| 00:08:34 | merlin262 | woa, nickserv is mean! |
| 00:09:07 | file[laptop] | wb |
| 00:09:13 | merlin262 | wb darth_iBook |
| 00:10:10 | darth_iBook | hi merlin262 |
| 00:10:17 | darth_iBook | stupid connection keeps getting closed |
| 00:10:57 | file[laptop] | reminds me of my NAT software problem |
| 00:11:14 | darth_iBook | dunno why athenairc keeps kicking me |
| 00:11:58 | darth_iBook | thinks he's too tired to do any homework |
| 00:12:03 | darth_iBook | capoeira wore me out today |
| 00:12:11 | file[laptop] | is glad he has no homework |
| 00:12:20 | merlin262 | now, to write another linked list for the 400000000000000000x, or find a c library to handle such things |
| 00:12:22 | merlin262 | such choices |
| 00:15:25 | scanline | Eh.. there are C libraries for such things, but for something as simple as a linked list I see little point to it |
| 00:16:37 | merlin262 | tr00, but I kind've like to have such a c library |
| 00:16:40 | merlin262 | but not glib |
| 00:16:41 | merlin262 | i hate glib |
| 00:25:17 | merlin262 | scanline ever seen the 10 commandments for C programemrs? |
| 00:25:22 | scanline | nope |
| 00:25:28 | merlin262 | http://herd.plethora.net/~seebs/c/10com.html |
| 00:25:33 | file[laptop] | the water... it burns!!! |
| 00:25:33 | merlin262 | it's 1/2 funny 1/2 serious |
| 00:26:05 | scanline | hmm.. wonder if valgrind can substitute for lint :) |
| 00:26:31 | file[laptop] | LOL |
| 00:27:15 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:28:07 | scanline | "radical new blessing of ``prototypes''" |
| 00:28:10 | scanline | wonders how old this is |
| 00:28:44 | merlin262 | it's pretty old |
| 00:30:45 | merlin262 | As demonstrated by the deeds of the Great Worm, a consequence of this commandment is that robust production software should never make use of gets(), for it is truly a tool of the Devil. |
| 00:30:47 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 00:30:56 | scanline | :) |
| 00:31:55 | scanline | hmm.. One True Brace Style |
| 00:32:03 | scanline | Which one was the original K&R style? |
| 00:32:19 | merlin262 | void foo() |
| 00:32:20 | merlin262 | { |
| 00:32:24 | scanline | bah |
| 00:32:24 | merlin262 | if(i == 0) { |
| 00:32:26 | carpman | ``All the world's a '386'' (this latter being a particularly revolting invention of Satan) |
| 00:32:32 | carpman | hehehe |
| 00:32:33 | carpman | is back (gone 05:08:42) |
| 00:32:37 | scanline | hi carpman |
| 00:32:41 | carpman | hey scanline |
| 00:33:00 | carpman | merlin262: I dont care what K&R used, I use if(i==0){ |
| 00:33:33 | carpman | I've done it that way for so long, its harder for me to read/write it the other way |
| 00:33:34 | scanline | if (!i) { |
| 00:33:38 | merlin262 | I believe K&R say that function calls should have braces on a new line, with if/for/etc.. on the same line |
| 00:33:42 | merlin262 | see above ^^^ |
| 00:34:35 | scanline | I usually adapt to whatever style the author used when I'm contributing to someone else's project, but I have trouble writing in any but my own style for my projects |
| 00:34:46 | merlin262 | I always use K&R formatting |
| 00:34:54 | merlin262 | scanline: yours in pgserver is closest to K&R |
| 00:35:34 | scanline | I do functions and spacing between operators differently though |
| 00:36:11 | scanline | I also tend to utilize (abuse?) the fact that NULL==0 and there's an implicit !=0 in conditions |
| 00:36:35 | scanline | for (p=list;p;p=p->next) { |
| 00:36:36 | scanline | :) |
| 00:36:45 | carpman | that is not abuse, for null shall always be 0 |
| 00:37:04 | scanline | merlin262: have you read my video driver code yet? there's some funky stuff in there |
| 00:37:04 | carpman | And I'll lynch the first person to say it should be otherwise. |
| 00:37:18 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:37:19 | merlin262 | yea, I know scanline |
| 00:37:26 | merlin262 | punches scanline for his headache. |
| 00:37:29 | scanline | haha |
| 00:37:31 | carpman | lol |
| 00:37:43 | merlin262 | scanline: if you want a lint, use splint |
| 00:37:57 | merlin262 | http://lclint.cs.virginia.edu/ |
| 00:38:04 | scanline | Some things are hard to understand no matter how they're formatted |
| 00:38:06 | merlin262 | it's very useful, and will pick up bugs you didn't know existed |
| 00:38:26 | scanline | apt-gets it |
| 00:38:39 | scanline | *d = (((c>>16) + atab[or | (or >> 5)] ) << 8) & 0xF800 | \ |
| 00:38:40 | scanline | (((c>>8) + atab[og | (og >> 6)] ) << 3) & 0x07E0 | \ |
| 00:38:40 | scanline | (( c + atab[ob | (ob >> 5)] ) >> 3) & 0x001F; \ |
| 00:38:54 | scanline | yay for alpha blending one-liners |
| 00:39:13 | scanline | or was it my loop style that gave you a headache? |
| 00:39:19 | scanline | for (;h;h--,src+=(srcbit->pitch>>1),dst+=(FB_BPL>>1)) |
| 00:39:19 | scanline | __memcpy(dst,src,w<<1); |
| 00:40:10 | scanline | ooh, this is a nice one: |
| 00:40:14 | scanline | for (iw=char_pitch,d=dline,xpix=0;iw;iw--) |
| 00:40:14 | scanline | for (bit=8,ch=*(chardat++);bit;bit--,ch=ch<<1,(u8*)d+=FB_BPL,xpix++) { |
| 00:40:15 | scanline | if (ch&0x80 && xpix>=xmin && xpix<xmax) |
| 00:40:15 | scanline | *d = c; |
| 00:40:15 | scanline | } |
| 00:40:27 | merlin262 | lol |
| 00:40:29 | carpman | AHHHH!!! My BRAIN!!! |
| 00:40:41 | merlin262 | just for fun |
| 00:40:46 | merlin262 | runs splint on x11 video driver |
| 00:41:12 | scanline | runs it on linear16 |
| 00:41:58 | carpman | scanline: FYI: picogui.org/download/zelda.png has NO XML incompatible charaters in it. |
| 00:42:18 | carpman | which totaly fecks me up, because I used it to test AoF's XML-RPC system. :) |
| 00:42:35 | scanline | s/png/jpeg/ ? |
| 00:42:41 | carpman | err, yeah |
| 00:42:41 | scanline | hehehe |
| 00:43:08 | carpman | it uploads and downloads fine, but try any other image, and you get a protocol error :P |
| 00:43:17 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:43:46 | carpman | no I have to put binary-clean-up code in |
| 00:43:49 | scanline | http://picogui.org/scrshots/20021026_lucid.png <-- nice big one that probably has lots of funny characters |
| 00:43:54 | carpman | s/no/now |
| 00:45:16 | scanline | merlin262: splint barfs on the GCC extensions in the glibc headers on this system |
| 00:45:35 | merlin262 | yea... |
| 00:45:55 | merlin262 | it doesn't like linux/asm stuff |
| 00:45:56 | merlin262 | :/ |
| 00:46:01 | scanline | tries flawfinder instead |
| 00:47:07 | scanline | bah.. flawfinder only gives sissy warnings |
| 00:47:24 | scanline | "strlen: Does not handle strings that are not \0-terminated (it could cause a |
| 00:47:25 | scanline | crash if unprotected)." |
| 00:49:20 | merlin262 | nxpackage.c:106:6: Test expression for if not boolean, type int: |
| 00:49:20 | merlin262 | feof(readFile->fp) |
| 00:49:25 | merlin262 | Lint is very unforgiving |
| 00:50:12 | scanline | hmm.. especially since C doesn't even have real booleans :P |
| 00:52:07 | merlin262 | I'm almost finished with the core of my package manager blieve it or not |
| 00:52:14 | scanline | cool |
| 00:52:21 | merlin262 | It's SOOOO fecking short |
| 00:52:39 | scanline | felt the same way about the "core" of picogui back in the day ;) |
| 00:53:01 | merlin262 | It's structured a lot like picogui |
| 00:53:07 | merlin262 | all things are modules |
| 00:53:31 | merlin262 | all the core does is setup the different drivers, and provide a backbone for handling packets |
| 00:53:32 | scanline | PicoGUI wasn't originally designed to be modular, but it's definitely moving in that direction |
| 00:53:46 | file[laptop] | the PicoGUI way: start stuff you'll never finish |
| 00:54:02 | merlin262 | PicoGUI will get there |
| 00:54:05 | merlin262 | will see to it |
| 00:54:11 | merlin262 | After all, I FIANLLY finished sasteroids |
| 00:54:11 | scanline | file[laptop]: open source projects never really finish |
| 00:54:12 | merlin262 | w00t w00t |
| 00:54:25 | file[laptop] | scanline: yes yes yes |
| 00:54:28 | scanline | well, at least not big ones |
| 00:54:37 | merlin262 | there's a lways bugfixes, feature enhancements |
| 00:54:46 | merlin262 | but you could say Apache is finished |
| 00:54:47 | merlin262 | etc... |
| 00:55:05 | file[laptop] | Apache is fun, anybody try 3.x yet? |
| 00:55:05 | scanline | I'd say it's "working" rather than "finished" |
| 00:55:37 | scanline | doesn't do much web stuff |
| 00:55:40 | file[laptop] | wait |
| 00:55:41 | file[laptop] | 2.0 |
| 00:55:44 | file[laptop] | I meant 2.0! |
| 00:56:01 | scanline | likes gcc 3.x :P |
| 00:57:03 | merlin262 | ponders working on a extendedC library w/ this project |
| 00:57:26 | merlin262 | can't find one. :( |
| 00:57:30 | scanline | call it C+++ |
| 00:57:39 | scanline | or ++C |
| 00:57:40 | merlin262 | No! This is pure C, no C++ crap for this |
| 00:57:52 | merlin262 | ++C would work |
| 00:57:53 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 00:58:29 | scanline | you could even make a picogui client lib for it... cli_++c |
| 00:58:50 | file[laptop] | ponders |
| 00:59:14 | file[laptop] | would PicoGUI compile via Mingw... |
| 00:59:18 | scanline | plays with picogui fullscreen |
| 00:59:18 | file[laptop] | mmm nah |
| 00:59:32 | scanline | file[laptop]: currently not mingw, but cygwin would probably work |
| 00:59:50 | file[laptop] | scanline: yeah |
| 00:59:59 | file[laptop] | mingw is more native though |
| 01:00:14 | scanline | yeah, but you'd have to do a little bit of porting |
| 01:01:08 | file[laptop] | bah |
| 01:04:08 | merlin262 | according to most web page, K&R style is evil |
| 01:04:09 | merlin262 | blehhhhhhhh |
| 01:04:25 | scanline | whoa |
| 01:04:29 | scanline | http://www.deaddreamer.com/v10/freeze/ddr_0071_sidewinderII.jpg |
| 01:04:38 | scanline | deaddreamer has new stuff |
| 01:04:52 | file[laptop] | why won't Hitzradio's webpage come up I wonder... |
| 01:05:50 | file[laptop] | I see why... |
| 01:07:24 | file[laptop] | ARG |
| 01:07:26 | file[laptop] | this is irritating me |
| 01:07:47 | file[laptop] | I can't visit any webpages wirelessly cause of this stupid software |
| 01:08:38 | file[laptop] | just goes dead |
| 01:08:58 | Xentac[laptop] | yay... |
| 01:09:02 | carpman | grumbles and pushes file out of the top of the Central Dogma. |
| 01:09:11 | Xentac[laptop] | also installed xp on his laptop... in the 5gig he gave it... |
| 01:09:30 | carpman | Oh no! Xentac[laptop] has been contaminated! |
| 01:09:35 | file[laptop] | XP? NOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 01:09:42 | Xentac[laptop] | carpman: it came with xp on it already... |
| 01:09:51 | carpman | Prep the clamps! Activate purge!!!!! |
| 01:10:05 | file[laptop] | I need to reset my ADSL Modem |
| 01:10:44 | file[laptop] | I need to restart all my computers |
| 01:12:35 | scanline | wow |
| 01:12:39 | scanline | http://www.deaddreamer.com/v10/freeze/ddr_0059_iris_deraider.jpg |
| 01:12:41 | Xentac[laptop] | wow what? |
| 01:14:40 | scanline | lots of new stuff at deaddreamer since I looked last |
| 01:18:49 | Xentac[laptop] | mplayer killed my laptop... |
| 01:19:29 | scanline | converts his backgrounds collection into picogui themes |
| 01:19:58 | scanline | mm.. 94MB of themes |
| 01:41:26 | file[laptop] | hey darth_iBook |
| 01:41:46 | file[laptop] | I'm tired/thirsty |
| 01:41:47 | file[laptop] | brb |
| 01:42:11 | darth_iBook | hey file[laptop] |
| 01:46:04 | file[laptop] | what's up? |
| 01:46:22 | KeyserSoze | new york, new mexico, new zealand... |
| 01:46:42 | file[laptop] | points to above |
| 01:46:55 | KeyserSoze | hmm? |
| 01:46:57 | file[laptop] | the places where my birthday present has gone through it's long voyage |
| 01:47:05 | file[laptop] | gone through during it's long voyage |
| 01:47:26 | file[laptop] | I'm losing it! |
| 01:47:34 | KeyserSoze | file[laptop]: you're not making any sense. |
| 01:48:04 | file[laptop] | KeyserSoze: lack of caffeine. |
| 01:49:11 | file[laptop] | ok I'm good now |
| 01:49:32 | file[laptop] | KeyserSoze: it was a joke about how USPS or UPS could have routed it through those places during it's voyage |
| 01:50:34 | KeyserSoze | oh. no, those were in response to the question "what's up?", which is synonomous with "what's new?". the places have "new" in the name, hence the humor. |
| 01:50:54 | file[laptop] | oh ic |
| 01:51:02 | file[laptop] | good good |
| 01:54:31 | file[laptop] | listens to some DJ Doboy |
| 01:56:28 | file[laptop] | I'm gonna setup Apache and Perl on droid |
| 01:56:40 | file[laptop] | then write some scripts for basic functions (like UPS tracking, etc) |
| 02:01:24 | Xentac[laptop] | is away: going to get pizza and stuff... |
| 02:03:10 | file[laptop] | nah - Xitami... |
| 02:03:14 | file[laptop] | it's smaller |
| 02:06:28 | carpman | grr... almost.. there |
| 02:09:58 | KeyserSoze | just noticed his 'end' key doesn't work. |
| 02:10:11 | KeyserSoze | 'end' prints a ~, and shift-end prints a $ |
| 02:10:23 | KeyserSoze | 'home' works fine, though |
| 02:10:35 | carpman | well, enough for tonight. |
| 02:10:38 | carpman | night all |
| 02:11:06 | darth_iBook | is so tired |
| 02:11:11 | file[laptop] | KeyserSoze: shoot it |
| 02:11:15 | KeyserSoze | 'end' works in mozilla, though. |
| 02:11:22 | file[laptop] | darth_iBook: I don't feel well because the Pizza Hut pizza I had upset my stomach |
| 02:11:23 | KeyserSoze | but not in Eterm. |
| 02:11:32 | KeyserSoze | hey, it works in xchat, too. |
| 02:12:14 | darth_iBook | file[laptop]: I'm sorry, that's why I don't eat pizza hut that often |
| 02:12:32 | file[laptop] | darth_iBook: it was our first and last time |
| 02:12:56 | KeyserSoze | first time eating Pizza Hut pizza? |
| 02:13:07 | KeyserSoze | are they rare in Canadia? |
| 02:13:34 | darth_iBook | lol |
| 02:14:00 | file[laptop] | well there's only 1 in Moncton, Dieppe, and Riverview |
| 02:15:40 | file[laptop] | we don't even have a real UPS place here - another company takes care of it |
| 02:16:00 | file[laptop] | instead of a brown postal type van we've got a white normal van |
| 02:20:00 | JoshNet[laptop] | my keyboard hit the CAT5e cable connected to my ADSL Modem |
| 02:36:23 | darth_iBook | wb everyone |
| 02:53:53 | Xentac[laptop] | is back (gone 00:18:37) |
| 03:12:15 | merlin262 | wonders why we have daylight savings time |
| 03:13:02 | file[laptop] | omg your right |
| 03:13:15 | file[laptop] | that means it's 11:42am my time! |
| 03:13:19 | merlin262 | that's right, tonight, turn back clocks 1 hour |
| 03:13:32 | merlin262 | seems pointeles tho |
| 03:13:50 | file[laptop] | 1 hour or 30 minutes? |
| 03:13:59 | merlin262 | 1 hour, always 1 hour |
| 03:14:04 | file[laptop] | BAH |
| 03:14:09 | file[laptop] | that means it's 11:13am my time |
| 03:14:10 | merlin262 | 1 hour more sleep |
| 03:14:12 | merlin262 | =D |
| 03:14:46 | file[laptop] | ahhh crappy |
| 03:17:37 | merlin262 | isn't daylight savings worthless tho |
| 03:17:43 | merlin262 | i mean, it accomplishes, nothing. |
| 03:17:45 | merlin262 | nawda |
| 03:18:18 | file[laptop] | wth |
| 03:18:27 | file[laptop] | the tracking info on my birthday present has been "cleaned" |
| 03:18:38 | merlin262 | lol |
| 03:18:40 | file[laptop] | it doesn't even know how it was sent |
| 03:18:45 | file[laptop] | where it's going |
| 03:19:17 | file[laptop] | here - go look, http://www.ups.com/tracking/tracking.html -> 4655 0712 393 |
| 03:20:10 | merlin262 | ???? |
| 03:31:46 | merlin262 | pokes scanline in the eye. |
| 03:32:40 | file[laptop] | GOODNIGHT! |
| 03:32:48 | merlin262 | night file[laptop] |
| 04:55:42 | captain_proton | scanline: alive? |
| 04:59:58 | merlin262 | thinks he killed him when he poked his eye. |
| 05:00:36 | captain_proton | must be |
| 05:06:30 | merlin262 | watches Red Dwarf |
| 13:31:12 | file[laptop] | it's 9:30am, I want to sleep - and my step-dad is on the desktop system |
| 13:59:52 | carpman | w00000000000000000000000000000000t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:00:05 | file[laptop] | waves to carpman |
| 14:00:25 | carpman | file[laptop]: check out http://www.voidptr.org/exp/site/image.php?img=zeldatest |
| 14:00:48 | file[laptop] | is letting his step-dad use all his bandwidth for now... |
| 14:00:57 | file[laptop] | but k |
| 14:00:58 | carpman | that image is a jpeg stored on an AoF server. That image is not a file, but a data stream pushed to the webserver upon request. |
| 14:01:03 | carpman | its small |
| 14:01:20 | file[laptop] | nice |
| 14:01:43 | carpman | w00ts for joy. |
| 14:01:47 | file[laptop] | all your base are belong to us dude! |
| 14:02:42 | file[laptop] | WELL... supposed to be breakfast time but I want chicken nuggets and fries |
| 14:03:05 | carpman | marjin will be pleased, now I can make a webcomic object for AoF |
| 14:03:15 | file[laptop] | cheers |
| 14:03:46 | scanline | hi carpman |
| 14:03:48 | carpman | all he will have to do is upload the comic, and it will instantly appear on the site. |
| 14:03:49 | carpman | hey scanline |
| 14:04:05 | file[laptop] | scanline: topic, should be sliced bread! |
| 14:04:13 | carpman | ooo, I saw you get the image in the AoF log >:) |
| 14:04:14 | scanline | wonders why "zeldatest" gives the all_your_base image :) |
| 14:04:26 | scanline | carpman: spiffy! |
| 14:04:29 | scanline | file[laptop]: no |
| 14:04:29 | carpman | because I was too lazy to change the key I was using :) |
| 14:04:33 | file[laptop] | scanline: but... bah |
| 14:04:34 | scanline | hehe |
| 14:04:40 | scanline | felt really strange yesterday |
| 14:04:49 | file[laptop] | scanline: did you drink some bad Bawls? |
| 14:04:51 | carpman | scanline: it was the espresso |
| 14:04:51 | scanline | I think I'm relatively normal now though |
| 14:05:02 | scanline | carpman: I think too much espresso on an empty stomach :) |
| 14:05:14 | carpman | mmm.. coffee on an empty stomach, never good. |
| 14:05:32 | scanline | carpman: I laid down about 8:00 PM or so because my head felt really weird... it didn't hurt, just felt like something was messed up inside |
| 14:05:36 | file[laptop] | everybody remember clocks go back an hour? |
| 14:05:58 | sdh^_^ | heh |
| 14:06:07 | sdh^_^ | abiwords paypal account was robbed |
| 14:06:15 | carpman | I don't have to remember, its done automatically on almost all my clocks. |
| 14:06:16 | file[laptop] | sdh^_^: how was it robbed? |
| 14:06:20 | scanline | they had a paypal account? |
| 14:06:23 | file[laptop] | carpman: note the word "almost" |
| 14:06:57 | scanline | file[laptop]: oh, so that's why all my clocks are around 7:00 while my alarm clock is 8:00 :P |
| 14:07:07 | file[laptop] | scanline: Bingo! :) |
| 14:07:15 | carpman | scanline: the cool thing about this, I can upload in any graphics format I want, but it always comes down png >:) |
| 14:07:20 | file[laptop] | and for scanline we've got a gift certificate to Thinkgeek.com for $5! |
| 14:07:25 | scanline | carpman: nifty |
| 14:07:44 | carpman | well, except gif. PHP and gif don't get allong. |
| 14:08:07 | file[laptop] | bleh |
| 14:08:13 | sdh^_^ | i'm wondering the same thing |
| 14:09:18 | file[laptop] | sdh^_^: I suppose if somebody had the abiwords password they could just transfer the money out in little transactions so nobody would know |
| 14:09:55 | sdh^_^ | yeah |
| 14:10:15 | file[laptop] | but Paypal could trace that if needed... mmm |
| 14:12:11 | file[laptop] | sdh^_^: how do you know it was robbed? |
| 14:12:16 | sdh^_^ | its on slashdot |
| 14:12:26 | file[laptop] | goes to look |
| 14:13:07 | file[laptop] | yikes |
| 14:14:29 | file[laptop] | well this bites - two bathrooms and I can't use either |
| 14:14:48 | scanline | piss on a wallsocket |
| 14:15:32 | file[laptop] | mmm |
| 14:16:41 | carpman | haha |
| 14:24:27 | JoshNet[laptop] | stupid vacum cleaner |
| 14:24:45 | scanline | vacuum cleaners suck, don't they? |
| 14:24:57 | JoshNet[laptop] | yes |
| 14:25:04 | JoshNet[laptop] | but also causes my ADSL Connection to drop when too close |
| 14:52:22 | carpman | scanline: whats todays magic public directory number? |
| 14:52:37 | scanline | public.cc73 |
| 14:52:53 | carpman | thanks |
| 14:52:57 | scanline | np |
| 14:53:29 | file[laptop] | bah nothing good on... |
| 14:53:37 | carpman | oh, btw. The translucency thing looks awesome :) |
| 14:53:42 | scanline | >:) |
| 14:53:58 | scanline | just more things to distract me from real work |
| 14:54:12 | carpman | is that real translucency, or faked? |
| 14:54:16 | scanline | faked |
| 14:54:20 | carpman | ahh :) |
| 14:54:33 | scanline | though much better than the old method of faking translucency |
| 14:54:39 | carpman | yes |
| 14:55:03 | scanline | Real translucency will probably first show up with a rootless directfb video driver |
| 14:55:28 | scanline | then pgserver might also be able to do real translucency itself when I redo the rendering code a bit |
| 14:55:39 | carpman | http://www.voidptr.org/exp/site/image.php?img=voidptr_logo >:) |
| 14:55:53 | scanline | hehe |
| 14:55:58 | carpman | this same method can be used to stream almost anything. Including mp3s |
| 14:56:05 | scanline | cool |
| 14:56:11 | carpman | I could access my mp3s from anywhere |
| 14:57:10 | carpman | I could stream evangelion episodes over the LAN from my storage machine to my desktop. |
| 14:57:23 | scanline | thinks about recursive divtree stack rendering |
| 14:57:25 | carpman | ooo... coolness |
| 14:57:34 | scanline | no.. must.. fix... textbox..... |
| 14:57:48 | scanline | hits himself on the head with a Magic Stick of GDB |
| 14:57:54 | carpman | scanline: think of the poor neglected textbox. It WANTS you to fix it. |
| 14:58:19 | scanline | I've been trying to get this same bug fixed for several days now |
| 14:58:33 | scanline | is determined to fix it today |
| 14:58:34 | carpman | whats the bug? |
| 14:58:56 | scanline | After calling document_nuke() and inserting new text, it doesn't show up or edit properly until the textbox is resized |
| 14:59:04 | carpman | hmm |
| 14:59:19 | scanline | it's like the divnode holding the new paragraph doesn't even exist |
| 15:01:29 | scanline | carpman: I have a plan for redoing the rendering code a bit, so that it would handle overlapping windows, translucency, or pretty much anything else... you could watch a playing video through the translucent blurred background of a dialog box if you wanted |
| 15:01:31 | carpman | bbl |
| 15:01:33 | carpman | .away |
| 15:03:10 | file[laptop] | mmm |
| 15:23:07 | file[laptop] | testing what? |
| 15:23:18 | scan[testing] | textbox widget |
| 15:23:22 | file[laptop] | oh |
| 15:23:25 | scan[testing] | wow, I can type without it crashing now |
| 15:23:38 | scan[testing] | hmm..... really close |
| 15:24:36 | scan[testing] | yay |
| 15:24:41 | scan[testing] | bah |
| 15:26:18 | merlin262 | yay! |
| 15:26:27 | scanline | morning merlin262 |
| 15:27:55 | scanline | So, so you think you can tell |
| 15:27:58 | scanline | heaven from hell |
| 15:28:03 | scanline | blue skies from pain |
| 15:28:09 | scanline | can you tell a green field |
| 15:28:11 | scanline | from a cold steel rail |
| 15:28:17 | scanline | a smile from a vail |
| 15:28:20 | scanline | do you think you can tell |
| 15:28:34 | scanline | forgot how good pink floyd can be for coding |
| 15:29:40 | merlin262 | introduces more bugs into the textbox widget! |
| 15:29:50 | scanline | we're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl |
| 15:29:51 | scanline | year after year |
| 15:29:54 | scanline | merlin262: die! |
| 15:30:19 | file[laptop] | if ( 1 ) { use( OLD_TEXTBOX_WIDGET ); } |
| 15:30:33 | scanline | kills file too |
| 15:30:57 | file[laptop] | spawns a new process |
| 15:31:12 | scan[hmmm] | testing... |
| 15:31:13 | scan[hmmm] | wow! |
| 15:31:22 | file[laptop] | fixed good? |
| 15:31:23 | scan[hmmm] | mwa ha ha ha |
| 15:31:30 | scan[hmmm] | well, xchat works again |
| 15:31:38 | file[laptop] | good good |
| 15:31:42 | file[laptop] | screenshot? |
| 15:32:02 | scan[hmmm] | soon.. I want to fix a small bug in the freetype code first |
| 15:32:08 | file[laptop] | k |
| 15:32:21 | file[laptop] | WELL |
| 15:32:35 | file[laptop] | what to do... I just don't know |
| 15:36:01 | scanline | is hungry |
| 15:36:53 | file[laptop] | I can either write up my internal LAN system ( local UPS tracking / whois lookups / RIPE database access / etc ) or code |
| 15:42:59 | file[laptop] | decides to delete an old Windows install and then code |
| 15:53:31 | file[laptop] | scanline: fix that bug yet? |
| 15:53:59 | scanline | :P |
| 15:55:38 | file[laptop] | listens to some Trance while he annoys scanline |
| 15:55:50 | file[laptop] | sweet - TerraSurf compiled without needing any further modifications |
| 16:10:56 | scanline | PicoBot: seen gonkulator? |
| 16:10:56 | PicoBot | gonkulator was last seen on #picogui 19 hours, 18 minutes and 54 seconds ago, saying: actually, time to put the iBook to sleep [Sat Oct 26 14:53:00 2002] |
| 16:22:59 | file[laptop] | hrms |
| 16:25:29 | file[laptop] | scanline? |
| 17:22:09 | sdh^_^ | as far as you take me, thats where i believe |
| 17:31:24 | sdh^_^ | hmm |
| 17:31:26 | sdh^_^ | picobot bounce! |
| 17:31:26 | PicoBot | sdh^_^: i'm not following you... |
| 17:31:33 | sdh^_^ | picobot jump! |
| 17:31:33 | PicoBot | sorry sdh^_^, this is strictly a "no jumping" channel |
| 17:31:40 | sdh^_^ | PicoBot: bah you're no fun |
| 17:31:40 | PicoBot | sdh^_^: sorry... |
| 17:51:54 | hikke | PicoBot: Zap! |
| 17:51:54 | PicoBot | hikke: excuse me? |
| 17:51:58 | hikke | Blah |
| 17:52:07 | hikke | PicoBot: poke |
| 17:52:07 | PicoBot | cries |
| 17:52:11 | hikke | PicoBot: poke poke |
| 17:52:11 | PicoBot | quit that! |
| 17:52:19 | hikke | PicoBot: poke poke poke |
| 17:52:19 | PicoBot | STOP POKING ME |
| 17:52:27 | hikke | PicoBot: poke poke poke poke |
| 17:52:27 | PicoBot | starts poking back! |
| 17:52:34 | hikke | aagh |
| 17:52:39 | hikke | (bored) |
| 17:56:05 | file[laptop] | hi prpplague |
| 17:57:21 | prpplague | lo |
| 18:02:49 | file[laptop] | prpplague: what's up? |
| 18:03:25 | prpplague | getting ready for phase two of the switch over |
| 18:03:31 | prpplague | gonna be a long night |
| 18:05:32 | file[laptop] | frowns |
| 18:05:40 | file[laptop] | at BS&T Direct Commerce? |
| 18:07:58 | prpplague | file[laptop]: yep |
| 18:08:07 | prpplague | file[laptop]: you do a dig on that? |
| 18:08:25 | file[laptop] | prpplague: nah went to ARIN's homepage and did a whois on your IP |
| 18:08:35 | prpplague | ARIN's ? |
| 18:09:09 | file[laptop] | http://www.arin.net/ |
| 18:11:34 | Ahnkana | scanline: food? |
| 18:11:48 | Ahnkana | scanline: ask michael too, would you? |
| 18:12:48 | prpplague | that was interesting |
| 18:13:02 | prpplague | file[laptop]: thanks, i was unaware of that site |
| 18:14:50 | file[laptop] | prpplague: hehe |
| 18:14:59 | file[laptop] | prpplague: ARIN is for the Americans, RIPE is for Europe and stuff... and there's another |
| 18:15:36 | file[laptop] | it'll usually point you to the right place if you put in an IP that won't work there |
| 18:24:11 | gonkulator | crap.... |
| 18:24:19 | file[laptop] | what |
| 18:24:26 | gonkulator | my work connection... |
| 18:27:12 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen carpman |
| 18:27:13 | PicoBot | carpman was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 25 minutes and 40 seconds ago, saying: .away [Sun Oct 27 08:02:31 2002] |
| 18:27:26 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 18:27:26 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 2 hours, 16 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying: PicoBot: seen gonkulator? [Sun Oct 27 09:11:54 2002] |
| 18:27:39 | gonkulator | hehehehe |
| 18:27:49 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen Xentac |
| 18:27:49 | PicoBot | Xentac was last seen on #picogui 19 hours, 2 minutes and 7 seconds ago, saying: is away: not here [Sat Oct 26 17:26:40 2002] |
| 18:27:56 | prpplague | file[laptop]: lol, do a google on "bs&t" and barbados |
| 18:28:27 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 18:29:04 | file[laptop] | Barbados Shipping & Trading... mocking me! |
| 18:29:09 | gonkulator | prpplague: %blow <---- Type that ata comand prompt |
| 18:29:40 | prpplague | gonkulator: sorry command not found :) |
| 18:29:48 | gonkulator | ? |
| 18:30:01 | gonkulator | it should say "blow: no such job" |
| 18:30:12 | gonkulator | try bash... |
| 18:30:48 | prpplague | oh you didn't say bash, i was on ksh |
| 18:31:03 | gonkulator | heh, try bash |
| 18:31:13 | gonkulator | thinks tcsh will do that too |
| 18:31:49 | gonkulator | [propellant:~] brandon1% %blow |
| 18:31:49 | gonkulator | %blow: No such job. |
| 18:31:50 | prpplague | gonkulator: ha funny |
| 18:32:15 | prpplague | nothing like geek humor |
| 18:32:25 | gonkulator | uh huh |
| 18:32:40 | gonkulator | prpplague: I told you about the christmas/halloween joke right? |
| 18:32:56 | prpplague | gonkulator: no, i've been a little out of touch the last few days |
| 18:33:04 | gonkulator | OH |
| 18:33:19 | gonkulator | you know why geeks can't tell the difference between Halloween and Christmas right? |
| 18:33:32 | gonkulator | because OCT 31 == DEC 25 |
| 18:33:46 | sdh^_^ | heh |
| 18:34:02 | sdh^_^ | man this is cool |
| 18:34:10 | gonkulator | sdh^_^: where did fraggle go? |
| 18:34:14 | sdh^_^ | i had an urge for pizza but all the pizza places are closed |
| 18:34:20 | sdh^_^ | because its sunday |
| 18:34:25 | sdh^_^ | so i made toasted pizza sandwich |
| 18:34:25 | gonkulator | ok... |
| 18:34:30 | gonkulator | ooooh |
| 18:34:31 | gonkulator | bbiab |
| 18:34:53 | file[laptop] | sdh^_^: don't talk about food... |
| 18:35:07 | sdh^_^ | like a cheese and pepperami sandwich toasted |
| 18:35:20 | file[laptop] | I don't want that so it's ok |
| 18:36:20 | gonkulator | lacking pepperoni sliced up a hot dog and lacking bread used a tortilla |
| 18:36:45 | sdh^_^ | yay |
| 18:37:54 | sdh^_^ | actually i bet pizza sandwich could be a really cool snack food |
| 18:38:07 | sdh^_^ | all the goodness of pizza with all the convenience of a sandwich |
| 18:38:21 | sdh^_^ | i'll make millions! |
| 18:38:24 | gonkulator | they call them "bagel bites" |
| 18:38:30 | gonkulator | and they have made millions |
| 18:38:32 | file[laptop] | I love those |
| 18:38:36 | sdh^_^ | heh bah |
| 18:38:44 | file[laptop] | they're really good |
| 18:44:24 | scanline | hmm |
| 18:44:46 | gonkulator | hi scanline |
| 18:44:53 | gonkulator | pokes prpplague |
| 18:44:58 | scanline | hi |
| 18:47:05 | gonkulator | scanline: send Dan an email telling him that he has to go with us to Durango next weekend |
| 18:47:16 | gonkulator | I tried to convince him yesterday, and he wouldn't say "OK" |
| 18:47:19 | file[laptop] | Durango, Unknown - Please clarify. |
| 18:47:26 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: hush |
| 18:47:34 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: Confirmed. |
| 18:53:22 | prpplague | is busy formatting the Sub Class Os box (aka SCO) |
| 18:53:27 | prpplague | is busy formatting the Sub Class Os box (aka SCO) |
| 18:56:56 | gonkulator | oh, o |
| 18:57:14 | gonkulator | s/, o/, ok/ |
| 18:57:42 | gonkulator | prpplague: did you like my joke? |
| 18:59:27 | prpplague | gonkulator: lol, ya i'd heard that one before, just forgot it |
| 18:59:35 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 18:59:46 | gonkulator | forgot it a long time ago |
| 18:59:48 | prpplague | gonkulator: my son knows the alphabet and its ascii value |
| 19:00:26 | gonkulator | prpplague: you must be a proud father |
| 19:00:48 | prpplague | gonkulator: no till he can do it in hex too |
| 19:01:42 | gonkulator | prpplague: but for other reasons too, you should be a proud father ;) |
| 19:02:02 | prpplague | gonkulator: lol, i am of course |
| 19:02:14 | gonkulator | hehehehe |
| 19:02:16 | prpplague | gonkulator: however i doubt he will do anything in computers |
| 19:02:24 | gonkulator | how old is he? |
| 19:03:01 | prpplague | 5 |
| 19:03:12 | gonkulator | ooooh, fun |
| 19:03:18 | gonkulator | remenbers when he was 5 |
| 19:03:34 | prpplague | gonkulator: when was that? a couple of years ago? |
| 19:04:05 | gonkulator | 14 years... |
| 19:06:31 | merlin262 | why is it when Microsoft releases 10 year old tech, it's hailed as the next coming? |
| 19:07:05 | gonkulator | merlin262: marketing |
| 19:09:54 | DevGirl[out] | hello! |
| 19:10:02 | gonkulator | hi DevGirl[out] |
| 19:10:05 | file[laptop] | hi DevGirl, how's the little one? |
| 19:10:31 | DevGirl | bumping, all the time |
| 19:10:34 | DevGirl | :) |
| 19:10:36 | file[laptop] | :) |
| 19:10:43 | merlin262 | hi DevGirl |
| 19:10:50 | merlin262 | file[laptop] has a laptop now? |
| 19:10:58 | merlin262 | Am I the only person that doesn't have a laptop |
| 19:11:01 | merlin262 | goes off to shoot himself. |
| 19:11:16 | file[laptop] | merlin262: I've had a laptop for awhile |
| 19:11:22 | file[laptop] | a few months |
| 19:11:23 | gonkulator | merlin262: probe doesn't have a working laptop |
| 19:11:41 | gonkulator | merlin262: I have had a laptop since my junior year of High School |
| 19:11:44 | merlin262 | w00t! I'm not alone! |
| 19:11:52 | merlin262 | I had a laptop, a couple years ago |
| 19:11:59 | merlin262 | 486 dx 100 |
| 19:12:17 | gonkulator | has an iBook, just like carpman and scanline |
| 19:12:19 | Xentac | is back (gone 16:37:06) |
| 19:12:25 | gonkulator | hi Xentac |
| 19:12:30 | merlin262 | hi Xentac |
| 19:12:33 | DevGirl | hi, Xentac |
| 19:12:34 | Xentac | hehehe... 16 hours... that's what happens when you stay the night at a friend's place... |
| 19:12:43 | file[laptop] | Xentac: lol |
| 19:13:06 | gonkulator | Xentac: you need to go to a friend's place that has bandwidth |
| 19:13:43 | gonkulator | merlin262: here is what I think you should do |
| 19:13:51 | Xentac | gonkulator: I was! didn't you see Xentac[laptop]? |
| 19:14:02 | Xentac | hi everyone who said hi to me |
| 19:14:13 | DevGirl | hiya, darth_balls |
| 19:14:18 | darth_balls | hola DevGirl |
| 19:14:28 | darth_balls | greetings all |
| 19:14:31 | gonkulator | merlin262: register as an apple developer (free) and use the discount to get an iBook or a Powerbook |
| 19:14:32 | gonkulator | hey darth_balls |
| 19:14:46 | merlin262 | gonkulator how much of a discount? |
| 19:15:06 | gonkulator | merlin262: it is significant... like maybe 30% |
| 19:15:16 | darth_balls | ooh |
| 19:15:18 | darth_balls | that is a lot |
| 19:15:28 | file[laptop] | merlin262: you know you wanna now |
| 19:15:43 | darth_balls | loves his iBook |
| 19:15:55 | file[laptop] | hugs his Thinkpad |
| 19:16:03 | DevGirl | would like to have a laptop |
| 19:16:04 | gonkulator | darth_balls: dan told me that Apple is going to be releasing a G4 iBook in january |
| 19:16:13 | darth_balls | really?? |
| 19:16:13 | gonkulator | I am going to get one in March if they do release one then |
| 19:16:14 | darth_balls | cool |
| 19:16:21 | darth_balls | I wish I could get one |
| 19:16:27 | darth_balls | but my little G3 is nice anyway |
| 19:16:30 | gonkulator | is looking forward to the upgrade |
| 19:16:44 | gonkulator | my iBook is nice, but I want movie editing power |
| 19:17:07 | merlin262 | $11/mo |
| 19:17:07 | darth_balls | I still want one of the dual processor towers, though |
| 19:17:08 | merlin262 | hmmm |
| 19:17:17 | scanline | thinks it's funny how apple makes everybody think they need to edit movies, and to use their iSoftware to do so :) |
| 19:17:24 | darth_balls | hehe |
| 19:17:37 | gonkulator | scanline: I would be editing stuff for pay |
| 19:17:56 | scanline | gonkulator: no offense, but I haven't known you to be the most artistic |
| 19:17:58 | Xentac | needs a movie to be able to edit it... |
| 19:18:02 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 19:18:06 | merlin262 | wouldn't mind an ibook |
| 19:18:12 | merlin262 | ponders |
| 19:18:19 | gonkulator | scanline: have you read my poetry |
| 19:18:30 | gonkulator | scanline: I am very autistic |
| 19:18:35 | scanline | gonkulator: hehe |
| 19:18:49 | scanline | is just going by the things he's seen gonkulator draw |
| 19:18:58 | scanline | gonkulator: you can make quite a mess given the right tools ;) |
| 19:19:09 | gonkulator | oh jeez.. |
| 19:19:36 | merlin262 | hrm... |
| 19:19:39 | merlin262 | I hate being broke |
| 19:19:42 | merlin262 | looks at $5 |
| 19:20:35 | gonkulator | is saving up |
| 19:20:43 | gonkulator | also wants a mobile gaming machine |
| 19:21:27 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 19:21:28 | scanline | gonkulator: game boys aren't that expensive |
| 19:21:36 | darth_balls | hehe |
| 19:21:39 | gonkulator | but I want to play WC3 |
| 19:21:44 | merlin262 | lol |
| 19:21:49 | file[laptop] | so? port WC3 to Gameboy! |
| 19:21:54 | file[laptop] | :) |
| 19:21:56 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: you do it |
| 19:22:07 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: I don't have the equipment, scanline does :) |
| 19:22:19 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: why don't you buy the equipment |
| 19:22:24 | gonkulator | game boys are cheap |
| 19:22:40 | file[laptop] | the memory card and stuff... |
| 19:22:56 | file[laptop] | gameboys are $120 here |
| 19:23:03 | gonkulator | build one |
| 19:23:15 | gonkulator | get an old one off of ebay |
| 19:23:25 | Xentac | geez... is this like, "I'm going to clash with everyone day"? |
| 19:23:33 | gonkulator | Xentac: yep |
| 19:23:44 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: you get an old one off EBay! |
| 19:23:54 | Xentac | has an old one... |
| 19:24:02 | Xentac | one of the originals... before they were even different colours! |
| 19:24:25 | Xentac | it's not exactly in the best of shape any more... there is at least one vertical line that never lights up... |
| 19:24:29 | DevGirl | would like to have a game boy... but it's expensive, here |
| 19:24:46 | file[laptop] | DevGirl: an emulator will have to do? |
| 19:25:16 | DevGirl | had an emulator, once |
| 19:25:46 | gonkulator | considers going to the basement to play UT2003 |
| 19:25:57 | Xentac | "she died, she died... Mother said she was sleeping... she lied, she lied... why oh why did my emulator die why couldn't it have been me instead? |
| 19:25:59 | Xentac | " |
| 19:26:16 | file[laptop] | Xentac: are you ok? |
| 19:26:28 | Xentac | file[laptop]: it was a simpsons quote... that was Xentac-ified |
| 19:26:30 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: its a song |
| 19:26:41 | file[laptop] | o.k. |
| 19:29:34 | file[laptop] | oof |
| 19:31:29 | darth_balls | Xentac: which episode was that? |
| 19:31:59 | Xentac | darth_balls: Lisa was going to help Homer do something... but he had to listen to her poem first... I don't remember... |
| 19:32:15 | darth_balls | I think I vaguely remember that one |
| 19:32:28 | darth_balls | If I've seen it I've only seen it once |
| 19:32:49 | Xentac | nods. |
| 19:32:57 | darth_balls | my friend jon would know |
| 19:33:05 | Xentac | I can just remember quotes... I can't really remember the rest of the episodes... |
| 19:33:11 | darth_balls | what was the real word the you replace w/ "emulator"? |
| 19:33:24 | Xentac | hamster |
| 19:33:32 | darth_balls | ok |
| 19:33:39 | Xentac | I once had a hamster named fluffy |
| 19:33:46 | darth_balls | I've never had a hampster |
| 19:33:49 | darth_balls | only fish and dogs |
| 19:33:52 | darth_balls | and an iguana once |
| 19:33:53 | Xentac | me neither |
| 19:34:13 | Xentac | is away: cleaning and probably being beaten up |
| 19:34:19 | gonkulator | remembers the iguana |
| 19:34:39 | gonkulator | darth_balls: what about cats? |
| 19:37:01 | darth_balls | nope |
| 19:37:08 | darth_balls | both my mother and I are very allergic to them |
| 19:37:13 | darth_balls | plus, I don't really like most cats |
| 19:37:13 | gonkulator | brothers? |
| 19:37:47 | darth_balls | what?? |
| 19:38:37 | darth_balls | gonkulator: were you talking to me? |
| 19:38:57 | gonkulator | darth_balls: only if you think so |
| 19:39:03 | darth_balls | doesn't know what to think |
| 19:39:05 | gonkulator | darth_balls: younger brothers are sometimes like pets |
| 19:39:08 | darth_balls | oh |
| 19:39:17 | darth_balls | no, Kyle is definately not like a pet |
| 19:39:23 | gonkulator | oki |
| 19:39:31 | darth_balls | but he is my younger brother |
| 19:39:36 | darth_balls | so I suppose the answer is yes |
| 19:39:43 | gonkulator | ok |
| 19:40:00 | gonkulator | isn't st0ned, but he feels like he is |
| 19:40:02 | DevGirl | loves cats :) |
| 19:40:13 | DevGirl | will adopt a kitty |
| 19:40:26 | DevGirl | K I T T E N :D |
| 19:41:08 | darth_balls | DevGirl: lol |
| 19:41:24 | gonkulator | hello kitty... |
| 19:41:34 | darth_balls | I really like kittens, too bad they grow up to be cats |
| 19:42:07 | DevGirl | mew. |
| 19:42:26 | darth_balls | offers DevGirl a saucer of milk |
| 19:42:36 | gonkulator | really likes sleep |
| 19:42:47 | gonkulator | decides that sleep is a good idea |
| 19:42:56 | gonkulator | night everyone |
| 19:43:12 | gonkulator | is away: sleepy time |
| 19:44:21 | DevGirl | drinks the milk |
| 19:44:33 | DevGirl | I'm still hungry >:) |
| 19:44:44 | darth_balls | yeah, but at least now you won't destroy the world ;) |
| 19:44:46 | darth_balls | I hope |
| 19:45:50 | darth_balls | hey, what pgm can I get to convert cd's to mp3? |
| 19:45:57 | DevGirl | is the evil :D |
| 19:46:17 | darth_balls | thinks that DevGirl isn't "the evil" just pregnant ^_^ |
| 19:46:45 | DevGirl | wants to eat!!! |
| 19:46:59 | DevGirl | is "the pregnant evil" >;) |
| 19:47:09 | darth_balls | that's frightening |
| 19:47:28 | DevGirl | :D |
| 19:47:41 | darth_balls | I still need a program to convert my cd's to Mp3 |
| 19:47:45 | darth_balls | anyone have any suggestions? |
| 19:48:04 | DevGirl | I don't know how to do... :P |
| 19:48:21 | darth_balls | file[laptop]: you still here? |
| 19:48:32 | file[laptop] | yes |
| 19:48:38 | darth_balls | any suggestions? |
| 19:48:44 | file[laptop] | darth_balls: negative |
| 19:48:55 | darth_balls | oh well |
| 19:49:08 | darth_balls | guess I'll have to do it "the old fashioned way" |
| 20:06:46 | merlin262 | I've never been so happy to see a program generate an error message before! w00t w00t! |
| 20:20:55 | merlin262 | wb scanline |
| 20:20:57 | merlin262 | wb KeyserSoze |
| 20:21:12 | merlin262 | is getting a BEUTIFUL error msg now! |
| 20:21:23 | scanline | hi merlin262 |
| 20:21:25 | carpman | is away: I'm busy |
| 20:21:27 | sdh^_^ | heh |
| 20:21:28 | carpman | err |
| 20:21:30 | carpman | is back (gone 00:00:04) |
| 20:21:40 | carpman | merlin262: all that higher math getting to you? |
| 20:21:46 | file[laptop] | cheers |
| 20:21:52 | merlin262 | See: [NxPak] PktFindDriver: Bad or Undefined Packet Type |
| 20:22:08 | ^_sdh_^ | look! wings! |
| 20:22:16 | merlin262 | shoots ^_sdh_^ |
| 20:22:24 | scanline | them texans and their guns... |
| 20:22:43 | carpman | ^_sdh_^: you must have violated his airspace. |
| 20:22:58 | ^_sdh_^ | is #picogui a no fly zone |
| 20:23:02 | ^_sdh_^ | PicoBot: jump |
| 20:23:03 | PicoBot | sorry ^_sdh_^, this is strictly a "no jumping" channel |
| 20:23:07 | file[laptop] | can't talk.. english teacher will give me 0/10... |
| 20:23:23 | merlin262 | wonders if one can use swab on the same memory address... |
| 20:23:30 | ^_sdh_^ | cant sleep.. english teacher will eat me... |
| 20:23:30 | merlin262 | goes over to #c |
| 20:23:44 | carpman | shoots merlin262 |
| 20:23:51 | carpman | oh wait |
| 20:23:59 | carpman | I read that as c#, sorry. |
| 20:24:22 | ^_sdh_^ | c#! |
| 20:24:35 | merlin262 | c#! w00t! |
| 20:24:56 | ^_sdh_^ | c#! microsoft rlz!! |
| 20:25:13 | carpman | shoots ^_sdh_^ |
| 20:25:27 | merlin262 | bah! no answer from #c |
| 20:26:08 | ^_sdh_^ | what is the question |
| 20:28:25 | scanline | oh my has the world come to an end? programming-related talk in #picogui! |
| 20:29:28 | KeyserSoze | scanline: don't worry, the programming isn't related to picogui. |
| 20:29:56 | scanline | captain_proton: boo |
| 20:30:01 | captain_proton | jumps |
| 20:30:08 | file[laptop] | mmm |
| 20:30:26 | scanline | Sorry captain_proton, this is strictly a "no jumping" channel |
| 20:31:04 | merlin262 | scanline: do you know if its safe to use swab with the same memory address? |
| 20:31:52 | scanline | why are you using swab? |
| 20:32:09 | merlin262 | reading in a binary file on both Macs and PC's |
| 20:32:15 | merlin262 | Macs need to swab |
| 20:32:15 | scanline | oh.. that's bad |
| 20:32:34 | scanline | for endian independence, use the ntohs and friends |
| 20:33:08 | scanline | ntohs converts shorts from network to host byte order, htons converts shorts from host to network, htonl converts longs from host to network, etc. |
| 20:33:29 | scanline | Network byte order is big endian, so on big endian machines they're a no-op, but the libc headers handle that for yo |
| 20:33:31 | scanline | s/yo/you |
| 20:33:56 | scanline | they're in netinet/in.h |
| 20:34:16 | merlin262 | only BSD 4.3 tho |
| 20:34:28 | merlin262 | swab: SVID 3, BSD 4.3, POSIX 1003.1-2001 |
| 20:35:04 | ^_sdh_^ | i want to run picogui on a VAX running BSD 4.3 |
| 20:35:16 | merlin262 | hehehehehe, this is for pkgmgr, |
| 20:35:22 | merlin262 | pgserver will be worked on later today |
| 20:35:24 | merlin262 | =D |
| 20:35:26 | scanline | htonl is part of BSD sockets, which is used on a lot of systems... and for systems that don't have them you can always define them yourself |
| 20:35:52 | scanline | merlin262: still planning on rootless by midnight? :) |
| 20:35:59 | merlin262 | don't think so |
| 20:36:01 | merlin262 | blehhhh |
| 20:36:09 | merlin262 | is obsessed with his pkg mgr |
| 20:36:14 | carpman | all the world is a VAX, of course. |
| 20:36:41 | ^_sdh_^ | all the world is an i386 now |
| 20:36:44 | ^_sdh_^ | no, it really is |
| 20:36:58 | scanline | my laptop must not be in this world then |
| 20:37:17 | merlin262 | This particular heresy bids fair to be replaced by ``All the world's a Sun'' or ``All the world's a 386'' (this latter being a particularly revolting invention of Satan), but the words apply to all such without limitation. |
| 20:37:29 | ^_sdh_^ | vnc for picogui would be fun |
| 20:37:30 | merlin262 | =D |
| 20:37:35 | carpman | Every time I think of VAX, I think "sucks". |
| 20:37:37 | scanline | ^_sdh_^: it's on the todo list |
| 20:37:47 | ^_sdh_^ | i should have known :P |
| 20:37:52 | scanline | notes that ^_sdh_^'s name is a bit annoying to tab complete :) |
| 20:37:55 | carpman | But thats because vaccum cleaners suck... |
| 20:38:12 | scanline | PicoBot: nickometer ^_sdh_^ |
| 20:38:13 | PicoBot | '^_sdh_^' is 99.56% lame, scanline |
| 20:38:16 | ^_sdh_^ | i'm the nose on a korean smiley |
| 20:38:30 | carpman | PicoBot: nickometer carpman |
| 20:38:30 | PicoBot | 'carpman' is 0% lame, carpman |
| 20:38:35 | carpman | damn strait |
| 20:38:45 | scanline | PicoBot: nickometer merlin262 |
| 20:38:45 | PicoBot | 'merlin262' is 22% lame, scanline |
| 20:38:48 | scanline | PicoBot: nickometer scanline |
| 20:38:49 | PicoBot | 'scanline' is 0% lame, scanline |
| 20:38:52 | merlin262 | blehhhhh |
| 20:38:54 | merlin262 | I'm lame? |
| 20:38:58 | gonkulator | PicoBot: nickometer gonkulator |
| 20:38:58 | PicoBot | 'gonkulator' is 0% lame, gonkulator |
| 20:39:00 | merlin262 | shoots PicoBot |
| 20:39:01 | darth_balls | no, just your nick |
| 20:39:05 | merlin262 | blehh |
| 20:39:06 | darth_balls | and only 22% |
| 20:39:06 | carpman | PicoBot: nickometer file[laptop] |
| 20:39:06 | PicoBot | 'file[laptop]' is 0% lame, carpman |
| 20:39:06 | scanline | merlin262: What is the 262 in there for anyway? |
| 20:39:07 | darth_balls | so not that bad |
| 20:39:11 | ^_sdh_^ | PicoBot nickometer PicoBot |
| 20:39:11 | PicoBot | 'PicoBot' is 0% lame, ^_sdh_^ |
| 20:39:21 | ^_sdh_^ | PicoBot nickometer "*&^$&*"^$&*9872389 |
| 20:39:21 | PicoBot | '"*&^$&*"^$&*9872389' is 99.992438% lame, ^_sdh_^ |
| 20:39:22 | gonkulator | PicoBot: nickometer darth_balls |
| 20:39:22 | merlin262 | it's a random number cause merlin was already taken |
| 20:39:22 | PicoBot | 'darth_balls' is 14% lame, gonkulator |
| 20:39:28 | scanline | PicoBot: nickometer darth_balls |
| 20:39:28 | PicoBot | 'darth_balls' is 14% lame, scanline |
| 20:39:28 | carpman | bah, the nickometer must be b0rken, file is at least 400% lame |
| 20:39:29 | darth_balls | hehe |
| 20:39:30 | scanline | oop |
| 20:39:39 | scanline | carpman: I can have that altered :) |
| 20:39:43 | darth_balls | wonders why he's only 14% lame |
| 20:40:07 | merlin262 | I've had this nic for 4-5 years now |
| 20:40:17 | merlin262 | ponders changing it, but has no idea what too. |
| 20:40:26 | file[laptop] | PicoBot: nickometer file[laptop] |
| 20:40:27 | PicoBot | 'file[laptop]' is 0% lame, file[laptop] |
| 20:40:38 | merlin262 | PicoBot: nickometer merlin |
| 20:40:39 | PicoBot | 'merlin' is 0% lame, merlin262 |
| 20:40:40 | gonkulator | merlin262: carpman got me to change my name at A-Kon |
| 20:40:40 | carpman | file[laptop]: thats obviously a mistake |
| 20:40:54 | darth_balls | haha |
| 20:40:58 | file[laptop] | carpman: :) |
| 20:40:59 | merlin262 | PicoBot: nickometer PicoBot |
| 20:40:59 | PicoBot | 'PicoBot' is 0% lame, merlin262 |
| 20:41:02 | carpman | gonkulator: as I remember, it was your idea, I just agreed |
| 20:41:08 | gonkulator | ? |
| 20:41:09 | file[laptop] | PicoBot: nickometer ickysneeze |
| 20:41:09 | PicoBot | 'ickysneeze' is 0% lame, file[laptop] |
| 20:41:17 | file[laptop] | PicoBot: nickometer gonkulator{lost} |
| 20:41:17 | PicoBot | 'gonkulator{lost}' is 0% lame, file[laptop] |
| 20:41:20 | file[laptop] | good good |
| 20:41:22 | merlin262 | PicoBot: merlin2 |
| 20:41:22 | PicoBot | merlin262: excuse me? |
| 20:41:27 | merlin262 | PicoBot: nickometer merlin2 |
| 20:41:27 | PicoBot | 'merlin2' is 14% lame, merlin262 |
| 20:41:30 | merlin262 | PicoBot: nickometer merlin1 |
| 20:41:31 | PicoBot | 'merlin1' is 22% lame, merlin262 |
| 20:41:33 | carpman | For most of a-kon tho, he was ickygonkensneezulator |
| 20:41:36 | merlin262 | I donta get it |
| 20:42:03 | gonkulator | it must have been Marjin's doing then |
| 20:42:04 | scanline | merlin262: it's a very highly complex and technical algorithm |
| 20:42:17 | carpman | gonkulator: kind of hard to remember, huh? :) |
| 20:42:34 | gonkulator | I had gonkulator as my name in UT |
| 20:42:41 | gonkulator | and I was wasting everyone |
| 20:42:50 | gonkulator | so marjin said that he got "gonkulated" |
| 20:42:53 | gonkulator | and then, it stuck |
| 20:43:13 | darth_balls | i like nate's nick in UT |
| 20:43:19 | darth_balls | wasted_oxygen |
| 20:43:24 | gonkulator | uh huh |
| 20:43:27 | gonkulator | likes it too |
| 20:43:33 | darth_balls | PicoBot: nickometer wasted_oxygen |
| 20:43:33 | PicoBot | 'wasted_oxygen' is 14% lame, darth_balls |
| 20:43:39 | darth_balls | damn staight it is |
| 20:43:42 | darth_balls | hehe |
| 20:44:45 | darth_balls | PicoBot: nickometer Evan |
| 20:44:45 | PicoBot | 'Evan' is 0% lame, darth_balls |
| 20:44:47 | darth_balls | hehe |
| 20:45:06 | gonkulator | PicoBot: nickometer Micah Jarod Dowty |
| 20:45:06 | PicoBot | 'Micah' is 0% lame, gonkulator |
| 20:45:19 | gonkulator | PicoBot: nickometer Micah\ Jarod\ Dowty |
| 20:45:19 | PicoBot | 'Micah\' is 14% lame, gonkulator |
| 20:45:23 | scanline | you spelled my name wrong, you bastard |
| 20:45:24 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 20:45:30 | gonkulator | Jared? |
| 20:45:31 | darth_balls | lol |
| 20:45:32 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 20:45:43 | scanline | I think it's "Jarrod" |
| 20:45:47 | darth_balls | rofl |
| 20:45:53 | gonkulator | "I think"....? |
| 20:45:58 | scanline | almost never uses his middle name |
| 20:46:05 | scanline | My name sucks, the middle part most of all |
| 20:46:06 | darth_balls | roflmao |
| 20:46:20 | darth_balls | scanline: you crack me up |
| 20:46:21 | file[laptop] | to the Colorado EDU thingy lookup... form |
| 20:46:50 | scanline | "Dowty, Micah Jerrod, Student" |
| 20:46:59 | gonkulator | oh, oops |
| 20:47:03 | scanline | that just looks wierd.... |
| 20:47:08 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 20:47:13 | scanline | prefers just plain "micah" |
| 20:47:50 | file[laptop] | or scanline? |
| 20:48:03 | scanline | yeah, but not in real life |
| 20:48:17 | file[laptop] | hrms over having hamburgers for supper |
| 20:48:24 | scanline | I always think it's weird when someone calls me "micah" on IRC or "scanline" anywhere else |
| 20:48:31 | file[laptop] | I bet |
| 20:48:44 | gonkulator | calles scanline scanline when we play starcraft and UT |
| 20:48:51 | scanline | that's like IRC though |
| 20:49:24 | gonkulator | thought it was really funny in the wopn roll call to hear "gonkulator" |
| 20:49:57 | gonkulator | and then mysticOne's way of saying it with such surprise |
| 20:50:09 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 20:50:18 | gonkulator | GONKULATOR??? |
| 20:50:34 | file[laptop] | scanline: so has captain_proton been doing any of his video stuff lately? |
| 20:50:50 | gonkulator | UDP network flooding is fun |
| 20:51:03 | gonkulator | would flood his network with UDP packets, but nobody would care |
| 20:51:33 | gonkulator | I should upgrade to a switch from my hub... |
| 20:52:00 | file[laptop] | why? |
| 20:53:06 | gonkulator | no reason |
| 20:53:10 | file[laptop] | good reason |
| 20:54:39 | FraggedByNature | file[laptop]: i've got it working with multicast, so i only flood the people who want to be flooded |
| 20:55:26 | file[laptop] | FraggedByNature: but that's no fun |
| 20:55:42 | gonkulator | FraggedByNature: want to play some bzFlag? |
| 20:56:30 | FraggedByNature | gonkulator: for a few minutes |
| 20:57:00 | gonkulator | doesn't have a mouse right now |
| 20:57:03 | gonkulator | just a sec |
| 20:58:02 | gonkulator | ugh... |
| 20:58:06 | gonkulator | doesn't have it installed |
| 20:58:10 | gonkulator | n/m FraggedByNature |
| 21:03:48 | gonkulator | grows tired again |
| 21:06:47 | darth_balls | thinks about doing some cow runs after he finishes this paper |
| 21:14:36 | scan[pg] | hmm |
| 21:14:37 | KeyserSoze | damnit, they came back |
| 21:14:38 | KeyserSoze | it was nice in here, without all the riff-raff |
| 21:14:40 | KeyserSoze | PicoBot: nickometer riff_raff |
| 21:14:40 | PicoBot | 'riff_raff' is 14% lame, KeyserSoze |
| 21:14:42 | gonkulator | pokes PicoBot |
| 21:14:53 | carpman | PicoBot: quiver like jello |
| 21:14:53 | PicoBot | carpman: what? |
| 21:14:54 | file[laptop] | splits are nice |
| 21:14:55 | scan[pg] | wonders if that keyboard bug will come back.... |
| 21:15:03 | KeyserSoze | PicoBot: nickometer KeyserSoze |
| 21:15:03 | PicoBot | 'KeyserSoze' is 0% lame, KeyserSoze |
| 21:15:24 | KeyserSoze | is anyone on the picogui mailing list? |
| 21:15:25 | fragglet | PicoBot: nickometer PiCoBoT |
| 21:15:25 | PicoBot | 'PiCoBoT' is 99.9062% lame, fragglet |
| 21:15:48 | KeyserSoze | i mean, is it a useful and used way of keeping up-to-date on the goings on in picogui develpment? |
| 21:15:50 | gonkulator | PicoBot: eat poo |
| 21:15:50 | scan[pg] | KeyserSoze: about 100 people |
| 21:15:50 | PicoBot | munches or something |
| 21:16:08 | KeyserSoze | damn, 100?!? |
| 21:16:10 | | PicoBot: beat it, nerd-bot |
| 21:16:10 | darth_balls | ibot: emulate bun-bun |
| 21:16:32 | merlin262 | PicoBot: die |
| 21:16:32 | PicoBot | dies |
| 21:16:37 | merlin262 | w00ty |
| 21:16:43 | darth_balls | is sad |
| 21:16:46 | gonkulator | w00ty? |
| 21:16:50 | gonkulator | kills merlin262 |
| 21:16:56 | merlin262 | PicoBot: live |
| 21:16:57 | PicoBot | merlin262: huh? |
| 21:17:10 | gonkulator | rehubbing :) |
| 21:17:11 | gonkulator | lol |
| 21:18:04 | fragglet | http://klerck.org/food/ |
| 21:18:38 | scan[pg] | hmm |
| 21:19:37 | file[laptop] | I've a question |
| 21:20:29 | scanline | oh smegging nuts.. another segfault |
| 21:20:50 | KeyserSoze | has an answer, but unfortuneatly, it is to a different question |
| 21:21:21 | merlin262 | answer to what? |
| 21:21:43 | KeyserSoze | merlin262: not file's question. |
| 21:21:52 | merlin262 | kicks rehubbing |
| 21:22:07 | merlin262 | ???? |
| 21:22:08 | merlin262 | blehh |
| 21:22:22 | file[laptop] | how hard would it be to convert an ISA module for Linux over to a PCMCIA module? |
| 21:22:51 | merlin262 | go to #kernel, lol |
| 21:23:02 | file[laptop] | ponders |
| 21:23:15 | KeyserSoze | file[laptop]: it'd be easier to just get a PCMCIA equivalent of your ISA card, then to try to put your ISA card in a PCMCIA slot. |
| 21:23:18 | merlin262 | no, #linxudev, erm, ... |
| 21:23:25 | scanline | #kernelnewbies |
| 21:23:33 | merlin262 | ah, scanline knows it |
| 21:23:45 | file[laptop] | KeyserSoze: huh? |
| 21:24:00 | scanline | hehe, file[laptop] is impervious to KeyserSoze's humor! |
| 21:24:31 | KeyserSoze | subscribes to the picogui mailing list. |
| 21:24:51 | KeyserSoze | file[laptop]: do you know how to solder? |
| 21:24:56 | gonkulator | is tired again |
| 21:25:06 | scanline | KeyserSoze: there's not a lot of traffic on it unfortunately, since I'm the only one doing real development on it at the moment |
| 21:25:07 | gonkulator | needs sleep |
| 21:25:12 | KeyserSoze | redbull >> gonkulator |
| 21:25:49 | file[laptop] | KeyserSoze: :p |
| 21:26:08 | merlin262 | needs 48 hour days |
| 21:28:46 | KeyserSoze | wants an ebuild for the picogui development environment |
| 21:30:06 | KeyserSoze | wants sloppy joes |
| 21:30:12 | KeyserSoze | or maybe grilled cheese |
| 21:30:58 | fragglet | pizza sandwich! |
| 21:31:35 | KeyserSoze | fragglet: is that two pieces of pizza stuck together messy sides in? |
| 21:31:40 | KeyserSoze | or something else? |
| 21:31:49 | scanline | had some "pizza" for lunch today |
| 21:34:08 | merlin262 | apt-get install pepsi |
| 21:34:09 | fragglet | no |
| 21:34:21 | merlin262 | package pepsi requires funds |
| 21:34:24 | merlin262 | apt-get install funds |
| 21:34:27 | fragglet | toasted sandwich with cheese etc on the inside |
| 21:34:38 | merlin262 | error: funds exists in package database but is could not be found |
| 21:35:44 | merlin262 | carpman: hacking on aof, or is that resierved for classtiem? |
| 21:35:49 | KeyserSoze | emerge -p sloppy-joe |
| 21:36:11 | KeyserSoze | These are the packages that I would merge, in order. |
| 21:36:11 | KeyserSoze | Calculating dependencies ...done! |
| 21:36:11 | KeyserSoze | [ebuild N ] groundbeef |
| 21:36:23 | carpman | merlin262: hmm? am I working on it? |
| 21:36:26 | KeyserSoze | [ebuild N ] fryingpan |
| 21:36:35 | merlin262 | carpman: yea |
| 21:36:59 | carpman | merlin262: I have. check out http://www.voidptr.org/exp/site/images.php?img=voidptr_logo |
| 21:37:23 | carpman | that image is not a file, but stored in an AoF server, and pushed to the client directly. |
| 21:37:38 | merlin262 | kewl! |
| 21:38:00 | merlin262 | my pkg manager can now read/write packages, and has support for package drivers |
| 21:38:05 | carpman | merlin262: soon I will be able to do the same thing with anything. mp3s included >:) |
| 21:38:07 | merlin262 | s/packages/packets/ |
| 21:38:21 | KeyserSoze | should have said "[ebuild N ] ingredients/groundbeef to /" |
| 21:38:30 | merlin262 | the only problem is, there are no packet drivers |
| 21:38:46 | KeyserSoze | and also "[ebuild N ] kitchentools/fryingpan to /" |
| 21:39:09 | carpman | just calls cook.sh |
| 21:39:51 | carpman | cook.sh is just a script to call /usr/bin/order and /usr/bin/devour :) |
| 21:39:54 | merlin262 | writes a script to convert ebuild files to package descriptions |
| 21:39:57 | merlin262 | mwahahahahhahaha |
| 21:40:04 | KeyserSoze | ./sophie.sh --get me food, woman! |
| 21:40:27 | merlin262 | [sophie.sh] Error: Get your own food jerk. |
| 21:40:38 | darth_balls | lol |
| 21:40:42 | carpman | [sophie.sh] Error: *slap* |
| 21:41:01 | merlin262 | lol |
| 21:41:50 | KeyserSoze | keysersoze --cooksloppyjoes >> sophie |
| 21:42:13 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 21:43:50 | scanline | cd sloppyjoes-1.0; ./configure --with-bbq-sauce |
| 21:44:07 | carpman | --with-pickles |
| 21:44:48 | merlin262 | it occurs to me, i could modify the package manager just slightly, to support source based packages |
| 21:45:34 | scanline | yep |
| 21:46:14 | merlin262 | hugs his fiendishly clever design. |
| 21:49:53 | file[laptop] | mmm |
| 21:50:14 | KeyserSoze | crap, I forgot the pickles! |
| 21:50:20 | KeyserSoze | goes to the pickle store |
| 21:57:05 | KeyserSoze | I have a directory called "pgui-dev200020105", and in it are "apps", "cli_c", "doc", "pgserver", and "themetools". What did I do to get that originally, and how do I get a new one? |
| 21:57:11 | KeyserSoze | something to do with CVS? |
| 21:58:08 | scanline | that was a daily snapshot |
| 21:58:47 | KeyserSoze | is a daily snapshot a good thing to have, today? or should I get something else? |
| 21:58:52 | KeyserSoze | like a release. |
| 21:58:59 | scanline | there's no release yet |
| 21:59:16 | KeyserSoze | found a .tar.bz2 of the latest daily snapshot! |
| 21:59:21 | scanline | you can check picogui out of CVS, which is recommended since it's easy to keep up to date, or you can download a snapshot tarball |
| 21:59:59 | KeyserSoze | can I check the whole shebang out of CVS in one fell swoop? |
| 22:01:05 | file[laptop] | hrmph |
| 22:01:13 | file[laptop] | I might be able to force my wireless NIC into 2mbps operation |
| 22:01:20 | scanline | KeyserSoze: yes, lalo made a macro so you can use the module "picogui" to get it all |
| 22:01:36 | KeyserSoze | ah, excellent! |
| 22:02:09 | KeyserSoze | wonders who is more annoying to scanline, file or KeyserSoze |
| 22:02:48 | file[laptop] | me! |
| 22:03:49 | KeyserSoze | agrees, but thinks he is serious competition :) |
| 22:04:12 | scanline | nah, if anything the competition is between file and Xentac |
| 22:04:25 | darth_balls | haha |
| 22:04:37 | | Xentac was last seen on #picogui 2 hours, 30 minutes and 24 seconds ago, saying: is away: cleaning and probably being beaten up [Sun Oct 27 12:34:13 2002] |
| 22:04:37 | KeyserSoze | ibot: seen Xentac? |
| 22:05:18 | darth_balls | scanline: you mean you don't find my constant sluggy babble obnoxious? or just not as obnoxious ^_^ |
| 22:06:45 | KeyserSoze | wonders what "^" are for. |
| 22:06:55 | KeyserSoze | sees DevGirl use them, too. |
| 22:07:09 | scanline | nah |
| 22:09:28 | carpman | is away: at the maul |
| 22:10:02 | darth_balls | KeyserSoze: they are eyes |
| 22:10:12 | darth_balls | my understanding is that that is an anime smiley |
| 22:10:16 | KeyserSoze | really? |
| 22:10:22 | darth_balls | ya |
| 22:10:37 | darth_balls | KeyserSoze: do you watch a lot of anime? |
| 22:10:46 | KeyserSoze | oh, a smiley. i thought you meant eyes plucked from someone's head, and lieing on the line of text |
| 22:10:51 | KeyserSoze | doesn't watch any anime |
| 22:10:55 | darth_balls | oh |
| 22:11:07 | darth_balls | that's part of the problem, it's easier to see if you've watched anime |
| 22:11:24 | darth_balls | a lot of the females in anime close their eyes when they smile, and it looks kinda like that |
| 22:11:48 | KeyserSoze | ooh, I can see it now. |
| 22:11:54 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 22:12:16 | KeyserSoze | is the "_" a mouth? |
| 22:12:36 | KeyserSoze | ^:^ |
| 22:12:41 | KeyserSoze | ^.^ |
| 22:12:45 | KeyserSoze | ^o^ |
| 22:15:05 | file[laptop] | ponders some more |
| 22:15:13 | file[laptop] | I must do my homework and then ponder |
| 22:16:26 | KeyserSoze | file[laptop]: while you're up, can you get me some sweet pickles? |
| 22:17:43 | KeyserSoze | emerges cvs. |
| 22:19:49 | FraggedByNature | dithers |
| 22:20:08 | scanline | captain_proton: what are you dithering at this hour? |
| 22:20:18 | captain_proton | scanline: a sandwich |
| 22:21:22 | file[laptop] | KeyserSoze: no |
| 22:21:27 | file[laptop] | KeyserSoze: get your pickles! |
| 22:29:17 | scanline | becomes terrified of his latest creation |
| 22:29:43 | captain_proton | scanline: by god, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? |
| 22:29:51 | scanline | this coffee is STRONG! |
| 22:29:56 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 22:30:22 | scanline | whee! |
| 22:32:06 | merlin262 | modifies the main portion of his pkg mgr to pass through a lint check |
| 22:32:18 | scanline | There be gnomes in this here code! |
| 22:32:19 | merlin262 | modifies lint flags to cause it to pass. |
| 22:32:29 | merlin262 | w00t, all done. |
| 22:32:35 | merlin262 | >:) |
| 22:32:46 | scanline | yay |
| 22:33:04 | merlin262 | is paranoid about pkgs that run as root |
| 22:33:05 | scanline | decides whether to fix some multiparagraph-related bugs in textbox, or implement some font rendering flags for it |
| 22:33:10 | merlin262 | I don't want to make an outlook |
| 22:33:14 | scanline | merlin262: as well you should be |
| 22:33:47 | scanline | hmm... one of these days we'll need to have a big security audit on pgserver |
| 22:34:09 | merlin262 | yea |
| 22:34:14 | merlin262 | will help w/ that. :) |
| 22:34:20 | scanline | normally it can run under a user that only has access to the framebuffer, tty, and IPC mechanisms, but for some video drivers it will need root priveliges |
| 22:34:22 | scanline | cool |
| 22:34:27 | merlin262 | my main goal w/ the pkg mgr is to not need a big security audit |
| 22:34:57 | scanline | nods |
| 22:37:22 | scanline | I'm pretty careful about things like buffer overflows, but pgserver could use some work on defining useful security policies |
| 22:37:51 | captain_proton | security policy 1: don't leave the door unlocked |
| 22:38:16 | captain_proton | security policy B: open windows are an invitation |
| 22:39:06 | scanline | or even things like "This string is a passoword, it shouldn't be rendered onscreen" |
| 22:39:40 | merlin262 | I noticed that |
| 22:39:41 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 22:39:50 | merlin262 | in the login application |
| 22:40:09 | scanline | actually, there should be a way to mark sensitive information so it is destroyed permanently instead of just freed... so that some later app won't get a password as part of a new bitmap it allocates |
| 22:40:24 | scanline | merlin262: oh, that's because I haven't implemented the PG_WP_PASSWORD property in textbox yet |
| 22:40:38 | merlin262 | 14230 bytes so far written in my pkg manager |
| 22:40:43 | merlin262 | a lot of that is comments tho |
| 22:41:00 | scanline | apt-get install sloccount |
| 22:41:21 | scanline | it will count lines of code, minus comments and such.... also amusing to see how much the author's algorithm thinks your code is worth :) |
| 22:41:36 | scanline | for pgserver: |
| 22:41:42 | scanline | Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 59,012 |
| 22:41:45 | scanline | Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule) = 9.79 |
| 22:41:46 | scanline | Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 1,954,920 |
| 22:41:48 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:42:43 | KeyserSoze | damn, that's pretty good. |
| 22:42:46 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 22:43:13 | merlin262 | Apparently, SDL Sasteroids is worth 81,737 |
| 22:43:34 | scanline | There are a lot of comments it must be ignoring, since: |
| 22:43:39 | scanline | wc -l `find -name "*.c" -o -name "*.h"` |
| 22:43:41 | scanline | 80853 total |
| 22:43:43 | KeyserSoze | no ebuild for sloccount :( |
| 22:44:20 | merlin262 | $ 253,847 <-- how much my old toolkit is worth |
| 22:44:22 | merlin262 | roflol |
| 22:44:51 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:45:13 | merlin262 | thinks this could provide some definate amusement |
| 22:45:47 | merlin262 | runs a check on the linux kernel. |
| 22:47:53 | merlin262 | 410 loc worth $10,594?? |
| 22:47:58 | merlin262 | thinks sloccount == stupid count |
| 22:48:51 | scanline | nods |
| 22:50:03 | merlin262 | puts down package manager, switches to pgserver |
| 22:51:55 | merlin262 | scanline: how many people other than you understand pgserver? |
| 22:52:07 | scanline | depends on what you mean by understand... |
| 22:52:21 | scanline | there are a few other people that have worked on it, but I'm probably the only one that understands the whole thing |
| 22:54:00 | captain_proton | has cheese |
| 22:55:43 | merlin262 | writes a tga file loader |
| 22:55:51 | scanline | hehe |
| 22:56:05 | merlin262 | == looking at structure now |
| 22:56:28 | captain_proton | tga is simple |
| 22:56:42 | merlin262 | yes ondeedy |
| 22:57:03 | captain_proton | scanline: i'm progressing deeper and deeper into the depths of insanity |
| 22:59:31 | scanline | yep. tga would be good for situations where you need alpha but don't want libpng |
| 22:59:49 | scanline | merlin262: I should give you CVS access |
| 23:00:02 | scanline | captain_proton: oh no, you're watching some of that 50s sci-fi again aren't you |
| 23:00:06 | merlin262 | let me write some code first! |
| 23:00:07 | merlin262 | =D |
| 23:00:09 | captain_proton | scanline: no |
| 23:00:24 | captain_proton | its starting to look like actually building ide-firewire bridges is going to be the cheapest option :) |
| 23:00:36 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:00:44 | scanline | merlin262: bah, that's not my style ;) |
| 23:01:25 | merlin262 | ponders using imlib2 + other stuffs for an accellerated X driver |
| 23:01:38 | file[laptop] | what's the chemical formula for nickel carbonate? |
| 23:01:59 | merlin262 | I'd like to know WTF is up w/ Rasterman |
| 23:02:04 | scanline | merlin262: what would the benefit of imlib2 be? |
| 23:02:23 | scanline | merlin262: how so? I talked to him a few weeks ago, seemed alright :) |
| 23:02:42 | merlin262 | Constant changes to code, and impossibly hard to compile stuffs. |
| 23:02:52 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:02:54 | merlin262 | No release of Enlightenment sense..... |
| 23:02:55 | merlin262 | erm.... |
| 23:02:59 | merlin262 | 2+ years? |
| 23:03:36 | scanline | hehe... sounds a bit like me. Only reason pgserver has a somewhat sane build system is because of Frederic's work |
| 23:03:39 | merlin262 | scanline: imlib2/E libraries would allow the creation of an accellerate X server, without having to manage everything our self. |
| 23:03:57 | scanline | merlin262: I haven't done much with imlib.. what sort of rendering is it capable of? |
| 23:04:01 | file[laptop] | scanline: somewhat sane... haha |
| 23:04:02 | darth_balls | is away: coffee break |
| 23:04:18 | merlin262 | scanline: just about everything |
| 23:04:44 | scanline | merlin262: hmm |
| 23:04:49 | scanline | looks up some imlib2 docs |
| 23:05:17 | scanline | wow! |
| 23:05:32 | merlin262 | It's some cool stuff, but no release |
| 23:05:34 | merlin262 | just CVS |
| 23:05:39 | scanline | that looks like exactly the feature set picogui needs |
| 23:05:53 | merlin262 | yep |
| 23:05:58 | scanline | you could make input, video, file format, and font plugins all based on it |
| 23:06:08 | scanline | spiffy |
| 23:06:34 | scanline | CVS-only isn't a problem for me |
| 23:06:50 | scanline | picogui already almost requires the use of freetype from CVS |
| 23:07:02 | merlin262 | which is blehhh. :mad: |
| 23:07:12 | merlin262 | likes production software. |
| 23:07:43 | scanline | I'm sure imlib2 and freetype will be 'production' before picogui itself is |
| 23:07:51 | merlin262 | *** ERROR (BADPARAM) : All installed application managers failed to load |
| 23:08:06 | merlin262 | wants his distro for Next Christmas/Winter break! |
| 23:08:06 | scanline | compile in an app manager |
| 23:08:28 | scanline | merlin262: you don't think imlib2 will be ready by then? |
| 23:08:45 | merlin262 | perhaps |
| 23:09:12 | scanline | besides, if it's your own distro there's no problem taking a CVS snapshot and packaging that |
| 23:09:14 | merlin262 | is worried Raster's stuff might have the development cycle of Duke Nukem Forever |
| 23:09:25 | scanline | so send him an email to ask |
| 23:09:25 | merlin262 | hmmmm... tr00 tr000 |
| 23:10:29 | merlin262 | scanline: what's this new app manager stuff? |
| 23:11:05 | scanline | The code to manage application registration is modular now. The "panel" app manager is the traditional style, "managed_rootless" is what the x11 rootless driver will use |
| 23:11:22 | merlin262 | does it work? |
| 23:11:28 | scanline | I don't know |
| 23:11:33 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 23:11:40 | captain_proton | is grinning like a bastage though |
| 23:11:43 | captain_proton | err |
| 23:11:44 | scanline | it should handle normal apps fine, that code is really simple |
| 23:11:48 | captain_proton | nevermind that, wrong tab |
| 23:11:54 | scanline | there's no code for handling popups yet |
| 23:12:57 | merlin262 | downloads latest CVS snapshot and clear off old stuff |
| 23:13:10 | merlin262 | I think my system is getting crufty |
| 23:13:14 | merlin262 | has a strong desire to redo it |
| 23:14:25 | scanline | merlin262: debian has an imlib2 package |
| 23:14:35 | merlin262 | kewl. |
| 23:14:48 | scanline | if debian has a package for it, that is a good metric of good-enough-ness |
| 23:15:05 | merlin262 | tr00, tr00 |
| 23:15:21 | scanline | wasn't that a win32 worm? |
| 23:18:38 | merlin262 | tr00? |
| 23:18:40 | merlin262 | hmm... |
| 23:18:49 | file[laptop] | Unknown. |
| 23:18:59 | scanline | never mind |
| 23:23:03 | merlin262 | goes for food |
| 23:23:04 | merlin262 | bbiab |
| 23:40:15 | Xentac | is back (gone 04:06:02) |
| 23:40:24 | Xentac | woohoo, I'm as annoying as file is! |
| 23:41:38 | Xentac | decides to go and sulk in the wet room |
| 23:42:05 | You_TOO | so I can be a PicoGUI developer |
| 23:42:27 | You_TOO | how can I get started? |
| 23:42:28 | scanline | uh huh... |
| 23:42:37 | You_TOO | thought it would be funny |
| 23:42:40 | scanline | tosses some RTFSC darts at gonkulator{lost} |
| 23:42:51 | You_TOO | is pretty lost too |
| 23:47:03 | file[laptop] | :) |
| 23:47:23 | fragglet | argh |
| 23:47:30 | file[laptop] | what |
| 23:47:33 | fragglet | i was almost done emerging the latest version of xfree |
| 23:47:38 | fragglet | and the terminal died |
| 23:47:41 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 23:47:52 | file[laptop] | what caused it? |
| 23:48:04 | fragglet | i'm not exactly sure |
| 23:48:21 | file[laptop] | well my present hasn't started to move again yet |
| 23:48:53 | file[laptop] | *sigh* oh well |
| 23:49:00 | file[laptop] | gah it's too early |
| 23:49:57 | Xentac | scanline: dude, if I'm that annoying just say it... and I'm gone |
| 23:50:28 | fragglet | ? |
| 23:50:41 | file[laptop] | darn this TV Guide... |
| 23:51:09 | KeyserSoze | didn't think scanline was too serious about it. |
| 23:51:24 | KeyserSoze | after all, how would someone (except maybe file) be more annoying than me? |
| 23:51:35 | Xentac | easy, they could be me |
| 23:51:42 | file[laptop] | don't make me make it a point to be more annoying than you KeyserSoze! |
| 23:52:39 | Xentac | how is KeyserSoze annoying? |
| 23:52:40 | file[laptop] | so everybody remembered to set their clocks back an hour? |
| 23:53:19 | Xentac | me, I'm annoying because I just hang around... I don't contribute anything... I rarely stay on topic... I talk about things that no one else cares about... I'm just generally the odd guy out |
| 23:53:23 | KeyserSoze | is annoying by constantly whining about not being able to get stuff to work on his linux box. |
| 23:53:33 | KeyserSoze | is always off topic. |
| 23:53:36 | fragglet | thats ok, nobody is on topic here anyway |
| 23:53:55 | KeyserSoze | started writing a picogui app about a year ago, and hasn't touched it in 6 months. |
| 23:54:08 | file[laptop] | whines till he actually gets stuff |
| 23:54:20 | file[laptop] | Xentac: that reminds me - how's that old digital camera? |
| 23:54:21 | KeyserSoze | file[laptop]: how's that working out for you? |
| 23:54:22 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: check this out... |
| 23:54:29 | Xentac | PicoBot: Xentac? |
| 23:54:30 | PicoBot | it has been said that Xentac is cool, and he has a cool hat... and stuff... mmmkay? or going to be having visitors in a week or obsessed with "boobies" or never written a picogui app... ever! or too big for his pants. or a happy drunk |
| 23:54:38 | Xentac | "or never written a picogui app... ever!" |
| 23:54:44 | gonkulator | PicoBot: attract girls |
| 23:54:45 | PicoBot | walks around with a cucumber in his crotch |
| 23:54:48 | KeyserSoze | PicoBot: KeyserSoze? |
| 23:54:48 | PicoBot | KeyserSoze is just a love machine, and he don't work for nobody but Sophie |
| 23:54:50 | Xentac | file[laptop]: still sitting here |
| 23:55:02 | file[laptop] | Xentac: good - I might want it... sometime |
| 23:55:07 | KeyserSoze | lol. i didn't think there'd be one for me. |
| 23:55:10 | Xentac | sure |
| 23:55:16 | file[laptop] | Xentac: what is it again? |
| 23:55:41 | file[laptop] | goes to look for drivers for no reason (he's really really really bored) |
| 23:55:44 | KeyserSoze | Xentac: what visitors in a week? |
| 23:56:07 | file[laptop] | KeyserSoze: that was from when scanline and gonkulator were going to visit him |
| 23:56:23 | KeyserSoze | ah, ought to be changed, then. |
| 23:56:28 | Xentac | visitors...? huh? |
| 23:56:34 | file[laptop] | yeah well we're lazy |
| 23:56:37 | Xentac | ah... yeah... that was a while ago... |
| 23:56:45 | file[laptop] | Xentac: now tell me the name of the camera |
| 23:56:51 | file[laptop] | hypnotizes Xentac |
| 23:56:59 | Xentac | Fun!Flash |
| 23:57:49 | Xentac | anyway... I have errands to make and family to visit with.. |
| 23:57:55 | file[laptop] | good good |
| 23:57:57 | Xentac | so you don't have to worry about my annoyingness for a while |
| 23:59:02 | KeyserSoze | Xentac: don't worry, I'll annoy everyone in your absence :) |
| 23:59:12 | Xentac | is away: gone... and no longer annoying anyone |
