonkulator | I am also fascinated by the fuel cell stuff that is going on. |
| 04:58:15 | merlin262 | now, to fix the old double spacing code... :/ |
| 04:58:16 | Speedy2 | I really wouldn't mind getting a Honda Hybrid, but I am not in a position to buy a new car :( |
| 04:58:29 | gonkulator | merlin262: good luck |
| 04:58:35 | merlin262 | thx |
| 04:58:37 | merlin262 | i'll need it |
| 04:58:38 | merlin262 | lol |
| 04:59:21 | gonkulator | Speedy2: I would get a smaller car, but with all the SUVs with bad drivers out there, I want something bigger |
| 04:59:28 | gonkulator | merlin262: :) |
| 04:59:32 | Speedy2 | The fuel economy on the hybrids is insanely good |
| 04:59:37 | Speedy2 | Well, I'm not too afraid of SUVs |
| 04:59:38 | gonkulator | knows |
| 04:59:41 | merlin262 | gets 33 mpg |
| 04:59:41 | merlin262 | =D |
| 04:59:48 | Speedy2 | merlin262: What car? |
| 04:59:51 | gonkulator | 65-70 MPG |
| 04:59:52 | merlin262 | Geo Prizm |
| 04:59:58 | gonkulator | in the hybrids :) |
| 05:00:12 | Speedy2 | Frankly, it's OK to drive a smaller car, because if an SUV crushes you, you'll die faster. |
| 05:00:15 | merlin262 | yeah, but you can't get a hybrid for $800 |
| 05:00:15 | merlin262 | =D |
| 05:00:45 | gonkulator | ugh... |
| 05:01:01 | gonkulator | I almost got nailed by an SUV once |
| 05:01:07 | gonkulator | scared the Tzchitt out of me |
| 05:01:07 | Speedy2 | What were you in? |
| 05:01:15 | gonkulator | I was in a Toyota Camry |
| 05:01:18 | Speedy2 | Hrm. |
| 05:01:37 | Speedy2 | I also do my best to avoid driving on highways during peak hours, that's where it's the most dangerous. |
| 05:01:40 | gonkulator | anyway, I have driven SUVs before, and they don't handle the best |
| 05:01:45 | Speedy2 | No, they suck. |
| 05:02:11 | gonkulator | slowing down and speeding up are painful too... |
| 05:02:24 | Speedy2 | They're just big pieces of shit |
| 05:02:30 | gonkulator | basically, I wonder why anyone would want to drive one |
| 05:02:35 | Speedy2 | And unfortunetly, like every other vehicle in Texas is an SUV or a truck |
| 05:02:57 | Speedy2 | Neither get good gas milage or handle very well. |
| 05:03:48 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 05:04:35 | gonkulator | I don't mind trucks that much |
| 05:04:53 | Speedy2 | They still get crap fuel economyu |
| 05:04:58 | Speedy2 | Economy even. |
| 05:05:10 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 05:05:16 | Speedy2 | So many people who own them don't ever use the truck capabilities, at least that's been my experience |
| 05:05:29 | gonkulator | I guess I just have an emotional response when I think SUV |
| 05:06:10 | Speedy2 | Yeah. |
| 05:06:21 | Speedy2 | Being in any near accident can scare you |
| 05:06:41 | gonkulator | I think I have good memories in trucks too ;) |
| 05:07:24 | gonkulator | but that is just me ;) |
| 05:08:57 | Speedy2 | <--- bored and going to bed. |
| 05:13:47 | merlin262 | you alive scanline? |
| 05:13:56 | gonkulator | is alive |
| 05:14:03 | scanline | maybe |
| 05:14:16 | merlin262 | is wondering whether or not clearing objects then redrawing them will be faster |
| 05:14:28 | scanline | huh? |
| 05:14:57 | merlin262 | well, in sasteroids, i have lots of overlap/etc... so I think if i clear objects, instead of redrawing the whole frame, it might end up slower. :/ |
| 05:15:14 | scanline | oh |
| 05:15:18 | scanline | that's not what I was talking about |
| 05:15:31 | scanline | I was talking about your call to SDL_UpdateRects |
| 05:15:39 | scanline | that should only cover the areas that have actually changed |
| 05:15:50 | merlin262 | ahhhh |
| 05:16:40 | scanline | so... I'd recommend creating a list of dirty rectangles covering the objects in motion, then rerender those areas |
| 05:16:50 | merlin262 | yes, that would work |
| 06:26:58 | Xentac | is back (gone 05:33:35) |
| 06:31:27 | merlin262 | after several hours of work, i'm back where I started |
| 06:31:28 | merlin262 | lol |
| 06:31:37 | scanline | :) |
| 06:31:48 | scanline | decided to spontaneously rip out a couple thousand lines of code and redo it |
| 06:32:47 | merlin262 | anyone here have an ibook? |
| 06:32:56 | scanline | carpman, gonkulator, and I |
| 06:32:57 | merlin262 | all these changes, just to get it running on mac's |
| 06:32:58 | merlin262 | blehhhh |
| 06:33:16 | scanline | just macs, or big-endian architectures in general? |
| 06:33:29 | merlin262 | in general |
| 06:33:50 | merlin262 | the ".cf" file juunk was filled with platform specificism |
| 06:33:54 | scanline | ok... so that's also necessary for PDAs and such |
| 06:34:15 | merlin262 | yeah, also makes editing the gfx a LOT easier |
| 06:34:20 | merlin262 | gimp ./gfx.bmp |
| 06:34:20 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 06:38:50 | Xentac | is away: shleepink |
| 07:24:36 | d_b{away} | anyone up? |
| 07:28:21 | darth_balls | alright, well I"m going to be |
| 07:28:23 | darth_balls | *bed |
| 09:35:05 | captain_p-telnet | scanline, you there? |
| 09:37:43 | scanline | yeah |
| 09:38:01 | captain_p-telnet | could you export /navi/jupiter/muzak on rsync for me? |
| 09:38:07 | scanline | k |
| 09:38:52 | scanline | done |
| 09:39:40 | captain_p-telnet | thanks :) |
| 09:39:57 | scanline | no problem |
| 09:40:21 | scanline | is doing more big changes |
| 09:40:41 | captain_p-telnet | i'm all up and running again, save for the fact that i have no software installed |
| 09:40:42 | scanline | wow... |
| 09:40:46 | scanline | micah@yoshi:~/sf/pgui/pgserver$ cvs diff 2> /dev/null | wc -l |
| 09:40:46 | scanline | 1633 |
| 09:40:49 | scanline | captain_p-telnet: cool |
| 09:41:14 | captain_p-telnet | i'd forgotten the joys of raw irc |
| 09:41:23 | scanline | haha |
| 09:41:32 | hikke | ;P |
| 09:41:40 | scanline | doesn't know the IRC protocol by heart.. but knows it's pretty simple |
| 09:41:57 | hikke | It's simple, but annoying... |
| 09:41:59 | captain_p-telnet | like not being able to do any ACTIONs because i can't type out a \001 |
| 09:42:15 | scanline | isn't that just CTRL-A? |
| 09:42:26 | hikke | oo |
| 09:42:50 | captain_p-telnet | nope, ctrl-a is \007 |
| 09:43:05 | captain_p-telnet | i think...lemme see |
| 09:43:09 | scanline | ah.. I'm pretty dang sure ^A is \001 |
| 09:43:18 | captain_p-telnet | ACTIONtest |
| 09:43:28 | captain_p-telnet | see an action? |
| 09:43:37 | scanline | on all the terminal standards I've seen control characters are just the character - 'A' |
| 09:43:39 | scanline | nope |
| 09:43:50 | scanline | err, - 'A' + 1 |
| 09:43:58 | scanline | maybe telnet handles them differently? |
| 09:44:08 | captain_p-telnet | that's probably it |
| 09:44:25 | scanline | yeah.. I just used od to test it, ^A is 001 |
| 09:45:10 | scanline | yay.. making progress. this compiles now |
| 09:45:13 | scanline | *** ERROR (INTERNAL) : Can't find font engine |
| 09:45:22 | scanline | should write the font engine now |
| 09:45:49 | captain_p-telnet | i'm optimizing my system to death :) |
| 09:49:28 | scanline | gentoo, LFS, or something? |
| 09:53:39 | captain_p-telnet | gentoo this time |
| 09:55:00 | captain_p-telnet | bedtime |
| 12:31:32 | Sophie | nickserv is new for openprojects, isn't it? |
| 12:31:48 | Sophie | is playing around with KeyserSoze's Gentoo machine |
| 12:31:56 | scanline | no, it's been here at least as long as I have |
| 12:32:04 | Sophie | oh. |
| 12:46:48 | Sophie | blah |
| 12:47:18 | Sophie | can't get XMMS to play mp3s off a CD |
| 12:47:34 | scanline | :( |
| 13:00:16 | file | hi all |
| 13:02:10 | Sophie | hullo file |
| 13:04:52 | Sophie | notes that KeyserSoze left his credit card next to his keyboard |
| 13:05:06 | Sophie | I think that means he wants me to have it. |
| 13:05:14 | file | credit card? O.O |
| 13:05:43 | Sophie | >:F |
| 13:07:02 | file | grabs it and runs |
| 13:10:12 | file | mmm |
| 13:15:44 | Sophie | tries adding things to Keyser's menu config |
| 13:16:19 | Sophie | could I have it simply execute a web address, or do I need to assoociate a browser with it? |
| 13:16:37 | Sophie | associate even. |
| 13:17:04 | Sophie | thinks her question is dopy |
| 13:18:32 | Sophie | well, clearly executing a web address doesn't work. |
| 13:20:35 | Sophie | yay, it works. |
| 13:22:29 | Sophie | now I need to clear this buffer. |
| 13:22:40 | Sophie | :) |
| 14:04:01 | file | is hungry |
| 14:11:39 | file | hello prpplague |
| 14:11:42 | file | goes to his desk to eat |
| 14:11:59 | Xentac | is back (gone 07:33:09) |
| 14:14:24 | file | wb |
| 14:21:11 | Xentac | thanks... |
| 14:24:48 | file | how goes it? |
| 14:24:59 | file | was reading somebody's diary |
| 14:25:17 | Xentac | has to get ready to beat up little kids... |
| 14:25:27 | file | again? |
| 14:25:50 | Xentac | every saturday |
| 14:26:06 | file | bah |
| 14:26:08 | file | go easy |
| 14:26:08 | scanline | Oh great macaroni waffles, it's saturday isn't it... |
| 14:26:22 | file | scanline: yup - another Saturday has rolled around again |
| 14:26:31 | scanline | takes another swig of Red Dew |
| 14:27:11 | scanline | has made 1719 lines of changes to pgserver tonight |
| 14:27:26 | file | that's grrrrrrrrrrrr8t |
| 14:28:57 | file | says goodbye to one of his coworkers |
| 14:29:03 | file | he's going back to his home country for 2 weeks |
| 14:29:18 | scanline | which country? |
| 14:30:47 | file | Ukraine |
| 14:31:06 | scanline | just curious |
| 14:31:18 | scanline | doesn't know anyone from the Ukraine probably |
| 14:31:39 | file | he won't be online while he's there... |
| 14:32:19 | scanline | doh.. that's bad |
| 15:02:10 | KeyserSoze | I like Sophie. She's a good girl. |
| 15:02:24 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: do I want to know why...? |
| 15:02:36 | KeyserSoze | sophie wrote that. She's a BAD girl. |
| 15:02:48 | Xentac | oh, ok |
| 15:02:51 | KeyserSoze | we're going to a LAN party today. |
| 15:03:03 | KeyserSoze | already dropped off (and set up) our computers yesterday. |
| 15:03:16 | carpman | morning all |
| 15:03:19 | carpman | PicoBot: seen gonkulator{work} |
| 15:03:20 | PicoBot | gonkulator{work} was last seen on #picogui 1 days, 15 hours, 39 minutes and 50 seconds ago, saying: later carpman [Thu Oct 10 17:23:29 2002] |
| 15:03:25 | scanline | hi carpman |
| 15:03:32 | carpman | hey scanline |
| 15:03:41 | carpman | drops a nuke on autoconf |
| 15:03:54 | scanline | just dropped a nuke on pgserver's font code |
| 15:04:09 | scanline | carpman: I decided to modularize pgserver's font code.. just committed a 2000 line diff :) |
| 15:04:24 | carpman | *** Warning: Linking the shared library libres_c.la against the non-libtool |
| 15:04:24 | carpman | *** objects picogui_support.o is not portable! |
| 15:04:41 | scanline | hmm? |
| 15:04:55 | carpman | yeah |
| 15:06:18 | carpman | oh, nevermind |
| 15:06:20 | carpman | fixed that |
| 15:09:00 | Xentac | mwahahahas. There's an article in this month's LJ that talks about PAM and security... and it shows examples of password files... but the passwords that are hashed aren't valid! |
| 15:09:54 | Xentac | how do I know, you ask? |
| 15:09:58 | Xentac | I tried to crack them... |
| 15:12:25 | carpman | thinks Xentac needs something better to do. |
| 15:12:38 | Xentac | is about to go and beat up little kids... |
| 15:12:55 | Xentac | carpman: come on... you copy out the password hash into a fake password file and then run john on it... |
| 15:14:02 | scanline | carpman: shouldn't be too hard to have freetype support now |
| 15:19:32 | file | arg |
| 15:36:39 | carpman | hey gonkulator |
| 15:38:51 | file | is going to Tux889's |
| 15:38:55 | file | so I have to pack up aramius |
| 15:39:25 | Xentac | finds the judo he's doing so totally different from the karate he already does... |
| 15:42:41 | Xentac | is away: beating up little kids. |
| 15:47:19 | file[home] | pokes carpman |
| 15:52:01 | gonkulator | hi carpman |
| 15:52:11 | gonkulator | hi file[home] |
| 15:52:18 | carpman | gonkulator: whats up? |
| 15:52:26 | gonkulator | carpman: oh, this and that |
| 15:52:44 | gonkulator | just putting the finishing touches on the stuff for today's contest |
| 15:52:51 | gonkulator | making sure that life is good |
| 15:52:59 | gonkulator | and just feeling generally bored |
| 15:53:14 | gonkulator | thinks he is going to learn OS X programming |
| 15:58:32 | file[Tux889] | hey all |
| 15:58:35 | file[Tux889] | I'm over at Tux889's house |
| 16:03:51 | carpman | retargets the nuke... |
| 16:05:42 | file[Tux889] | starts up aramius beside him |
| 16:09:04 | file[Tux889] | haha |
| 16:21:16 | merlin262 | w00t, hey carpman, the latest CVS ***SHOULD*** work on your ibook now |
| 16:22:24 | carpman | merlin262: k, will test it in a little bit |
| 16:22:24 | gonkulator | merlin262: are you psyched???? |
| 16:22:29 | merlin262 | YES! |
| 16:22:30 | merlin262 | =D |
| 16:22:37 | carpman | ooo... will merlin262 be participating in the battle? |
| 16:22:44 | merlin262 | is working on adding something *EVIL* to sasteroids too. |
| 16:22:47 | merlin262 | I mean *EVIL* |
| 16:22:58 | gonkulator | BSD support? |
| 16:23:01 | carpman | lol |
| 16:23:10 | merlin262 | gonkulator: already done that. :D |
| 16:23:36 | gonkulator | oh, than I am out of ideas |
| 16:23:51 | gonkulator | munches shreaded wheat |
| 16:24:45 | gonkulator | merlin262: what is it? |
| 16:25:30 | merlin262 | a new enemy |
| 16:25:44 | gonkulator | Osama Bin Laden? |
| 16:25:54 | merlin262 | w00t: EASTER EGG! |
| 16:26:00 | merlin262 | lol |
| 16:26:04 | carpman | *Buh* *DUH* *pshhhhh* |
| 16:26:27 | gonkulator | accidently sprays milk all over his iBook |
| 16:26:30 | carpman | merlin262: did you put the konami code in? |
| 16:26:42 | merlin262 | does that. |
| 16:27:31 | merlin262 | thinks he'll have the old sasteroids cheat code blow up your ship. |
| 16:27:32 | file[Tux889] | gonkulator: can I call you? |
| 16:27:33 | merlin262 | :evil: |
| 16:27:52 | file[Tux889] | please? |
| 16:28:40 | gonkulator | file[home]: sure |
| 16:28:45 | file[Tux889] | gonkulator: yah!!! |
| 16:31:42 | gonkulator | enjoys Gentoo |
| 16:31:53 | gonkulator | gentoo is the coolest thing since sliced beef |
| 16:32:54 | carpman | looks to the left |
| 16:32:59 | carpman | looks to the right |
| 16:33:05 | carpman | hmm... nobody home except me |
| 16:33:14 | carpman | the stereo, it calls to me... |
| 16:33:50 | file[Tux889] | lets gonkulator talk to Tux889 |
| 16:34:14 | file[Tux889] | carpman: want to talk to Tux889 too? |
| 16:34:33 | carpman | sure |
| 16:36:26 | merlin262 | thinks the way he's done this is very clever.... =D |
| 16:38:56 | gonkulator | gets one and calls carpman |
| 16:39:28 | file[Tux889] | NOOOOOOOOO |
| 16:39:29 | file[Tux889] | me first |
| 16:39:38 | gonkulator | ok, ok |
| 16:39:40 | gonkulator | just a sec |
| 16:39:47 | gonkulator | needs to take the survey first |
| 16:40:55 | gonkulator | file[Tux889]: are you done yet? |
| 16:41:04 | carpman | he hasnt called me |
| 16:41:38 | gonkulator | file[Tux889]: where do you do the survey? |
| 16:43:02 | file[Tux889] | gonkulator: Shape the future |
| 16:43:29 | gonkulator | file[Tux889] thanks |
| 16:43:40 | gonkulator | it is slow... |
| 16:45:20 | gonkulator | ok... it crashes my web browser |
| 16:45:27 | gonkulator | carpman: are you talking to file now? |
| 16:45:31 | carpman | yes |
| 16:45:33 | gonkulator | ok |
| 16:47:06 | file[Tux889] | that was fun |
| 16:47:12 | carpman | hehe |
| 16:47:19 | carpman | NEXT :) |
| 16:47:24 | file[Tux889] | OK who's next!!! |
| 16:49:23 | file[Tux889] | somebody... anybody... |
| 16:53:29 | gonkulator | file[Tux889]: you can call me again |
| 16:53:32 | file[Tux889] | gonkulator: bah |
| 16:54:48 | file[Tux889] | I need some trance!!! |
| 16:54:56 | file[Tux889] | gonkulator: do you have that DJ Doboy? |
| 16:55:35 | file[laptop] | please say you do |
| 16:57:28 | file[laptop] | gonkulator!!!!!!! |
| 16:58:01 | gonkulator | is away: phone |
| 16:59:14 | gonkulator | is back |
| 16:59:23 | gonkulator | file[home]: why do you need trance? |
| 17:00:16 | carpman | file[laptop]: here |
| 17:00:28 | carpman | this song is GOOD |
| 17:00:48 | kergoth | mm trace |
| 17:00:48 | gonkulator | carpman: what are you sending hiim? |
| 17:00:55 | file[laptop] | no not that |
| 17:00:55 | carpman | "Never gonna come back down" |
| 17:00:58 | file[laptop] | I want DJ Doboy!!!!!!!! |
| 17:01:06 | carpman | file[laptop]: ACCEPT THE FILE! |
| 17:01:18 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: to introduce Tux889 to it |
| 17:01:49 | gonkulator | oh |
| 17:01:53 | gonkulator | you don't want to do that |
| 17:01:59 | carpman | file[laptop]: take the file |
| 17:02:08 | file[laptop] | send me it!!!! |
| 17:02:12 | file[laptop] | carpman: I refused it |
| 17:02:31 | gonkulator | accept the file damnit |
| 17:02:32 | file[laptop] | actually I can get it from navi... if I had the port number and public directory name |
| 17:02:54 | carpman | this is like feeding a baby |
| 17:03:44 | file[laptop] | !!! |
| 17:04:18 | carpman | file[laptop]: take the file and listen to it! |
| 17:06:06 | gonkulator | well, I am going to take a walk |
| 17:06:07 | gonkulator | bbl |
| 17:07:29 | file[laptop] | erms |
| 17:20:16 | carpman | file[laptop]: well, whadya think? |
| 17:22:39 | gonkulator | and back |
| 17:23:38 | file[laptop] | carpman: was downstairs listening to DJ Doboy |
| 17:24:03 | file[laptop] | listening now |
| 17:28:21 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 17:28:21 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #openzaurus 1 hours, 6 minutes and 13 seconds ago, saying: ljp_work: boo [Sat Oct 12 10:22:08 2002] |
| 17:29:11 | scanline | I'm here |
| 17:29:22 | file[Tux889] | scanline: shall I call you? |
| 17:29:26 | scanline | no |
| 17:30:04 | file[Tux889] | ok - who then? |
| 17:30:16 | scanline | nobody |
| 17:30:18 | gonkulator | scanline: can probe and I come up next weekend? |
| 17:30:23 | scanline | yes |
| 17:30:28 | file[Tux889] | bahs like a sheep |
| 17:30:39 | gonkulator | shears file |
| 17:31:04 | scanline | puts file in a UPS envelope addressed to the nearest sweater factory |
| 17:31:12 | scanline | makes sure there are no air holes |
| 17:31:38 | file[Tux889] | suffocates |
| 17:31:45 | gonkulator | pokes airholes and covers them with glass so file can see but can't breath |
| 17:32:18 | file[Tux889] | goes to get another calling card to call gonkulator again |
| 17:32:44 | gonkulator | actually, I am going to go grab a shower |
| 17:32:49 | file[Tux889] | ok |
| 17:33:22 | gonkulator | is away: shower time |
| 17:33:28 | carpman | file[Tux889]: what do you think of the song? |
| 17:33:35 | gonkulator | later everyone |
| 17:33:40 | carpman | bye gonkulator |
| 17:33:43 | gonkulator | later carpman |
| 17:33:44 | gonkulator | take care |
| 17:33:52 | gonkulator | scanline: happy busyness; ) |
| 17:34:11 | scanline | is doing interesting stuff |
| 17:34:38 | merlin262 | carpman: the easter egg has been added.... |
| 17:34:39 | merlin262 | =D |
| 17:34:48 | carpman | scanline: res_c's build system works right now, and resbuild is ready to be used |
| 17:34:53 | carpman | merlin262: sw33t |
| 17:35:01 | scanline | carpman: spiffy |
| 17:38:53 | carpman | merlin262: [Fatal] Could not load bitmap: Couldn't open /usr/share/sasteroids//graphics/eship1.bmp |
| 17:40:07 | carpman | w00t for the konami code!!! |
| 17:42:57 | file[laptop] | lalala |
| 17:46:28 | merlin262 | you found it eh? |
| 17:46:34 | merlin262 | you like what it does? |
| 17:47:06 | carpman | indeed :) |
| 17:50:29 | file[laptop] | hey darth_balls |
| 17:51:30 | darth_balls | hey file[laptop] |
| 17:51:35 | darth_balls | what's up? |
| 17:51:56 | file[laptop] | persuades a friend to come over |
| 17:52:06 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 17:52:27 | file[laptop] | not working |
| 17:52:40 | merlin262 | carpman: aren't we supposed to be getting an email? |
| 17:52:40 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 17:52:53 | carpman | merlin262: not time yet |
| 17:53:11 | scanline | currently has the programming contest of making picogui work with freetype |
| 17:53:21 | merlin262 | lol scanline |
| 17:53:33 | merlin262 | it shouldn't be that hard w/ the SDL library |
| 17:53:39 | scanline | I'm not using SDL |
| 17:53:46 | scanline | no point |
| 17:54:15 | scanline | I get a lot more control over the font alignment and hinting by using Freetype directly, and I can cache glyphs in the video driver's native format if necessary |
| 17:55:12 | carpman | so are we going to be able to load fonts through themes? |
| 17:55:37 | darth_balls | is going to go shower now |
| 17:56:05 | scanline | carpman: that shouldn't be hard to add |
| 17:56:14 | carpman | w00t |
| 17:56:22 | file[laptop] | bah |
| 17:56:34 | scanline | assuming this works, you'll be able to embed TrueType, Type1, and a couple other formats |
| 17:56:36 | file[laptop] | Tux889's dog keeps licking my laptop's NIC |
| 17:57:15 | carpman | awesome |
| 17:57:15 | scanline | The classic BDF engine will still require fonts to be compiled into pgserver, but the entire BDF engine is optional now |
| 17:57:15 | file[laptop] | I want my wireless :( |
| 17:57:15 | scanline | I'm anxious to see how fast freetype runs on the zaurus |
| 17:57:29 | scanline | mainly that will just determine how good I'll have to cache things |
| 17:57:35 | merlin262 | scanline: how much processing power do PDA's have exactly? |
| 17:57:35 | kergoth | qtopia/opie has freetype support, but idont think anyone tested it |
| 17:59:30 | scanline | kergoth: hmm... |
| 17:59:34 | scanline | wonder why not |
| 17:59:59 | scanline | IMHO the one antialiased font qtopia has is still ugly, its hinting is wrong so the whole character comes out blurry |
| 18:00:17 | kergoth | smoothscale? yeah |
| 18:00:30 | scanline | and that's all prerendered anyway, so it's not scalable |
| 18:00:30 | kergoth | opie needs more fonts |
| 18:00:40 | scanline | I haven't looked at opie's font rendering much |
| 18:00:57 | kergoth | yep |
| 18:00:58 | scanline | After this round of changes, picogui should be able to load BDF fonts natively, and anything Freetype can handle |
| 18:01:06 | kergoth | nice |
| 18:01:14 | scanline | yet to be seen how fast it will be :) |
| 18:01:35 | scanline | freetype sucks up about 3MB of memory to load all the openoffics, ghostscript, and microsoft fonts I have installed on this machine |
| 18:01:48 | scanline | s/openoffics/openoffice/ |
| 18:01:57 | scanline | I'm assuming we'll have fewer fonts on the Z though |
| 18:02:25 | scanline | Can't distribute the MS fonts with OZ, but between openoffice and ghostscript there are a couple decent fonts |
| 18:02:31 | kergoth | yeah |
| 18:25:36 | merlin262 | it's hard to find good free fonts. :/ |
| 18:26:00 | gonkulator | would make fonts if he knew how |
| 18:26:17 | gonkulator | yay for the drug weather report |
| 18:26:55 | gonkulator | hmm.. |
| 18:26:57 | file[laptop] | frowns |
| 18:27:01 | gonkulator | wonders where Xentac is |
| 18:27:05 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen Xentac |
| 18:27:05 | PicoBot | Xentac was last seen on #picogui 2 hours, 44 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: is away: beating up little kids. [Sat Oct 12 09:42:40 2002] |
| 18:27:09 | file[laptop] | I can't find a good calling card that I can buy on Paypal |
| 18:29:14 | gonkulator | three dead trolls in a baggie is so funny... |
| 18:30:22 | gonkulator | and it goes to the next song... |
| 18:32:53 | gonkulator | ROFLMAO |
| 18:38:11 | file[laptop] | threatens to call gonkulator again and play very bad recorder music |
| 18:39:06 | file[laptop] | nah - flute |
| 18:40:15 | gonkulator | turns his phone off |
| 18:40:23 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: pretty please? |
| 18:40:44 | gonkulator | if you really want to call me, go for it |
| 18:40:52 | gonkulator | but I don't have much of anything to say |
| 18:41:02 | file[laptop] | you'd just have to listen' |
| 18:41:44 | gonkulator | is compiling X right now |
| 18:41:58 | gonkulator | I need to make a todo list in iCal |
| 18:46:01 | gonkulator | ok... |
| 18:46:04 | file[Tux889] | pokes gonkulator |
| 18:46:14 | gonkulator | hi |
| 18:47:00 | gonkulator | hangs up on file |
| 18:47:11 | file[Tux889] | smiles |
| 18:47:13 | file[Tux889] | I can call again :p |
| 18:48:26 | gonkulator | can let the phone ring |
| 18:52:07 | merlin262 | hrm, scanline: what would be a good upper limit for the size of a PDA game? |
| 18:52:17 | merlin262 | gfx right now are starting to get big. :/ |
| 18:52:21 | scanline | merlin262: how big is big? |
| 18:52:28 | scanline | merlin262: you might think about compressing your bitmaps |
| 18:52:51 | merlin262 | scanline: yeah, that would be a good idea. |
| 18:53:34 | scanline | png is your friend |
| 18:55:56 | gonkulator | grabs the OS X updates |
| 18:57:47 | darth_balls | PicoBot: BAH |
| 18:57:48 | PicoBot | darth_balls: i'm not following you... |
| 18:57:55 | darth_balls | PicoBot: BAH! |
| 18:57:55 | PicoBot | Crotch! |
| 18:58:10 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 18:58:27 | gonkulator | can't wait for a Power4 desktop to come out |
| 18:58:57 | gonkulator | is only pulling 50K/s from ibiblio.org |
| 19:00:19 | carpman | gonkulator: how long til the contest? |
| 19:01:05 | merlin262 | yeah, how long |
| 19:01:11 | gonkulator | 2 hours |
| 19:01:19 | carpman | bets file's arm that he comes in last :) |
| 19:01:29 | darth_balls | lol |
| 19:01:30 | scanline | has had way too much mountain dew in the last two days |
| 19:01:32 | gonkulator | carpman: I doubt you will come in last |
| 19:02:11 | gonkulator | has already come in last :) |
| 19:03:23 | darth_balls | would come in last if he could participate |
| 19:03:38 | gonkulator | darth_balls: what are your C skills? |
| 19:04:04 | carpman | darth_balls: could you participate if I detonated file> |
| 19:04:08 | darth_balls | gonkulator: absolutely none |
| 19:04:09 | carpman | s/>/? |
| 19:04:22 | gonkulator | carpman: detonate file and find out :) |
| 19:04:25 | carpman | ok |
| 19:04:26 | darth_balls | I know *of* printf() |
| 19:04:26 | gonkulator | >:) |
| 19:04:30 | carpman | detonates file. |
| 19:04:31 | darth_balls | that's it ^_^ |
| 19:04:47 | darth_balls | poor file |
| 19:04:49 | carpman | wait, is file playing? |
| 19:04:49 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 19:05:00 | gonkulator | carpman: of course not |
| 19:05:08 | carpman | lol |
| 19:06:33 | gonkulator | doh... |
| 19:06:46 | darth_balls | welcome back |
| 19:07:04 | gonkulator | when doing software updates, things just kinda crash |
| 19:07:13 | gonkulator | iTunes just went dead |
| 19:07:18 | darth_balls | lol |
| 19:07:40 | carpman | RDF low, please refuel |
| 19:07:53 | gonkulator | carpman: something like that |
| 19:08:12 | gonkulator | loves his wireless network so much |
| 19:08:19 | gonkulator | airport is da BOMB |
| 19:08:25 | gonkulator | carpman: do you have wireless? |
| 19:08:44 | darth_balls | gonkulator: are you at home? |
| 19:08:45 | carpman | gonkulator: yes, but no base station, just on sasami and puaruu |
| 19:08:53 | gonkulator | darth_balls: yeah |
| 19:09:04 | darth_balls | gonkulator: the iBook? |
| 19:09:07 | gonkulator | the base station that Heather's dad gave me didn't work until I spent a few hours playing with it |
| 19:09:13 | gonkulator | darth_balls: yep |
| 19:09:28 | darth_balls | does it work on your towers too? |
| 19:09:52 | gonkulator | it _could_ but I don't have wireless cards for the towers |
| 19:10:22 | darth_balls | wants to make fission wireless ^_^ |
| 19:10:43 | gonkulator | PCI 802.11 cards aren't that expensive |
| 19:11:00 | darth_balls | I should also get an airport card for The Guide |
| 19:11:12 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 19:11:14 | darth_balls | maybe a base station for x-mas... hmmm |
| 19:11:16 | gonkulator | wireless iBooks are great |
| 19:11:20 | darth_balls | needs to call home today ^_^ |
| 19:11:23 | gonkulator | Dan is selling his stuff |
| 19:11:31 | darth_balls | really? why? |
| 19:11:35 | gonkulator | you could buy his airport card and base station |
| 19:11:44 | darth_balls | that would be awesome |
| 19:11:47 | gonkulator | I think he needs the money and he has finally realized that he doesn't use them |
| 19:11:47 | darth_balls | wonder how much he wants |
| 19:11:52 | darth_balls | lol |
| 19:12:00 | darth_balls | but I think his base station is broken, isn't it? |
| 19:12:07 | darth_balls | it's one of the old ones |
| 19:12:11 | gonkulator | I don't think so... but it could be |
| 19:12:14 | gonkulator | have to ask hiim |
| 19:12:32 | carpman | lol |
| 19:12:35 | carpman | http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-10-11 |
| 19:12:57 | merlin262 | 1.5 hours eh gonkulator? |
| 19:13:05 | merlin262 | goes to get some grub, hopefulyl I get back in time. :/ |
| 19:13:20 | darth_balls | has to go to capoeira now |
| 19:13:20 | gonkulator | merlin262: a bit more than that, but yeah |
| 19:13:23 | darth_balls | c ya later guys |
| 19:13:26 | darth_balls | have fun w/ the contest |
| 19:17:27 | gonkulator | holy shit.. |
| 19:17:29 | gonkulator | http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_net_homefree.html |
| 19:18:11 | gonkulator | two wireless network cards |
| 19:18:16 | gonkulator | for 20 USD |
| 19:18:22 | carpman | not 802.11 |
| 19:18:32 | gonkulator | that makes sense then... |
| 19:18:48 | carpman | I think thats what file has |
| 19:19:06 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 19:19:13 | gonkulator | that must be why file has such problems with stuff |
| 19:26:58 | gonkulator | oh well |
| 19:27:04 | gonkulator | now I have WEP on my base station |
| 19:27:06 | gonkulator | so life is good |
| 19:27:12 | gonkulator | brb, gotta restart the base station |
| 19:30:39 | gonkulator | and he is back |
| 19:30:48 | gonkulator | 90 minutes until contest time :) |
| 19:34:49 | scanline | is really starting to hate this Harlekin guy... |
| 19:35:05 | carpman | who? |
| 19:35:34 | scanline | carpman: Opie developer, seems to like being annoying... |
| 19:36:17 | gonkulator | hmmm.... |
| 19:38:37 | Tux889 | lol |
| 19:38:46 | Tux889 | somebody moved Tux889's speakers and he's going nuts |
| 19:39:03 | merlin262 | i gotta go run some errands, so I probably won't be able to compete |
| 19:39:16 | merlin262 | hope you guys have fun, send me the problem, and i'll see what I can't do w/ it anyway. :) |
| 19:39:45 | gonkulator | merlin262: what time will you be back? |
| 19:40:04 | gonkulator | eh... oh well |
| 19:41:06 | carpman | is going to go for a walk to clear his mind before this starts |
| 19:41:07 | carpman | bbian |
| 19:41:08 | carpman | err |
| 19:41:09 | carpman | bbiab |
| 19:41:12 | carpman | is away: I'm busy |
| 19:41:32 | gonkulator | later carpman |
| 19:43:07 | gonkulator | hey!!!! |
| 19:43:11 | gonkulator | my sound card works right |
| 19:43:25 | gonkulator | this is a shittty (with extra T) sound card |
| 19:47:13 | gonkulator | but it plays the thumping techno without problems |
| 19:48:58 | file[downstairs] | ic |
| 19:49:12 | file[downstairs] | moving upstairs |
| 19:49:47 | file[laptop] | back |
| 19:54:09 | scanline | is getting depressed and annoyed, and thinks he needs sleep |
| 19:54:43 | file[laptop] | injects scanline with a sedative |
| 19:54:54 | scanline | bastard |
| 19:55:35 | gonkulator | injects file with a radioactive tracer |
| 19:55:50 | carpman | scanline: where is this going on? |
| 19:55:57 | scanline | where what huh? |
| 19:56:09 | gonkulator | carpman: prolly #openzaurus |
| 19:56:10 | scanline | in my head |
| 19:56:10 | carpman | this argument thats pissing you off? |
| 19:56:13 | scanline | oh |
| 19:56:13 | file[laptop] | is traced |
| 19:56:22 | carpman | is in OZ |
| 19:56:28 | scanline | it wasn't really an argument, just occasional comments.. but it was in #handhelds.org |
| 19:56:38 | scanline | that's not what's frustrating me |
| 19:56:44 | scanline | it's the lack of... mountain dew |
| 19:56:50 | carpman | hehe |
| 19:56:53 | scanline | maybe I'll open another 2-liter |
| 19:56:57 | scanline | or maybe I'll sleep |
| 19:56:58 | gonkulator | hehehehe |
| 19:57:02 | gonkulator | scanline: is that safe? |
| 19:57:02 | scanline | both sound like good options |
| 19:57:07 | scanline | of course it isn't |
| 19:57:15 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 19:57:21 | gonkulator | as long as you know the risks involved :) |
| 19:57:34 | gonkulator | wants scanline to be not frustrated |
| 19:57:44 | scanline | wants to get this freetype engine working before he sleeps |
| 19:58:02 | carpman | gonkulator: who is going to compete? |
| 19:58:04 | scanline | takes a piss and rummages for another 2-liter |
| 19:58:17 | gonkulator | carpman: I am not sure at this point |
| 19:58:23 | gonkulator | you, and, um... |
| 19:58:31 | gonkulator | merlin262 backed out |
| 19:58:34 | gonkulator | scanline is doubtful |
| 19:58:49 | gonkulator | I haven't a clue where Xentac or d_b{capoeira} or Dan are |
| 19:58:58 | gonkulator | postpones until next friday |
| 19:59:07 | gonkulator | seems like the logical thing to do... |
| 19:59:11 | carpman | yeah |
| 19:59:33 | gonkulator | is happy that this sound driver isn't popping like it used to |
| 20:00:39 | scanline | postponed eh? |
| 20:00:46 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 20:00:54 | gonkulator | you are going to have a "short nap" |
| 20:01:00 | gonkulator | and other people just aren't here |
| 20:01:00 | scanline | not right now |
| 20:01:10 | scanline | but yeah |
| 20:01:14 | scanline | mmmkkkay........... |
| 20:01:16 | scanline | whee |
| 20:01:19 | gonkulator | well, want to have it right now between you and carpman? |
| 20:01:30 | scanline | maybe I should sleep now, I'm not sure I can write alpha_charblit in this state of mind |
| 20:01:39 | gonkulator | guess not :) |
| 20:01:43 | gonkulator | sleep well Micah |
| 20:01:50 | scanline | is away: short nap |
| 20:01:59 | gonkulator | see you tomorrow :p |
| 20:03:50 | file[laptop] | waves to scanline |
| 20:04:20 | gonkulator | decides to go for a short walk to try to dream up contest ideas |
| 20:04:41 | file[laptop] | mmm |
| 20:04:42 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: you are going to need to participate in one of these contests one of these days |
| 20:04:50 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: yeah yeah |
| 20:05:19 | gonkulator | seriously |
| 20:05:23 | file[laptop] | I know |
| 20:05:26 | gonkulator | I'll have a cybiko competiton |
| 20:05:42 | gonkulator | or something |
| 20:05:47 | gonkulator | just got done compiling mozilla |
| 20:15:40 | file[laptop] | waves to gonkulator |
| 20:29:25 | Xentac | is back (gone 04:46:44) |
| 20:29:33 | file[laptop] | wb Xentac |
| 20:29:41 | file[laptop] | Xentac: can I call you? |
| 20:30:12 | Xentac | ummm... if you want to... why...? |
| 20:30:21 | file[laptop] | no reason |
| 20:30:25 | file[laptop] | called gonkulator and carpman |
| 20:30:32 | Xentac | I see... |
| 20:30:45 | Xentac | dusts off his phone... |
| 20:30:46 | Xentac | sure |
| 20:30:58 | file[laptop] | soon - I'm eating right now |
| 20:31:03 | Xentac | gonkulator: fridays aren't good for me, man... judo... |
| 20:33:39 | file[laptop] | nudges Xentac |
| 20:33:43 | Xentac | yeah? |
| 20:34:07 | file[laptop] | what's the number? |
| 20:34:10 | file[laptop] | privmsg it to me |
| 20:34:28 | Xentac | and remember to ask for jason... not Xentac ;o) |
| 20:35:37 | file[laptop] | oh I will |
| 20:36:52 | file[laptop] | mmm give me a bit |
| 20:36:57 | Xentac | ummm... ok... |
| 20:37:03 | Xentac | I don't have all day though you know |
| 20:37:14 | Xentac | I've got better things to do than sit here and wait for some stoned guy to call me |
| 20:37:24 | Xentac | loves being patronizing |
| 20:45:24 | file[laptop] | smiles |
| 20:45:31 | Xentac | is that it? |
| 20:45:38 | Xentac | that would be it |
| 20:45:50 | file[laptop] | yup |
| 20:46:10 | Xentac | woohoos and spins his index finger around above his head |
| 20:46:23 | file[laptop] | cheers |
| 20:46:50 | Xentac | http://weblog.burningbird.net/archives/000581.php <--- hehehe |
| 20:46:58 | Xentac | what if languages could talk... |
| 20:46:59 | file[laptop] | brb - going to have a lightsaber fight with Tux889 |
| 20:47:02 | file[laptop] | The things geeks do... lol |
| 20:47:08 | Xentac | cut off his hand! |
| 20:47:37 | file[laptop] | I'll try my best! |
| 20:47:55 | file[laptop] | jabs Xentac with his lightsaber |
| 20:48:11 | Xentac | deflects and cuts of file[laptop]'s head. |
| 20:48:14 | Xentac | mwahahahaha |
| 21:32:31 | file[laptop] | he beat me |
| 21:40:48 | file[laptop] | brb moving |
| 21:56:38 | anonyman | hey all |
| 22:08:07 | carpman | YES! I found it! |
| 22:08:20 | carpman | My favorite Crystal Method song. |
| 22:08:29 | carpman | yesyesyesyesyes |
| 22:08:43 | Xentac | carpman: woah man... calm down.. |
| 22:08:53 | carpman | has been hunting this song. :) |
| 22:09:04 | kergoth | what sogn? |
| 22:09:21 | carpman | Get busy child |
| 22:09:31 | carpman | didnt know the name til a few minutes ago |
| 22:09:33 | Xentac | hunting it...? |
| 22:09:39 | Xentac | I see... |
| 22:15:03 | carpman | "What about me, said C#. I look like Prince! |
| 22:15:03 | carpman | Bite me! said C." |
| 22:17:37 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 22:17:46 | file[downstairs] | hums |
| 22:19:05 | Xentac | hehehe... there's a program on freshmeat 'ipkungfu' |
| 22:19:54 | carpman | haha |
| 22:35:48 | merlin262 | back - home -good |
| 22:36:12 | merlin262 | hey, no email! |
| 22:36:29 | merlin262 | slaps da shiat outof gonkulator |
| 22:36:37 | file[downstairs] | I'm spending the night at Tux889's |
| 22:37:38 | merlin262 | anyone here? |
| 22:37:42 | merlin262 | pokes carpman, gonkulator |
| 22:37:47 | Xentac[laptop] | is here. |
| 22:37:54 | Xentac[laptop] | but merlin262 doesn't actually care about me... |
| 22:38:04 | merlin262 | :( |
| 22:38:52 | Xentac[laptop] | ponders how he's going to set this up... |
| 22:39:14 | Xentac[laptop] | has to think more about this rant... which isn't a good thing right now... cause he feels like writing... |
| 22:39:18 | merlin262 | I guess the "contenst" was cancelled |
| 22:39:18 | merlin262 | =( |
| 22:39:27 | Xentac[laptop] | yeah... from what I understand it'll be done later |
| 22:39:28 | merlin262 | Xentac: rant? |
| 22:39:31 | Xentac[laptop] | wasn't here on time |
| 22:39:48 | Xentac[laptop] | always has things to say... just he doesn't always get the words right |
| 22:40:02 | Xentac[laptop] | I want some length, but a lot of the time I can't create enough content |
| 22:40:14 | Xentac[laptop] | likes to have an opinion and make people think |
| 22:40:22 | Xentac[laptop] | doesn't have an audience yet either though... |
| 22:40:23 | Xentac[laptop] | ;o) |
| 22:40:46 | file[downstairs] | lol |
| 22:42:27 | Xentac[laptop] | wanted to write a rant about people being afraid for "the children" |
| 22:42:48 | merlin262 | I'd like to ask you guys, what does Dual CRTC/Display mean? |
| 22:43:00 | Xentac[laptop] | wow... geek-o-rific... two laptops... sitting beside each other... |
| 22:43:02 | merlin262 | To most people, this would indicate *TWO* VGA outts |
| 22:43:04 | Xentac[laptop] | merlin262: is it in a laptop? |
| 22:43:17 | merlin262 | no, video card |
| 22:43:29 | merlin262 | See, I always thought that Dual CRT would mean *TWO* Vga outs. |
| 22:43:30 | Xentac[laptop] | wow... this keyboard feels really foreign now... |
| 22:43:31 | merlin262 | 2x - not 1x |
| 22:43:43 | merlin262 | shoots Fry's |
| 22:43:43 | Xentac[laptop] | what's CRTC? |
| 22:43:50 | merlin262 | CRT Controller |
| 22:44:19 | merlin262 | I bought a "Dual Display" vga card at Fry's |
| 22:44:23 | Xentac[laptop] | nods. |
| 22:44:23 | merlin262 | to replace my aging dual G400 |
| 22:44:34 | merlin262 | and it had _ONE_ VGA out. |
| 22:44:35 | Xentac[laptop] | and it's only single monitor? |
| 22:44:36 | merlin262 | that's ONE |
| 22:44:40 | Xentac[laptop] | what else does it have? |
| 22:44:45 | merlin262 | just one vga out |
| 22:44:53 | merlin262 | that was it |
| 22:45:03 | Xentac[laptop] | that's not right... |
| 22:47:33 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 22:47:36 | merlin262 | i took it back |
| 22:47:44 | Xentac[laptop] | and did you complain? |
| 22:47:51 | merlin262 | got my money back |
| 22:50:35 | Xentac[laptop] | will brb... he's gotta borrow his wlan card |
| 22:52:50 | fragglet | woo yay |
| 23:02:47 | carpman | merlin262: the key to this problem is simple, you said it yourself. "Fry's" |
| 23:03:37 | merlin262 | lol carpman |
| 23:03:41 | merlin262 | yeah, welll..... |
| 23:03:46 | file[downstairs] | Tux889 is doing some music editing, and it's not going well |
| 23:09:45 | gonkulator | just woke up... |
| 23:10:01 | file[downstairs] | it lost all his work... |
| 23:28:14 | gonkulator | hmm.... |
| 23:28:22 | gonkulator | how do I change something's IRQ? |
| 23:28:32 | gonkulator | what man page do I read? |
| 23:28:52 | file[downstairs] | mmm caffenie mint |
| 23:31:34 | merlin262 | gonkulator: you shouldn't need to on any modern computer, iirc |
| 23:32:50 | gonkulator | merlin262: it has my sound card and net card sharing IRQ 11 when 10 isn't in use... |
| 23:34:01 | file[downstairs] | YUCK |
| 23:34:33 | file[downstairs] | ugly |
| 23:38:53 | file[downstairs] | hello paq |
| 23:49:53 | paq | hi file |
| 23:51:02 | paq | think i'm gonna go back to zzz ;) ttyl.. |
| 23:56:52 | file[downstairs] | k |