| 00:00:07 | DevGirl | and I was lucky. It could be waaaaaaaaaaay worse ^^ |
| 00:02:45 | merlin262 | i hate homework. :( |
| 00:03:05 | DevGirl | starts to listen Tokusatsu music |
| 00:03:11 | DevGirl | merlin262: who don't? |
| 00:03:29 | scanline | doesn't think he's getting much out of school |
| 00:03:52 | scanline | I always learn more on my own than for classes... |
| 00:03:52 | DevGirl | don't believe in university anymore |
| 00:04:31 | gonkulator | scanline: I don't think your getting much out of school either |
| 00:04:50 | scanline | gonkulator: how would you know? :) |
| 00:04:51 | gonkulator | you get bandwidth, food and a place to sleep! |
| 00:05:01 | DevGirl | hey! |
| 00:05:09 | DevGirl | I want to study there! ^^ |
| 00:05:11 | gonkulator | scanline: oh, I have my ways :P |
| 00:06:09 | DevGirl | dances! |
| 00:06:36 | gonkulator | compares DevGirl to file |
| 00:06:37 | DevGirl | sings: "Tayooooooou sentai Sun Vulcan!" |
| 00:07:01 | DevGirl | Eagle! Shark! Panther! |
| 00:07:08 | DevGirl | feels really happy |
| 00:08:40 | file[laptop] | does nothing |
| 00:11:33 | scanline | looks forward to finding an interesting job |
| 00:11:44 | DevGirl | come to brazil ^^ |
| 00:12:03 | DevGirl | our company is growing and soon we'll hire |
| 00:12:08 | DevGirl | ^^ |
| 00:12:12 | scanline | I'm not very good at learning languages :( |
| 00:12:17 | DevGirl | not so soon, but soon ^^ |
| 00:12:24 | DevGirl | bah, no problem |
| 00:12:32 | DevGirl | :) |
| 00:13:02 | DevGirl | almost all of us understand english |
| 00:13:15 | DevGirl | and at least, three speaks |
| 00:13:25 | DevGirl | hhehehehe |
| 00:13:37 | scanline | :) |
| 00:13:53 | gonkulator | is now talking nearly fluent spanish with his co-worker |
| 00:14:17 | DevGirl | i'm farfetching the company growing, but we're growing and people here are thinkin of hiring |
| 00:15:34 | Xentac | is back (gone 06:21:00) |
| 00:15:53 | scanline | feels like a bum |
| 00:16:07 | Xentac | scanline: why? |
| 00:16:16 | scanline | Occasionally doing schoolwork... hiding in my fortress writing code |
| 00:16:29 | Xentac | didn't read his online comics this morning! |
| 00:16:45 | Xentac | so why does that make you a bum? |
| 00:17:04 | scanline | hmm.. dunno |
| 00:17:13 | scanline | I just feel like there's something wrong with me |
| 00:17:27 | Xentac | hehehe... you should get out more then |
| 00:17:29 | DevGirl | nothing wrong, if you're a bum |
| 00:17:37 | scanline | but getting out is boring |
| 00:17:41 | Xentac | the problem is that if you do that, picogui will not be developed |
| 00:17:46 | Xentac | not always... |
| 00:17:51 | DevGirl | lalo and Sluggy's Riff are freelance bums ^^ |
| 00:17:52 | Xentac | was out for 6 hours today riding... it was great |
| 00:17:57 | scanline | I get out with other people from the dorm, and it's usually boring |
| 00:18:12 | DevGirl | nothing wrong w them also ^^ |
| 00:18:39 | scanline | My family's boring, my friends are boring... |
| 00:19:18 | Xentac | try getting out by yourself sometimes... |
| 00:19:21 | DevGirl | hey, that's a common feeling for geeks |
| 00:19:21 | Xentac | always likes that. |
| 00:19:26 | scanline | there's nowhere to go really |
| 00:19:43 | DevGirl | scanline: I felt like this all my teenages |
| 00:20:00 | DevGirl | and stop feeling like this when met lalo... |
| 00:20:04 | scanline | :) |
| 00:20:16 | DevGirl | but it was a lot of time, until meet him |
| 00:20:39 | scanline | DevGirl: you and lalo both got really lucky :) |
| 00:20:50 | Xentac | has just gotten used to being alone (not in a negative sense, just in a factual sense) |
| 00:20:51 | DevGirl | and, if you feel this time enough, you start thinking *YOU* are the different |
| 00:21:05 | scanline | Xentac: I think that's where I'm at |
| 00:21:14 | scanline | hi carpman |
| 00:21:19 | Xentac | hey carpman |
| 00:21:41 | DevGirl | scanline: yeah, I think. but just a geek friend physically present does the trick ^^ |
| 00:21:45 | carpman | hey scanline and Xentac |
| 00:22:15 | carpman | PicoBot: seen gonkulator |
| 00:22:15 | PicoBot | gonkulator was last seen on #picogui 8 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying: is now talking nearly fluent spanish with his co-worker [Mon Oct 14 18:13:53 2002] |
| 00:22:20 | scanline | DevGirl: I'm looking forward to seeing gonkulator... he's the only geek friend I have that I know pretty well |
| 00:22:48 | Xentac | scanline: the difference I think is that I go out and do things alone... as well as with other people... whereas you sit around and do things alone ;o) |
| 00:22:56 | DevGirl | yeah that does the trick. when you have friends like you, you stop feeling like this... |
| 00:23:29 | DevGirl | is a geek girl. freak anime fan also |
| 00:23:41 | scanline | mmm... anime |
| 00:23:48 | DevGirl | when i started to go out with the anime freaks, I felt sooooo good ^^ |
| 00:24:04 | DevGirl | thinking: Hey! they're like me! |
| 00:24:36 | Xentac | doesn't like anime... count him out. |
| 00:24:50 | DevGirl | but I have more in common with lalo than with them (lalo just dont like anime and Tokusatsu, but I'm ok with it ;) ) |
| 00:27:15 | scanline | I guess even among other open source geeks I feel like something of an outcast, since I'm working on a project where the work to results ratio is extremely high |
| 00:27:38 | Xentac | scanline: are you saying that open source developers don't do much? |
| 00:27:41 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 00:27:47 | DevGirl | hehehehe |
| 00:27:59 | DevGirl | now *I'm* feeling a bum |
| 00:28:02 | DevGirl | ^^ |
| 00:28:31 | scanline | Xentac: just that if I were writing some application for Qt or Gtk, for example, it would be a lot more popular than writing your own GUI from scratch :) |
| 00:28:40 | scanline | but not nearly as much fun |
| 00:28:54 | Xentac | ah, true... but you're not in it for the popularity, are you? |
| 00:29:08 | scanline | of course not.. if I were I wouldn't have gotten this far |
| 00:29:15 | scanline | but sometimes I wish I was |
| 00:29:36 | DevGirl | If you are in it for the popularity, turn back and go work for the microsoft bums ^^ |
| 00:29:48 | scanline | hehe, true :) |
| 00:29:52 | DevGirl | :D |
| 00:30:20 | DevGirl | nothing to do, just rewrite the same crappy code over the years ^^ |
| 00:30:39 | Xentac | has this strange urge to start up a blog and write rants in it... he fears that he'll fail miserably because he'll lose interest... |
| 00:30:40 | DevGirl | and everytime the code is "crappier" than before ^^ |
| 00:31:25 | scanline | brb |
| 00:32:39 | Xentac | and if I just used it as a journal instead of a rant page I fear I would forget about it and never post anything... or no one would read it anyway... |
| 00:32:47 | gonkulator | PicoBot: class? |
| 00:32:47 | PicoBot | well, class is KABOOM! |
| 00:33:59 | carpman | I could never code for microsoft, and in truth, I could never bring myself to write code I know is bad. |
| 00:34:23 | DevGirl | lalo says the same thing |
| 00:34:41 | DevGirl | I'm starting to code, so I can't say anything ^^ |
| 00:34:44 | carpman | I've been playing with computers since I was 7, I've never once released code I knew was bad. |
| 00:35:00 | carpman | well, I suppose PGL is pushing it ;) |
| 00:35:02 | Xentac | who's to say that every programmer writes bad code there? |
| 00:35:25 | Xentac | hasn't released code that was bad before either... oh wait... he has... the only code he's ever released was bad... heliosync |
| 00:35:42 | carpman | No, Microsoft has a core group of awesome programmers, but their job is to maintain. |
| 00:36:28 | carpman | the problem is the design of Windows is fundamentaly flawed, so anything written for it inherits those flaws. |
| 00:36:30 | scanline | Microsoft is building a fortress out of jello... takes more effort to keep it up than it does to improve it |
| 00:36:53 | carpman | eats the jello. |
| 00:37:02 | DevGirl | yikes! |
| 00:37:03 | scanline | it's probably gone bad by now :) |
| 00:37:03 | carpman | EWWW... LIME!!! ACK |
| 00:37:16 | Xentac | it's not like the programmers are told to write crappy code... (well... not unless you believe all the conspiracies) |
| 00:37:33 | carpman | No, but some people who are programmers just arent cut out for it. |
| 00:37:49 | carpman | Christine couldn't understand this, but there IS such a thing as a geek. |
| 00:38:10 | carpman | Its an attitude that is ingrained in these people, myself included, that lends itself to logical thinking. |
| 00:38:15 | Xentac | cut out for programming? |
| 00:38:57 | carpman | You have to want to program, if you do it for a job, you'll write nothing but so-so code. |
| 00:39:03 | carpman | well |
| 00:39:06 | scanline | pours a glass of Red Dew and looks at his homework due tomorrow |
| 00:39:08 | carpman | if you do it JUST for a job |
| 00:39:26 | Xentac | what if you want to program but don't have time to do it anywhere but at a job? |
| 00:39:37 | carpman | thats ok, you still WANT to program |
| 00:39:41 | Xentac | ah |
| 00:39:52 | carpman | lots of programers dont want to program, but they do it anyway. |
| 00:40:03 | carpman | they see it as just another job, another rung on the corporate ladder. |
| 00:40:06 | scanline | sometimes you just make time :) |
| 00:40:12 | Xentac | so someone who's attitude is that it's just a job (money, cause they feel they can't do anything else, etc) don't make good code? |
| 00:40:21 | carpman | not most of the time |
| 00:40:32 | Xentac | scanline: I made time for things like Judo ;o) |
| 00:40:38 | scanline | yep |
| 00:40:40 | Xentac | nods in agreement at carpman. |
| 00:40:56 | scanline | carpman: hmm.. like those Exadigm programmers :) |
| 00:41:09 | Xentac | has never had enough... ummm... sticktoitiveness to code a lot. |
| 00:41:33 | carpman | they can have there moments, but they never enter the zen state of seeing the vision of the finished program in there head, and writing it in almost automatic mode while their busy manipulating the concepts. |
| 00:41:50 | scanline | Xentac: I'm usually like that too |
| 00:42:12 | Xentac | scanline: somehow I have trouble believing that *points at picogui* |
| 00:42:13 | scanline | I've actually never finished a large programming project :) |
| 00:42:25 | scanline | Xentac: picogui's the first project that I've stuck with |
| 00:42:32 | Xentac | I'm talking like worked on a project for more than a month |
| 00:42:42 | Xentac | has trouble doing that most of the time... unless it's a job |
| 00:42:44 | scanline | I've had other projects... a 3D engine, several smaller things... just lost interest |
| 00:43:17 | carpman | that happens alot. The best thing you can do with those is learn from them, and apply those ideas somewhere else. |
| 00:43:23 | scanline | yep |
| 00:43:34 | scanline | learned a lot tinkering with graphics programming |
| 00:43:56 | Xentac | doesn't have many ideas... he suffers from a lack of project ideas... a lack of ideas in general |
| 00:44:08 | Xentac | so... when I do have an idea... I wish to capitalize on it |
| 00:44:20 | carpman | Xentac: hit in the head too many times :) |
| 00:44:52 | scanline | carpman: that's also the bucket the Kiwi project fell into... but I definitely learned a lot from it, and it gave me the idea for picogui :) |
| 00:45:10 | Xentac | yeah.. something like that ;P |
| 00:45:38 | scanline | Xentac: just look at sourceforge.. most of the projects on there are ideas that were abandoned, with little or no code |
| 00:46:31 | lalo | large programming projects never "finish" ;-) |
| 00:47:03 | scanline | I guess I should say "become usable" instead of "finish" |
| 00:47:24 | Xentac | scanline: I know... but I'm not trying to compare my patheticivity to other people's... I'm trying to wallow in my own self-patheticness |
| 00:47:35 | scanline | ha |
| 00:59:20 | lalo | but either way, move to Brazil ;-) |
| 00:59:40 | lalo | if I can't conquer the world, perhaps I can build a geek city. |
| 00:59:47 | scanline | :) |
| 00:59:57 | Xentac | ummm... yeah... |
| 01:00:04 | Xentac | what's riding a motorcycle like in Brazil? |
| 01:00:19 | lalo | pretty much the same as everywhere else ;-) |
| 01:00:26 | Xentac | :P |
| 01:00:47 | lalo | but in our city it's extra-fun because here is mountainous and the climate is mild (not hot and not too cold, at least not for you) |
| 01:00:53 | Xentac | I mean traffic... are people semi-competent are do you get hit all the time? are there too many cars? etc |
| 01:01:06 | lalo | not too many cars here |
| 01:01:30 | lalo | people are semi-competent in most places, but in São Paulo and Rio people like like crazy monkeys |
| 01:01:39 | lalo | think NY and you will get the idea |
| 01:01:43 | KeyserSoze | any of y'all ever use netbsd, or install an OS on a Sun IPX, or know what "Bad magic number in disk label" might mean? |
| 01:01:43 | DevGirl | hehehehhe |
| 01:01:46 | Xentac | nods. |
| 01:01:50 | DevGirl | crazy monkeys ^^ |
| 01:02:10 | lalo | KeyserSoze: it means your disk didn't study numerology. |
| 01:02:13 | fragglet | kthxbye |
| 01:02:19 | DevGirl | yeah! a geek city would be a great idea ^^ |
| 01:02:53 | KeyserSoze | lalo: I taught it Feng Shui, I thought that would be sufficient. |
| 01:03:19 | lalo | oh no |
| 01:03:30 | lalo | numerology is essential for computing devices |
| 01:03:57 | KeyserSoze | let me check it's manufactured date, to determine it's astrological sign. be back in a minute... |
| 01:04:07 | scanline | Oh no.. if you rearrange the bootloader to make it more Feng Shui, it might not boot |
| 01:04:20 | fragglet | a geek nation would be cool |
| 01:04:25 | fragglet | except there would be constant civil wars |
| 01:04:29 | carpman | KeyserSoze: if its Western Digital, your drive is Cancer(ous) no matter what. |
| 01:04:31 | lalo | scanline: partitioning solves that |
| 01:04:33 | fragglet | emacs vs vi, gpl vs bsd etc |
| 01:04:40 | lalo | fragglet: nah |
| 01:04:47 | lalo | just flamewars. |
| 01:04:52 | KeyserSoze | damn, i re-ordered the boot image so all the 1's are towards the east, and all the 0's towards the nearest running water. i was sure that would keep demons away. |
| 01:05:07 | lalo | one of the cool things of our culture is that it continues working despite all that bitching and hate |
| 01:05:09 | scanline | We'd just have to declare vi, emacs, gpl, bsd, kde, emacs, and so forth to all be religions, then have a freedom of religion thing |
| 01:05:16 | Xentac | REAL flamewars... everyone would walk around wearing asbestos! |
| 01:05:22 | fragglet | free as in religion? |
| 01:05:25 | lalo | KeyserSoze: it does, but it also disturbs your daemons. |
| 01:05:28 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: bwahahahaha |
| 01:05:32 | KeyserSoze | carpman: it's a boot floppy. I just downloaded it from a NetBSD ftp server, and put it on a floppy. |
| 01:05:43 | lalo | or free as in beer? |
| 01:06:02 | lalo | perhaps we should have 3 states |
| 01:06:36 | KeyserSoze | ternary sounds like trouble. better stick to two states. |
| 01:06:39 | lalo | one for Free Software "tree-huggers", one for the Open Source advocates and one for the people with no conscience who don't care for any of this |
| 01:06:47 | DevGirl | perhaps we should take the world. would be easier ^^ |
| 01:07:12 | lalo | then again people would want to elect RMS governor of the Free Software state... and... |
| 01:07:16 | lalo | bah, that wouldn't work. |
| 01:07:24 | lalo | shrugs |
| 01:08:01 | DevGirl | eheheehhe |
| 01:08:15 | fragglet | saint iGNUcius |
| 01:08:22 | DevGirl | thats a lot of dumb geek in the world ^^ |
| 01:08:42 | Xentac | well... either they elect RMS... or he tries to usurp (sp) the seat |
| 01:09:08 | DevGirl | kill him and make it a monarchy ^^ |
| 01:09:14 | Xentac | woohoo! |
| 01:09:21 | Xentac | everyone will bow before King Xentac |
| 01:09:22 | DevGirl | :) |
| 01:09:29 | DevGirl | kicks xentac |
| 01:09:32 | DevGirl | ^^ |
| 01:09:33 | Xentac | hey? |
| 01:09:35 | Xentac | what? |
| 01:09:41 | DevGirl | is the queen |
| 01:09:43 | DevGirl | alone! |
| 01:09:47 | Xentac | a guy can dream, can't he? |
| 01:09:50 | DevGirl | no king, no princes |
| 01:09:58 | DevGirl | power to me ^^ |
| 01:10:02 | lalo | sings by Queen |
| 01:10:03 | Xentac | we could make it an oligarchy... |
| 01:10:13 | DevGirl | and the world will be a smiley world |
| 01:10:16 | Xentac | everyone in #picogui could be leader |
| 01:10:19 | lalo | she's a killer queen, gunpowder gelatine, dynamite with a laser beam... guaranteed to blow your mind... |
| 01:10:23 | Xentac | unless they're constantly stoned... |
| 01:10:24 | DevGirl | people would be happier ^^ |
| 01:10:28 | lalo | doo-be-doo-be-doo... |
| 01:10:47 | KeyserSoze | you're fooling yourself. we live in an anarcho-syndicalist commune. |
| 01:10:50 | Xentac | lalo: so that's what those words are... |
| 01:11:07 | DevGirl | queen's music... don't know the name :P |
| 01:11:46 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: oh right... and we would each take turns being leader for a week... and all of our changes would be authorized during a special bi-weekly meeting |
| 01:12:02 | DevGirl | bah |
| 01:12:13 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: I saw a guy on a bike today and it reminded me of you... you know why? |
| 01:12:20 | KeyserSoze | Xentac: why? |
| 01:12:33 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: he had a coffee holder (and a coffee mug in it!) |
| 01:12:46 | file[droid] | Xentac: how goeth the bike? |
| 01:12:46 | DevGirl | mhuawhwuhawuwahauwhawuawhw |
| 01:12:50 | KeyserSoze | Xentac: I don't drink coffee... |
| 01:12:51 | DevGirl | that was GOOD! |
| 01:13:12 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: that's not the point... you said one of the problems with bikes was that there's nowhere to put your drink |
| 01:13:25 | KeyserSoze | i did? |
| 01:13:36 | Xentac | file[droid]: it's sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet (for pronounciation see 'Dude Where's My Car) |
| 01:13:38 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: you did |
| 01:14:15 | fragglet | wheres your car dude |
| 01:14:15 | file[droid] | Xentac: what does mine say? "Sweeeeeeet!" what does mine say? "Dude!!!!!!!!!" what does mine say? "Sweeeeeeet!" |
| 01:14:16 | KeyserSoze | ah, who really pays attention to what I say, anyway? |
| 01:14:25 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: oh yeah... I forgot... |
| 01:14:32 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: you've seen pictures of my bike... right? |
| 01:15:48 | KeyserSoze | yup |
| 01:16:17 | Xentac | it runs now :) |
| 01:16:24 | KeyserSoze | cool |
| 01:16:27 | Xentac | rode today for something like 4 hours (though was out for 6) |
| 01:16:29 | KeyserSoze | you got the tank coated? |
| 01:16:32 | Xentac | yup |
| 01:16:40 | Xentac | and there are no problems with it now... |
| 01:16:55 | KeyserSoze | :) |
| 01:17:00 | Xentac | except that I only got 138kms out of the tank (well... till I turned it to reserve) that sort of sucked |
| 01:17:36 | Xentac | but highway speeds will probably give me better mileage... as well as the engine being more worn in (it's only got 1900kms on it now)... as well as me using the reserve for longer |
| 01:25:50 | lalo | Xentac: besides I and DevGirl are also motorcycle fans, so in a few months when we settle economically we can go riding in group ;-) |
| 01:27:36 | lalo | hmm. New python release. |
| 01:27:39 | Xentac | lalo: hehehe... yeah... that's always fun (as long as you're comfortable with the people) |
| 01:28:23 | lalo | looks forward to the pleasure of tweaking python for the vr3 for a new flyingcircus release (irony intended) |
| 01:30:03 | scanline | should make openzaurus packages for python, rec_c, and freetype |
| 01:30:48 | KeyserSoze | picks up the whip... |
| 01:31:03 | KeyserSoze | scanline, is picogui working on the zaurus right now? |
| 01:31:14 | scanline | KeyserSoze: yeah |
| 01:31:25 | KeyserSoze | cool! |
| 01:31:27 | scanline | I need to update the OZ packages for res_c though |
| 01:31:48 | scanline | but I got all the segfault bugs I could find out of pgserver, so it's pretty much usable |
| 01:32:35 | lalo | raises a sign - "come everyone to Brazil! Let's make Caxias do Sul a geek city!" |
| 01:32:57 | lalo | "living is absurdly cheap if you're paid in dollars" ;-) |
| 01:33:04 | KeyserSoze | "Caxias do Sul", is that all one city name? |
| 01:34:24 | lalo | yes |
| 01:34:30 | Xentac | would have to learn to speak Spanish though (spanish in Brazil, right? not Brazilian...?) |
| 01:34:37 | lalo | no |
| 01:34:38 | KeyserSoze | portuguese. |
| 01:34:39 | lalo | Portuguese |
| 01:34:54 | Xentac | ah |
| 01:35:02 | KeyserSoze | what's the second most popular language? English? |
| 01:35:08 | lalo | "do Sul" means literally "South" (in the sense of, "the south one", as in "South Carolina") |
| 01:35:16 | Xentac | right... the closest modern language to latin... |
| 01:35:31 | lalo | KeyserSoze: in Brazil or world? |
| 01:35:46 | KeyserSoze | in Brazil. |
| 01:36:10 | lalo | most people only speak Portuguese. But the most popular "second language" is english, yes. |
| 01:36:48 | lalo | in some regions it's spanish or even italian |
| 01:37:11 | KeyserSoze | hmm. /me is uni-lingual, unfortunately. |
| 01:38:01 | lalo | dont't worry. Nobody is perfect. }:-) |
| 01:38:46 | lalo | 3[8<12o8>3] |
| 01:39:09 | KeyserSoze | I heard that people in Brazil were upset when the Simpson's had an episode partially set there. is that actually true, or just something the american media blew out of proportion? |
| 01:39:28 | lalo | clicks on the second radio button |
| 01:39:53 | lalo | some very vocal people overreacted, then the american media over-over-re-reacted ;-) |
| 01:40:24 | lalo | but the Brazilian people is mostly humorous and easygoing. Most people I know laughed their heads out. |
| 01:40:37 | lalo | the people who complained had no idea what the simpsons were about |
| 01:40:45 | KeyserSoze | ah, good. |
| 01:40:51 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 01:41:15 | KeyserSoze | was worried he'd get to Brazil, and accidentally mention the simpson's, and then get deported. |
| 01:41:30 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: somehow... I think not... |
| 01:41:34 | lalo | the problem was that one of these very vocal people who had no idea had a job in the federal government and started to sue |
| 01:41:50 | lalo | but then the presidend personally gave him a spanking and everything went back to normal. |
| 01:41:58 | lalo | (IIRC) |
| 01:42:28 | darth_balls | and back |
| 01:43:47 | KeyserSoze | are external SCSI enclosures hot-swappable? |
| 01:44:16 | merlin262 | guess I better start on that homework, eh carpman? |
| 01:44:36 | carpman | merlin262: hehe |
| 01:44:39 | carpman | what is today? |
| 01:44:41 | carpman | PicoBot: date? |
| 01:44:42 | PicoBot | gets a date |
| 01:44:57 | carpman | Oh, GREAT! The bot has a GF and I don't/ |
| 01:45:03 | carpman | and all I asked it was todays date!!!!! |
| 01:45:06 | merlin262 | 10/14/2002 |
| 01:45:06 | kergoth | carpman: shit,. you took the words right out of my mouth |
| 01:45:06 | Xentac | carpman: you're telling me! |
| 01:45:30 | KeyserSoze | date != GF... |
| 01:45:32 | darth_balls | hey gonkulator |
| 01:45:36 | gonkulator | hey darth_balls |
| 01:45:39 | DevGirl | hehehehehhehe |
| 01:45:39 | Xentac | hey gonkulator |
| 01:45:41 | darth_balls | gonkulator: just the man I was hoping to see |
| 01:45:53 | DevGirl | is PicoBot's date ^^ |
| 01:45:53 | gonkulator | is just the man I was hoping to be |
| 01:45:57 | carpman | got a neo-geo pocket color |
| 01:46:00 | darth_balls | lol |
| 01:46:00 | lalo | gonkulator: we're running a campaign |
| 01:46:32 | Xentac | DevGirl: does lalo know? |
| 01:46:35 | lalo | raises a sign - "come everyone to Brazil! Let's make Caxias do Sul a geek city!" 3[8<12o8>3] |
| 01:46:46 | darth_balls | gonkulator: I still can't LILO to load winderz |
| 01:46:50 | Xentac | DevGirl: are you just dating him so that you can poke him? |
| 01:46:54 | DevGirl | Xentac: lalo is a great guy ^^ |
| 01:46:58 | darth_balls | likes lalo's idea |
| 01:46:59 | merlin262 | carpman: I thought this program would at LEAST require functions. :/ |
| 01:46:59 | gonkulator | lalo: whats the camping |
| 01:47:03 | KeyserSoze | darth_balls: use |
| 01:47:25 | KeyserSoze | use grub, even. |
| 01:47:26 | gonkulator | lalo: whats the campaign? |
| 01:47:38 | lalo | this I have just said. |
| 01:47:44 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: bootloaders are evil |
| 01:47:53 | kergoth | lalo: I like the campaign |
| 01:47:59 | darth_balls | KeyserSoze: can't get grub to install |
| 01:48:01 | lalo | we call it "the geek city campaign" |
| 01:48:05 | gonkulator | what the hell is this campaing |
| 01:48:11 | gonkulator | er, campaign |
| 01:48:16 | lalo | ponders registering geekcity.sf.net |
| 01:48:28 | lalo | raises a sign (again for gonkey) - "come everyone to Brazil! Let's make Caxias do Sul a geek city!" 3[8<12o8>3] |
| 01:48:32 | kergoth | lalo: i'm tired of where i live, i'm up for it |
| 01:48:34 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:49:28 | darth_balls | gonkulator: suggestions for my LILO problem? |
| 01:49:31 | gonkulator | asks what sort of bandwidth this city would have |
| 01:49:37 | gonkulator | darth_balls: email me your lilo.conf |
| 01:49:40 | gonkulator | it is probably an issue in there |
| 01:49:46 | darth_balls | ok |
| 01:49:50 | KeyserSoze | wonders if it'd be possible to drive from US/Canadia to Brazil. |
| 01:50:10 | KeyserSoze | that'd take a while. |
| 01:50:28 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: road trip! |
| 01:50:33 | kergoth | man, thatd be one hell of a road trip |
| 01:50:40 | file[droid] | I dare you! |
| 01:50:50 | darth_balls | gonkulator: brandon@navi.picogui.org? |
| 01:50:56 | gonkulator | darth_balls: that works |
| 01:51:07 | darth_balls | ok |
| 01:51:09 | kergoth | shit, a road trip to brazil would be one you'd remember for the rest of your life |
| 01:51:26 | Xentac | had better prepare to get out his lining for his jacket because it's beginning to get a little cold... |
| 01:51:34 | KeyserSoze | can I connect an external SCSI enclosure to a machine without powering down? |
| 01:51:52 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: I'd think so... but don't quote me on it... |
| 01:51:58 | file[droid] | Xentac: supposed to be -2 tomorrow morning... when I have to walk to school |
| 01:52:19 | Xentac | file[droid]: ha ha |
| 01:52:34 | file[droid] | gives permission to laugh at that |
| 01:52:50 | KeyserSoze | me enters "Grand Rapids, MI, USA" and "Caxias do Sul, Brazil" into mapquest. |
| 01:53:10 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: hah |
| 01:53:14 | file[droid] | lol |
| 01:53:18 | DevGirl | mhuwahwuhwauwahauwhawuawhuawhawu |
| 01:53:21 | file[droid] | KeyserSoze: you wish |
| 01:53:29 | DevGirl | imagines that road trip |
| 01:53:33 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: how far is it? |
| 01:53:35 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: i'm in MN, we should car pool to brazil |
| 01:53:37 | kergoth | haha |
| 01:53:40 | kergoth | oh man, thatd be nuts |
| 01:53:42 | DevGirl | 2 continents |
| 01:55:00 | KeyserSoze | kergoth: we'd need a different car, I can only fit myself and Sophie in my vette. |
| 01:55:05 | KeyserSoze | anyone have a Land Rover? |
| 01:55:09 | KeyserSoze | or a Humvee? |
| 01:55:10 | lalo | Che Guevara rode from Argentina to Mexico on a semi-busted motorbike he built himself by attaching a motor to a bicycle |
| 01:55:18 | KeyserSoze | http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?size=big&mapdata=gwI132w%2fLpmS6C2El9PsSon11QnilX3Q6KdeijsGuBoBY3VYTXf5YcFmtEkWy2o7FkK%2fmKtcDBTvMn%2ftkKdO7s9uvQhzlzOX3xjjiP1LxB1qQHZCa7ou8fpIRrOPr%2fcdeyviqJax7CM9Xp%2bAHjib8tnnACw8EwmfU7fH2V9wmv5LbqTxNktPuxoedKrl%2b%2fZXBq%2b7g%2bc9ujjSFduLma2AyxEhWbOkOLWb0qAFJT97NBwACt4IriEogClZyDP5AUMOgbFNrspeN%2bQYx%2bp1WAdctj7iKci%2fGzxk5OtbRYs9FJvaIzi2ELgI9%2bFm9hEZEcPtrkR%2bKEG%2bldJaH51u2duVj%2b4yLN%2fXqJLI |
| 01:55:20 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: i wish, i'm in a 95 monte carlo :) |
| 01:55:22 | lalo | nowadays it is, yes, possible but you have to ferry trough panama |
| 01:55:45 | kergoth | lalo: its actually tempting, just to say you did it, and for the experience :) |
| 01:55:46 | darth_balls | gonkulator: there ya go, it's off |
| 01:55:54 | scanline | holy cow that's a long URL |
| 01:56:04 | kergoth | no kidding |
| 01:56:07 | Xentac | kergoth: why do you think I want to ride across Canada? |
| 01:56:13 | kergoth | in console w/o gpm, theres no way in hell i'm typing that into elinks |
| 01:56:15 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:56:16 | darth_balls | pokes scanline |
| 01:56:21 | scanline | is poked |
| 01:56:31 | file[droid] | yeah! Xentac is going to come visit me! |
| 01:56:35 | darth_balls | scanline: does your bro ever get online? haven't talked to him in ages |
| 01:56:43 | Xentac | kergoth: it's just mapquests's result for Caxias do Sul |
| 01:56:43 | KeyserSoze | lalo: Che Guevara, he's the guy from Rage against the Machine, right? |
| 01:56:44 | lalo | kergoth: go install and start gpm |
| 01:56:52 | lalo | KeyserSoze: :-P |
| 01:57:13 | kergoth | lalo: but.. i'm lazy |
| 01:57:17 | scanline | darth_balls: nope.. he doesn't use any IM software or IRC, and he doesn't check his email (despite nagging to do so) |
| 01:57:17 | kergoth | lalo: i'm even too lazy to apt-get it |
| 01:57:41 | KeyserSoze | doh! Caxias do Sul is at the southern end of Brazil! |
| 01:57:43 | darth_balls | scanline: tell him I say 'BAH!' |
| 01:57:49 | scanline | :) |
| 01:57:52 | KeyserSoze | that's like an extra 2 days of driving from North America! |
| 01:57:54 | scanline | I had lunch with him yesterday |
| 01:58:03 | darth_balls | next time you talk to him say hi for me |
| 01:58:03 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: how many miles? |
| 01:58:08 | scanline | darth_balls: will do |
| 01:58:13 | kergoth | man, centericq is sweet |
| 01:58:34 | darth_balls | pokes trev telekinetically |
| 01:58:38 | KeyserSoze | just to get from the northern edge of Brazil to Caxias do Sul is about 600 miles. |
| 01:58:43 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: hah |
| 01:58:44 | darth_balls | gonkulator: you get it? |
| 01:58:52 | scanline | darth_balls: I could give you his phone number :) |
| 01:59:00 | gonkulator | darth_balls: sorry, busy |
| 01:59:02 | darth_balls | naw thanks though |
| 01:59:08 | darth_balls | doesn't use the fone much |
| 01:59:19 | darth_balls | gonkulator: no worries |
| 01:59:21 | scanline | forgot what to dial to get an outside line last time he used the phone :) |
| 01:59:23 | file[droid] | called Xentac, carpman, and gonkulator this weekend |
| 01:59:29 | darth_balls | does that all the time |
| 01:59:34 | darth_balls | forgot how old he was yesterday |
| 01:59:44 | lalo | KeyserSoze: yes, that's why it's "do Sul" ;-) |
| 01:59:47 | Xentac | my bike is so cool... I shift into second at around 40 km/h... third at like 70 km/h... fourth at 100-110 km/h |
| 01:59:49 | file[droid] | er wait - last weekend isn't it? |
| 01:59:50 | kergoth | darth_balls: thats not a good sign |
| 02:00:00 | file[droid] | today is Monday... not Sunday |
| 02:00:01 | darth_balls | is envious of Xentac |
| 02:00:06 | Xentac | darth_balls: why? |
| 02:00:13 | darth_balls | really wants a motorcycle |
| 02:00:17 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 02:00:22 | KeyserSoze | lalo: what are the speed limits in Brazil? do you have any autobahns running north-south? |
| 02:00:29 | gonkulator | darth_balls: I see your error |
| 02:00:33 | lalo | no |
| 02:00:36 | darth_balls | is it the quotes? |
| 02:00:42 | gonkulator | darth_balls: root=/dev/hda2 not root=dev/hda2 |
| 02:00:51 | Xentac | then you too can be a martial art practicing, motorcycle riding geek |
| 02:00:58 | lalo | I heard the best road for that is one that runs over the west coast of south america (thus Chile) |
| 02:01:06 | darth_balls | Xentac: that's the goal ^_^ |
| 02:01:22 | lalo | then you'd cross Argentina and enter trough Rio Grande do Sul, not far from Caxias - extra fun: you'd know more countries |
| 02:01:42 | KeyserSoze | yay, more stamps on my passport. |
| 02:01:44 | darth_balls | gonkulator: where? |
| 02:01:50 | kergoth | Xentac: i'll stick to being a car driving, martial art practicing, knife throwing geek |
| 02:01:54 | lalo | entering via the north is not recommended, you'd have to cross the amazon and there aren't many good roads |
| 02:01:56 | gonkulator | oh, you had to type it in... |
| 02:02:05 | darth_balls | gonkulator: yeah, that was a typo |
| 02:02:06 | Xentac | kergoth: bah, that's not as cool ;o) |
| 02:02:30 | darth_balls | gonkulator: it loads Linux just fine, it won't load winders |
| 02:02:33 | file[droid] | hums |
| 02:02:49 | gonkulator | darth_balls: what is the "table" argument |
| 02:02:50 | kergoth | Xentac: hrmph. fine then. |
| 02:02:53 | kergoth | Xentac: heheh |
| 02:02:55 | gonkulator | darth_balls: try taking that out |
| 02:02:58 | KeyserSoze | laments powering off his sparcstation, for since it's battery is dead, he must re-enter bios info on every reboot. |
| 02:03:13 | file[droid] | KeyserSoze: leave it on? |
| 02:03:20 | darth_balls | gonkulator: try taking what out? |
| 02:03:23 | lalo | shivers with the memory of the Sun firmware |
| 02:03:36 | gonkulator | in the NT loader part |
| 02:03:48 | KeyserSoze | file[droid]: AFIAK, i should shut it off to connect a SCSI enclosure. |
| 02:03:49 | lalo | then again the DEC one is worse. |
| 02:04:02 | file[droid] | KeyserSoze: but you'll have to re-enter info |
| 02:04:08 | darth_balls | gonkulator: ok |
| 02:04:17 | Xentac | notes that there are docs to help set up dualboot linux+NT... they could probably help better than gonkulator... |
| 02:04:36 | darth_balls | gonkulator: you think I need to have the /dev/hdb1 in quotes? like everything else? |
| 02:04:44 | kergoth | wanders off to make another long island, then realizes he's out of sour mix and curses!@#^% |
| 02:05:01 | darth_balls | Xentac: I looked at all of those this afternoon, and I couldn't find the problem |
| 02:05:12 | Xentac | really... |
| 02:05:14 | darth_balls | Xentac: but if you could recommend some sites I'd really appreciate it |
| 02:05:26 | darth_balls | I didn't check *all* of them, just the ones I found ;) |
| 02:05:36 | Xentac | look at the dual boot howto |
| 02:05:44 | Xentac | (it's NT, or 2000?) |
| 02:05:45 | darth_balls | where? |
| 02:05:49 | darth_balls | 2000 |
| 02:06:02 | Xentac | search for 'dual boot howto' on google ;P |
| 02:06:08 | darth_balls | ok, duh |
| 02:06:13 | darth_balls | must be tired |
| 02:06:24 | Xentac | then search for something like 'win2000 linux lilo howto'... or try the search without the howto part |
| 02:07:03 | darth_balls | Xentac: thanks ^_^ |
| 02:07:11 | file[droid] | waves to his 2000 machine |
| 02:08:24 | lalo | could recommend some sites |
| 02:08:25 | KeyserSoze | wonders how kergoth can run out of curses... |
| 02:08:37 | lalo | opens the bookmark menu on the "pr0n" section |
| 02:08:42 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: lol |
| 02:08:52 | darth_balls | brb |
| 02:08:54 | kergoth | i ran out of sour mix, and then i subsequently cursed loudly. |
| 02:08:57 | kergoth | to clarify :) |
| 02:10:04 | file[droid] | lalo: O.O |
| 02:15:20 | darth_balls | grr |
| 02:19:27 | darth_balls | grrr |
| 02:19:37 | darth_balls | gonkulator: question: |
| 02:19:42 | file[droid] | sleep( MINIMUM_AMOUNT ); |
| 02:20:04 | file[droid] | while( body->status == "sleeping" ) { snore(); } |
| 02:20:04 | darth_balls | gonkulator: do you think it might have something to do with the partitions that were on there from the gentoo attempt? |
| 02:20:19 | darth_balls | file[droid]: lol |
| 02:20:36 | gonkulator | darth_balls: no |
| 02:21:00 | darth_balls | then I give up, I'm just gonna reinstall and use grub |
| 02:21:07 | gonkulator | alright |
| 02:21:10 | gonkulator | good luck :) |
| 02:21:25 | darth_balls | mumbles about how crappy windoze makes his life |
| 02:21:30 | darth_balls | c u guys on the iBook |
| 02:22:59 | d_b[ibook] | hello |
| 02:26:51 | gonkulator | hi |
| 02:27:30 | d_b[ibook] | and so it begins |
| 02:27:45 | file[droid] | what begins? |
| 02:27:48 | kergoth | it. |
| 02:27:55 | file[droid] | that? |
| 02:28:12 | lalo | it, of course. |
| 02:28:17 | file[droid] | slaps kergoth with a tuxedo |
| 02:28:19 | kergoth | no, not *that* |
| 02:28:21 | kergoth | *it* |
| 02:28:30 | kergoth | smacks file with a 2x4 |
| 02:28:34 | d_b[ibook] | file[droid]: the reinstall of Linux |
| 02:28:38 | d_b[ibook] | w/ grub as the boot loader |
| 02:28:44 | file[droid] | ic |
| 02:29:45 | lalo | but... |
| 02:29:51 | lalo | you don't *need* to reinstall it! |
| 02:29:54 | lalo | just install grub |
| 02:30:01 | kergoth | hugs grub |
| 02:49:46 | d_b[iBook] | lalala |
| 02:53:20 | d_b[iBook] | gonkulator: you here? |
| 02:53:35 | d_b[iBook] | scanline? or am I all alone? |
| 02:53:39 | d_b[iBook] | is lonely |
| 02:53:43 | Xentac | is here. |
| 02:53:47 | gonkulator | is here |
| 02:53:50 | gonkulator | sorry |
| 02:53:53 | gonkulator | reading slashdot |
| 02:53:54 | scanline | is here |
| 02:54:00 | scanline | is trying to figure out carpman's code :) |
| 02:54:16 | Xentac | is reading about motorcycle touring... |
| 02:54:28 | d_b[iBook] | is still jealous of Xentac |
| 02:54:39 | scanline | d_b[iBook]: your IRC client isn't handling /me properly |
| 02:54:42 | kergoth | feels like a road trip |
| 02:54:55 | scanline | road trip! |
| 02:54:59 | scanline | I'd be up for that |
| 02:55:10 | Xentac | hmmms... as he finds an alloy GPS holder... that's cool |
| 02:55:15 | kergoth | i'm bored off my ass, work is sucking horribly, i need a damn break |
| 02:55:25 | d_b[iBook] | kergoth: where are you living? |
| 02:56:01 | d_b[iBook] | yay! the install is almost done |
| 02:56:08 | d_b[iBook] | if this doesn't work I'm gonna scream! |
| 02:56:17 | kergoth | d_b[iBook]: minnesota |
| 02:56:21 | d_b[iBook] | damn |
| 02:56:28 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:56:29 | kergoth | where you at |
| 02:56:36 | d_b[iBook] | I was gonna suggest a road trip to Durango co |
| 02:56:42 | Xentac | is going to keep a lot of his trip across Canada (hopefully both ways...) |
| 02:56:45 | d_b[iBook] | visit darth_balls! |
| 02:57:04 | d_b[iBook] | party at my place and everyone in #picogui is invited ;) |
| 02:57:13 | kergoth | hah. i should go to CO though, i've got family there, not to mention you guys. and hardwire. and ljp |
| 02:57:20 | d_b[iBook] | hmmm... on second thought maybe we'd better move that to Nathan's place =D |
| 02:57:47 | d_b[iBook] | his place is *slightly* bigger than mine |
| 02:59:33 | d_b[iBook] | starts wondering what it would take to host the biggest LAN party in history |
| 03:00:00 | Xentac | d_b[iBook]: that'd have to be pretty big... |
| 03:00:08 | d_b[iBook] | ;) |
| 03:00:14 | d_b[iBook] | I should hope so |
| 03:00:32 | d_b[iBook] | the cost of Mt. Dew alone would rival the nat'l debt =D |
| 03:00:41 | kergoth | mmm dew |
| 03:01:30 | d_b[iBook] | wishes he had some Dew right now |
| 03:01:38 | lalo | BAH to dew. |
| 03:01:52 | kergoth | BAH to lalo |
| 03:01:55 | kergoth | dew rocks |
| 03:01:57 | lalo | it would have to have some Jolt if I'm supposed to cross two continents for it ;-) |
| 03:01:58 | Xentac | YAY to coke |
| 03:02:04 | kergoth | lalo: hah |
| 03:02:21 | d_b[iBook] | lalo: whatever floats your boat, as long as you came =) |
| 03:02:24 | lalo | PicoBot: peguicon? |
| 03:02:25 | PicoBot | lalo: no idea |
| 03:02:30 | kergoth | d_b[iBook]: you better stock this place with some vodka, gin, triple sec, tequila, and rum. |
| 03:02:33 | lalo | http://penguicon.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:02:35 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:02:41 | gonkulator | I have some Pepsi |
| 03:02:43 | gonkulator | about 12 of them |
| 03:02:46 | d_b[iBook] | lol |
| 03:02:53 | d_b[iBook] | kergoth: ever tried rum in Dew? |
| 03:03:01 | d_b[iBook] | waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy good! |
| 03:03:03 | kergoth | d_b[iBook]: rum in dew.. cant say that i have |
| 03:03:10 | kergoth | d_b[iBook]: hmm.. ive gotta try that |
| 03:03:15 | d_b[iBook] | it makes Dew taste christmasy |
| 03:03:22 | kergoth | d_b[iBook]: i tend to go with the classic long island, hence the alcohol list up there |
| 03:03:25 | kergoth | d_b[iBook]: :) |
| 03:03:27 | d_b[iBook] | cuz rum tastes like x-mas |
| 03:03:35 | d_b[iBook] | never had a long island |
| 03:03:45 | d_b[iBook] | dew w/ rum is the only 'mixed' drink I drink |
| 03:03:51 | kergoth | the long island is an amazing drink. its strong as hell due to all of the types of alcohol |
| 03:03:52 | d_b[iBook] | otherwise it's beer, or straight whiskey |
| 03:03:54 | _victor_ | Hey, does PyPicoGui on the Z work with regular Python stuff? |
| 03:03:54 | kergoth | but |
| 03:04:01 | kergoth | oi, i hate beer |
| 03:04:06 | d_b[iBook] | lol |
| 03:04:08 | lalo | _victor_: define "regular" |
| 03:04:10 | kergoth | give me whiskey straight up |
| 03:04:12 | kergoth | or something mixed |
| 03:04:19 | d_b[iBook] | what kind of beer have you tried? |
| 03:04:19 | kergoth | or hennesy or some other cognac |
| 03:04:28 | lalo | _victor_: also, is it python 2.2? |
| 03:04:35 | d_b[iBook] | no that pussy american $#!+ |
| 03:04:47 | scanline | I haven't made Python or cli_python packages for the Z yet, I might be doing that tonight |
| 03:04:49 | d_b[iBook] | likes his guiness |
| 03:05:10 | Xentac | hehehe... someone is here... asking about something picogui related... and everyone else is talking about alcohol |
| 03:05:16 | kergoth | i dont liek guinness or any other beer i've had so far |
| 03:05:16 | _victor_ | Yea, just python 2.2.1 |
| 03:05:19 | lalo | preferentially drinks wine or coke-with-rum, but stout is acceptable too |
| 03:05:23 | kergoth | Xentac: hehe. damn those on topic people. |
| 03:05:30 | d_b[iBook] | kergoth: fair enough |
| 03:05:32 | Xentac | kergoth: that's right! damn them! |
| 03:05:36 | scanline | hehe |
| 03:05:38 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:05:46 | gonkulator | is ready to get drunk now |
| 03:05:48 | Xentac | likes a lot of the micro-brew stuff from on the island here. |
| 03:05:51 | lalo | _victor_: yeah but what do you mean with "regular Python stuff"? |
| 03:06:00 | kergoth | d_b[iBook]: vodka + sour mix is pretty good. brandy w/ milk, etc |
| 03:06:03 | kergoth | i love mixing shit |
| 03:06:11 | kergoth | i think i'm going to go to bartending school, just for shits |
| 03:06:14 | kergoth | not for a job, just to learn |
| 03:06:15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:06:17 | _victor_ | NM. |
| 03:06:34 | lalo | ok :-) |
| 03:06:37 | lalo | it works with 2.2.1 |
| 03:06:47 | _victor_ | Ok. No problem then. Cya guys. |
| 03:07:02 | d_b[iBook] | kergoth: hehe |
| 03:07:30 | lalo | I wonder if he thought you need a special interpreter or what. |
| 03:07:35 | scanline | shrugs |
| 03:08:24 | scanline | puts off the res_c package until he can bug carpman, and makes a freetype package |
| 03:08:29 | kergoth | mutters again about being out of sour mix |
| 03:08:38 | d_b[iBook] | grrrr |
| 03:08:44 | d_b[iBook] | it still doesn't work |
| 03:08:53 | d_b[iBook] | maybe I need to reinstall windoze |
| 03:09:48 | kergoth | starts the 2.5.42 compile, wonders if itll actually finish |
| 03:14:50 | scanline | starts a fresh OZ picogui compile |
| 03:22:13 | gonkulator | night everyone |
| 03:22:18 | gonkulator | is away: sleepy time |
| 03:22:21 | Xentac | night gonkulator |
| 03:22:26 | gonkulator | night Xentac |
| 03:22:28 | gonkulator | night scanline |
| 03:22:53 | kergoth | night gonkulator, sleep well |
| 03:22:59 | d_b[iBook] | night gonkey |
| 03:26:14 | gonkulator | night kergoth |
| 03:26:20 | d_b[iBook] | time for some homework |
| 03:26:31 | gonkulator | hugs d_b[iBook] and says good night |
| 03:26:36 | darth_balls | hugs back |
| 03:26:46 | darth_balls | even though gonkey huged a different comp |
| 03:26:48 | darth_balls | ;) |
| 03:37:30 | DevGirl | ^^ |
| 03:37:36 | kergoth | yawns |
| 03:38:07 | DevGirl | you guys can't stay quiet, typing from one computer? |
| 03:38:22 | kergoth | ;? |
| 03:38:24 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:38:49 | DevGirl | ^^ |
| 03:38:50 | darth_balls | DevGirl: what? |
| 03:38:55 | darth_balls | is confuzzed |
| 03:38:57 | DevGirl | * gonkulator hugs d_b[iBook] and says good night |
| 03:38:57 | DevGirl | * darth_balls hugs back |
| 03:38:57 | DevGirl | <darth_balls> even though gonkey huged a different comp |
| 03:39:26 | darth_balls | so... what was the question |
| 03:39:33 | darth_balls | is feeling very out of it |
| 03:40:18 | d_b[iBook] | pokes DevGirl |
| 03:40:35 | DevGirl | bah |
| 03:40:38 | kergoth | is confused too |
| 03:40:45 | darth_balls | CROTCH |
| 03:40:45 | d_b[iBook] | CROTCH |
| 03:40:46 | kergoth | but /me is usually confused, so hey |
| 03:40:47 | DevGirl | crotches for d_b[iBook] |
| 03:40:58 | d_b[iBook] | THANK YOU |
| 03:41:01 | d_b[iBook] | oops, caps |
| 03:41:02 | DevGirl | crotches for darth_balls |
| 03:41:12 | darth_balls | ^_^ thanx |
| 03:41:20 | DevGirl | :) |
| 03:41:35 | darth_balls | doesn't wanna do his c++ hw |
| 03:41:43 | DevGirl | you're welcome |
| 03:41:56 | darth_balls | ooh, divinyls |
| 03:43:26 | kergoth | divinyls? |
| 03:43:36 | kergoth | that that band that did i love myself, or whatever that song was? |
| 03:43:51 | lalo | is away - drolling over penguicon again |
| 03:44:27 | darth_balls | sings |
| 03:44:40 | darth_balls | "I don't want, anybody else, when I think about you I touch myself" |
| 03:44:52 | darth_balls | kergoth: you got it |
| 03:44:59 | kergoth | yeah yeah, thought so |
| 03:45:00 | kergoth | you know |
| 03:45:02 | kergoth | i suck at names |
| 03:45:03 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 03:45:09 | kergoth | until i download the song as an mp3 or an ogg |
| 03:45:12 | darth_balls | loves cheesy 80's music |
| 03:45:13 | kergoth | then i remember it forever after |
| 03:45:14 | kergoth | its weird |
| 03:45:19 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 03:45:23 | kergoth | its only *download* that etches it into my memory |
| 03:46:32 | d_b[iBook] | lol |
| 03:47:21 | d_b[iBook] | loves having a zip drive in his tower |
| 04:01:35 | captain_proton | d_b[iBook]: you need another \001 after ACTION |
| 04:03:57 | captain_proton | dinnertime |
| 04:06:35 | lalo[out] | I think I'll want *one* match of thievery before sleep. |
| 04:08:36 | darth_balls | mmmmmmm Tony Rice |
| 04:08:49 | Xentac | lalo[out]: one... yeah right ;o) |
| 04:08:57 | lalo[out] | ;-) |
| 04:09:14 | darth_balls | captain_proton: thanks for the advice, I was testing a new pgm on my iBook |
| 04:09:19 | darth_balls | don't think I'll keep it |
| 04:09:28 | lalo[out] | DevGirl will probably blackjack me if I try to make it more than that |
| 04:09:33 | darth_balls | lol |
| 04:09:38 | darth_balls | really needs to get thievery |
| 04:09:48 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 04:10:45 | lalo[out] | yup. |
| 04:17:57 | DevGirl | aha!!! |
| 04:18:25 | DevGirl | I was thinking you were working on Dorneles machine!!!! |
| 04:18:40 | lalo[out] | "aha! blood!" |
| 04:18:40 | DevGirl | so you're playing thievery uh??? |
| 04:18:52 | lalo[out] | I don't ever work on windows if I have a choice. |
| 04:18:53 | DevGirl | I'll turn you into a pin cushion! |
| 04:19:00 | lalo[out] | Xentac: so, what did you think of it? |
| 04:19:16 | Xentac | lalo[out]: I'm going to have to try hard not to reboot into windows lots... |
| 04:19:24 | lalo[out] | :-D |
| 04:19:25 | DevGirl | You can't hide from me!!! |
| 04:19:35 | lalo[out] | it can run on wine, with a bit of work |
| 04:19:35 | Xentac | although the feeling-sick-because-it's-a-3d-shooter factor will slow me down as well |
| 04:19:40 | DevGirl | come into the light and fight! |
| 04:19:58 | DevGirl | gets the crossbow |
| 04:20:14 | DevGirl | chases lalo |
| 04:20:22 | Xentac | doesn't believe that he has his 3d card set up (good enough drivers, etc) in linux |
| 04:20:59 | lalo[out] | bah |
| 04:21:07 | lalo[out] | I'm a guard, fool. |
| 04:21:16 | DevGirl | approaches lalo and hit his head with a made |
| 04:21:18 | DevGirl | mace |
| 04:21:25 | DevGirl | bah! |
| 04:21:25 | darth_balls | time for some D2 |
| 04:21:43 | DevGirl | kicks lalo's butt and wait the next game to be a thief |
| 04:22:12 | lalo[out] | one of this days I'm going to ask someone with better Wine karma to help me set it up |
| 04:22:15 | DevGirl | hey! I can set you on fire! |
| 04:22:26 | DevGirl | gets a fire bolt |
| 04:22:26 | darthballs[ibook | rofl |
| 04:22:32 | lalo[out] | oh, I remember now. I couldn't get it to work because I need some DLLs from a non-NT windows |
| 04:25:33 | darthballs[ibook | admires his Su desktop |
| 04:29:02 | Xentac | hehehe... |
| 04:29:07 | Xentac | reading about hand signals on bikes... |
| 04:29:12 | Xentac | Point forward, shrug shoulders I don't know where we're going, I probably shouldn't be leading! |
| 04:30:08 | DevGirl | poings around |
| 04:30:31 | darthballs[ibook | lol |
| 04:32:16 | darthballs[ibook | needs health potions |
| 04:33:47 | Xentac | this guy's site is great... he's a USian but converts all the imperial values to metric... good for him! |
| 04:38:37 | lalo[out] | Xentac: btw, the speed limit is either 80 or 100 (metric of course) |
| 04:38:46 | Xentac | lalo[out]: where? |
| 04:39:03 | lalo[out] | here in brazil |
| 04:39:12 | Xentac | everywhere it's like that? |
| 04:40:00 | lalo[out] | most places |
| 04:40:27 | Xentac | that's cool |
| 04:40:32 | Xentac | but probably also dangerous ;o) |
| 04:42:01 | DevGirl | some highways are 120km/h |
| 04:42:47 | DevGirl | we have accidents, but most are because the dirivers are sleepy or drunk |
| 04:43:36 | darthballs[ibook | drunk drivers suck |
| 04:43:57 | lalo[out] | not in cities |
| 04:44:13 | lalo[out] | in cities it's 60/40 |
| 04:44:20 | hikke | Every highway is 120km/h in finland... |
| 04:44:26 | lalo[out] | 60 in avenues, 40 smaller roads |
| 04:44:43 | DevGirl | bah, no one does 60 :P |
| 04:46:36 | Xentac | wonders if he should plan on camping at all going east or going west (those two trips will be seperated by something like 4 months) |
| 05:05:40 | captain_proton | haha @ microsoft's sourceforge lookalike |
| 05:05:48 | kergoth | yawns |
| 05:26:34 | DevGirl[out] | I want to make music (or better, remix it) but i need an application... someone know one I can use? |
| 05:29:33 | Xentac | scanline: you there? |
| 05:29:55 | Xentac | DevGirl[out]: not off the top of my head... no |
| 05:30:06 | DevGirl[out] | oh :( |
| 05:30:35 | DevGirl[out] | think I'll have to find it myself tomorrow |
| 05:30:52 | Xentac | hmms... it looks like it's a little difficult to get leg shields for my bike... |
| 05:51:37 | Xentac | is away: sleeping |
| 07:26:21 | DevGirl[out] | anyone awake? |
| 07:27:17 | kergoth | no :) |
| 07:27:28 | scanline | :) |
| 07:52:28 | DevGirl[out] | and now? anyone awake? ^^ |
| 07:52:54 | kergoth | no :) |
| 07:57:56 | lalo[out] | blackjacks kergoth |
| 07:58:06 | kergoth | explodes |
| 08:06:50 | fragglet | yay |
| 08:19:55 | captain_proton | scanline: you have any books with stuff on PCI and/or IDE? |
| 08:20:28 | scanline | captain_proton: no books. IDE docs are easy to find on the 'net, haven't looked for PCI |
| 08:21:03 | captain_proton | thats what i figgered, but worth a shot |
| 08:21:27 | kergoth | the pci specs are expensive |
| 08:21:28 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:21:49 | captain_proton | will look in the engineering library |
| 08:22:41 | captain_proton | bedtime |
| 10:37:08 | file[bah] | bah |
| 12:10:20 | scanline | hi carpman |
| 12:10:26 | scanline | oh my it's late... err, early... |
| 12:10:44 | carpman | hehe, morning scanline |
| 12:10:50 | scanline | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.22030.png |
| 12:11:12 | scanline | It still needs tweaking so it Doesn't Suck.. but freetype works on the zaurus |
| 12:12:45 | scanline | chugs some mountain dew and tries to do homework |
| 12:13:07 | carpman | sweet! |
| 12:13:19 | carpman | is it slow? |
| 12:13:29 | scanline | no noticeable speed difference from the BDF rendering |
| 12:13:45 | scanline | The only problems right now are some segfaults, and tweaking the fonts so they look good |
| 12:14:43 | carpman | w00t. Suck it Opie :) |
| 12:14:48 | scanline | This might even be faster than the BDF fonts on the zaurus... I wrote an accelerated blitter for alpha blended fonts, and there was no accelerated blitter for the BDF engine |
| 12:14:56 | scanline | Freetype rocks :) |
| 12:15:30 | scanline | unfortunately the openoffice and ghostscript font's don't rock that much... |
| 12:15:50 | scanline | the MS fonts look a lot better, but the only way we could legally use them is with a post-install script that wgets and extracts them |
| 12:15:53 | scanline | and that would suck too |
| 12:16:11 | carpman | hmmm |
| 12:16:40 | scanline | so.. after I do some homework and study I'll see what I can do about making the openoffice and ghostscript fonts look decent at the sizes we'll be using.. might just be a matter of removing fonts that suck and tweaking the hinting flags |
| 12:17:13 | scanline | Of course anyone who knows what they're doing can rm -Rf /usr/share/fonts/* and drop their own fonts in there :) |
| 12:17:25 | carpman | yeah |
| 12:21:01 | scanline | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.12373.png <-- crufty stuff... some letters are a couple pixels taller than the rest |
| 12:21:21 | scanline | I think it's the font's fault, but it may be a bug in freetype |
| 13:00:29 | carpman | hmm... how do pgDup and widget templates work? |
| 13:00:56 | scanline | When you load a widget template, that handle is for the template itself |
| 13:01:17 | scanline | pgDup instantiates that template by creating all the per-instance objects, and it returns the handle to the root object |
| 13:02:17 | carpman | ah, ok. |
| 13:02:33 | carpman | is working on pg-player |
| 13:02:38 | scanline | oooh |
| 13:02:58 | scanline | I still need to read through res_c and the new pgl code to understand it enough to make the zaurus packages use it :) |
| 13:03:59 | carpman | template = pgLoadWidgetTemplate(pgFromResource(resource, "template")); |
| 13:04:00 | carpman | rootObj = pgDup(template); |
| 13:04:04 | carpman | thats so nice... :) |
| 13:04:16 | scanline | you could even feed the output of pgDup right into pgAttachWidget |
| 13:05:09 | scanline | since pgDup creates a whole tree of widgets you'll want to use pgEnterContext/pgLeaveContext to clean up after it. pgDelete will trash the widget template itself and all the associated global data |
| 13:05:37 | scanline | the template itself handles memory allocation almost exactly like themes |
| 13:14:20 | carpman | hmmm |
| 13:14:22 | carpman | "*** PicoGUI ERROR (FILEFMT) : Bad CRC-32 checksum in widget template" |
| 13:14:35 | scanline | I told you it didn't work yet :) |
| 13:14:47 | carpman | byte order? |
| 13:15:03 | scanline | I haven't looked into it yet, so I have no idea what the problem is.. could be in cli_python, could be in pgserver |
| 13:15:23 | fragglet | pg-player? |
| 13:15:38 | carpman | fragglet: ogg/mp3/whatever player |
| 13:15:51 | scanline | carpman: what's it based on? mplayer, gstreamer, xine? |
| 13:15:53 | fragglet | nice |
| 13:16:01 | carpman | scanline: writing it from scratch |
| 13:16:08 | scanline | oh |
| 13:16:19 | carpman | I want to get some expierence playing with audio streams |
| 13:16:23 | scanline | ok |
| 13:16:41 | carpman | libvorbis is actually dirt simple |
| 13:17:00 | scanline | carpman: you might want to look into something like LADSPA or gstreamer just for compatibility with other audio software though |
| 13:18:20 | carpman | oh wow, gstreamer is cool |
| 13:18:26 | carpman | "The code is very alpha and is prone to eating small mammals, so don't use it near your cat." |
| 13:18:48 | scanline | carpman: I saw captain_proton using gstreamer, and I've read it's design docs.. looks like a great thing to base a media player on :) |
| 13:19:01 | scanline | hehe |
| 13:20:22 | scanline | hmm.. how do you convert ints to strings in java? |
| 13:23:17 | Xentac | is back (gone 07:31:41) |
| 13:23:25 | scanline | I'm going to get a quick bite to eat.. brb |
| 13:23:35 | carpman | java.lib.standard.long.path.name.here.conversions.intiger.no.wait.ascii.to.intiger() |
| 13:23:38 | Xentac | scanline: .toString() |
| 13:24:53 | carpman | morning Xentac |
| 13:25:38 | Xentac | morning |
| 13:28:32 | Xentac | what the hell....? my main email account got 11 emails overnight... that doesn't happen unless I'm working... during the day... |
| 13:29:15 | carpman | Xentac: oh, you didn't know? It was send Xentac e-mails night last night. |
| 13:29:49 | Xentac | no... it was send Xentac viruses night last night. |
| 13:38:55 | carpman | %b is binary, right? |
| 13:39:09 | carpman | %d is decimal |
| 13:39:11 | carpman | %x is hex |
| 13:39:13 | Xentac | hmmm... |
| 13:39:29 | Xentac | that's a good question... |
| 13:39:35 | Xentac | actually... I don't believe there's binary |
| 13:39:41 | Xentac | you have to do your own conversion... |
| 13:40:05 | Xentac | I suggest converting to octal or hex and then converting those to binary sets (of 4 or 8) |
| 13:40:22 | carpman | bah, more work |
| 13:41:13 | scanline | back |
| 13:41:27 | scanline | carpman: yeah, no binary AFAIK.. there might be a GNU extension |
| 13:41:42 | Xentac | scanline: hey... did you ever get that motorcycle catalogue? |
| 13:41:49 | scanline | nyet |
| 13:42:32 | Xentac | notes it's hard to find accessories specifically for his bike on the internet... he finds himself looking at all these different pictures and trying to picture them put all together ;o) |
| 13:42:45 | scanline | for (i=8;i;i--,c<<=1) printf("%c", ((c&0x80)!=0)+'0'); |
| 13:43:01 | carpman | scanline: whatever python put into this wt header, its quite wrong. |
| 13:43:13 | scanline | carpman: doh |
| 13:43:36 | carpman | justs takes out the crc32 for a munite |
| 13:43:40 | carpman | err, minute |
| 13:43:58 | scanline | carpman: IIRC if you set the length field to 0 it skips the length and CRC validation |
| 13:44:03 | scanline | in pgserver |
| 13:45:42 | carpman | hmm... "*** PicoGUI ERROR (FILEFMT) : Widget template length mismatch" |
| 13:46:09 | scanline | u32 file_len; /* Expected file length, or 0 to disable checking length and checksum */ |
| 13:46:10 | carpman | there is some major byte order wonkyness going on here, methinks |
| 13:46:27 | scanline | well, that's what the spec says.. if it's really set to zero that's a pgserver bug |
| 13:46:52 | scanline | are you checking the file against the wt format spec with a hex editor? |
| 13:47:56 | carpman | wait |
| 13:48:10 | carpman | cli_python is using zlib's crc32 |
| 13:48:18 | scanline | yes |
| 13:48:21 | carpman | it was never set to 0 |
| 13:48:26 | scanline | so is pgserver :) |
| 13:48:29 | carpman | oh |
| 13:48:30 | carpman | ok |
| 13:49:17 | scanline | I'd like to move the theme format over to zlib's crc32 also, it's much better than the current method.. but that would have to break compatibility |
| 13:50:04 | scanline | It's more important that wt's be disableable in WTs, since if you had a CRC'ed WT inside a theme you'd be CRCing it twice |
| 13:51:32 | carpman | how do you set hex mode in emacs? |
| 13:51:45 | scanline | M-x hexl-mode |
| 13:53:14 | carpman | *** PicoGUI ERROR (FILEFMT) : Bad CRC-32 checksum in widget template |
| 13:53:19 | carpman | but that field is 0 |
| 13:54:03 | scanline | m... set a breakpoint at wt_load in pgserver and make sure that code's right |
| 13:54:06 | fragglet | PicoBot: spank! |
| 13:54:06 | PicoBot | kilospanks |
| 13:54:09 | scanline | the wt code in pgserver is really simple |
| 13:54:31 | scanline | carpman: theme/wt.c is 225 lines, and that's all the WT code except for the crc32 yanked from zlib |
| 13:55:17 | carpman | yeah, I'm looking at theme/wt.c now |
| 13:55:32 | carpman | For some reason, the magic is correct, but everything else is wrong. |
| 13:55:59 | scanline | is template_len correct? |
| 13:56:25 | carpman | no |
| 13:56:41 | carpman | err.. wait |
| 13:57:03 | carpman | file_len is wrong... |
| 13:57:42 | carpman | template_len is f0 |
| 13:58:09 | carpman | file size is 240, so thats right. |
| 13:58:23 | scanline | hm.. there's not much room for pgserver to screw up on getting wt_load the file size :) |
| 13:58:37 | scanline | wt_load is called by rqh_mktemplate, which is pretty simple: |
| 13:58:41 | scanline | handle h; |
| 13:58:41 | scanline | g_error e; |
| 13:58:41 | scanline | |
| 13:58:41 | scanline | e = wt_load(&h,owner,data,req->size); |
| 13:58:41 | scanline | errorcheck; |
| 13:58:44 | scanline | *ret = h; |
| 13:58:46 | scanline | return success; |
| 13:58:55 | fragglet | g_error? |
| 13:58:57 | carpman | well, there isint much room to screw up reading the header either, but it is. |
| 13:59:09 | scanline | fragglet: pgserver's pseudo-exception-handling type |
| 13:59:15 | fragglet | hmm |
| 13:59:49 | scanline | carpman: :) |
| 14:00:11 | carpman | ALMOST wants to say its a memory corruption, but cant see where that would happen. |
| 14:00:22 | scanline | carpman: I'd help you out more after I finish this homework |
| 14:00:29 | carpman | hehe, ok |
| 14:00:48 | scanline | carpman: but don't let that stop you debugging it yourself ;) |
| 14:01:09 | scanline | carpman: if you want to see the data going between cli_c and pgserver, there's always traceproxy |
| 14:01:33 | scanline | it will give you a hex dump of the packet containing the WT |
| 14:13:25 | scanline | traceproxy is really a kludge.. I should implement a trace function like that in pgserver when I redo the network layer |
| 14:22:33 | carpman | well, the probem is on the cli_c side |
| 14:22:52 | carpman | where the hell is this coming from... |
| 14:23:09 | carpman | (gdb) x/x 0x4002a000 |
| 14:23:09 | carpman | 0x4002a000: 0x74774750 |
| 14:23:09 | carpman | (gdb) x/x 0x4002a001 |
| 14:23:09 | carpman | 0x4002a001: 0x00747747 |
| 14:23:10 | carpman | (gdb) x/x 0x4002a004 |
| 14:23:10 | carpman | 0x4002a004: 0xec000000 |
| 14:23:33 | scanline | carpman: maybe the pointer returned by pgres is getting freed? |
| 14:23:42 | scanline | carpman: try valgrind on the client app |
| 14:24:08 | carpman | emerges valgrind |
| 14:24:33 | carpman | something is dumping into that pointer because there is nothing at that place when I look in the hex editor. |
| 14:24:46 | carpman | its 00 for 10 bytes past the magic |
| 14:24:56 | scanline | valgrind is awesome, I'm sure it will find the problem :) |
| 14:25:48 | carpman | oh my |
| 14:26:03 | scanline | carpman: do you know about valgrind's architecture? |
| 14:26:30 | carpman | no, but I must say it's quite effective |
| 14:27:27 | scanline | carpman: It's actually a dynamic x86 code translator and interpreter that includes instrumentation for tracking memory usage and such :) |
| 14:27:33 | scanline | really cool |
| 14:27:55 | scanline | carpman: read the design document on it some time, you'll be amazed at the weird tricks it goes through |
| 14:30:17 | scanline | brb |
| 14:37:35 | scanline | back |
| 14:42:03 | carpman | hmmm |
| 14:42:10 | carpman | I think I found the problem |
| 14:42:37 | carpman | there is some funky stuff going on in my resource list code in res_c |
| 14:42:46 | carpman | realloc gone mad |
| 14:43:03 | scanline | might suggest debugging the WT code using pgFromFile just to isolate the bugs :) |
| 14:44:36 | carpman | the CRC problem isint wts fault |
| 14:44:50 | carpman | its a memory corruption in res_c |
| 14:44:52 | scanline | maybe |
| 14:45:25 | scanline | I don't doubt that there's a problem on client side, but I'm also warning you that the server-side code probably doesn't fully work |
| 14:46:10 | carpman | hehe |
| 14:46:13 | carpman | your right |
| 14:46:25 | carpman | no messages from valgrind, and it still chokes. |
| 14:46:47 | scanline | :) |
| 14:46:59 | scanline | and such is the nature of my completely untested code (when I don't get lucky) |
| 14:47:09 | scanline | "It compiles, commit it!" |
| 14:47:57 | scanline | hehe... microsoft is slashdotted |
| 14:48:08 | scanline | http://www.gotdotnet.com returns an "unspecified error" |
| 14:48:27 | victorvdl | You sure that isn't just IIS? :-) |
| 14:48:35 | carpman | "Syscall param socketcall.send(msg) contains uninitialised or unaddressable byte(s)" |
| 14:48:38 | scanline | victorvdl: both :) |
| 14:48:46 | carpman | getting alot of those |
| 14:48:57 | scanline | carpman: I've seen that in pgserver too.. not sure what it is, maybe a libc bug? |
| 14:49:05 | Xentac | woah... there's a victoria texas... |
| 14:49:08 | scanline | or maybe it's just something to ignore |
| 14:49:23 | carpman | Xentac: there is a West, Texas and an East Texas too |
| 14:49:34 | carpman | Sunrise, sunset as well |
| 14:49:36 | Xentac | yeah... but there's a Victoria, BC (where I live) |
| 14:49:45 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 14:49:49 | Xentac | goes to work now. |
| 14:49:58 | Xentac | ta ta |
| 14:50:03 | scanline | have fun |
| 14:50:04 | carpman | when they named texas towns, they pulled out a dictionary and went down the list until they ran out of dictionary |
| 14:50:07 | Xentac | is away: working |
| 14:50:07 | carpman | bye Xentac |
| 14:51:32 | victorvdl | How does one get PG to suspend on Zaurus? Or does one? |
| 14:51:58 | scanline | victorvdl: press cancel twice rapidly |
| 14:52:24 | carpman | oh my |
| 14:52:50 | carpman | that reminds me of so many quotes on bash.org |
| 14:53:25 | scanline | hehe |
| 14:56:47 | prpplague | scanline: i like to tell newbies to fix a problem by #cd / ; rm -rf * |
| 14:57:21 | scanline | >:) |
| 14:58:47 | hikke | :( |
| 15:00:42 | carpman | lol @ #39379 |
| 15:01:57 | scanline | hehehe |
| 15:05:13 | scanline | hi kergoth |
| 15:05:40 | kergoth | hey scanline, how goes it |
| 15:05:57 | scanline | not bad.... |
| 15:08:53 | merlin262 | home good |
| 15:08:55 | merlin262 | school bad |
| 15:09:21 | scanline | http://bash.org/?37519 |
| 15:10:27 | merlin262 | lol |
| 15:10:32 | merlin262 | pokes carpman |
| 15:10:37 | merlin262 | Skipping class is fun! |
| 15:10:38 | merlin262 | =D |
| 15:10:47 | carpman | hi merlin262 :) |
| 15:11:19 | merlin262 | i couldn't bring myself to get up this morning |
| 15:11:34 | merlin262 | kept thinking 'i dont wanna go!11111' |
| 15:11:57 | kergoth | merlin262: i think that every day |
| 15:12:17 | merlin262 | i'm having an office space moment. =D |
| 15:12:30 | kergoth | looks around for lumburgh |
| 15:12:40 | scanline | What if we're still doing this when we're 50? |
| 15:12:47 | scanline | It would be nice to have that kind of job security |
| 15:13:01 | kergoth | hah |
| 15:13:05 | merlin262 | roflol |
| 15:21:43 | gonkulator{work} | has returned |
| 15:21:46 | gonkulator{work} | is away: I'm busy |
| 15:21:47 | gonkulator{work} | is back (gone 00:00:01) |
| 15:25:34 | gonkulator{work} | is installing a trance composing program on his iBook |
| 15:28:51 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: seen carpman |
| 15:28:51 | PicoBot | carpman was last seen on #picogui 18 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: hi merlin262 :) [Tue Oct 15 09:10:47 2002] |
| 15:28:54 | scanline | is away: standing in the wet room |
| 15:28:59 | gonkulator{work} | hi merlin262 :) |
| 15:29:00 | gonkulator{work} | later scanline |
| 15:29:09 | scanline | gonkulator{work}: I'll be back soon |
| 15:29:15 | merlin262 | lol |
| 15:30:15 | gonkulator{work} | merlin262: whats so funny? |
| 15:30:39 | merlin262 | scanline's away msg |
| 15:30:47 | merlin262 | i hate funes |
| 15:31:55 | gonkulator{work} | whats a funes? |
| 15:32:53 | merlin262 | blehhh s/funes/fones/phones/ |
| 15:33:38 | gonkulator{work} | oh, ok |
| 15:34:28 | merlin262 | trance, eh? |
| 15:34:45 | gonkulator{work} | yeah |
| 15:34:54 | gonkulator{work} | I _could_ do house on it, but that would be just wrong |
| 15:37:06 | merlin262 | loves bash.ogr |
| 15:40:08 | gonkulator{work} | whats that? |
| 15:40:15 | merlin262 | bash.org |
| 15:40:20 | merlin262 | http://www.bash.org |
| 15:42:30 | gonkulator{work} | oh |
| 15:42:37 | gonkulator{work} | is installing Reason |
| 15:42:50 | gonkulator{work} | do a google search for propeller heads reason |
| 15:42:53 | merlin262 | are you saying something gonkulator{work}? |
| 15:43:13 | gonkulator{work} | merlin262: always |
| 15:43:32 | gonkulator{work} | Lain is now known as darth_balls |
| 15:43:49 | darth_balls | =P |
| 15:43:51 | merlin262 | lol |
| 15:43:59 | darth_balls | gonkulator{work}: good morning |
| 15:44:01 | gonkulator{work} | is good at that one :) |
| 15:44:04 | gonkulator{work} | morning darth_balls |
| 15:44:09 | gonkulator{work} | how did it go last night? |
| 15:44:25 | darth_balls | what go? |
| 15:45:39 | gonkulator{work} | your re-install of RedHat |
| 15:45:50 | darth_balls | went fine, didn't fix anything, but it went fine |
| 15:46:07 | darth_balls | still have can't load windoze from grub |
| 15:46:28 | darth_balls | wants to strangle bill gates |
| 15:46:35 | darth_balls | but right now it's time for class |
| 15:46:39 | darth_balls | so I'll TTYL |
| 15:47:59 | gonkulator{work} | later d_b{class} |
| 15:48:00 | carpman | back |
| 15:48:03 | gonkulator{work} | hi carpman |
| 15:48:04 | carpman | hi gonkulator{work} |
| 15:48:24 | merlin262 | off to work. |
| 15:48:25 | merlin262 | =( |
| 15:48:50 | gonkulator{work} | later merlin-work |
| 15:49:09 | gonkulator{work} | carpman: I am so excited, I am going to start learning how to compose Techno tonight |
| 15:49:19 | carpman | hehe |
| 15:49:28 | gonkulator{work} | I have this kick ass software |
| 15:49:31 | gonkulator{work} | ever heard of acid? |
| 15:49:36 | gonkulator{work} | this is better than acid |
| 15:49:36 | carpman | yes |
| 15:49:42 | gonkulator{work} | this is called Reason |
| 15:51:02 | gonkulator{work} | it kicks... |
| 15:51:14 | gonkulator{work} | I hope that everyone likes what I compose |
| 15:56:10 | scanline | is back (gone 00:27:16) |
| 15:56:51 | gonkulator{work} | wb scanline |
| 15:56:58 | scanline | thankye |
| 15:58:46 | gonkulator{work} | scanline: would you like a nifty cool program for techno composing? |
| 15:59:01 | gonkulator{work} | in other words, can I take up about a gigabyte on your RAID? |
| 15:59:09 | scanline | a gigabyte? |
| 15:59:11 | scanline | is it open source? |
| 16:00:12 | gonkulator{work} | says damn and moves along |
| 16:01:00 | gonkulator{work} | scanline: it isn't open source |
| 16:01:14 | gonkulator{work} | so I guess it could be considered warez... |
| 16:01:30 | gonkulator{work} | accepts the no answer and tries to figure out a different way to get it to carpman |
| 16:01:33 | scanline | what OS does it run under, windows only? |
| 16:01:39 | gonkulator{work} | OS 9 and OS X |
| 16:01:45 | scanline | gonkulator{work}: I didn't say no, I was just asking |
| 16:01:50 | gonkulator{work} | oh |
| 16:01:53 | carpman | uh |
| 16:02:00 | carpman | oh, was drooling over the brochure. |
| 16:02:04 | scanline | I don't have a shred of MacOS on me, so I couldn't run it |
| 16:02:25 | gonkulator{work} | gamma drive :) |
| 16:02:39 | scanline | gonkulator{work}: or instead of stealing commercial software you could write your own :) |
| 16:02:40 | gonkulator{work} | I could put copy of Jaguar ISOs in there too if you like |
| 16:02:45 | scanline | I don't want MacOS |
| 16:02:47 | carpman | well, its sad that Hardscrabble is going out of business |
| 16:02:55 | scanline | carpman: what! |
| 16:02:58 | carpman | BUT, I will get a scsi 3 hardware raid out the deal |
| 16:03:09 | scanline | carpman: you're unemployed?! |
| 16:03:19 | carpman | scanline: oh, yeah. We can't make it to the end of the year, and we cant renegotiate our T1 line contract. |
| 16:03:31 | carpman | well, not YET, but its a certianty before 2003 |
| 16:04:07 | scanline | doh.. any ideas for a new job? |
| 16:04:12 | carpman | one, possibly |
| 16:04:29 | carpman | there is a bigger version of Hardscrabble up in denton, I know the guy who runs it |
| 16:05:27 | scanline | good luck |
| 16:07:17 | gonkulator{work} | scanline: instead of writing software, I could actually get a song or two composed :) |
| 16:07:42 | scanline | gonkulator{work}: yes, but it's illegal :P |
| 16:08:05 | gonkulator{work} | eh... small detail :)\ |
| 16:08:05 | scanline | oh well.. just bugging you... |
| 16:08:11 | gonkulator{work} | I know |
| 16:08:27 | gonkulator{work} | you never were very good at bugging me :) |
| 16:08:49 | scanline | Well, it bugs me when people steal commercial software instead of writing free software |
| 16:11:14 | gonkulator{work} | uh huh |
| 16:49:06 | scanline | is away: Dave... my mind is going... |
| 16:52:15 | gonkulator{work} | is away: thats what happens when you do data entry all day... |
| 17:35:03 | gonkulator | is here again... |
| 17:38:04 | gonkulator | hello |
| 17:38:59 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen Xentac |
| 17:38:59 | PicoBot | Xentac was last seen on #picogui 2 hours, 48 minutes and 52 seconds ago, saying: is away: working [Tue Oct 15 08:50:07 2002] |
| 17:40:14 | gonkulator | is tired |
| 17:40:20 | gonkulator | is in class and bored |
| 17:41:01 | scanline | hmm.... |
| 17:41:26 | scanline | wonders if he should try to stay awake and do some homework, or sleep now and do it when he wakes up |
| 17:41:48 | scanline | votes for... sleep |
| 17:42:00 | scanline | is away: Sleep, that's where I'm a vi king! |
| 17:42:10 | gonkulator | later scanline |
| 17:45:37 | gonkey{iBook} | PicoBot: seen fragglet |
| 17:45:38 | PicoBot | fragglet was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 46 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying: hmm [Tue Oct 15 07:59:15 2002] |
| 17:45:59 | gonkey{iBook} | PicoBot: emulate gonkulator |
| 17:46:00 | PicoBot | I am gonkulator, hear me gonkulate! |
| 17:46:14 | gonkey{iBook} | PicoBot: emulate scanline |
| 17:46:15 | PicoBot | drinks pepsi and writes weird code or grows a beard or cooks some ramen noodles |
| 17:46:35 | gonkey{iBook} | PicoBot: emulate scanline is also takes a "short nap" and returns 12 hours later |
| 17:46:36 | PicoBot | okay, gonkey{iBook}. |
| 17:47:05 | | gonkey{iBook}: what? |
| 17:47:05 | gonkey{iBook} | ibot: emulate scanline |
| 17:47:09 | gonkey{iBook} | hmm... |
| 18:42:42 | carpman{tallest} | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 18:42:42 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 42 seconds ago, saying: is away: Sleep, that's where I'm a vi king! [Tue Oct 15 11:42:00 2002] |
| 18:42:49 | gonkulator | hey carpman{tallest} |
| 18:42:53 | carpman{tallest} | hi gonkulator |
| 18:43:03 | gonkulator | aw nuts... |
| 18:43:10 | gonkulator | class will be over in 2 minutes |
| 18:43:52 | carpman{tallest} | PicoBot: explode file |
| 18:43:53 | PicoBot | carpman{tallest}: excuse me? |
| 18:44:03 | carpman{tallest} | PicoBot: explode file is <action> detonates file. |
| 18:44:04 | PicoBot | OK, carpman{tallest}. |
| 18:44:07 | carpman{tallest} | PicoBot: explode file |
| 18:44:08 | PicoBot | detonates file. |
| 18:44:19 | gonkulator | PicoBot: tsi? |
| 18:44:19 | PicoBot | tucks scanline in |
| 18:44:21 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 18:44:26 | gonkulator | PicoBot: pstb |
| 18:44:26 | PicoBot | gonkulator: i'm not following you... |
| 18:44:26 | carpman{tallest} | PicoBot: tfi? |
| 18:44:27 | PicoBot | carpman{tallest}: i don't know |
| 18:44:46 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 18:44:59 | carpman{tallest} | PicoBot: poke poke poke poke |
| 18:44:59 | PicoBot | starts poking back! |
| 18:45:09 | gonkulator | PicoBot: tfi is <action> tucks file in |
| 18:45:09 | PicoBot | OK, gonkulator. |
| 18:45:56 | gonkulator | PicoBot: class? |
| 18:45:56 | PicoBot | no, screw OOP |
| 18:46:04 | gonkulator | PicoBot: class? |
| 18:46:04 | PicoBot | class is over |
| 18:46:07 | gonkulator | PicoBot: class? |
| 18:46:07 | PicoBot | class is not over yet! back to work! |
| 18:46:11 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 18:46:14 | gonkulator | later carpman{tallest} |
| 18:46:14 | carpman{tallest} | hehe |
| 18:46:16 | carpman{tallest} | bye go |
| 18:46:19 | carpman{tallest} | bye gonkulator |
| 18:46:22 | gonkulator | :) |
| 18:54:14 | gonkulator{work} | and back |
| 18:54:20 | gonkulator{work} | is away: I'm busy |
| 18:54:23 | gonkulator{work} | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 18:57:26 | file | waits |
| 19:01:12 | carpman{tallest} | file: what are you waiting for?!?!?!!? |
| 19:02:37 | file | carpman{tallest}: the mailman |
| 19:02:47 | file | I'm going to strangle him with a CAT5 cable |
| 19:09:48 | carpman{tallest} | haha, awesome! I have mozilla running on sasami, but its displaying on tallest's X server |
| 19:10:01 | file | so? |
| 19:10:28 | file | prods carpman |
| 19:10:43 | carpman{tallest} | that means I can run applications on mach5, and have them display on tallest |
| 19:11:16 | carpman{tallest} | which means I can run mach5 in some other part of the house, and use my 21" monitor SGI built machine as my desktop |
| 19:12:15 | carpman{tallest} | file: BE EXCITED! |
| 19:12:34 | carpman{tallest} | gonkulator{work} is excited, I can allready tell |
| 19:13:25 | file | is VERY excited |
| 19:13:50 | kergoth | yawns |
| 19:13:59 | file | I see the mailman |
| 19:14:09 | carpman{tallest} | YES! It even does 3d! |
| 19:14:24 | carpman{tallest} | likes X just a little bit more now. |
| 19:15:23 | file | no mail for me today |
| 19:15:45 | carpman{tallest} | oh, no 3ed |
| 19:15:47 | carpman{tallest} | err, 3d |
| 19:19:18 | carpman{tallest} | file: would you like to see the cool movie I made on tallest? |
| 19:19:24 | carpman{tallest} | its mpeg 1 |
| 19:19:37 | carpman{tallest} | 783k |
| 19:21:50 | file | sure |
| 19:23:28 | file | not working |
| 19:23:55 | gonkulator{work} | carpman{tallest}: w00t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 19:24:06 | file | Connection failed |
| 19:24:14 | carpman{tallest} | sends to gonkulator{work} |
| 19:25:23 | gonkulator{work} | it is b0rken |
| 19:25:38 | file | told you :p |
| 19:25:47 | carpman{tallest} | grr... just a sec |
| 19:27:37 | file | waits for the movie |
| 19:28:44 | carpman{sasami} | try now |
| 19:28:50 | file | nope |
| 19:28:53 | file | still not working |
| 19:30:44 | carpman{tallest} | http://www.voidptr.org/images/cool.mpeg |
| 19:33:04 | gonkulator{work} | hmm... |
| 19:36:34 | carpman{tallest} | gonkulator{work}: hmm what? |
| 19:36:45 | gonkulator{work} | carpman{tallest}: That WAS cool, no? |
| 19:36:51 | carpman{tallest} | indeed :) |
| 19:36:53 | gonkulator{work} | Testing... |
| 19:36:55 | gonkulator{work} | :) |
| 19:37:09 | gonkulator{work} | starts a huge file transfer |
| 19:37:37 | carpman{tallest} | file: soon I will create trance that will make your head explode. |
| 19:37:53 | carpman{tallest} | I will call my first album, the file detonation project. |
| 19:38:09 | gonkulator{work} | is going to start doing trance as soon as the CD-Key for Reason comes to me |
| 19:38:19 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 19:38:19 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 56 minutes and 19 seconds ago, saying: is away: Sleep, that's where I'm a vi king! [Tue Oct 15 11:42:00 2002] |
| 19:38:33 | gonkulator{work} | carpman{tallest}: I'll upload those bzipped isos to navi now |
| 19:38:36 | carpman{tallest} | k |
| 19:38:46 | carpman{tallest} | how big are they? |
| 19:40:02 | gonkulator{work} | um... |
| 19:40:04 | gonkulator{work} | let me check |
| 19:40:19 | captain_proton | it worked!!!!!! |
| 19:40:53 | gonkulator{work} | 1.2 gig |
| 19:40:59 | gonkulator{work} | captain_proton: what worked? |
| 19:41:00 | carpman{tallest} | blah |
| 19:41:58 | carpman{tallest} | file: narg |
| 19:42:25 | captain_proton | my midsemester project in digital |
| 19:42:26 | gonkulator{work} | carpman{tallest}: and you can install it, but to make it run you need the CD-Key |
| 19:42:33 | gonkulator{work} | captain_proton: congrats |
| 19:42:51 | captain_proton | the only casualty was my will to live |
| 19:43:18 | gonkulator{work} | captain_proton: I'll come up on friday, and see if I can find a new one for you |
| 19:44:35 | captain_proton | ahh, 'tis appreciated |
| 19:45:18 | gonkulator{work} | do you like pool? |
| 19:45:21 | gonkulator{work} | scanline and I do |
| 19:45:40 | captain_proton | indeed i do |
| 19:45:43 | gonkulator{work} | is determined to finally frag scanline at pool |
| 19:47:11 | fragglet | hmm |
| 19:47:16 | carpman{tallest} | gonkulator{work}: you dont frag people in pool |
| 19:47:36 | carpman{tallest} | not unless the pool table is the respawn point for the rocket launcher |
| 19:49:11 | gonkulator{work} | carpman{tallest}: ask Xentac about how scanline and I play |
| 19:49:18 | gonkulator{work} | scanline almost fragged me the last time we played |
| 19:49:26 | gonkulator{work} | fortunately, I managed to dodge the queue ball |
| 19:49:34 | carpman{tallest} | oh my |
| 19:49:39 | captain_proton | thats "cue" |
| 19:49:47 | carpman{tallest} | hehehe |
| 19:50:17 | gonkulator{work} | captain_proton: oh, ok :) |
| 19:50:23 | gonkulator{work} | carpman{tallest}: it can get a bit violent |
| 19:50:24 | carpman{tallest} | file: do you have a test soon? |
| 20:00:10 | file | That was cool, no? |
| 20:00:48 | captain_proton | you know what else is cool? |
| 20:00:53 | captain_proton | absolute zero |
| 20:00:57 | captain_proton | nothing is cooler than absolute zero |
| 20:05:08 | gonkulator{work} | captain_proton: what about absolute zero minus one? |
| 20:06:46 | carpman{tallest} | well, got to go |
| 20:06:48 | carpman{tallest} | bye all |
| 20:40:05 | Keyser[zzz] | "dentyne ice... nothings cooler than ice". I hate those commercials. why must i remember them? |
| 20:44:54 | file | KeyserSoze: because |
| 22:30:07 | gonkulator{work} | hey laodamas |
| 22:30:25 | gonkulator{work} | laodamas: you know why christmas and halloween are the same day for geeks right |
| 22:30:36 | gonkulator{work} | because OCT 31 == DEC 25 |
| 22:31:01 | gonkulator{work} | pokes laodamas |
| 22:33:50 | KeyserSoze | lol! |
| 22:34:05 | gonkulator{work} | KeyserSoze: like it? |
| 22:34:06 | KeyserSoze | that's freaky. |
| 22:34:11 | gonkulator{work} | uh huh ;) |
| 22:34:15 | | que tal, laodamas |
| 22:34:15 | laodamas | hello |
| 22:34:43 | laodamas | bien |
| 22:35:10 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:35:10 | | OK, PicoBot. |
| 22:35:10 | PicoBot | ibot: recurse is also recurse |
| 22:35:20 | | well, recurse is recurse |
| 22:35:20 | gonkulator{work} | ibot: recurse |
| 22:35:31 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: no recurse is ibot: recurse |
| 22:35:32 | PicoBot | OK, gonkulator{work}. |
| 22:35:37 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:35:37 | | i already had it that way, PicoBot. |
| 22:35:37 | PicoBot | ibot: recurse is also recurse |
| 22:35:44 | | recurse is recurse |
| 22:35:44 | gonkulator{work} | ibot: recurse |
| 22:35:51 | | gonkulator{work}: I forgot recurse |
| 22:35:51 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: forget recurse |
| 22:35:51 | PicoBot | gonkulator{work}: I forgot recurse |
| 22:36:10 | | OK, gonkulator{work}. |
| 22:36:10 | gonkulator{work} | ibot: recurse is <reply> PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:36:20 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: recurse is <reply> PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:36:20 | PicoBot | OK, gonkulator{work}. |
| 22:36:22 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:36:23 | PicoBot | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:36:33 | | gonkulator{work}: I forgot recurse |
| 22:36:33 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: forget recurse |
| 22:36:34 | PicoBot | gonkulator{work}: I forgot recurse |
| 22:36:40 | | OK, gonkulator{work}. |
| 22:36:40 | gonkulator{work} | ibot: recurse is <reply> PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:36:50 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: recurse is <reply> ibot: recurse |
| 22:36:50 | PicoBot | OK, gonkulator{work}. |
| 22:36:56 | gonkulator{work} | anyone care to have some fun? |
| 22:38:31 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:38:31 | | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:38:31 | PicoBot | ibot: recurse |
| 22:38:37 | gonkulator{work} | hehehe |
| 22:38:43 | laodamas | PicoBot: curse |
| 22:38:44 | PicoBot | laodamas: what? |
| 22:38:48 | laodamas | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:38:48 | | PicoBot: recurse |
| 22:38:48 | PicoBot | ibot: recurse |
| 22:38:53 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 22:39:05 | gonkulator{work} | now, if PicoBot could see ibot, it would be perfect |
| 22:39:25 | | keysersoze: bugger all, i dunno |
| 22:39:25 | KeyserSoze | ibot: dude? |
| 22:39:30 | | keysersoze: i don't know |
| 22:39:30 | KeyserSoze | ibot: sweet? |
| 22:39:35 | gonkulator{work} | PicoBot: dude? |
| 22:39:35 | PicoBot | duuuuude! |
| 22:39:38 | KeyserSoze | damn bots are forgetfule. |
| 22:39:42 | KeyserSoze | PicoBot: sweet? |
| 22:39:43 | PicoBot | bugger all, i dunno, keysersoze |
| 22:40:09 | KeyserSoze | i tried to train them to reply to each other infintely "dude" and "sweet", but ran in to the same problem you did. |
| 22:40:44 | gonkulator{work} | KeyserSoze: yeah, thats more clever than my "recurse" |
| 22:40:59 | laodamas | "I was compiling this SMB client ... on the PC... and it was like BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP. And then... like... half of my code was gone. And I was like... nnngh? It devoured... my code. It was really good code. And then I had to write it again and I had to do it fast so it wasn't as good. It's kind of... .... a bummer. I'm Rob Malda and I crash websites by posting them to Slashdot." |
| 22:42:23 | KeyserSoze | laodamas: that sounds like an apple commercial, almost. |
| 22:42:34 | laodamas | parody |
| 22:42:45 | | picobot was last seen on #picogui 3 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying: duuuuude! [Tue Oct 15 16:39:35 2002] |
| 22:42:45 | laodamas | PicoBot: seen picobot? |
| 22:42:46 | PicoBot | I haven't seen 'picobot', laodamas |
| 22:42:49 | gonkulator{work} | laodamas: ROFLMAO |
| 22:43:51 | gonkulator{work} | laodamas: you should publish that :) |
| 22:44:04 | gonkulator{work} | laodamas: have you seen Taco's switch ad yet? |
| 22:44:13 | gonkulator{work} | laodamas: how did you know Taco was one of the "switchers" |
| 22:44:14 | laodamas | gonkulator{work}: Unfourtantly its not mine. |
| 22:44:23 | gonkulator{work} | slashdot post? |
| 22:44:39 | laodamas | Ai post |
| 22:44:44 | gonkulator{work} | ah, clever |
| 22:44:46 | laodamas | AI = appleInsider |
| 22:44:57 | gonkulator{work} | poor Eilen |
| 22:45:02 | gonkulator{work} | if that is how you spell her name |
| 22:45:43 | KeyserSoze | yeah, it'd suck to have a name spelled like that. |
| 22:45:54 | laodamas | We need to make a Clippy switch ad! |
| 22:45:55 | KeyserSoze | hopefully, for her sake, it's "eyelean" |
| 22:46:16 | gonkulator{work} | thats what happens when one leg is shorter than the other |
| 22:47:55 | d_b{ibook} | hi everyone |
| 22:47:59 | file[laptop] | moves to the living room |
| 22:48:04 | laodamas | I am looking for a development board with good GCC support. Any suggestions? |
| 22:48:17 | gonkulator{work} | hugs d_b{ibook} |
| 22:48:43 | gonkulator{work} | d_b{ibook}: you know why programmers can't tell the difference between christmas and halloween? |
| 22:48:44 | d_b{ibook} | hugs gonkulator{work} |
| 22:48:47 | file[laptop] | well - my retry rate is up, but I'm still here |
| 22:48:53 | d_b{ibook} | gonkulator{work}: why? |
| 22:48:57 | gonkulator{work} | d_b{ibook}: cause OCT 31 == DEC 25 |
| 22:48:59 | KeyserSoze | ooh, i know! |
| 22:49:04 | KeyserSoze | doh, too slow. |
| 22:49:06 | KeyserSoze | :( |
| 22:49:11 | d_b{ibook} | wha? |
| 22:49:19 | d_b{ibook} | doesn't get it |
| 22:49:20 | gonkulator{work} | KeyserSoze: I'll let you tell sophie :) |
| 22:49:27 | gonkulator{work} | d_b{ibook}: think octal and decimal |
| 22:49:45 | file[laptop] | gonkulator{work}: how goes it? |
| 22:49:50 | gonkulator{work} | file[laptop]: busy |
| 22:49:52 | d_b{ibook} | wishes he understood |
| 22:49:56 | gonkulator{work} | must finish work before going home |
| 22:49:59 | file[laptop] | gonkulator{work}: that sucks |
| 22:50:06 | d_b{ibook} | I guess that's why I'm still having trouble w/ the bootloader ^_^ |
| 22:50:10 | gonkulator{work} | d_b{ibook}: you know about hexidecimal and octal and binary and stuff |
| 22:50:12 | KeyserSoze | hmmm... sophie? didn't i used to know a chick named sophie? she went to work this morning, and i've never seen her since, even though it's almost 7:00pm. |
| 22:50:23 | d_b{ibook} | gonkulator{work}: yeah, but I don't know it well enough to get a joke like that |
| 22:50:23 | gonkulator{work} | KeyserSoze: Gina then |
| 22:50:34 | KeyserSoze | looks up sophie's number, to give her a ring, and see how she's been. |
| 22:50:35 | gonkulator{work} | convert 31 octal to decimal |
| 22:50:49 | d_b{ibook} | *but* I really liked the one that my bro told me last year |
| 22:50:53 | d_b{ibook} | rm -rf /bin/laden |
| 22:50:56 | d_b{ibook} | lol |
| 22:51:13 | file[laptop] | did you know that the phobia of long words is 31 letters long? |
| 22:54:22 | d_b{ibook} | yes, I think I did |
| 22:54:27 | d_b{ibook} | but I'm not sure |
| 22:54:38 | d_b{ibook} | is gonna go shower after his afternoon in the woods |
| 22:54:45 | d_b{ibook} | bbl |
| 22:55:00 | gonkulator{work} | ibot: message for scanline: programmers can't tell the difference between Christmas and Halloween because OCT 31 == DEC 25 |
| 22:55:12 | gonkulator{work} | ibot: message for carpman: programmers can't tell the difference between Christmas and Halloween because OCT 31 == DEC 25 |
| 22:55:21 | gonkulator{work} | ibot: message for Xentac: programmers can't tell the difference between Christmas and Halloween because OCT 31 == DEC 25 |
| 22:55:24 | file[laptop] | is watching Clockstoppers |
| 22:55:29 | file[laptop] | and I saw an iBook! |
| 22:55:44 | gonkulator{work} | ibot: message for merlin262: programmers can't tell the difference between Christmas and Halloween because OCT 31 == DEC 25 |
| 22:55:58 | file[laptop] | LOL |
| 22:56:03 | file[laptop] | that's good, that's good |
| 22:57:08 | file[laptop] | hey - I saw another iBook |
| 22:57:55 | laodamas | gonkulator{work}: insert the foolowing into your 10.2 BootX file at 0h129BA |
| 22:58:06 | gonkulator{work} | laodamas: why... ? |
| 22:58:46 | laodamas | gonkulator{work}: Custom boot image. Give me a moment... |
| 23:01:22 | laodamas | "65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:22 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 00 FF FF 65 |
| 23:01:22 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 00 FF 00 65 65 |
| 23:01:22 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:22 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:24 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:26 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:28 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 00 00 FF 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:30 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 DD 00 00 65 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:32 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:34 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 00 BB 00 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:36 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:38 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:40 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 65 |
| 23:01:41 | gonkulator{work} | aaaak |
| 23:01:42 | laodamas | 65 65 65 65 65 BB BB BB 65 65 65 88 88 88 77 77 |
| 23:01:42 | gonkulator{work} | stop flooding |
| 23:01:44 | laodamas | 77 55 55 55 44 44 44 22 22 22 65 65 65 00 00 00" |
| 23:01:51 | laodamas | sorry |
| 23:02:46 | gonkulator{work} | salright |
| 23:02:50 | gonkulator{work} | just don't do it again :) |
| 23:03:42 | gonkulator{work} | and it is quittin time |
| 23:03:47 | gonkulator{work} | later everyone |
| 23:03:53 | gonkulator{work} | is away: quittin time for today |
| 23:04:25 | file[laptop] | I need a new watch |
| 23:09:42 | laodamas | is away: masticating |
| 23:13:28 | d_b{ibook} | and back |
| 23:39:12 | merlin-work | it's good to be home |
| 23:39:15 | merlin-work | puts his feet up |
| 23:39:44 | d_b{ibook} | hi merlin262 |
| 23:39:58 | merlin262 | hi d_b{ibook} |
| 23:40:15 | d_b{ibook} | que pasa? |
| 23:40:41 | merlin262 | wonders if his head could hurt any worse. |
| 23:40:52 | merlin262 | gets some extra-industrial-strength-super-tylonol |
| 23:41:16 | file[laptop] | aha - my mother got me a new pair of gloves |
| 23:41:19 | d_b{ibook} | why does your head hut? |
| 23:41:26 | d_b{ibook} | golves? for? |
| 23:41:30 | merlin262 | i dunno, it just does. :( |
| 23:41:30 | d_b{ibook} | *gloves |
| 23:41:35 | d_b{ibook} | =( |
| 23:41:45 | file[laptop] | because... it's getting cold |
| 23:42:11 | d_b{ibook} | oh |
| 23:45:23 | file[laptop] | darn it |
| 23:45:26 | file[laptop] | am I still here? no |
| 23:45:55 | file[laptop] | wow... I am |
| 23:49:13 | d_b{ibook} | w00t!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:49:26 | d_b{ibook} | I fixed my boot loader |
| 23:49:27 | merlin262 | PicoBot: merlin262 |
| 23:49:27 | PicoBot | well, merlin262 is the creator of the Death and SDL version of sasteroids. or has NO FSCKING MERCY!!!!! |
| 23:49:37 | d_b{ibook} | lol |
| 23:49:47 | d_b{ibook} | PicoBot: darth_balls |
| 23:49:48 | PicoBot | well, darth_balls is evan...He is ickysneeze's and scanline's friend |
| 23:49:57 | d_b{ibook} | ^_^ when did that change? |
| 23:50:20 | d_b{ibook} | PicoBot: gonkulator |
| 23:50:21 | PicoBot | i guess gonkulator is almost but not quite exactly the opposite of a cheese pizza |
| 23:50:26 | d_b{ibook} | lol |
| 23:51:00 | file[laptop] | The Net is on LOL |
| 23:51:09 | file[laptop] | gazes |
| 23:51:16 | d_b{ibook} | file[laptop]: lol |
| 23:51:30 | d_b{ibook} | hey, at least it has Sandra Bullock in it |
| 23:51:34 | file[laptop] | yeah |
| 23:51:39 | d_b{ibook} | ^_^ |
| 23:51:42 | file[laptop] | it's good for a laugh |
| 23:51:48 | file[laptop] | espically the window with "UNIX Shell" |
| 23:51:50 | d_b{ibook} | like Hackers |
| 23:52:04 | file[laptop] | Come on everybody, use your best viruses! |
| 23:52:05 | d_b{ibook} | you seen AntiTrust? w/ Rachael Leigh Cook |
| 23:52:13 | file[laptop] | d_b{ibook}: yeah, I taped it off the dish |
| 23:52:20 | file[laptop] | I liked the music |
| 23:52:30 | d_b{ibook} | for AntiTrust? |
| 23:52:35 | file[laptop] | correct |
| 23:52:42 | file[laptop] | has weird tastes though |
| 23:53:04 | d_b{ibook} | I really like that movie |
| 23:53:17 | d_b{ibook} | thinks Rachael Leigh Cook is the sexiest woman alive |
| 23:53:21 | file[laptop] | atleast they used a few proper commands on that... |
| 23:53:38 | file[laptop] | yucky Java though |
| 23:55:04 | file[laptop] | wazzup? |
| 23:55:21 | d_b{ibook} | likes it for Racahel |
| 23:55:24 | d_b{ibook} | *Rachael |
| 23:55:41 | file[laptop] | laughs at the old macintosh chat program |
| 23:55:43 | d_b{ibook} | Josie and the Pussycats is one of my favorite movies ever, even though it's pretty hoky |
| 23:55:50 | file[laptop] | never seen it |
| 23:56:10 | kergoth | d_b{ibook}: i have to agree with you re: rachael leigh cook |
| 23:56:37 | file[laptop] | finally admits he likes her aswell |
| 23:58:14 | darth_balls | w00t! |
| 23:58:22 | merlin262 | PicoBot: file[laptop] |
| 23:58:22 | PicoBot | merlin262: what? |
| 23:58:24 | file[laptop] | cheers |
| 23:58:29 | merlin262 | PicoBot: jimlay_work_away |
| 23:58:29 | darth_balls | not only is Fission running linux, but the bootloader will boot windoze |
| 23:58:29 | PicoBot | merlin262: what? |
| 23:58:44 | file[laptop] | amazing |
| 23:58:48 | merlin262 | PicoBot: jimlay |
| 23:58:49 | PicoBot | merlin262: what? |
| 23:59:02 | merlin262 | PicoBot: ibot |
| 23:59:02 | PicoBot | hmmm... ibot is lame! |
| 23:59:12 | merlin262 | PicoBot: PicoBot |
| 23:59:12 | PicoBot | rumour has it i am nothing more than a DOS-based Microsoft creation from 1989 which crashes every 15 seconds and can't get the simple time right. or http://picogui.org/people/picobot.jpeg |
