| 01:43.59 | merlin262 | PicoBot: die |
| 01:44.03 | merlin262 | PicoBot: die die |
| 01:44.04 | PicoBot | merlin262: what? |
| 01:44.06 | merlin262 | PicoBot: die die die |
| 01:44.06 | PicoBot | merlin262: i'm not following you... |
| 01:44.10 | merlin262 | PicoBot: DIE! |
| 01:44.27 | merlin262 | PicoBot: spaceballs |
| 01:44.27 | PicoBot | Great, I'm surrounded by assholes. |
| 01:59.41 | merlin262 | kewl. |
| 01:59.55 | merlin262 | sooo fecking much HW this past couple weeks |
| 01:59.57 | merlin262 | it's really sucked. :( |
| 02:00.09 | merlin262 | Blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 02:14.55 | scanline | good luck |
| 03:35.01 | scanline | w00t! |
| 03:37.17 | scan[rootless] | mwahahaha! |
| 03:38.50 | scanline | now I just need to fix up x11input so it can pass events to the right window |
| 03:39.01 | scanline | then a little widget hacking so popups work right |
| 04:30.14 | file | bah |
| 06:54.29 | scan[rootless] | hi lalo |
| 06:56.42 | lalo | hi scan |
| 06:56.46 | lalo | rootless are you? |
| 06:57.00 | scan[rootless] | indeed! I'm uploading a screenshot now =) |
| 06:57.30 | lalo | seem the site? |
| 06:57.36 | lalo | s/seem/seen/g |
| 06:57.48 | scan[rootless] | yep |
| 06:58.07 | scan[rootless] | IMHO the titlebar running vertically across the news is a bit disconcerting |
| 06:58.27 | scan[rootless] | The spacing of the left column also occasionally gets funky |
| 06:58.31 | scan[rootless] | other than that, looks great |
| 07:00.06 | scan[rootless] | screenshot is up |
| 07:00.37 | scan[rootless] | hmm.. small focus bug |
| 07:03.51 | scan[rootless] | hi DevGirl |
| 07:03.53 | DevGirl | hi! |
| 07:04.04 | DevGirl | hello, boys :) |
| 07:04.13 | DevGirl | goooooood morning |
| 07:04.16 | DevGirl | :) |
| 07:04.18 | lalo | well, the vertical titlebar is true to picogui ;-) |
| 07:04.41 | lalo | it may seem odd for someone who didn't use it yet, but when they download and try it out, they'll go "ah." |
| 07:05.12 | scan[rootless] | lalo: true.. but it gets weird since the web page is taller than the screen usually, so you won't see the whole panelbar |
| 07:05.45 | lalo | true. |
| 07:06.06 | lalo | I was planning a small css trick - making the main "window" itself scrolled |
| 07:06.31 | lalo | but it has one downside... the left column already fills more than one screen even on 1024, so it won't have as strong an effect |
| 07:06.35 | scan[rootless] | that could be neat |
| 07:06.47 | lalo | I'll make it work now just to show it off :-) |
| 07:07.02 | scan[rootless] | hehebbiab |
| 07:09.17 | scanline | hmm.... |
| 07:09.25 | scanline | I think that little netsplit wedged xchat-picogui |
| 07:09.26 | Xentac | hmmm |
| 07:09.27 | Xentac | ? |
| 07:09.58 | scanline | I had something scrolling in a pterm, and since this driver is still really slow at antialiased text it was making it hard to type |
| 07:10.06 | scanline | anyway... breakfast |
| 07:12.52 | lalo | hmm |
| 07:13.06 | lalo | not as easy as I thought (but exactly because of the reason I thought |
| 07:30.18 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: oh |
| 07:30.22 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: my |
| 07:30.22 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: word |
| 07:30.52 | carpman{sasami} | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 07:30.53 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 20 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying: anyway... breakfast [Mon Nov 4 07:11:53 2002] |
| 07:32.53 | scanline | hi carpman{sasami} |
| 07:33.06 | carpman{sasami} | hey scanline |
| 07:33.11 | carpman{sasami} | thats awesome |
| 07:33.18 | scanline | indeed |
| 07:33.53 | Xentac | what does rootless mean...? |
| 07:34.01 | scanline | Xentac: take a look at the latest screenshot |
| 07:34.23 | scanline | Xentac: instead of one window containing all the picogui apps, each app can exist in its own window |
| 07:34.30 | carpman{sasami} | Xentac: use the bathroom and sit down first |
| 07:34.40 | Xentac | carpman{sasami}: hehehe... I just got back from there ;o) |
| 07:34.41 | scanline | haha |
| 07:34.57 | Xentac | scanline: that's seriously sweet |
| 07:35.08 | scanline | you might notice that in that screenshot none of the windows have close buttons :) |
| 07:35.17 | scanline | haven't even started on the WM hints and such |
| 07:35.19 | carpman{sasami} | GTK will be obsolete in the new order. |
| 07:35.25 | scanline | popups don't quite work at all yet... |
| 07:35.28 | scanline | but it's definitely a start |
| 07:36.02 | Xentac | now... can you still use the non-overlapping single window (or single floating window) setup? |
| 07:36.11 | scanline | sure |
| 07:36.23 | scanline | the same driver handles both configurations (rootless and monolithic) |
| 07:36.35 | scanline | it's just a matter of how the driver is used |
| 07:36.46 | scanline | in practise you'd switch between the setups by selecting an application manager |
| 07:36.57 | scanline | the normal app manager is "panel", there's a new one called "managed_rootless" |
| 07:37.06 | Xentac | ah, but right now there's no interface to choose which one you want to use? |
| 07:37.19 | scanline | pgserver --appmgr=managed_rootless |
| 07:37.26 | scanline | part of the usual pgserver config system |
| 07:37.46 | Xentac | ah |
| 07:38.45 | Xentac | wait a second... these are picogui apps running inside of X? as in the windows are mangaged by the window manager? |
| 07:38.53 | scanline | yes |
| 07:39.01 | scanline | that's fluxbox in the screenshot |
| 07:39.10 | Xentac | ah... that is very sweet |
| 07:39.13 | scanline | :) |
| 07:39.17 | Xentac | :) |
| 07:39.32 | carpman{sasami} | :) |
| 07:41.01 | Xentac | so... rootless picogui helps how? it's not exactly an embedded systems goal... is it more of a general consumption goal? |
| 07:41.04 | carpman{sasami} | background widget? |
| 07:41.33 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: the background widget is still compiled in to pgserver, but it never gets instantiated by the app manager. You could even disable it at compile time if you want |
| 07:41.57 | scanline | Xentac: remember my goal of scalability? This is so you can write apps that run on the desktop, the helio, the zaurus, or whatever.. and have them all run equally well |
| 07:42.14 | carpman{sasami} | textbox or textedit? |
| 07:42.37 | Xentac | scanline: right... |
| 07:42.39 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: probably textbox... last time I tried textedit it segfaulted :) |
| 07:42.56 | carpman{sasami} | ah, ok :) |
| 07:43.17 | carpman{sasami} | libpgserver? |
| 07:43.21 | Xentac | picogui becomes less of a window/graphics server and more of an interface to give the user information.. over any medium |
| 07:43.22 | carpman{sasami} | wow, lots of new stuff. |
| 07:43.23 | lalo | hmm |
| 07:43.47 | carpman{sasami} | morning lalo |
| 07:43.47 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: there's no use for libpgserver yet, but that option will compile almost all of pgserver as a shared library |
| 07:43.47 | lalo | just occurred to me that this will allow me to switch from xemacs to nifty as I write it ;-) |
| 07:43.52 | lalo | morning carpman, xentac |
| 07:43.56 | scanline | lalo: indeed |
| 07:43.57 | Xentac | morning lalo |
| 07:45.42 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: btw, you are m4d, m4d I say :) |
| 07:45.42 | lalo | scanline: had an idea in bath again |
| 07:45.51 | lalo | drive the textbox via appmsg |
| 07:46.31 | scanline | lalo: appmsg? wouldn't writeto (like canvas uses) be more applicable? |
| 07:47.33 | lalo | yes |
| 07:47.42 | lalo | I didn't know writeto :-) |
| 07:47.48 | lalo | in this case, s/appmsg/writeto/ |
| 07:47.58 | scanline | ok |
| 07:48.34 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: I just fired off some quick instructions to pgui-devel |
| 07:48.45 | carpman{sasami} | k |
| 07:48.55 | lalo | there's no need to run a "niftyserver"... it can receive stuff via appmsg |
| 07:49.06 | lalo | scanline: I love your architecture :-) |
| 07:49.12 | scanline | hehe :) |
| 07:49.14 | scanline | me too |
| 07:49.50 | scanline | Maybe now that I've laid the groundwork I can get merlin262 to poke around optimizing the Xlib code >:) |
| 07:50.33 | scanline | As it stands now, some things (rectangle fills, big bitmaps, lines) are extremely fast, other things (tiled bitmaps) are mediocre, and anything involving alpha blendign or blurring is horrendously slow and/or segfaults |
| 07:51.03 | scanline | the alpha blending can be speeded up using XRENDER, the tiling can be done with normal Xlib commands |
| 07:51.17 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: what happens if you try to do the full screen blur thing in the rootless driver? |
| 07:51.39 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: I think it will work, but you might want to go get a cup of coffee between each frame |
| 07:51.51 | carpman{sasami} | lol |
| 07:52.09 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: any default primitives, especially ones that rely on getpixel() will be terribly slow |
| 07:52.36 | carpman{sasami} | yeah |
| 07:53.14 | scanline | I couldn't find a better way to implement x11_getpixel() than to use an XGetImage... which means allocating a bitmap, transferring it over a socket, getting the pixel out of it, and deleting it, for EACH PIXEL |
| 07:53.31 | scanline | blending can be done with RENDER |
| 07:53.45 | scanline | things like blurring that X can't do a thing with can at least be done over SHM or something in the client |
| 07:54.14 | scanline | BTW, it's not implemented yet, but it should be possible to implement picogui's SHM bitmaps using X's SHM bitmaps... so you could run SDL or media_c apps rootless |
| 07:55.39 | scanline | lalo: when you have the /qui website running to your satisfaction, you should post something to pgui-devel to get more people to look at it :) |
| 07:58.55 | lalo | ok |
| 07:59.19 | lalo | I felt the people who come to irc are the first layer of approval ;-) |
| 07:59.26 | scanline | :) |
| 07:59.31 | lalo | have you seen it, carpman{sasami} and Xentac ? |
| 07:59.55 | carpman{sasami} | lalo: I just tried to go to it, but its b0rken |
| 07:59.58 | lalo | also, scanline, have you checked the sources of the site? how nifty it is to edit stuff? |
| 08:00.01 | lalo | carpman{sasami}: it is??? |
| 08:00.02 | merlin262 | bleep |
| 08:00.14 | scanline | merlin262: haha |
| 08:00.14 | carpman{sasami} | indeed |
| 08:00.19 | carpman{sasami} | morning merlin262 |
| 08:00.32 | merlin262 | i hate mornings |
| 08:00.41 | lalo | carpman{sasami}: it's working here |
| 08:00.59 | scanline | lalo: looks pretty straightforward (Though I don't know much about writing CSS) |
| 08:01.09 | carpman{sasami} | I get a page not found. |
| 08:01.13 | merlin262 | every day of my life, is worse than the previous day, which means that every day, is the worst day of my life. |
| 08:01.17 | scanline | works for me |
| 08:01.28 | scanline | merlin262: wow that's messed up |
| 08:01.33 | lalo | carpman{sasami}: then you must have pasted wrong |
| 08:01.43 | carpman{sasami} | oh, you have to put the / at the end, or it wont work |
| 08:01.53 | scanline | lalo: the left column is a lot wider than it needs to be |
| 08:01.57 | lalo | really? how fscked up :-) |
| 08:02.13 | lalo | I hate apache. |
| 08:02.22 | lalo | the wiki also had this bug, a few months ago |
| 08:02.45 | lalo | it still has, actually |
| 08:03.11 | lalo | carpman{sasami}: indeed |
| 08:03.26 | merlin262 | you know, they better start treating their programmers better, I could write a virus that would rip millions of the place. |
| 08:04.06 | carpman{sasami} | Damn this printer!!!!! |
| 08:04.19 | scanline | "PC Load Letter"? What the fuck does that mean? |
| 08:04.28 | Xentac | lalo: I haven't seen it yet... but I'll check it right now... |
| 08:04.36 | merlin262 | =D |
| 08:06.14 | carpman{sasami} | merlin262: did you get the memo? |
| 08:06.19 | scanline | hmm... once I make the antialiased text in the x11 driver faster and fix some terminal emulation bugs, I could switch to pterm as my usual terminal :) |
| 08:06.46 | merlin262 | scanline: you'd need rootless support too |
| 08:06.47 | merlin262 | =D |
| 08:06.54 | scanline | merlin262: look at the topic |
| 08:08.00 | merlin262 | &$(&*@!*#(&@$#^*&^!*@&#(*!^@#*!^#*@!^*@#^%&!@%^#!@%&# |
| 08:08.23 | scanline | merlin262: don't worry, it has plenty of bugs for you to fix ;) |
| 08:08.41 | merlin262 | w00t |
| 08:08.50 | carpman{sasami} | rofl |
| 08:09.10 | Xentac | it seems sort of backwards when a programmer wants to find bugs... |
| 08:09.19 | Xentac | s #find#find/fix# |
| 08:09.35 | Xentac | wb lalo |
| 08:10.05 | scanline | lalo: DevGirl trip over a cat5? |
| 08:10.14 | merlin262 | off to school |
| 08:10.16 | merlin262 | see ya carpman{sasami} |
| 08:10.19 | merlin262 | =D |
| 08:10.22 | scanline | bye merlin262 |
| 08:10.31 | carpman{sasami} | bye merlin262 |
| 08:10.35 | Xentac | lalo: the new theme looks cool... except the top nav buttons (any one going to /qui) crash... is it supposed to? |
| 08:10.39 | Xentac | ta ta merlin262 |
| 08:10.46 | lalo | this time it was not devgirl :-) |
| 08:11.01 | Xentac | the one thing that the old theme has over the new one, is that it's darker ;o) |
| 08:11.06 | lalo | Xentac: not all links are fixed |
| 08:11.16 | Xentac | lalo: I figured as mcuh |
| 08:11.18 | lalo | some of them assume the site is "installed" (eg responding as /) |
| 08:11.21 | Xentac | er, much |
| 08:11.53 | lalo | I wanted to make it based on fluidity |
| 08:11.56 | Xentac | the other thing is that I find the left nav to be too large... it makes the news that much smaller (and longer) |
| 08:12.01 | lalo | but it would require quite some time :-) |
| 08:12.06 | Xentac | :) |
| 08:12.22 | lalo | Xentac: carpman said that already, I was trying to fix it when my connection crashed |
| 08:12.25 | Xentac | someone wanna refresh my memory as to what fluidity looks like? |
| 08:12.28 | Xentac | lalo: hehehe |
| 08:12.42 | lalo | I think my tramp broke :-/ |
| 08:12.44 | scanline | http://picogui.org/sshotdetail.php?index=88 <-- fluidity |
| 08:13.03 | Xentac | ah |
| 08:13.08 | Xentac | that would be cool |
| 08:13.28 | lalo | yup |
| 08:13.42 | lalo | if css knew how to make vertical text, it would be even better :-) |
| 08:14.00 | Xentac | lalo: hehehe, no doubt |
| 08:15.45 | scanline | uh oh, I'm getting more ideas... |
| 08:16.02 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: I won't tell merlin262 |
| 08:16.23 | scanline | hehe |
| 08:16.29 | Xentac | scanline: that was one of my original questions! |
| 08:16.30 | Xentac | ;o) |
| 08:16.38 | scanline | actually.. |
| 08:17.27 | scanline | hmm... it just sits there |
| 08:18.34 | scanline | ah |
| 08:19.49 | scanline | window sizing code needs some tinkering... |
| 08:26.22 | kergoth | morning |
| 08:26.29 | scanline | morning kergoth |
| 08:28.22 | carpman{sasami} | sup kergoth |
| 08:28.49 | scanline | hehe, now that's funky... |
| 08:28.51 | carpman{sasami} | explode, probably |
| 08:29.04 | scanline | nope |
| 08:29.52 | scanline | the way I implemented rootless input was actually really nice and clean, so it didn't break anything |
| 08:30.08 | scanline | I just added a divtree parameter to the mouse and keyboard triggers |
| 08:30.11 | carpman{sasami} | screenshot, screenshot |
| 08:30.20 | scanline | hmm.. I'll have to put it on a timer |
| 08:31.34 | scanline | http://picogui.org/download/x2pgui_rootless.png |
| 08:32.23 | scanline | since x2pgui leaves the divtree set to the default, it just pops up a couple of cursors on top of the most recently opened window :) |
| 08:32.53 | carpman{sasami} | hehe |
| 08:34.42 | scanline | but damn.. except for the slow parts, this driver is FAST |
| 08:34.46 | Xentac | woohoo I'm in the shower in that screenshot! |
| 08:35.07 | scanline | not the one I just took? |
| 08:35.22 | Xentac | in the x2pgui_rootless one... |
| 08:35.25 | Xentac | I was just getting out... |
| 08:35.29 | scanline | ahh, yes |
| 08:36.00 | scanline | that would probably make these NVidia drivers blow up... |
| 08:37.08 | scanline | holy what the hell... |
| 08:38.39 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: what? |
| 08:39.14 | scanline | for some reason there's an extra cursor on my terminal that's following the cursor in my scribble window |
| 08:39.15 | Xentac | scanline: hey... what about sdl, in rootless picogui, in X? |
| 08:39.39 | scanline | Xentac: as soon as I implement x11_mkshmbitmap that should work fine |
| 08:40.06 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 08:40.06 | Xentac | cool |
| 08:40.40 | Xentac | can you do text->picogui->x2pgui as well? |
| 08:40.59 | scanline | hrm? |
| 08:41.14 | Xentac | you know... the text output for picogui... |
| 08:41.15 | scanline | x2pgui is a remote input driver |
| 08:41.18 | Xentac | does it work like that...? |
| 08:41.18 | scanline | ah |
| 08:41.33 | scanline | You could, if pterm's terminal emulation was better |
| 08:41.56 | scanline | http://picogui.org/download/htdocs/rootless_scribble.png |
| 08:42.00 | Xentac | or is x2pgui an output driver in itself...? |
| 08:42.39 | scanline | I think you're confused about what x2pgui is |
| 08:42.45 | scanline | oh yeah, oops :) |
| 08:42.47 | Xentac | more than likely, yeah |
| 08:43.13 | scanline | x2pgui is a picogui port of x2vnc, it lets you move your mouse off the edge of an X display and onto a picogui window over the network |
| 08:43.24 | Xentac | ah |
| 08:43.29 | scanline | The rootless stuff is just part of the x11 video and input drivers in picogui |
| 08:43.33 | Xentac | so rootless is different than x2pgui |
| 08:43.38 | scanline | yes |
| 08:43.41 | Xentac | I understand now |
| 08:43.57 | carpman{sasami} | the rootless stuff is a function of scanline's insanity :) |
| 08:44.01 | Xentac | martian lovesong is on WOPN |
| 08:44.15 | carpman{sasami} | thats a good sing |
| 08:44.20 | carpman{sasami} | song |
| 08:44.51 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: I have been planning this for a while >:) |
| 09:14.08 | lalo | 'sup with the sf webserver? |
| 09:14.37 | scanline | hmmmm |
| 09:14.48 | scanline | well, it's broke here tpp |
| 09:14.50 | scanline | s/tpp/too/ |
| 09:14.56 | scanline | grrrrrr |
| 09:15.13 | lalo | sucks. |
| 09:16.44 | lalo | can't you do your homework in pgedit? ;-) |
| 09:16.55 | scanline | ah! good idea! |
| 09:26.01 | DevGirl | lalo: check jabber |
| 09:42.24 | scanline | wb carpman{sasami} |
| 09:42.37 | DevGirl | wb, carpman |
| 09:43.01 | carpman{sasami} | hey scanline and DevGirl |
| 09:43.17 | carpman{sasami} | They let me out of hell^d^d^d^dArt and Humanities class early. |
| 09:43.27 | carpman{sasami} | now, I get to wait for Calc. |
| 09:43.55 | scanline | fun |
| 09:44.18 | carpman{sasami} | scanline: have you done anything else to picogui? I want to mess with merlin262's head. |
| 09:44.56 | carpman{sasami} | Maybe I'll just tell him you fixed every known bug, and alpha runs as fast as rectangle fills now... |
| 09:45.24 | scanline | alpha on some architectures runs faster than rectangle fill on other architectures :) |
| 09:45.43 | carpman{sasami} | Every lie contains a grain of truth :) |
| 09:46.35 | scanline | carpman{sasami}: once I implement toolbar apps in the managed_rootless app manager, it will be possible to use the pgl toolbar like the gnome panel in X |
| 09:46.46 | carpman{sasami} | w00t! |
| 09:47.12 | carpman{sasami} | I will replace Enlightenment when that happens. I'll have incentive to make it cool since it will be my desktop. |
| 09:47.23 | carpman{sasami} | I'll be able to use my lazyness to my advantage. |
| 09:47.35 | scanline | hehe, I find it works that way with me... |
| 09:47.48 | carpman{sasami} | And then.... AoF integration!!! |
| 09:47.56 | scanline | My fonts in emacs, xchat-gtk, and mozilla look like crap, but I'll agonize over pixels and milliseconds when it comes to picogui |
| 09:48.06 | scanline | yay! |
| 09:48.41 | carpman{sasami} | pgFromAoF() >:) |
| 09:48.50 | carpman{sasami} | I could do that, quite easily |
| 09:48.50 | scanline | mwahaha! |
| 09:49.29 | scanline | hmm... combined with the textbox widget that could do some fun stuff |
| 09:49.43 | scanline | or themes... or even just buttons |
| 09:49.47 | scanline | :) |
| 09:49.48 | carpman{sasami} | it could plug into res_c just like the current config file parser does. |
| 09:50.08 | carpman{sasami} | well, class is starting, but I have puaruu. brb >:) |
| 09:52.39 | scanline | wb |
| 09:52.48 | carpman{puaruu} | love 802.11 |
| 09:52.54 | DevGirl | why puaruu? |
| 09:53.55 | carpman{puaruu} | puaruu is yamcha's flying, shape shifting, talking cat in dragonball z |
| 09:54.54 | DevGirl | aaaahhhhhh here he has other name :) |
| 09:55.02 | DevGirl | Puau |
| 09:56.20 | DevGirl | someone aired Dragon ball in US? |
| 09:56.46 | carpman{puaruu} | yeah, funimation, but they took alot out |
| 09:56.58 | carpman{puaruu} | its hyper censored |
| 09:57.54 | DevGirl | Dbz? |
| 09:58.05 | carpman{puaruu} | same thing |
| 09:58.27 | carpman{puaruu} | no gt yet |
| 09:58.48 | DevGirl | why censor db??? its so... whithout malice... |
| 09:59.09 | carpman{puaruu} | DevGirl: glitch marjin and i saw spirited away |
| 09:59.15 | DevGirl | they didn't censored db or dbz in brazil |
| 09:59.52 | carpman{puaruu} | they censored stuff like oolongs most comfortable cotton panties in the universe, etc... |
| 10:00.11 | DevGirl | so stupid :P |
| 10:00.47 | scanline | PicoBot: emulate kiki |
| 10:00.47 | PicoBot | sure, I will emulate in a... ooh, what is this? oooh, shiny! |
| 10:00.59 | DevGirl | cause the US one is soooooooo different from the original |
| 10:05.16 | DevGirl | someone once said me that DBZ is better than DB cause it don't has everything that sucks in DB, like humor, story and character development :) |
| 10:06.55 | Xentac[work] | DevGirl: hehehe |
| 10:08.01 | DevGirl | Xentac[work]: the worst thing in this is: I agree with him :) |
| 10:09.54 | Xentac[work] | you agree with the points... but not the overal comparison... |
| 10:11.41 | DevGirl | he was joking :) |
| 10:11.55 | Xentac[work] | ah |
| 10:12.04 | Xentac[work] | sarcasm is lots on text ;o) |
| 10:12.14 | DevGirl | :D |
| 10:13.07 | Xentac[work] | er, lost |
| 10:13.10 | Xentac[work] | scanline: thanks, I needed that |
| 10:17.14 | Xentac[work] | scanline: so... do you listen to WOPN much anymore? |
| 10:17.14 | scanline | not in a couple weeks |
| 10:18.05 | Xentac[work] | there's a new OJ... Bhaal |
| 10:18.09 | Xentac[work] | he's aussie |
| 10:18.36 | scanline | neat |
| 10:18.51 | Xentac[work] | the reason they gave him the job was because he had enough bandwidth (at the time) to download all the songs.. and they heard him playing around with a test stream |
| 10:19.08 | Xentac[work] | and I can't listen at work... and it's horrible! ;o) |
| 10:19.15 | Xentac[work] | I have to download old archives and listen to them... |
| 10:33.23 | Ahnkana | scanline: food? |
| 10:34.26 | DevGirl | Ahnkana: food? yay! |
| 10:34.55 | Ahnkana | DevGirl: if you weren't a continent away, i'd invite you to eat with me |
| 10:35.03 | Ahnkana | but that's a little far...lol |
| 10:35.22 | Ahnkana | lol |
| 10:35.56 | DevGirl[out] | :D |
| 10:35.57 | Ahnkana | ok, going to eat now, cya lata |
| 10:36.02 | DevGirl[out] | bye |
| 10:51.07 | DevGirl[out] | hi, darth_balls :) you saw the photos? |
| 10:51.43 | darth_balls | DevGirl[out]: hi, you mean the screenshots w/ overlapping windoze? |
| 10:52.09 | DevGirl[out] | nah :) the sluggy halloween costume photos :D |
| 10:52.12 | darth_balls | oh, no |
| 10:52.38 | DevGirl[out] | go and see :) it has a pretty girl dressed as kiki :D |
| 10:52.51 | DevGirl[out] | aooooo cute :D |
| 10:52.56 | DevGirl[out] | sooo |
| 10:53.08 | DevGirl[out] | PicoBot: emulate kiki |
| 10:53.08 | PicoBot | sure, I will emulate in a... ooh, what is this? oooh, shiny! |
| 10:53.54 | DevGirl[out] | oh! i'm out :) |
| 11:07.44 | DevGirl[out] | lalo[out]: can we go? |
| 11:09.55 | DevGirl[out] | lalo[out]: the rain stopped, let's go :D |
| 11:13.58 | darth_balls | wb DevGirl |
| 11:15.19 | darth_balls | I looked at the pics |
| 11:15.28 | darth_balls | that girl who played zoe was way hot |
| 11:17.14 | DevGirl | and that hair |
| 11:17.15 | carpman{sasami} | yay, last class of the day |
| 11:17.15 | darth_balls | morning carpman{sasami} |
| 11:17.25 | carpman{sasami} | After this I can go home an play Phantasy Star Online...errr...diligently work on pgl :) |
| 11:17.31 | DevGirl | :D |
| 11:17.33 | carpman{sasami} | hey darth_balls |
| 11:17.34 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 11:17.54 | Ahnkana | scanline? |
| 11:17.55 | darth_balls | I got so bored of that game so quick |
| 11:18.11 | carpman{sasami} | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 11:18.11 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #openzaurus 14 seconds ago, saying: Twiun: the waba vm is tiny, and it's been ported to lots of platforms [Mon Nov 4 11:19:46 2002] |
| 11:18.17 | DevGirl | darth_balls: its cool when tou download some skins :) |
| 11:18.25 | Ahnkana | cool |
| 11:18.26 | darth_balls | oooh, didn't know you could |
| 11:18.29 | darth_balls | I'll have to try |
| 11:18.35 | carpman{sasami} | Everyone plays the sims to get the people to commit suiscide, thats the point of the game. |
| 11:19.00 | darth_balls | cool |
| 11:19.11 | carpman{sasami} | damnit darth_balls, I just ate! :/ |
| 11:19.15 | darth_balls | oh, sorry |
| 11:19.19 | DevGirl | and we had some really weird characters :D |
| 11:19.23 | darth_balls | I was just putting my socks on and noticed |
| 11:19.29 | carpman{sasami} | no problem :) |
| 11:19.38 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 11:19.56 | carpman{sasami} | working pgl, working pgl, working pgl |
| 11:19.57 | DevGirl | we had a hiperactive boy who didn't stopped 1 minute! |
| 11:20.05 | darth_balls | haha |
| 11:20.27 | darth_balls | I made a game that had me and my friend joe living together with Josie McCoy and Shakira ^_^ |
| 11:20.58 | DevGirl | someday, 3:00 am game time and the timegame wasn't in max speed |
| 11:21.05 | DevGirl | we thought whtf??? |
| 11:21.13 | DevGirl | we thought wtf??? |
| 11:21.33 | DevGirl | and we started to looking for the reason |
| 11:21.56 | DevGirl | the hiperactuve boy were *RUNNING* arround the house |
| 11:22.08 | darth_balls | lol |
| 11:22.14 | DevGirl | we said the boy to sleep, and guess what? |
| 11:22.17 | carpman{sasami} | they see a deamon pop out of the ground and they go mad. |
| 11:22.33 | Ahnkana | how's that work...in the game the sims? |
| 11:22.51 | darth_balls | DevGirl: he kept running? |
| 11:23.21 | DevGirl | he lyed on bed and got up 3 mins after and turned the tv on |
| 11:23.39 | DevGirl | 2 mins after he turned the radio on and started to *DANCE* |
| 11:24.00 | DevGirl | whithout turning off the TV :D |
| 11:25.35 | DevGirl | god, I love "The sims" :) |
| 11:25.38 | darth_balls | hehe |
| 11:26.13 | DevGirl | you can do some really freaky things with that sims :D |
| 11:26.38 | darth_balls | I got a pic of shakira sleeping in her own filth once ^_^ |
| 11:26.48 | DevGirl | mhauwhawuwahawuawhuwa |
| 11:27.01 | DevGirl | my sim version used to sleep everywhere :D |
| 11:27.04 | Ahnkana | they are fun to play with....i had one sim lady that i made her skills perfect before i let her get a job, it was hilarious |
| 11:27.54 | DevGirl | and my ex-boyfriends sim version only agreed to marry me when I feeded (is it right?) him! |
| 11:28.09 | darth_balls | *fed |
| 11:28.12 | darth_balls | but I knew what you meant |
| 11:28.17 | DevGirl | ah :) |
| 11:28.20 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 11:28.35 | Ahnkana | do you guys have any of the expansion packs? |
| 11:28.52 | DevGirl | Ahnkana: my brother has all of them |
| 11:28.54 | darth_balls | DevGirl: most of the time it's very hard for me to tell it isn't your first language ^_^ |
| 11:29.00 | DevGirl | but he lives in other state |
| 11:29.12 | DevGirl | darth_balls: thanks :) |
| 11:29.20 | Ahnkana | DevGirl: i agree |
| 11:29.55 | DevGirl | Ahnkana: i played with the 2 first expansions... but I moved and couldn't visit my father's house anymore |
| 11:30.07 | DevGirl | Ahnkana: thank you too :) |
| 11:30.54 | Ahnkana | DevGirl: watch us speak spanish and then you'll laugh |
| 11:31.44 | DevGirl | Ahnkana: we speak portuguese here :D |
| 11:33.05 | DevGirl | Ahnkana: once I met an us guy who speaked portuguese :) it was funny, but he did it very well :) |
| 11:33.34 | DevGirl | and even I don't speak a good Spanish :D |
| 11:33.45 | Ahnkana | captain_proton: is english not your first language? |
| 11:34.11 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 11:34.15 | captain_proton | Ahnkana: no, it is |
| 11:34.35 | Ahnkana | oh ok |
| 11:34.39 | darth_balls | english are me one language |
| 11:34.43 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 11:35.01 | Ahnkana | arrrrrgh, matey |
| 11:35.13 | DevGirl | and a shitty japanese :D |
| 11:35.34 | DevGirl | Ahnkana: Bom dia = Good morning |
| 11:35.39 | DevGirl | now you know :D |
| 11:36.28 | Ahnkana | Yea! :-) |
| 11:37.29 | Ahnkana | my RA speaks protugese...i will use this new expresson on her |
| 11:37.35 | DevGirl | :) |
| 11:37.56 | darth_balls | KeyserSoze: now I too will picture the snoopy dance when people dance in irc |
| 11:41.18 | Ahnkana | typing normal just for fun |
| 11:41.21 | carpman{sasami} | he isint in class |
| 11:41.45 | carpman{sasami} | oh, there he is :) |
| 11:42.20 | Ahnkana | how is dallas today? warm and plesant as always? |
| 11:43.44 | Ahnkana | she types hungry |
| 11:44.24 | Ahnkana | but she keeps talking of food... |
| 11:44.33 | Ahnkana | sophie? |
| 11:44.48 | Ahnkana | aha |
| 11:45.19 | Ahnkana | well yea, having eaten...hw and sleep call |
| 11:45.41 | Ahnkana | but checks picobot for humor's sake |
| 11:45.47 | Ahnkana | picobot: sophie? |
| 11:45.48 | PicoBot | no idea, ahnkana |
| 11:45.59 | DevGirl | :) |
| 11:46.00 | Ahnkana | KeyserSoze: what is her online name? |
| 11:46.09 | Ahnkana | we should make her an entry |
| 11:46.18 | Ahnkana | picobot: joke? |
| 11:46.19 | PicoBot | Why did the elephant paint its toenails pink? |
| 11:46.55 | KeyserSoze | PicoBot: KeyserSoze |
| 11:46.56 | PicoBot | rumour has it KeyserSoze is just a love machine, and he don't work for nobody but Sophie |
| 11:47.39 | DevGirl | or Marion |
| 11:47.48 | Ahnkana | gina is pretty...i like gwen |
| 11:48.42 | scanline | betty joe bioloski? |
| 11:48.46 | scanline | nancy! |
| 11:48.48 | Ahnkana | picobot: sophie is also never but is rumored to exist in the land of KeyserSoze |
| 11:48.48 | PicoBot | OK, Ahnkana. |
| 11:48.58 | Ahnkana | opps...i messed that up |
| 11:49.03 | Ahnkana | how about gladys? |
| 11:49.16 | Ahnkana | that's an awful one |
| 11:50.06 | Ahnkana | if you are going unisex: try jordan |
| 11:50.14 | Ahnkana | billybob? |
| 11:51.14 | Ahnkana | oh right, hw and sleep |
| 11:51.22 | Ahnkana | i think i'll get on that now |
| 11:52.04 | Ahnkana | umm....yea, recall jen is the resident computer idiot here |
| 11:52.08 | Ahnkana | i speak of homeword |
| 11:52.13 | Ahnkana | *homework |
| 11:52.27 | carpman{sasami} | Ahnkana: nonono, file is the resident idiot in everything here |
| 11:53.18 | carpman{sasami} | bye KeyserSoze |
| 11:53.32 | scanline | bye KeysHole :) |
| 11:53.48 | carpman{sasami} | hehe |
| 11:54.14 | DevGirl | mwahuwhwauhwauawh |
| 11:54.23 | DevGirl | file is the resident idiot in everything here |
| 11:54.27 | DevGirl | true |
| 11:54.32 | kergoth | scanline: you any good with awk? |
| 11:54.36 | DevGirl | pont to carphole |
| 11:54.41 | DevGirl | point |
| 11:55.29 | scanline | kergoth: nah, I know very little awk |
| 11:55.33 | kergoth | geh |
| 11:55.49 | scanline | perl! |
| 11:55.53 | kergoth | taking advantage of its tokenizing abilities, didnt feel like using perl |
| 11:55.56 | DevGirl | yikes! |
| 11:55.56 | kergoth | but perl is probably best |
| 11:56.00 | DevGirl | yikes! |
| 11:57.06 | scanline | DevGirl: afraid of perl? |
| 11:57.41 | DevGirl | somebody had shown me a perl code and i runned away |
| 11:57.44 | DevGirl | in fear |
| 11:57.53 | scanline | hehe |
| 11:58.04 | DevGirl | U.G.L.Y |
| 11:58.12 | scanline | /#$&8/\\35#$$$$@#5236{}}}{{{/\\// <-- artificial intelligence in perl |
| 11:58.18 | kergoth | aha |
| 11:58.44 | DevGirl | that's why I feel confortable with python... its UNDERSTANDABLE |
| 11:58.58 | DevGirl | isnt pretty, but pretty understandable |
| 12:02.31 | DevGirl | eeeeek! |
| 12:02.49 | carphole | DevGirl: only scanline's C code is scary |
| 12:02.57 | captain_proton | but C is shiny |
| 12:03.24 | DevGirl | oooh, shiny! |
| 12:03.26 | DevGirl | :) |
| 12:03.40 | scanline | XCopyArea(x11_display,XB(src)->d,XB(dest)->d,g,src_x,src_y,w,h,x,y); |
| 12:03.49 | scanline | XSetForeground(x11_display,g,c); |
| 12:03.49 | scanline | XDrawArc(x11_display,XB(dest)->d,g,x,y,w,h,0,360*64); |
| 12:03.50 | DevGirl | oh! scary! |
| 12:03.57 | scanline | haha! it's Xlib code! run in terror! |
| 12:04.03 | DevGirl | stay good, scanline! stay good! |
| 12:06.29 | lalo[out] | there is, in fact, a python-xlib |
| 12:06.35 | scanline | hehehe |
| 12:06.48 | lalo[out] | it was what inspired me to write cli_python as a pure-python library instead of a wrapper |
| 12:06.59 | scanline | is python-xlib a wrapper? |
| 12:09.21 | lalo[out] | no |
| 12:09.36 | lalo[out] | pretty cool |
| 12:09.44 | scanline | neat |
| 12:09.46 | lalo[out] | http://python-xlib.sourceforge.net/ |
| 12:09.54 | scanline | especially since the X protocol isn't really documented :) |
| 12:10.15 | lalo[out] | well, there is the big collection of big, ugly, mean bugs |
| 12:10.25 | lalo[out] | s/bugs/books/ |
| 12:10.49 | lalo[out] | altough the sentence is also true the way I typed it, but it's not related to the topic. |
| 12:10.59 | scanline | :) |
| 12:15.14 | captain_proton | bwahaha, gonk is gonna be so scared |
| 12:15.14 | scanline | captain_proton: hm.. of what? |
| 12:15.18 | captain_proton | scanline: when i ask him to debug templated C++ code :) |
| 12:15.25 | scanline | ha |
| 12:15.31 | scanline | using recursive templates again? |
| 12:15.38 | captain_proton | not yet |
| 12:16.08 | captain_proton | but the first time you see a std::vector<std::string> its frightening |
| 12:16.32 | scanline | it's almost like using inline macros... yucky... |
| 12:16.39 | captain_proton | well, from your point of view (embedded systems) the don't make sense |
| 12:16.45 | scanline | s/macros/functions/ |
| 12:16.47 | captain_proton | but from mine, they're a godsend |
| 12:17.03 | scanline | captain_proton: my view isn't just embedded systems... but I do tend to think wasting code is bad :) |
| 12:17.45 | scanline | captain_proton: 90% of the stuff templates actually get used for could be done just as well using generics |
| 12:17.55 | scanline | void* is your friend |
| 12:18.23 | captain_proton | void* is not my friend |
| 12:18.24 | captain_proton | void* is evil |
| 12:18.28 | scanline | BAH! |
| 12:18.59 | captain_proton | void* is one of the roots of hungarian notation, the ultimate evil |
| 12:19.16 | scanline | what the heck does void* have to do with hungarian notation? |
| 12:19.34 | darth_lab | lol |
| 12:19.56 | captain_proton | scanline: void* makes type saftey difficult |
| 12:20.05 | scanline | captain_proton: only if you're lazy |
| 12:20.08 | scanline | :) |
| 12:20.30 | scanline | captain_proton: it's the language's fault for not giving you a type-safe way to stick any object in a container |
| 12:20.53 | scanline | maybe you could use a template that does typecasting for you :) |
| 12:21.36 | captain_proton | eww |
| 12:21.40 | captain_proton | EWW |
| 12:22.19 | captain_proton | excuse me for a while so i can writhe on the floor thinking about that |
| 12:22.25 | scanline | haha |
| 12:22.44 | scanline | C++ programmers these days, with their new-fangled type safety.... |
| 12:23.33 | scanline | it's all just memory |
| 12:24.53 | scanline | ah well... maybe now that I have this rootless thingamajig I'll take yet another step toward high-end scalability and write a cli_c++ |
| 12:25.05 | captain_proton | bzflag port! |
| 12:25.15 | scanline | captain_proton: no opengl yet :P |
| 12:25.21 | captain_proton | :( |
| 12:25.30 | scanline | I do want a template library for cli_c++ to be based on |
| 12:25.43 | scanline | there's STL of course, but that doesn't provide networking and threads AFAIK |
| 12:25.56 | captain_proton | you could use the STL + gnu CC++ |
| 12:26.25 | scanline | hmm.. haven't heard of CC++, I'll have to look into that. So far I was planning on using PTypes, which gives you threads, containers, strings, and networking |
| 12:26.41 | captain_proton | PTypes looks interesting but I like the STL containers better |
| 12:26.59 | captain_proton | CC++ basically just adds stuff for threads, networking, plugins, etc |
| 12:27.01 | scanline | But I figure I could use some practise in C++, and to make the people who would rather write apps in C++ than python or C shut up :) |
| 12:27.06 | captain_proton | plus its all cross-platform |
| 12:27.10 | scanline | cool |
| 12:27.23 | scanline | how much networking.. just sockets, or stuff like SHM and semaphores? |
| 12:27.37 | captain_proton | all of it |
| 12:27.40 | scanline | spiffy |
| 12:27.55 | captain_proton | its fun using iostreams-type operators on a socket |
| 12:28.31 | scanline | ooh.. that could make drawing on the canvas really easy |
| 12:28.44 | scanline | just have functions for primitives, that you can << into the canvas |
| 12:31.03 | captain_proton | yep, C++ is cute |
| 12:31.14 | scanline | hmph.. most of the stuff on google for "cc++" are misspellings of c++ |
| 12:31.29 | captain_proton | scanline: search for 'common c++' |
| 12:31.53 | scanline | ah, neat |
| 12:33.21 | scanline | captain_proton: one advantage of picogui is that the client code has to handle as little as possible data, so you don't have to worry about speed in the GUI code :) |
| 12:43.04 | darth_lab | lalala, lab time |
| 12:49.24 | anonyman[emujr] | sup hombre |
| 12:50.37 | darth_lab | hi anonyman[emujr] |
| 12:50.54 | anonyman[emujr] | hey all |
| 13:03.51 | darth_lab | lalala compiling |
| 13:05.46 | Ahnkana | the compiling song...? |
| 13:06.01 | darth_lab | gonkulator wrote it |
| 13:06.08 | Ahnkana | oh dear |
| 13:06.08 | darth_lab | it's sung to the tune of sail away by Styx |
| 13:06.19 | file | scanline did a bit in that |
| 13:06.20 | Ahnkana | hmm....i might have heard it |
| 13:06.21 | darth_lab | compile away, compile away, com-pile away with me lads |
| 13:06.32 | file | (if you din't know) |
| 13:06.34 | file | er didn't |
| 13:06.43 | Ahnkana | yea, they wanted me to sing one for them |
| 13:06.50 | darth_lab | file: I knew he did some stuff, I can just never remember which ones |
| 13:06.57 | file | File New Boxen Named Chimera Update: ATX Case with working PSU Located - Location: Across town. |
| 13:07.05 | Ahnkana | something to the tune of barbie girl, by aqua, but it hasn't happened yet |
| 13:07.15 | file | Ahnkana: yup |
| 13:07.20 | file | Ahnkana: gonkulator did it... |
| 13:07.23 | file | it's awful |
| 13:07.27 | Ahnkana | lol, he told me |
| 13:07.53 | Ahnkana | he wanted to write some serious stuff for me to sing, but i don't know...i get really nrevous singing in front of people |
| 13:08.06 | Ahnkana | i can sing, and well, i just get embarrassed |
| 13:08.09 | file | show 'em how you do it now! |
| 13:08.14 | file | shake your groove thing yeah yeah! |
| 13:08.20 | Ahnkana | picobot: sing |
| 13:08.20 | PicoBot | god save our gracious queen, long live our noble queen, god save the queen! send her victorious, happy and glorious, long to reign over us, god save the queen! |
| 13:08.36 | Ahnkana | file: there you go, picobot will sing along |
| 13:08.52 | file | Ahnkana: ... no thanks! |
| 13:08.55 | Ahnkana | lol |
| 13:08.57 | Ahnkana | no? |
| 13:09.24 | Ahnkana | oh, now you've gone and hurt our favorite bot's feelings...my goodness |
| 13:09.38 | file | haha |
| 13:11.14 | Ahnkana | yea, well...lol |
| 13:13.01 | darth_lab | ^_^ |
| 13:13.17 | file | darth_lab: what's happening in the lab |
| 13:13.49 | darth_lab | just finishing up my lab assignment |
| 13:13.55 | darth_lab | we did virtual functions and stuff today |
| 13:14.32 | file | ic |
| 13:16.21 | darth_lab | lalala done and done |
| 13:16.28 | darth_lab | how'd the test go? |
| 13:17.01 | file | dunno |
| 13:17.04 | file | but it seemed easy |
| 13:17.32 | file | venn diagrams, polynomials, world problems, diagrams in general, graphs |
| 13:17.37 | file | mean, median, mode |
| 13:17.42 | file | er word problems |
| 13:18.02 | darth_lab | file: what math are you in? |
| 13:18.57 | darth_lab | nm, gotta go |
| 13:18.59 | darth_lab | bbiab |
| 13:19.42 | Ahnkana | how does one leave messages like that when they sign off? |
| 13:20.05 | Xentac[work] | Ahnkana: the client... |
| 13:20.26 | Xentac[work] | Ahnkana: or...if you quit with '/quit' then use /quit <message> |
| 13:20.31 | Xentac[work] | I've never used trillian |
| 13:20.46 | Ahnkana | ah....it allows me to talk to friends on other chat clients too |
| 13:20.54 | Ahnkana | rather nice, but not linux |
| 13:21.51 | Xentac[work] | true enough |
| 13:22.08 | Ahnkana | oh that is so cool |
| 13:22.16 | Ahnkana | i'll change it back...sorry... |
| 13:22.33 | Xentac[work] | I don't think that topic is that bad... |
| 13:22.43 | Ahnkana | all i did was add weeeeeeeeelaa |
| 13:22.51 | Ahnkana | haha |
| 13:23.20 | Ahnkana | i am exploring IRC...it be fun, mon |
| 13:24.00 | coup | :) |
| 13:24.29 | file | coup: interesting nickname |
| 13:24.32 | Ahnkana | right so, anyways, back to this hw (hw in Ahnkana language means homework) that i have put off for ever |
| 13:24.50 | Ahnkana | and that is due in an hour....is coup new? |
| 13:25.13 | coup | file: when i were a lad i used to use "CoupDeGrace" as my nick, but canney be bothered to type it all anymore |
| 13:25.28 | file | ic |
| 13:25.36 | Ahnkana | coup: do you speak french? |
| 13:25.53 | coup | Ahnkana: aye, first time in #picogui, thinking about running it on my Zaurus, so thought i'd pop in here and haunt for a while |
| 13:26.00 | coup | Ahnkana: not a great deal :) |
| 13:26.15 | Xentac[work] | coup: we don't acutally talk about picogui much in here ;o) |
| 13:26.23 | file | yeah |
| 13:26.29 | Ahnkana | ah...just checking, as that is as i am sure you are aware, in french....yea, we just talk |
| 13:26.30 | coup | Xentac: lol :) |
| 13:26.33 | Xentac[work] | we're pretty off topic... |
| 13:26.34 | file | mostly I whine about not having stuff, and then people take pity and give me it - or they tell me to shutup |
| 13:26.37 | Ahnkana | often about weird shit |
| 13:26.44 | Ahnkana | umm...the latter |
| 13:26.53 | coup | fair enough :) |
| 13:27.23 | Xentac[work] | coup: if you're ever curious what people's roles are in the channel... just ask picobot... |
| 13:27.26 | Xentac[work] | PicoBot: file? |
| 13:27.27 | PicoBot | AoFBot: file |
| 13:27.38 | Xentac[work] | hehehe... as long as no one's been screwing with them... |
| 13:27.42 | Xentac[work] | PicoBot: scanline? |
| 13:27.42 | PicoBot | it has been said that scanline is one with less memory than a Cybiko or a dingo that needs shaving or the master of whistling to modems or a non-dingo that no longer needs shaving or now clean shaven or obsessed with hot sauce or not one to eat ramens without both water and hot sauce in them or the coiner of the word "biologicality" or shiny on the webcam or deaf or nobody's bitch or a thesaurus or a forgetful drunk |
| 13:27.43 | coup | lol |
| 13:27.55 | Ahnkana | PicoBot: Xentac[work]? |
| 13:27.55 | PicoBot | i think Xentac[work] is Xentac when he's writing Visual Basic code |
| 13:28.19 | coup | VB |
| 13:28.25 | Xentac[work] | or... if you want to see how someone normally acts... |
| 13:28.28 | Ahnkana | PicoBot: ahnkana? |
| 13:28.28 | PicoBot | you are scanline's roommate's girlfriend, or a goofball or a very short incarnation of the devil. She loves tomatoes, her favorite color is green, and if you tease her, you will likely reget it....she also runs faster then scanline! :- |
| 13:28.29 | Xentac[work] | PicoBot: emulate file |
| 13:28.46 | coup | :) |
| 13:28.48 | Ahnkana | oh neato, i didn't know picobot did that! |
| 13:28.52 | Ahnkana | picobot: joke? |
| 13:28.52 | PicoBot | Why did the chicken cross the bagel? |
| 13:28.59 | Ahnkana | PicoBot: why? |
| 13:29.00 | PicoBot | bugger all, i dunno, ahnkana |
| 13:29.06 | captain_proton | Ahnkana: hmm are you jen? |
| 13:29.07 | scanline | coup: usually I'm the only one that says anything even remotely picogui related in here... sometimes carpman and lalo when they're about |
| 13:29.21 | Ahnkana | i told you i was |
| 13:29.26 | captain_proton | ...you did? |
| 13:29.39 | Ahnkana | i thought so, when micah and i came and bugged you a while back...lol |
| 13:29.39 | coup | scanline: fair enough buddy boy :) well, make more apps :P |
| 13:29.57 | scanline | coup: haha.. I have my hands full with internals |
| 13:30.04 | Xentac[work] | coup: scanline is mostly a pgserver guy |
| 13:30.11 | coup | scanline: :) guessed you might :) |
| 13:30.24 | Ahnkana | scanline: that's because you re the only one who knows what you are talking about...the rest know computers, and i am just here |
| 13:30.27 | coup | scanline: if i ever get some free-time, i may start fiddling with some pg apps :) |
| 13:30.48 | scanline | coup: we can always use more apps |
| 13:30.55 | coup | aye :) |
| 13:31.00 | file | darth_balls: I'm in intensive (advanced) math |
| 13:31.04 | coup | scanline: and i could always use some time :) |
| 13:31.11 | scanline | coup: hehe |
| 13:31.17 | Xentac[work] | that was more than a year ago now.. |
| 13:31.20 | Ahnkana | we could all use time...got any to spare? |
| 13:31.21 | scanline | captain_proton: doesn't everybody? |
| 13:31.26 | coup | but, i quit my job soon, so that should help :) |
| 13:31.29 | captain_proton | scanline: good point |
| 13:31.31 | file | Xentac[work]: don't you have a Helio? |
| 13:31.35 | Xentac[work] | file: yes |
| 13:31.46 | file | Xentac[work]: aha, thought you might have sold it |
| 13:32.04 | scanline | captain_proton: I could just abandon this channel and make a #secret-picogui-developers-only, but then I'd usually be alone :P |
| 13:32.09 | Xentac[work] | nope... still sitting in my drawer... |
| 13:32.15 | Xentac[work] | scanline: bwahahaha |
| 13:32.24 | coup | lol |
| 13:32.25 | Xentac[work] | scanline: we pay attention when you make announcements |
| 13:32.35 | Ahnkana | scanline: you could, but eventually everyone but me would find you anyways |
| 13:32.44 | file | LOL |
| 13:32.44 | file | #secret-picogui-developers-only Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable |
| 13:32.46 | Xentac[work] | Ahnkana: bwahaha |
| 13:32.50 | scanline | not if I made the cahnnel invite only :P |
| 13:33.26 | Ahnkana | ah...but you would invite people right? otherwise, what's the point...you could just sign off then...lol |
| 13:33.30 | Xentac[work] | we'd have an elaborate plot, involving captain_proton and you being away from your computer... |
| 13:33.44 | scanline | captain_proton: yeah, it's pretty amazing |
| 13:34.12 | Ahnkana | slowly. |
| 13:34.18 | scanline | captain_proton: the only thing more amazing would be if I managed to get any useful information out of #xfree86 or #handhelds.org |
| 13:34.35 | Xentac[work] | scanline: #handhelds.org is pretty bad too? |
| 13:34.57 | scanline | Xentac[work]: I'm not in there often.. but it seems to break out in arguments frequently |
| 13:35.00 | Xentac[work] | "Who wants to run alternate windowing servers on handhelds? Opie forever!" |
| 13:35.03 | Xentac[work] | hehehe |
| 13:35.11 | Xentac[work] | arguments about? |
| 13:35.16 | scanline | Xentac[work]: that's pretty much how the X people are |
| 13:35.35 | scanline | Xentac[work]: http://picogui.org/download/xfree86.20021029.log |
| 13:35.39 | Xentac[work] | I know... I was trying to make the connection ;o) |
| 13:35.53 | scanline | Xentac[work]: ah. nevermind then |
| 13:36.52 | file | somebody threw paint water at me today |
| 13:37.27 | Xentac[work] | file: it's because they thought you were a st0ner! |
| 13:37.35 | scanline | Ahnkana: ah... ? hmm... maybe? |
| 13:37.40 | Ahnkana | lol |
| 13:37.54 | file | Xentac[work]: uh huh |
| 13:38.00 | scanline | Xentac[work]: work on the launcher |
| 13:38.11 | Xentac[work] | is it something that's already done? |
| 13:38.13 | scanline | Xentac[work]: write a PIM |
| 13:38.18 | scanline | Xentac[work]: optimize some drivers |
| 13:38.24 | Xentac[work] | er, not done... but started... |
| 13:38.25 | scanline | Xentac[work]: fix bugs |
| 13:38.25 | Ahnkana | captain_proton: all this pretains to being able to at least understand a conversationg between micah and chris....even if i can't add anything to it |
| 13:38.30 | scanline | Xentac[work]: write a better HTML parser |
| 13:38.36 | Xentac[work] | hehehe |
| 13:38.45 | scanline | Xentac[work]: there's a nice long todo list on sourceforge if you want ideas |
| 13:38.54 | Ahnkana | afk? |
| 13:39.05 | captain_proton | who is chris? |
| 13:39.23 | captain_proton | Ahnkana: away from keyboard |
| 13:39.23 | scanline | Xentac[work]: learn more then, and write docs |
| 13:39.27 | Xentac[work] | Ahnkana: away from keyboard |
| 13:39.28 | Ahnkana | captain_proton: friend in baker |
| 13:39.28 | darth_balls | Ahnkana: I feel your pain |
| 13:39.35 | Xentac[work] | scanline: hehehe... we'll see |
| 13:39.43 | captain_proton | hmm ok |
| 13:39.46 | Ahnkana | darth_balls: you do? |
| 13:40.05 | Xentac[work] | even if not completed... but somewhere |
| 13:40.27 | scanline | Xentac[work]: fixing bugs or maybe simple apps would be good for that |
| 13:40.29 | Ahnkana | captain_proton: i don't know his last name, ask scanline, he's a friend of mines resident tho, he lives int he basement |
| 13:40.56 | Xentac[work] | scanline: true... I just need... the time to set up the deve environment ;o) |
| 13:41.09 | scanline | captain_proton: Chris Howard.. I met him in my ECE classes last year, he's the eccentric geeky adventurous type... also into macs. He's on IRC sometimes as "laodamas" |
| 13:41.20 | Ahnkana | aha....that is the one |
| 14:41.34 | scanline | you'd have an extra request packet that would remap the most recent return value into an application-local handle space |
| 14:41.47 | scanline | that way if you create an object then use it right away, it doesn't require a round trip |
| 14:42.07 | scanline | that would also mean it would be possible to make a "hello world" app without recieving any data |
| 14:42.17 | scanline | so... a little echo and netcat and you'd have a picogui app :) |
| 14:43.48 | scanline | hey carpman |
| 14:43.51 | carpman | hey scanline |
| 14:46.36 | Xentac[work] | hey carpman |
| 14:47.19 | scanline | brb |
| 14:53.29 | file | my soundcard is... working again |
| 14:53.38 | file | even though when I started my machine yesterday it wasn't, it now is |
| 14:55.26 | Xentac[work] | file: silly windows... tricks are for kids |
| 14:55.43 | Xentac[work] | carpman: what picogui related stuff are you working on? |
| 14:56.07 | carpman | Xentac[work]: right now? Not much. I've been working on AoF |
| 14:56.21 | carpman | I'm going to kick pgl's ass prety soon tho. |
| 14:56.29 | Xentac[work] | what does AoF stand for again? |
| 14:57.15 | carpman | Arsenal Of Freedom. Its a data engine. |
| 14:57.32 | carpman | scanline: is freetype 2.1.2 new enough? |
| 14:58.11 | Xentac[work] | is that directly related to the bot? |
| 14:58.24 | carpman | yes, the bot was an object in the data engine. |
| 14:59.09 | carpman | `FTC_ImageTypeRec' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 15:00.13 | file | mmm |
| 15:00.20 | file | I wonder if it's possible for me to listen to a CD over the LAN |
| 15:00.39 | Xentac[work] | carpman: 2.1.2 still isn't new enough? that sucks... |
| 15:00.43 | scanline | carpman: last I checked it had to be CVS |
| 15:01.17 | Xentac[work] | scanline: damn you developers using developer software! |
| 15:01.49 | scanline | ha |
| 15:01.57 | Xentac[work] | it is sort of annoying though... |
| 15:02.15 | Xentac[work] | when you want to do development on an app, but you need cvs versions of other software first |
| 15:02.35 | scanline | Xentac[work]: that's why freetype is disabled by default still |
| 15:02.55 | carpman | If I'm going to use pgserver as my desktop, its going to be pretty, damnit! >:) |
| 15:03.04 | Xentac[work] | scanline: ah, I see |
| 15:03.12 | Xentac[work] | carpman: bwahahaha |
| 15:03.28 | scanline | :) |
| 15:03.39 | scanline | carpman: I could probably toss some #ifdefs in there to make it work on older freetypes |
| 15:04.13 | carpman | scanline: we need some way to handle root clicks, so pgl-launcher can open a menu on the root window. merlin262 suggested a picogui tailored wm. |
| 15:04.20 | carpman | scanline: NO! Thats allright :) |
| 15:04.27 | scanline | hehe |
| 15:04.55 | scanline | carpman: I thought there was a way to ask the wm for root clicks.. but either way, it would be interesting to make a picogui WM.. |
| 15:05.34 | scanline | carpman: easiest way would be to ditch X's window borders and make a widget that does our own window management, same thing we'd need for directfb anyway.. but then it wouldn't work for X apps |
| 15:05.47 | scanline | carpman: I suppose you could make a window manager that uses libpgserver :) |
| 15:06.47 | Xentac[work] | carpman: won't pgl-launcher be a "window" in itself though...? |
| 15:06.52 | darth_balls | well, I gotta go to film now, ttyl |
| 15:07.08 | carpman | Xentac[work]: yes, but I want root clicks. |
| 15:07.15 | Xentac[work] | for what...? |
| 15:07.35 | Xentac[work] | don't most WMs already grab root clicks for their own evil ends? |
| 15:07.37 | scanline | root menu! |
| 15:07.54 | scanline | I'm sure there's something in the ICCCM about root clicks |
| 15:13.37 | scanline | grr.. there's one thing about fluxbox that's bugging me.. I don't think there's a way to smoothly resize windows |
| 15:13.37 | scanline | with all of pgserver's double buffering and lack of synchronization problems, if anything can resize smoothly it's a picogui app |
| 15:13.38 | Xentac[work] | does it do the square thing? instead of resizing and watching, it's resizing once you let go? |
| 15:13.38 | scanline | right |
| 15:13.38 | carpman | scanline: where do I put the fonts? |
| 15:13.38 | scanline | carpman: wherever you want. There's a config variable to set the font path |
| 15:13.38 | carpman | ok |
| 15:13.41 | scanline | carpman: take a look at the font-freetype section of README.configfile |
| 15:17.14 | scanline | carpman: dunno if I mentioned this already, but expect freetype fonts to be extremely slow in the x11 driver, since it's still using the terribly slow default blending |
| 15:18.22 | carpman | yay, rootless |
| 15:18.26 | scanline | ah.. Xnest is so great for testing programs with other window managers |
| 15:18.30 | scanline | carpman: cool |
| 15:19.29 | carpman | hehe, the font dosn't even appear |
| 15:19.33 | scanline | hmm |
| 15:19.41 | scanline | gah... |
| 15:19.57 | scanline | I try pgserver rootless in sawfish with opaque resizing, and it flickers like crazy |
| 15:20.06 | scanline | the X server is redrawing a black background on the window |
| 15:20.19 | Xentac[work] | Xnest? |
| 15:20.46 | scanline | Xentac[work]: X server that runs inside X |
| 15:20.59 | Xentac[work] | ah... so it becomes like :0.1? |
| 15:21.04 | scanline | :1 |
| 15:21.22 | Xentac[work] | ah, that would make more sense... |
| 15:23.20 | Xentac[work] | which means I have more free time... |
| 15:23.55 | carpman | Xentac[work]: not the wisest thing to say in this channel :) |
| 15:24.09 | Xentac[work] | carpman: that's what I was eluding to ;P |
| 15:25.38 | Xentac[work] | gah! |
| 15:26.04 | scanline | well.. I think if I double buffer and make sure redraws are fast, I can make X appear to have smooth redraws! |
| 15:26.19 | scanline | damn this asynchronous event model... |
| 15:27.43 | Xentac[work] | carpman: I think that the other thing that stops me from contributing is that picogui is very big... and difficult to learn... |
| 15:28.15 | scanline | it's not that big |
| 15:29.05 | file | Xentac[work]: go to the other side of town and get my ATX case, yeah, thanks |
| 15:29.06 | scanline | 70000 lines of code or so, still small :) |
| 15:29.06 | carpman | smaller than the qte hello world :) |
| 15:29.06 | Xentac[work] | file: it's your fault that picogui is so big |
| 15:29.06 | Xentac[work] | scanline: :P |
| 15:29.06 | file | ok |
| 15:29.08 | carpman | file: offer not applicable if you are file. |
| 15:29.24 | Xentac[work] | the largest project I think that I've ever worked on (with someone else) that wasn't for work was somewhere around 5000 lines... of php code! |
| 15:29.34 | Xentac[work] | carpman: nice |
| 15:32.13 | captain_proton | waimea looks cool |
| 15:32.13 | captain_proton | it'd be even cooler if it used RENDER :) |
| 15:32.13 | scanline | *gasp* |
| 15:32.13 | scanline | all that transparency and they don't use RENDER? |
| 15:32.21 | scanline | bah |
| 15:32.25 | scanline | Xlib: extension "RENDER" missing on display ":1.0". |
| 15:32.29 | scanline | I guess they do use render |
| 15:32.38 | Xentac[work] | hehehe |
| 15:32.41 | captain_proton | none of their screenshots show it |
| 15:32.52 | scanline | ooh, I like this |
| 15:33.10 | scanline | brb, restarting X |
| 15:38.53 | scan[ibook] | grr |
| 15:39.08 | scan[ibook] | darn nvidia all to heck! |
| 15:39.52 | Xentac[work] | scan[ibook]: can't start up X...? |
| 15:40.56 | scan[ibook] | grr.. and now it's fscking |
| 15:41.35 | Xentac[work] | X froze..? |
| 15:41.46 | scan[ibook] | yeah, X crashed hard when I restarted it |
| 15:41.49 | scan[ibook] | now it's fscking |
| 15:42.01 | scan[ibook] | mounted 20 times without being checked... |
| 15:42.22 | Xentac[work] | hehehe |
| 15:42.35 | carpman | well ladies and gentlemen. Hardscrabble is t0ast. |
| 15:43.02 | carpman | We've sold. Next week we start dismantling the hardware. |
| 15:44.36 | scan[ibook] | you already found a new job though, didn't you? |
| 15:45.19 | carpman | Yeah, I believe so. |
| 15:45.29 | carpman | I haven't signed anything, but it sounds good. |
| 15:46.31 | carpman | It sucks tho, I built all of those servers except for one by myself. I don't want to take them apart. |
| 15:46.32 | Xentac[work] | carpman: I can understand that... |
| 15:50.47 | Xentac[work] | scan[ibook]: having problems...? |
| 15:51.31 | carpman | ARGJKLLK:GJ:LKDSJFG |
| 15:51.32 | file | hi fraggle |
| 15:51.37 | fragglet | yay |
| 15:51.48 | carpman | Brb, removing stupid b0rken SCSI cdroms. |
| 15:52.01 | scan[ibook] | Xentac[work]: nah, it's working. I'm just configuring waimea the way I want it :) |
| 15:53.54 | scanline | wheeee |
| 15:54.07 | scanline | I think if I fix this flickering, waimea + picogui will make for silky smooth window resizing in X |
| 15:54.50 | Xentac[work] | hehehe |
| 15:57.03 | scanline | pgl needs an applet that's just a one-line terminal... with a hotkey to focus it |
| 15:57.17 | scanline | with something like that, who'd need a launcher menu? |
| 15:58.22 | Xentac[work] | scan[ibook]: double buffered emacs... why? |
| 15:58.29 | scanline | hi LoneTech! |
| 15:58.37 | Xentac[work] | ho LoneTech |
| 15:58.38 | scanline | Xentac[work]: so it doesn't flicker when I resize it of course :) |
| 15:59.16 | LoneTech | scanline: I see you still like to use xchat for screenshots. haven't come up with a nicer app yet? |
| 16:00.01 | scanline | LoneTech: guess not.. I haven't been doing any app development recently, lots of stuff to keep busy with in pgserver |
| 16:00.07 | lalo | Xentac[work]: are you accepting suggestions? :-) |
| 16:00.17 | LoneTech | yes, congrats on rootless |
| 16:00.31 | LoneTech | or should that be "thank you"? |
| 16:00.38 | scanline | hehe |
| 16:00.44 | LoneTech | I'm not very good with human languages |
| 16:00.55 | Xentac[work] | lalo: notice that carpman set that (I assume you're talking about the topic) |
| 16:01.00 | scanline | I'm still working out bugs of course, but it's pretty spiffy |
| 16:01.08 | scanline | LoneTech: either way makes sense |
| 16:03.43 | lalo | Xentac[work]: there are quite a few ideas at http://picogui.org/wiki/view/Main/ApplicationWishlist - if I understand you at all, you would perhaps find it interesting to write a vnc viewer |
| 16:04.03 | Xentac[work] | vncviewer... for picogui...? |
| 16:04.04 | lalo | Xentac[work]: I know, but it's not a bad idea ;-) |
| 16:04.07 | lalo | yes |
| 16:04.36 | Xentac[work] | if you understand me...? as in my personality, or my request? |
| 16:04.53 | lalo | your "coding personality" |
| 16:05.08 | file | O.o |
| 16:05.57 | LoneTech | a vncviewer would probably want to work with a mmapped bitmap with optional scrolling |
| 16:06.14 | scanline | that'd be easy to do |
| 16:07.15 | Xentac[work] | hehhe... alrighty |
| 16:07.25 | lalo | is media_c unvapoured yet? |
| 16:07.31 | scanline | lalo: nope |
| 16:07.42 | lalo | too bad :-) |
| 16:07.53 | scanline | Xentac[work]: so that's your first job, write media_c |
| 16:08.02 | LoneTech | media? |
| 16:08.18 | scanline | LoneTech: client-side library to make it easier to work with shared memory bitmaps |
| 16:08.39 | scanline | LoneTech: pretty much just ripping out the code that's in SDL right now and making a library |
| 16:08.41 | Xentac[work] | scanline: media_c? |
| 16:08.43 | lalo | btw I just installed a lot of media players for gnome2... gqoob and gstreamer-player and rhythmbox |
| 16:08.45 | Xentac[work] | gah! |
| 16:08.46 | LoneTech | ok |
| 16:08.46 | lalo | gave me some ideas |
| 16:09.04 | LoneTech | though on all other platforms, using sdl is the easiest way to do that |
| 16:09.16 | Xentac[work] | hehehe... a vnc viewer with sdl.. |
| 16:09.17 | LoneTech | but I guess ripping it out is the proper way to do it in a small system |
| 16:09.25 | scanline | LoneTech: true, but SDL limits you to one main window and 8bpp or higher |
| 16:09.31 | lalo | yes |
| 16:09.37 | lalo | the 8bpp thing is a problem :-/ |
| 16:09.37 | Xentac[work] | lalo: I don't know where my personality/skills are with programming on a project like this... |
| 16:10.06 | carpman | there |
| 16:10.06 | scanline | wb carpman |
| 16:10.27 | carpman | Hi DevGirl |
| 16:10.29 | lalo | Xentac[work]: dunno, something in your conversation makes me feel you'd have more fun writing this than something higher-level |
| 16:10.45 | Xentac[work] | hmmm... |
| 16:10.47 | Xentac[work] | alrighty |
| 16:10.52 | lalo | I could be wrong of course, this is wild guessing :-) |
| 16:10.53 | DevGirl | hi, carpman! |
| 16:11.02 | Xentac[work] | lalo: hehehe... better than anyone else's suggestions ;o) |
| 16:11.11 | scanline | hi De |
| 16:11.13 | scanline | ack |
| 16:11.14 | scanline | hi DevGirl |
| 16:11.23 | Xentac[work] | luckily there's 'screen' |
| 16:12.08 | LoneTech | screen is good |
| 16:12.17 | carpman | LoneTech! |
| 16:12.23 | LoneTech | yes? |
| 16:12.32 | carpman | Hi, haven't seen you in a wile :) |
| 16:12.43 | DevGirl | hi, scanline :) |
| 16:12.57 | LoneTech | lo |
| 16:13.13 | LoneTech | sorry. I'm not always active. |
| 16:13.22 | LoneTech | augh |
| 16:13.28 | LoneTech | horrible source, scanline |
| 16:13.52 | LoneTech | though I'm not one to ask about that.. last time I wrote an X program I used the xmag sources for reference. |
| 16:15.27 | scanline | :) |
| 16:15.48 | carpman | brb |
| 16:17.48 | Xentac[work] | lalo: now I have to bug you asking you why you think that a vnc viewer would be interesting to me...? |
| 16:18.31 | lalo | I have no idea. |
| 16:18.40 | Xentac[work] | hehehe |
| 16:18.44 | lalo | if I later form an opinion, I swear I'll tell you :-) |
| 16:18.56 | Xentac[work] | alrighty |
| 16:19.03 | Xentac[work] | it was just sort of a thought that popped into your head? |
| 16:23.29 | lalo | did you read Agatha Christie when you were younger? |
| 16:24.02 | Xentac[work] | the name rings a bell... but I don't think so... |
| 16:24.06 | lalo | I could say in a few words that it was more of a Miss Marple than a Poirot thing :-) |
| 16:24.24 | LoneTech | see you around.. |
| 16:24.25 | Xentac[work] | that means very little to me.. |
| 16:24.31 | Xentac[work] | have a good one LoneTech |
| 16:24.44 | lalo | I thought about it and this answer seemed to fit, but I can't reproduce the process |
| 16:25.08 | Xentac[work] | ok |
| 16:25.25 | carpman | ahh, accelerated X once again working |
| 16:25.53 | DevGirl | yay! |
| 16:25.56 | carpman | 3540 frames in 5.0 seconds = 708.000 FPS on glxgears |
| 16:26.22 | carpman | it was going so fast, you couldn't see it move, except when it skipped. It was freaky. |
| 16:27.17 | Xentac[work] | carpman: what card is that...? |
| 16:28.15 | carpman | Xentac[work]: Gforce 2 mx 400 |
| 16:28.28 | carpman | on an athlon xp 1700 with ddr |
| 16:28.36 | Xentac[work] | nice... |
| 16:28.36 | carpman | s/ddr/256mb ddr |
| 16:28.50 | DevGirl | ddr? Dance Dance Revolution??? it sucks ;) |
| 16:29.03 | DevGirl | only four pads :P |
| 16:29.18 | carpman | After we take the machines down at work, I'll be getting a 5 disk 9gb per disk scsi ultra 160 raid array. The raid card has 64mb cache on it. |
| 16:29.53 | Xentac[work] | carpman: raid5? |
| 16:30.00 | carpman | Xentac[work]: probably not |
| 16:30.06 | Xentac[work] | raid1? |
| 16:30.32 | carpman | dunno, hadn't given it much thought. |
| 16:30.56 | carpman | probably mirror, that would give the fastest access times. |
| 16:31.11 | Xentac[work] | that's raid1... |
| 16:31.19 | Xentac[work] | so you'd only be using 18 gig out of it then...? |
| 16:31.23 | carpman | (1+1)+(1+1) with an odd disk. |
| 16:31.27 | carpman | yeah |
| 16:31.28 | Xentac[work] | 2 drives, mirrored, with an extra disk |
| 16:31.44 | Xentac[work] | raid5 would give... twice that... |
| 16:31.51 | Xentac[work] | and raid0 would just be "big" |
| 16:31.52 | Xentac[work] | ;o) |
| 16:32.10 | carpman | yeah, but raid 5 would be slower |
| 16:32.26 | Xentac[work] | true... but you get twice as much space |
| 16:32.33 | carpman | I want "like a screaming batt out of hell", not just "bat out of hell" |
| 16:32.35 | Xentac[work] | which would you rather, space or speed? |
| 16:32.39 | Xentac[work] | hehehe |
| 16:32.43 | carpman | speed, I have another machine for storage |
| 16:32.50 | Xentac[work] | alrighty then |
| 16:35.04 | merlin262 | it's good to be home |
| 16:36.24 | merlin262 | that doesn't stop me. |
| 16:36.25 | Xentac[work] | at my old workplace you were allowed to nap... |
| 16:36.46 | DevGirl | I could nap, but there's no place |
| 16:36.47 | DevGirl | :P |
| 16:36.55 | DevGirl | no confortable place |
| 16:37.36 | lalo | one friend once visited Netscape Corp. |
| 16:38.07 | DevGirl | lalo: and...??? |
| 16:38.12 | lalo | there was a room called "crash room", with pillows and mats and other crashware |
| 16:38.28 | lalo | and there were people actually sleeping there at the time |
| 16:38.28 | Xentac[work] | hehehe, cool |
| 16:38.31 | DevGirl | yay for Netscape! |
| 16:38.42 | file[ermph] | Netscrape? |
| 16:38.43 | lalo | dunno, he was horrified :-) |
| 16:39.38 | file[ermph] | O.o |
| 16:39.46 | file[ermph] | DevGirl: your always thinking that it appears |
| 16:40.22 | DevGirl | file[ermph]: why do you think I'm pregnant :) |
| 16:40.29 | darth_balls | lol |
| 16:40.44 | file[ermph] | snow... |
| 16:40.46 | lalo | file[ermph]: yes she is |
| 16:40.56 | darth_balls | rofl |
| 16:41.03 | DevGirl | when I'm not thinking, I'm doing :D |
| 16:41.13 | file[ermph] | don't crush lalo... |
| 16:41.45 | DevGirl | file[ermph]: Why do you think lalo is always stressed? :D |
| 16:41.48 | darth_balls | DevGirl is a funny funny girl ^_^ |
| 16:41.49 | DevGirl | kidding :) |
| 16:41.53 | file[ermph] | DevGirl: LOL |
| 16:41.55 | Xentac[work] | DevGirl: I hope I get a gf like you next time ;o) |
| 16:42.33 | DevGirl | Xentac[work]: I'm afraid that there weren't a lot of girls like me in the world ;D |
| 16:42.41 | DevGirl | i'm sooooooooooooooooo special! |
| 16:42.44 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: more snow tonight for me |
| 16:42.53 | DevGirl | :D |
| 16:43.13 | Xentac[work] | file[ermph]: ha ha... it's only 0 here! |
| 16:43.21 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: yeah yeah... |
| 16:43.30 | DevGirl | darth_balls: I have to be a funny girl, otherwise my life wouldn't be funny at all :) |
| 16:44.15 | Xentac[work] | DevGirl: my first gf was like you... it was kinda nice... the problem was that she didn't do it with me... |
| 16:44.15 | DevGirl | darth_balls: at least i could be sluggy, if I wasn't a funny girl :D |
| 16:44.15 | DevGirl | Xentac[work]: :P |
| 16:44.15 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: that bites... |
| 16:45.30 | file[ermph] | DevGirl: too much information |
| 16:45.30 | DevGirl | file[ermph]: woman... men reach the orgasm faster ^^ |
| 16:45.30 | DevGirl | oh! |
| 16:45.44 | Xentac[work] | DevGirl: hehehe |
| 16:45.48 | file[ermph] | DevGirl: I'm at the prime age :p |
| 16:45.50 | Xentac[work] | he's also... ummmm... afraid? |
| 16:46.01 | lalo | scared shitless. |
| 16:46.06 | file[ermph] | lol |
| 16:46.40 | lalo | and it's primary age, not prime ;-) |
| 16:47.06 | file[ermph] | I don't think so... |
| 16:47.11 | DevGirl | and that doesn't has double meaning :D |
| 16:47.19 | lalo | bagel? |
| 16:47.24 | file[ermph] | BAGEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:47.26 | lalo | do you have an idea what a bagel is? |
| 16:47.27 | Xentac[work] | lalo: I believe he was trying to say his age is the prime age for male... ummm.... activity |
| 16:47.41 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: good coverup |
| 16:48.21 | Xentac[work] | copulation? |
| 16:48.23 | Xentac[work] | is that better? |
| 16:48.27 | Xentac[work] | fornication? |
| 16:48.33 | darth_balls | it's a good word in general |
| 16:48.36 | Xentac[work] | darth_balls: don't we all... |
| 16:48.40 | darth_balls | hehe |
| 16:48.43 | DevGirl | male's activity or male's hand activity? |
| 16:48.51 | darth_balls | PicoBot: Beck |
| 16:48.55 | DevGirl | eeeeew |
| 16:49.06 | file[ermph] | PicoBot: sex? |
| 16:49.06 | PicoBot | well, sex is updatedb; locate blonde; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; ipkg install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; ipkg remove condom; make clean; sleep |
| 16:49.08 | darth_balls | DevGirl: there's a difference ? ;) |
| 16:49.24 | DevGirl | let me rephrase that |
| 16:49.59 | DevGirl | male's ribs activity or male's hand activity? |
| 16:50.01 | Xentac[work] | file[ermph]: that's good... |
| 16:50.15 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: yeah, I got it from ibot and taught PicoBot it |
| 16:50.19 | file[ermph] | should have modified it... |
| 16:50.56 | Xentac[work] | no, I'd say it's good |
| 16:51.09 | Xentac[work] | they missed one though... |
| 16:51.21 | Xentac[work] | between gawk; and ipkg install condom;... there needs to be a find condom; |
| 16:51.29 | darth_balls | hehe |
| 16:51.39 | carpman | file... copulate... yeah, right. :) |
| 16:51.39 | file[ermph] | what?!?!? you don't keep one in your main directory? |
| 16:52.52 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: poor you... |
| 16:53.27 | Xentac[work] | file[ermph]: yeah... like you have condoms anywhere |
| 16:53.29 | DevGirl | but there's no need |
| 16:53.39 | DevGirl | i'm already pregnant :) |
| 16:53.41 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: yeah but your old... and I'm a young geek... |
| 16:53.48 | Xentac[work] | file[ermph]: how old are you? |
| 16:54.05 | Xentac[work] | DevGirl: heehe, they're useless now, eh? |
| 16:54.10 | file[ermph] | 1? |
| 16:54.28 | DevGirl | Xentac: but there will be some use for them in the future ;) |
| 16:54.53 | Xentac[work] | DevGirl: true enough |
| 16:54.58 | Xentac[work] | file[ermph]: 16...? |
| 16:55.22 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: good guess |
| 16:55.46 | DevGirl | almost 4 years ago |
| 16:55.47 | Xentac[work] | file[ermph]: but is it correct? |
| 16:56.22 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: affirmative. |
| 16:56.37 | darth_balls | lalo or DevGirl: how long have you two been married, just out of curiosity? |
| 16:56.54 | lalo | one year and a few months |
| 16:56.58 | darth_balls | cool |
| 16:57.18 | darth_balls | speaking of sex... www.thespark.com |
| 16:57.27 | darth_balls | I think that's the right address |
| 16:57.33 | darth_balls | take the sex test, it's fun |
| 16:57.50 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 16:57.58 | file[ermph] | lol |
| 16:59.23 | DevGirl | but I swear I didn't hunted virgin boys! |
| 16:59.50 | kergoth | hrmph |
| 16:59.52 | kergoth | women are evil |
| 17:01.10 | Xentac[work] | kergoth: hehehe |
| 17:01.25 | Xentac[work] | kergoth: but a necessary evil... |
| 17:01.48 | kergoth | true that |
| 17:01.55 | kergoth | i didnt say it was necessarily a bad thing |
| 17:01.56 | kergoth | just a fact |
| 17:02.30 | Xentac[work] | true enough |
| 17:02.43 | file[ermph] | Congrats! In your life, you'll have sex with 2 people! And you'll first have sex at age 19, in your own bed. You are 14% sexy. |
| 17:02.44 | Xentac[work] | have you seen that proof...? |
| 17:03.08 | darth_balls | file[ermph]: really? |
| 17:03.10 | Xentac[work] | woman = time * money |
| 17:03.18 | darth_balls | Xentac[work]: exactly |
| 17:03.21 | Xentac[work] | time is money: woman = money ^ 2 |
| 17:03.34 | darth_balls | lol |
| 17:03.39 | file[ermph] | darth_balls: yes |
| 17:03.49 | darth_balls | i love those tests |
| 17:03.50 | darth_balls | they're so fun |
| 17:03.55 | darth_balls | I also took the insanity test |
| 17:03.56 | Xentac[work] | money is the root of all evil: money = sqrt(evil) |
| 17:03.59 | darth_balls | something like 46% insane |
| 17:04.12 | Xentac[work] | subbing in: woman = (sqrt(evil)) ^ 2 |
| 17:04.17 | Xentac[work] | therefore: woman = evil |
| 17:04.32 | darth_balls | Xentac[work]: did you come up w/ that? |
| 17:04.38 | Xentac[work] | no... that's an old one |
| 17:04.41 | darth_balls | ok |
| 17:04.50 | darth_balls | I thought I'd heard it somewhere before, but I couldn't remember where |
| 17:04.54 | darth_balls | thought it might have been from you |
| 17:05.19 | Xentac[work] | no no no |
| 17:05.44 | darth_balls | Xentac[work]: thanks for reminding me about it though |
| 17:05.49 | Xentac[work] | no prob |
| 17:08.09 | file[ermph] | so what's everyone up to now? |
| 17:10.35 | darth_balls | w00t |
| 17:10.42 | lalo | dunno |
| 17:10.43 | file[ermph] | t'what? |
| 17:10.47 | darth_balls | DONE WITH MY LAST PAPER FOR THE PHILOSOPHY MID TERM |
| 17:10.53 | lalo | money is the root of evil... not necessarily the square root |
| 17:10.54 | DevGirl | wow... |
| 17:11.14 | file[ermph] | DevGirl: what was your score? |
| 17:11.30 | lalo | if money is the cubic root of evil... then women are a bit less than evil |
| 17:11.33 | DevGirl | Congrats! In your life, you'll have sex with |
| 17:11.33 | DevGirl | 17 people! Including the 8 you've already had sex with, |
| 17:11.33 | DevGirl | that makes 9 new lovers! You are 56% sexy. |
| 17:11.34 | file[ermph] | darth_balls: I think she broke the perl script |
| 17:11.53 | DevGirl | In addition, you'll consider sleeping with a male prostitute. |
| 17:11.53 | file[ermph] | DevGirl: is that accurate? |
| 17:11.54 | darth_balls | haha |
| 17:11.57 | DevGirl | how could I? |
| 17:12.09 | lalo | but if time is the 4th root of evil, then women are the square root, meaning, women are *also* the root of evil |
| 17:12.10 | darth_balls | DevGirl: hehe |
| 17:12.38 | lalo | which sounds accurate |
| 17:12.55 | DevGirl | 4 woman and 5 men |
| 17:12.56 | file[ermph] | DevGirl: so is it accurate?!?!?! |
| 17:13.04 | darth_balls | roflmao |
| 17:13.11 | file[ermph] | your killing me LOL |
| 17:13.12 | darth_balls | file[ermph]: cheeell, winston |
| 17:13.51 | darth_balls | well, off again |
| 17:13.52 | darth_balls | ttyl |
| 17:14.08 | lalo | file[ermph]: no, there are others in the world. |
| 17:14.11 | gonkulator | oh |
| 17:14.11 | file[ermph] | hi gonkulator |
| 17:14.12 | gonkulator | later darth_balls |
| 17:14.15 | gonkulator | hi file |
| 17:14.15 | file[ermph] | lalo: I meant in the world you dingo |
| 17:14.25 | DevGirl | hi, gonkey :) |
| 17:14.28 | file[ermph] | probably gonkulator |
| 17:14.34 | gonkulator | hey DevGirl |
| 17:14.43 | lalo | gonkulator: do you gonkulate a lot? |
| 17:14.50 | captain_proton | gonkulator: how averse would you be to debugging templated C++ code on osx? :) |
| 17:14.58 | file[ermph] | DevGirl: better fill that quota on that test, otherwise the world will go KABOOM |
| 17:15.08 | gonkulator | captain_proton: right now, very |
| 17:15.16 | gonkulator | lalo: what exactly is "gonkulating" |
| 17:15.29 | captain_proton | gonkulator: willing to at least try compiling? |
| 17:15.32 | lalo | dunno, it's *your* nick |
| 17:15.34 | file[ermph] | mommy... he said gonkulating! |
| 17:15.37 | file[ermph] | LOL |
| 17:15.43 | gonkulator | captain_proton: sure, I'll give it a try |
| 17:15.55 | captain_proton | gonkulator: you'll need subversion to get this source tree |
| 17:16.07 | gonkulator | captain_proton: just talk me through it :) |
| 17:16.31 | captain_proton | gonkulator: well, first off go to subversion.tigris.org and grab the utils |
| 17:17.07 | gonkulator | ok |
| 17:17.53 | DevGirl | yay! I'm just 33% insane! :D |
| 17:18.02 | file[ermph] | gonkulator: apparently DevGirl is gonna have sex with 17 people in her life |
| 17:18.23 | gonkulator | file: ? |
| 17:18.40 | gonkulator | file: how many people am I going to have sex with in my life? |
| 17:18.42 | file[ermph] | gonkulator: http://www.thespark.com/ |
| 17:18.46 | file[ermph] | take the test and find out! |
| 17:19.24 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: ok |
| 17:19.25 | gonkulator | captain_proton: which ones are the utils? |
| 17:19.50 | captain_proton | gonkulator: there's only one package |
| 17:19.57 | gonkulator | captain_proton: oh, ok |
| 17:20.59 | gonkulator | captain_proton: I only have a 500 mHz G3... this is a big tarball... |
| 17:21.08 | gonkulator | captain_proton: how much compiling is this going to take? |
| 17:21.12 | DevGirl | file[ermph]: 17 ppl isn't a lot whan you wish to live forever :) |
| 17:21.40 | Xentac[work] | file[ermph]: but you'll probably have to remind me... |
| 17:21.42 | Xentac[work] | DevGirl: bwahahaha |
| 17:21.50 | file[ermph] | DevGirl: hehe |
| 17:21.53 | Xentac[work] | DevGirl: and you're doing pretty well so far, right |
| 17:21.54 | Xentac[work] | ? |
| 17:21.58 | captain_proton | gonkulator: hmm, well you'll need the svn client, then compiling bz |
| 17:22.30 | gonkulator | captain_proton: bzFlag? |
| 17:22.49 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 17:22.59 | gonkulator | alright |
| 17:23.07 | gonkulator | I am autogening right now |
| 17:23.15 | DevGirl | Xentac[work]: just 8 till now :) |
| 17:23.24 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: how long till you leave? |
| 17:23.29 | Xentac[work] | DevGirl: really? 8 people? |
| 17:23.35 | Xentac[work] | file[ermph]: soon... very very soon |
| 17:23.44 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: ic |
| 17:23.51 | file[ermph] | my e-mail is down... |
| 17:23.53 | gonkulator | file[ermph]: how many people are you going to have sex with? |
| 17:23.58 | gonkulator | 1 |
| 17:24.03 | file[ermph] | gonkulator: higher |
| 17:24.13 | gonkulator | file: how many people are yoo? |
| 17:24.15 | gonkulator | er, you? |
| 17:24.18 | file[ermph] | gonkulator: 2 LOL |
| 17:24.44 | DevGirl | Xentac[work]: 8... but the best ones were when I was in love... |
| 17:24.57 | DevGirl | Xentac[work]: 2 ACTUALLY |
| 17:25.08 | DevGirl | Xentac: sorry for the caps :P |
| 17:25.40 | gonkulator | captain_proton: ./configure 'ing |
| 17:25.54 | Xentac[work] | DevGirl: you mean they said 8...? and it was actually 2...? |
| 17:26.16 | file[ermph] | Xentac[work]: bah |
| 17:26.27 | DevGirl | 8, but the best ones were when I was in love (2 of them) |
| 17:26.33 | Xentac[work] | ah, I see |
| 17:27.00 | Xentac[work] | but it was 2 consitantly for almost 4 years... |
| 17:27.15 | DevGirl | and lalo... lalo can't count them anymore :D |
| 17:27.31 | Xentac[work] | hehehe |
| 17:27.35 | DevGirl | :D |
| 17:28.29 | captain_proton | gonkulator: yes? |
| 17:28.30 | Xentac[work] | oh wait... |
| 17:28.33 | Xentac[work] | I remember the second thing... |
| 17:28.37 | Xentac[work] | it wasn't an email... |
| 17:28.49 | gonkulator | captain_proton: this is _really_ slow |
| 17:29.00 | DevGirl | Xentac[work]: when I asked lalo, he started counting his fingers and he was soooo slow to answer that I gave up :D |
| 17:30.57 | Xentac[work] | DevGirl: hehehe... probably a good thing ;o) |
| 17:31.51 | Xentac[work] | anyway |
| 17:32.15 | Xentac[work] | so many layers... |
| 17:32.16 | Xentac[work] | ta ta |
| 17:32.17 | DevGirl | bye |
| 17:34.23 | file[ermph] | and my emptying of temporary files continues... |
| 17:39.44 | file[ermph] | I put a spell on you! |
| 17:39.46 | fragglet | o_O |
| 17:39.53 | fragglet | picobot o_O |
| 17:39.54 | PicoBot | fragglet: what? |
| 17:39.59 | fragglet | picobot o_O is <reply> O_o |
| 17:39.59 | PicoBot | OK, fragglet. |
| 17:40.06 | fragglet | picobot O_o is <reply> o_O |
| 17:40.07 | PicoBot | ...but o_o is <reply> O_o... |
| 17:40.11 | fragglet | heh |
| 17:40.19 | fragglet | picobot forget o_O |
| 17:40.20 | PicoBot | fragglet: I forgot o_o |
| 17:40.38 | fragglet | picobot O_o is <reply> o_O | <reply> O_o | <reply> O_O | <reply> ._. | <reply> ^_^ |
| 17:40.39 | PicoBot | OK, fragglet. |
| 17:40.43 | fragglet | PicoBot: o_O |
| 17:40.45 | PicoBot | O_O |
| 17:40.47 | fragglet | PicoBot: o_O |
| 17:40.47 | PicoBot | ._. |
| 17:41.00 | DevGirl | how cute :) |
| 17:42.05 | gonkulator | PicoBot: O_o |
| 17:42.06 | PicoBot | O_O |
| 17:42.09 | gonkulator | PicoBot: O_o |
| 17:42.10 | PicoBot | ^_^ |
| 17:42.23 | file[ermph] | PicoBot: o.o |
| 17:42.24 | PicoBot | o.o is a funny face with an eye bigger than the other.. show that he is "surprised".. |
| 17:42.29 | file[ermph] | but |
| 17:42.36 | file[ermph] | that's not true |
| 17:43.04 | gonkulator | PicoBot: O_O |
| 17:43.05 | PicoBot | O_o |
| 17:43.07 | gonkulator | PicoBot: O_O |
| 17:43.09 | PicoBot | ._. |
| 17:43.20 | file[ermph] | PicoBot: O.O |
| 17:43.20 | PicoBot | i heard O.O was a funny face with an eye bigger than the other.. show that he is "surprised".. |
| 17:43.28 | file[ermph] | PicoBot: O_0 |
| 17:43.29 | PicoBot | file[ermph]: what? |
| 17:43.30 | file[ermph] | grrr |
| 17:43.31 | file[ermph] | PicoBot: O_O |
| 17:43.33 | PicoBot | ._. |
| 17:44.05 | file[ermph] | 0_0 = file st0ned |
| 17:44.12 | DevGirl | mhuawhawuhaw |
| 17:44.41 | fragglet | what have they done to me, to the air that i breathe and all i see |
| 17:44.48 | DevGirl | -_- = file stoned... cause file is canadian :D |
| 17:44.51 | file[ermph] | lol |
| 17:44.58 | DevGirl | :) |
| 17:45.51 | DevGirl | crotch! |
| 17:46.36 | gonkulator | PicoBot: attract girls |
| 17:46.44 | fragglet | lmao |
| 17:47.00 | DevGirl | PicoBot: attract guys |
| 17:47.00 | PicoBot | DevGirl: what? |
| 17:47.14 | DevGirl | someone had teached him this |
| 17:47.20 | DevGirl | PicoBot: attract men |
| 17:47.21 | PicoBot | DevGirl: sorry... |
| 17:47.30 | captain_proton | gonkulator: i'm going to go eat, i'll probably be back before svn finishes ^^ |
| 17:47.30 | DevGirl | PicoBot: attract geeks |
| 17:47.40 | gonkulator | captain_proton: it crashed out |
| 17:47.44 | captain_proton | gonkulator: :( |
| 17:47.45 | fragglet | PicoBot: attract ibot |
| 17:47.46 | PicoBot | ibot: wink wink |
| 17:47.46 | | hubba hubba |
| 17:47.46 | gonkulator | captain_proton: I got compile errors |
| 17:47.58 | gonkulator | captain_proton: ok |
| 17:48.07 | DevGirl | hubba hubba? mhuahwuwahuwahwauhwa |
| 17:48.42 | merlin262 | scanline: I'm checking out the latest CVS right now |
| 17:48.42 | gonkulator | ibot: forget wink wink |
| 17:48.42 | | i forgot wink wink, gonkulator |
| 17:48.48 | merlin262 | scanline: anything I should know about? |
| 17:49.29 | merlin262 | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 17:49.29 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 16 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: decides to take a nap [Mon Nov 4 16:34:21 2002] |
| 17:49.29 | gonkulator | ibot: wink wink is <reply> PicoBot: hubba hubba |
| 17:49.29 | | okay, gonkulator |
| 17:49.50 | merlin262 | oh hell |
| 17:50.09 | merlin262 | or write a dropin replacement to configure |
| 17:50.40 | file[ermph] | my parents have a friend over... |
| 17:51.55 | gonkulator | PicoBot: hubba hubba |
| 17:51.56 | PicoBot | gonkulator: excuse me? |
| 17:51.59 | fragglet | replacement for configure would be good |
| 17:52.10 | gonkulator | PicoBot: hubba hubba is <reply> ibot: wink wink |
| 17:52.11 | PicoBot | OK, gonkulator. |
| 17:52.15 | gonkulator | PicoBot: hubba hubba |
| 17:52.16 | PicoBot | ibot: wink wink |
| 17:52.16 | | PicoBot: hubba hubba |
| 17:52.37 | fragglet | ibot: attract picobot is <reply> picobot: hubba hubba |
| 17:52.37 | | fragglet: okay |
| 17:52.45 | fragglet | picobot attract ibot |
| 17:52.47 | PicoBot | ibot: wink wink |
| 17:52.47 | | PicoBot: hubba hubba |
| 17:53.56 | merlin262 | WTF WON'T IT COMPILE |
| 17:53.58 | merlin262 | :( |
| 18:00.09 | file | there I went... |
| 18:05.13 | lalo | hmm |
| 18:05.25 | lalo | there is a store in Porto Alegre named "gtk" |
| 18:12.59 | merlin262 | more than a few bugs... |
| 18:23.55 | Xentac | PicoBot: attract girls |
| 18:24.00 | Xentac | PicoBot: attract guys |
| 18:24.00 | PicoBot | Xentac: huh? |
| 18:24.08 | fragglet | picobot attract ibot |
| 18:24.09 | PicoBot | ibot: wink wink |
| 18:24.09 | | PicoBot: hubba hubba |
| 18:24.52 | Xentac | PicoBot: attract guys is <action> walks around in a short short skirt and a shirt with only one button done up |
| 18:24.52 | PicoBot | OK, Xentac. |
| 18:24.57 | Xentac | PicoBot: attract guys |
| 18:33.03 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 18:33.04 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 2 hours, 33 seconds ago, saying: decides to take a nap [Mon Nov 4 16:34:21 2002] |
| 18:33.08 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen darth_balls |
| 18:33.09 | PicoBot | darth_balls was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 19 minutes and 5 seconds ago, saying: is away: food then movie time [Mon Nov 4 17:15:54 2002] |
| 18:33.22 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen merlin262 |
| 18:33.23 | PicoBot | merlin262 was last seen on #picogui 14 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying: 's head explodes from trying to sift through scanline's code. [Mon Nov 4 18:20:50 2002] |
| 18:33.35 | gonkulator | merlin262: I need your help |
| 18:34.44 | Xentac | ummm... I didn't know that 2000 working on PPC... |
| 18:35.01 | gonkulator | virtualPC |
| 18:35.06 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 18:35.14 | Xentac | now... why would you want to do something like that? |
| 18:35.26 | gonkulator | so I can do my homework that has windows only software |
| 18:35.36 | Xentac | ah, I see |
| 18:36.33 | carpman | grrr... stupid cable provider |
| 18:36.39 | gonkulator | carpman: bless me spacelord for I have sinned |
| 18:36.52 | Xentac | so... by the time I get home... no one's talking anymore... |
| 18:36.53 | gonkulator | I have installed Windows on my beloved iBook |
| 18:37.11 | carpman | BAKA!!!!! |
| 18:37.12 | carpman | BAKA!!!!! |
| 18:37.12 | carpman | BAKA!!!!! |
| 18:37.13 | carpman | BAKA!!!!! |
| 18:37.57 | carpman | is it XP? |
| 18:38.54 | merlin262 | i got Picogui running rootless |
| 18:38.55 | gonkulator | carpman: no... 2000 pro |
| 18:38.59 | merlin262 | Houston: we have bugs! |
| 18:39.22 | carpman | merlin262: something for you to do :) |
| 18:39.42 | merlin262 | but don't tell scanline i said taht |
| 18:40.34 | carpman | merlin262: because you don't want to piss him off, our you don't want him to fix all the bugs before you get a chance to? |
| 18:40.46 | merlin262 | both |
| 18:40.52 | carpman | hehe |
| 18:40.53 | merlin262 | I think the build system... i dunno |
| 18:40.57 | merlin262 | i'm at a loss for words |
| 18:41.07 | merlin262 | ze build system, it is ze suck. |
| 18:41.13 | fragglet | oui |
| 18:41.44 | gonkulator | merlin262: am I forgiven, or must I do more penance? |
| 18:42.10 | Xentac | barbicane is doing a stream on WOPN now... |
| 18:42.30 | carpman | gonkulator: I'll let you off with a warning this time, next time I'll push you out of an airlock. |
| 18:42.30 | merlin262 | gonkulator: you must travel to the lands of deep Middle Earth.... |
| 18:42.44 | merlin262 | ...and toss the Laptop and its files into the fire's of Mount Doom.... |
| 18:42.48 | merlin262 | or something like that. |
| 18:44.02 | merlin262 | going for icecream, bbiab |
| 18:44.37 | file | mmm |
| 18:44.42 | carpman | nnn |
| 18:44.44 | carpman | ooo |
| 18:44.45 | carpman | ppp |
| 18:45.08 | file | clamps! |
| 18:45.47 | file | mmm kay? |
| 18:46.05 | carpman | file: no, I allready hit him with the tube. |
| 18:46.24 | lalo | merlin262: actually, I find it is less problematic than most things of equivalent complexity |
| 18:46.43 | lalo | try to compile fresco or berlin or crystalspace one of these days :-) |
| 18:47.29 | file | mmm |
| 18:47.29 | carpman | nnn |
| 18:47.29 | carpman | ooo |
| 18:47.29 | carpman | ppp |
| 18:47.29 | file | mmm |
| 18:47.29 | lalo | but I agree the build system could use a scrubbing. And scan probably agrees too. |
| 18:47.32 | carpman | nnn |
| 18:47.32 | carpman | ooo |
| 18:47.33 | carpman | ppp |
| 18:48.40 | lalo | wtf is a "halfop"? |
| 18:48.50 | captain_proton | lalo: can kick/ban, but can't op/deop |
| 18:48.51 | Xentac | is halfop like voice? |
| 18:48.57 | Xentac | ah, nevermind then |
| 18:49.03 | lalo | how interesting. |
| 18:49.08 | lalo | how is it done? |
| 18:49.14 | lalo | xirssi's is broke :-P |
| 18:49.22 | captain_proton | /mode +h <user> |
| 19:00.12 | lalo[out] | captain_proton: doesn't seem to exist on opn. |
| 19:00.16 | lalo[out] | but thanks anyway for the info :-) |
| 19:00.24 | lalo[out] | oops, there is no opn. I meant freenode. ;-) |
| 19:15.50 | carpman | New Phased-Array AP Boosts 802.11b Range |
| 19:15.55 | carpman | oooooooo yeah |
| 19:18.46 | file | I just messaged somebody with the article on that |
| 19:36.49 | KeyserSoze | did gonkulator really install windows on his ibook? |
| 19:37.01 | KeyserSoze | wouldn't that require a hardware emulator? |
| 19:37.06 | KeyserSoze | and wouldn |
| 19:37.11 | KeyserSoze | 't it suck, too. |
| 19:41.20 | carpman | KeyserSoze: virtualPC. Its fast enough to run XP. |
| 19:41.48 | merlin262 | VirtualPC? that fast? |
| 19:41.49 | merlin262 | kewl. |
| 19:41.55 | KeyserSoze | still seems evil though, doesn't it? |
| 19:42.06 | merlin262 | gonkey is going to hell..... |
| 19:42.41 | merlin262 | or... at least his laptop is |
| 19:43.27 | KeyserSoze | so why would anyone want picogui to run rootless in X? that seems kind of evil, too. |
| 19:43.29 | KeyserSoze | convenient though, I suppose. |
| 19:45.29 | KeyserSoze | the knoppix one is very impressive, and the gentoo one includes UT2k3 |
| 19:45.42 | file[ermph] | ermph |
| 19:46.30 | KeyserSoze | gonkulator: are you running mIRC, in windows? |
| 19:46.51 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: no |
| 19:46.55 | file[ermph] | mmm |
| 19:47.01 | KeyserSoze | gonkulator: got any virii lately, in windows? |
| 19:47.19 | KeyserSoze | gonkulator: got any BSOD lately, in windows? |
| 19:47.38 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: I don't use windows |
| 19:47.45 | KeyserSoze | s/attempy/attempt |
| 19:47.52 | gonkulator | I uninstalled it on the way home |
| 19:48.09 | file[ermph] | mmm |
| 19:48.10 | KeyserSoze | oh, good. someone impersonating you earlier said they put windows on your ibook. |
| 19:49.29 | merlin262 | carpman: still working on that sdl code? |
| 19:49.37 | carpman | merlin262: yeah, a little bit |
| 19:49.51 | carpman | I'm writing some code to translate math space into screen space |
| 19:49.58 | file[ermph] | Xentac? |
| 19:50.08 | carpman | gonkulator: whats up? |
| 19:50.31 | carpman | ahh, repentence |
| 19:50.39 | Xentac[laptop] | file[ermph]: what? |
| 19:50.41 | gonkulator | carpman: just planning my voting stuff for tomorrow |
| 19:50.47 | file[ermph] | Xentac[laptop]: sex test |
| 19:50.50 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 19:50.53 | carpman | oh, your voting? |
| 19:51.02 | gonkulator | of course :) |
| 19:51.03 | merlin262 | gonkulator: Dem or Rep? |
| 19:51.17 | gonkulator | merlin262: depends on the race |
| 19:51.28 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 19:51.40 | file[ermph] | vote? |
| 19:51.48 | merlin262 | Why don't we just tell him to get on down the road! |
| 19:51.58 | gonkulator | merlin262: for the senate race, I am voting Republican |
| 19:52.21 | merlin262 | gonkulator: u texan? |
| 19:52.37 | gonkulator | merlin262: no, colorado |
| 19:52.43 | gonkulator | have you heard of our tight senate race |
| 19:52.48 | gonkulator | Allard vs Strickland? |
| 19:52.58 | merlin262 | not really gonkulator |
| 19:53.01 | captain_proton | strickland: because he's not quite as much of a jackass |
| 19:53.24 | gonkulator | captain_proton: Allard, because he is pro-life |
| 19:54.15 | darth_balls | shall we call the computers the magi then? |
| 19:54.29 | carpman | Indeed. |
| 19:54.36 | file[ermph] | oops |
| 19:54.50 | carpman | Casper, Melchior, and Balthazar |
| 19:55.07 | carpman | file[ermph]: BEEEEEEEEEEEP |
| 19:55.11 | file[ermph] | carpman: yeah |
| 19:55.25 | carpman | merlin262: he uninstalled it, all is cool |
| 19:55.49 | merlin262 | Windows doesn't just uninstall |
| 19:55.56 | merlin262 | it's viral contamination is still tehre |
| 19:55.59 | merlin262 | OUT YE SPIRITS! |
| 19:56.18 | gonkulator | merlin262: I already wiped it!!!! |
| 19:56.51 | file[ermph] | gonkulator: many times? |
| 19:56.56 | carpman | file[ermph]: BEEEEEEEEEEEP |
| 19:57.02 | file[ermph] | carpman: nah not yet |
| 19:57.06 | file[ermph] | carpman: Hey guess what! |
| 19:57.10 | carpman | file[ermph]: BEEEEEEEEEEEP |
| 19:57.23 | file[ermph] | carpman: somebody gave me a big ATX Tower and PSU :) |
| 19:58.13 | carpman | file[ermph]: in Canada, I'm an illicit substance. |
| 19:58.34 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 19:58.37 | file[ermph] | ic |
| 19:58.42 | gonkulator | file: haven't you heard his namesake's song? |
| 19:59.03 | carpman | yay! |
| 19:59.05 | file[ermph] | gonkulator: no |
| 20:00.20 | DevGirl[out] | Zaankoku na tenshi no thesis... shounen ino shino aninare!!! (don't know if it's spelled correct) |
| 20:00.27 | DevGirl[out] | Aoi, Kaze ga ima... |
| 20:00.31 | DevGirl[out] | bah :) |
| 20:00.35 | carpman | 1) Azuka langley |
| 20:00.40 | carpman | 2) Ayaka |
| 20:00.43 | carpman | 3) Bulma |
| 20:00.53 | DevGirl[out] | Exceru |
| 20:00.54 | carpman | thats it |
| 20:00.58 | DevGirl[out] | Exceru |
| 20:01.08 | DevGirl[out] | Excel, for non japanese ppl :) |
| 20:01.17 | carpman | Excel wasn't a bitch |
| 20:01.24 | file[ermph] | bbl |
| 20:01.36 | darth_balls | DevGirl[out]: thanks for the song ^_^ |
| 20:01.37 | carpman | Excel was stupid, not mean |
| 20:01.37 | file[ermph] | time for the thing known as sleep |
| 20:01.47 | DevGirl[out] | :) excel is everything the author wants :) |
| 20:01.56 | carpman | yeah, more or less :) |
| 20:02.02 | carpman | Someone answer the poll! |
| 20:02.13 | darth_balls | carpman: who is ayaka? |
| 20:02.19 | carpman | darth_balls: tenchi muyo |
| 20:02.25 | darth_balls | asuka was kind of bitchy, but she had a rough childhood |
| 20:02.36 | carpman | pirncess of juri, poacher of Ryoko's sacred territory, tenchi |
| 20:02.38 | darth_balls | carpman: I can't answer your question cuz I don't watch tenchi or dbz |
| 20:03.26 | darth_balls | I was gonna guess Ayaka cuz I think everyone in tenchi is a bitch from the 2 episodes I've seen |
| 20:03.35 | merlin262 | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980522 |
| 20:03.46 | merlin262 | ^^^^^^^^ you must do this to your computer gonkulator! |
| 20:04.13 | darth_balls | hehe |
| 20:04.26 | merlin262 | followed by this: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980523 |
| 20:04.40 | DevGirl[out] | She is mean! she is loveless! she is REALLY HOT!!! |
| 20:04.42 | DevGirl[out] | :) |
| 20:05.04 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 20:05.25 | DevGirl[out] | and I like Dr. Slump also :) |
| 20:06.22 | KeyserSoze | say, what's it mean that "The CVS has been tagged with release-0-42"? |
| 20:06.35 | KeyserSoze | does that mean there is a module named "release-0-42"? |
| 20:06.57 | carpman | dunno |
| 20:07.42 | carpman | well, time for sleep |
| 20:07.44 | carpman | night all |
| 20:07.53 | merlin262 | too early carpman |
| 20:08.04 | merlin262 | or not |
| 20:10.26 | Xentac[laptop] | suggestions? |
| 20:10.29 | KeyserSoze | just say: "KeyserSoze: RTFM" |
| 20:10.44 | darth_balls | grrrrrrrrr |
| 20:10.50 | darth_balls | I can't think of a good title for one of my essays |
| 20:10.53 | KeyserSoze | oh, you were thinking of something else. |
| 20:12.33 | KeyserSoze | why type moo? |
| 20:12.45 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe... like a cow... |
| 20:13.40 | Xentac[laptop] | it's all good |
| 20:17.53 | KeyserSoze | hey, do most of y'all use CVS for picogui? |
| 20:19.00 | KeyserSoze | i checked out module "picogui" last time, which got *everything*. will checking out "picogui" again upgrade everything? or does it getting screwed up if the directories are already there? |
| 20:19.43 | Xentac[laptop] | am I still here? |
| 20:19.52 | KeyserSoze | yes. |
| 20:19.54 | kergoth | Xentac[laptop]: no |
| 20:19.57 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: shhh |
| 20:19.58 | KeyserSoze | as far as i know, you are. |
| 20:19.59 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:20.06 | KeyserSoze | kergoth can't see you, though. |
| 20:20.39 | KeyserSoze | no, a poke is to see if he's still conscious. |
| 20:21.07 | darth_balls | but if he isn't poked that means he's not here right? |
| 20:21.22 | merlin262 | argghhhhhhhh |
| 20:21.39 | darth_balls | what was that? |
| 20:21.41 | KeyserSoze | whuh? did someone kill merlin? |
| 20:22.14 | KeyserSoze | who had the most to gain? |
| 20:22.24 | darth_balls | ibot did |
| 20:22.25 | | darth_balls: bugger all, i dunno |
| 20:22.27 | KeyserSoze | darth_balls: do you use CVS? |
| 20:22.32 | darth_balls | KeyserSoze: nope |
| 20:22.49 | KeyserSoze | do you download the daily snapshot? |
| 20:22.59 | KeyserSoze | do you use picogui? |
| 20:23.02 | darth_balls | I don't work on picogui... yet |
| 20:23.29 | KeyserSoze | kergoth: do you use picogui? |
| 20:23.34 | darth_balls | I am going to try to find time this weekend to install a good distro of linux and get picogui setup |
| 20:24.08 | KeyserSoze | darth_balls: use gentoo, or else get the knoppix cd of debian, because it's cool. |
| 20:24.36 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: I use it occasionally on the zaurus, thats about it |
| 20:24.53 | darth_balls | KeyserSoze: I'm gonna try to find time for a gentoo install this weekend, yeah |
| 20:25.05 | darth_balls | but I don't know much, so I usually need gonkulator around to help |
| 20:25.09 | darth_balls | at least to coach me through |
| 20:25.13 | darth_balls | last time we tried it didn't work |
| 20:25.20 | KeyserSoze | darth_balls: do you have more than one PC? |
| 20:25.26 | darth_balls | nope |
| 20:25.29 | KeyserSoze | darth_balls: what step did it not work at? |
| 20:25.32 | darth_balls | I have a tower and an iBook |
| 20:25.43 | darth_balls | KeyserSoze: we got all the way through and when I tried to boot it didn't work |
| 20:25.49 | darth_balls | it's been like a month, so I don't remember exactly |
| 20:25.56 | KeyserSoze | oh, two machines though. that's good. cause then when the install stops, you can look for help on the web. |
| 20:25.57 | darth_balls | I've been really busy lately |
| 20:26.03 | darth_balls | right |
| 20:26.03 | KeyserSoze | did you use grub? |
| 20:26.06 | darth_balls | ya |
| 20:26.27 | KeyserSoze | one machine I installed gentoo on, the grub menu didn't come up when i rebooted. |
| 20:26.31 | darth_balls | it's mostly just been that with this philosophy midterm I haven't had time to try |
| 20:26.42 | KeyserSoze | so i just redid the grub part (twice) and then it worked. |
| 20:26.48 | darth_balls | but now that's finished so I'll probably try again this weekend |
| 20:27.42 | Xentac[laptop] | ;o) |
| 20:27.49 | KeyserSoze | i'm nearly positive i did it the exact same way each time. it *seems* like it didn't correctly write the boot record, but i don't know why that'd be. |
| 20:27.56 | KeyserSoze | Xentac: how? |
| 20:28.12 | KeyserSoze | PicoBot: seen scanline? |
| 20:28.12 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 55 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying: decides to take a nap [Mon Nov 4 16:34:21 2002] |
| 20:28.14 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: instead of accessing my stream go to http://stream.wopn.org:10000/broadband.ogg |
| 20:29.02 | darth_balls | wb merlin262 |
| 20:29.02 | KeyserSoze | can i have two urls in my xmms playlist? |
| 20:29.11 | Xentac[laptop] | yes |
| 20:29.12 | KeyserSoze | merlin262: we thought you were dead. |
| 20:29.20 | Xentac[laptop] | if one ends it tries to go to the other one |
| 20:29.27 | merlin262 | that's it |
| 20:29.30 | merlin262 | I'm killing gentoo |
| 20:29.32 | merlin262 | no more gentoo |
| 20:29.56 | Xentac[laptop] | scanline: hey you there? |
| 20:29.58 | Xentac[laptop] | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 20:29.58 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 57 minutes and 27 seconds ago, saying: decides to take a nap [Mon Nov 4 16:34:21 2002] |
| 20:30.05 | KeyserSoze | merlin262: what'd gentoo do? |
| 20:30.05 | Xentac[laptop] | ah.. napping... bah |
| 20:30.16 | merlin262 | KeyserSoze: it's just being generally unstable |
| 20:30.19 | merlin262 | where Debian was a rock... |
| 20:30.29 | KeyserSoze | merlin262: what options did you compile stuff with? |
| 20:30.31 | darth_balls | Xentac[laptop]: what is wopn? |
| 20:30.36 | merlin262 | KeyserSoze: the defaults |
| 20:30.50 | Xentac[laptop] | darth_balls: streaming radio of the open projects network... (or... freenode radio...) |
| 20:30.53 | Xentac[laptop] | they play free music |
| 20:30.55 | Xentac[laptop] | it's cool |
| 20:30.57 | darth_balls | oh |
| 20:31.02 | merlin262 | CFLAGS='-march=athlon-tbird -mcpu=athlon-tbird -O3 -pipe' |
| 20:31.04 | KeyserSoze | merlin262: defaults like for stage 3? |
| 20:31.04 | darth_balls | ^_^ |
| 20:31.09 | merlin262 | yea Ke |
| 20:31.11 | merlin262 | yea KeyserSoze |
| 20:31.14 | Xentac[laptop] | you can join #wopn as well... those are generally people who are listening |
| 20:31.21 | merlin262 | :( |
| 20:31.28 | merlin262 | all C++ proggies feck up |
| 20:31.36 | KeyserSoze | Xentac[laptop]: should I be able to listen to wopn now? |
| 20:31.44 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: yes |
| 20:31.55 | Xentac[laptop] | it's me! |
| 20:32.06 | darth_balls | MOO |
| 20:32.13 | KeyserSoze | merlin262: I got that too, for awhile, but haven't lately. also on an athlon. never got any gcc segfaults on a P4 or P2, but that might be coincidence. |
| 20:33.17 | merlin262 | KeyserSoze: I think g++ optimizations for athlon aren't safe. |
| 20:33.30 | KeyserSoze | merlin262: that'd explain a lot. |
| 20:33.51 | merlin262 | KeyserSoze: I'm going to download a more minimal image, and emerge the base system with -O2 -march=i586 ... |
| 20:33.58 | KeyserSoze | it'd also improve my self esteem to know the problems weren't my fault. |
| 20:34.03 | merlin262 | and then, i'm going to use my own patched kernel.... |
| 20:34.52 | KeyserSoze | ah. will you leave it at -O2 586, after that? |
| 20:34.57 | darth_balls | hehe Bill gate's moleman army |
| 20:35.10 | KeyserSoze | merlin262: do you use CVS for picogui? |
| 20:35.12 | gonkulator | merlin262: I did a gentoo install on an Athlon TB and an Athlon XP without any problems |
| 20:35.18 | gonkulator | stage 1 both times |
| 20:35.21 | darth_balls | resistance is futile wes |
| 20:35.24 | KeyserSoze | gonkulator: what optimizations? |
| 20:35.34 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: the default ones |
| 20:35.46 | KeyserSoze | there are default ones for a stage 1? |
| 20:35.54 | gonkulator | aye |
| 20:36.10 | darth_balls | Xentac[laptop]: that was way cool |
| 20:36.11 | KeyserSoze | is it -O3? |
| 20:36.32 | Xentac[laptop] | darth_balls: what was...? my bumper? |
| 20:36.47 | darth_balls | the moo thing |
| 20:36.53 | darth_balls | then the whole bill gates thing too |
| 20:36.57 | KeyserSoze | what moo thing? what bumper? |
| 20:36.57 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe yeah... I thought it'd be cool |
| 20:37.07 | Xentac[laptop] | the bill gates thing is a three dead trolls in a baggie skit |
| 20:37.12 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: are you not listening? |
| 20:37.22 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: http://xentac.net/~jchu/bumper2.ogg |
| 20:37.30 | Xentac[laptop] | just don't tell anyone about it ;o) |
| 20:38.19 | KeyserSoze | i am listening to http://stream.wopn.org:10000/broadband.ogg |
| 20:38.29 | KeyserSoze | what is http://xentac.net/~jchu/bumper2.ogg? |
| 20:38.29 | Xentac[laptop] | you shoudl have heard me then |
| 20:38.39 | Xentac[laptop] | that's my bumper... the one that you were supposed to have heard... |
| 20:38.42 | Xentac[laptop] | telling everyone to moo |
| 20:38.48 | KeyserSoze | i heard tdtiab. |
| 20:38.55 | Xentac[laptop] | I was right before that |
| 20:39.02 | KeyserSoze | i couldn't connect then :( |
| 20:39.16 | Xentac[laptop] | oh... well... listen to the bumper then... |
| 20:40.05 | KeyserSoze | the bumper appears to be the same as wopn. |
| 20:40.19 | Xentac[laptop] | huh? it definatly isn't.. |
| 20:40.53 | KeyserSoze | my xmms goes insane if i have two urls in the playlist. |
| 20:41.08 | Xentac[laptop] | really? |
| 20:41.11 | Xentac[laptop] | that shouldn't happen... |
| 20:41.30 | KeyserSoze | i can't get to your bumper. |
| 20:41.41 | Xentac[laptop] | just download it then |
| 20:42.37 | Xentac[laptop] | DevGirl[out]: tell picobot to attract guys |
| 20:45.29 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 20:45.29 | Xentac[laptop] | yeah... and you were slow ;o) |
| 20:45.29 | Xentac[laptop] | did you like the bumper? |
| 20:46.06 | KeyserSoze | the bumper was good. |
| 20:46.21 | Xentac[laptop] | good good |
| 20:46.26 | Xentac[laptop] | :P |
| 20:46.35 | KeyserSoze | but that might be because I am adjusted to your voice by now. |
| 20:46.37 | Xentac[laptop] | though... when I pronounced Xentac it was almost Xantac... |
| 20:47.17 | KeyserSoze | lol. "and how old is she?" "9? great, can I talk to her?" |
| 20:47.36 | Xentac[laptop] | it's difficult to say Xentac and make it sound like a zen.. |
| 20:48.02 | darth_balls | rofl |
| 20:48.03 | KeyserSoze | "and tell him to buy an imac. it's a computer especially built for idi... For mommies and daddies" |
| 20:48.11 | Xentac[laptop] | and now Barbicane is talking... |
| 20:48.13 | darth_balls | I loved that bit |
| 20:49.07 | darth_balls | MOO |
| 20:49.14 | darth_balls | haha |
| 20:49.20 | darth_balls | he mispronounced your name |
| 20:49.25 | Xentac[laptop] | darth_balls: he can't see you :P |
| 20:49.29 | Xentac[laptop] | it's all good |
| 20:49.35 | darth_balls | where is he looking? |
| 20:49.40 | darth_balls | rofl |
| 20:49.42 | Xentac[laptop] | darth_balls: #wopn |
| 20:50.33 | KeyserSoze | lol@darth |
| 20:54.20 | gonkey{AssHole} | darth_mall: help :) |
| 20:54.29 | darth_mall | gonkey{AssHole}: help what? |
| 20:54.37 | KeysHole | you know, be an asshole. |
| 20:54.41 | gonkey{AssHole} | how many assholes we got in here :) |
| 20:56.14 | gonkey{AssHole} | merlin{asshole}: join #wopn |
| 21:00.11 | darth_asshole | who is that misato chick? |
| 21:00.23 | Xentac[laptop] | misato is one of the admins... |
| 21:00.34 | darth_asshole | oh |
| 21:02.28 | merlin{} | blehhhhhhhhh |
| 21:02.30 | darth_mall | this place is kinda scary ^_^ |
| 21:02.43 | gonkulator | I am outta there :) |
| 21:02.51 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 21:02.54 | Xentac[laptop] | gonkulator: what was with the supporting you comment? |
| 21:03.02 | darth_mall | wha? |
| 21:03.05 | KeyserSoze | it was odd, that they'd not play music, or say anything interesting. |
| 21:03.11 | gonkulator | all the assholes :) |
| 21:03.12 | KeyserSoze | makes you wonder why people listen. |
| 21:03.20 | merlin{} | gonkulator: when the op speaks.... |
| 21:03.23 | merlin{} | sadly. |
| 21:03.24 | merlin{} | :( |
| 21:03.28 | merlin{} | kids tehre anyway |
| 21:03.39 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: hehehe... this is the talk radio guy... |
| 21:04.05 | KeyserSoze | so he's not gonna play music? |
| 21:04.13 | Xentac[laptop] | he does |
| 21:04.16 | Xentac[laptop] | sometimes |
| 21:04.30 | Xentac[laptop] | but this is the wrong guy to want to hear music from... |
| 21:05.48 | merlin{} | lol |
| 21:13.11 | darth_balls | wow, that room was kinda meh |
| 21:13.25 | KeyserSoze | it was better when xentac was on. |
| 21:13.30 | darth_balls | yeah |
| 21:13.45 | KeyserSoze | those people suck, that are on the radio now. |
| 21:13.50 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 21:13.50 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 4 hours, 41 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: decides to take a nap [Mon Nov 4 16:34:21 2002] |
| 21:14.07 | gonkulator | merlin{}: scanline won't be around for another 5 or 6 hours |
| 21:14.10 | darth_balls | how can they not like stewped.com |
| 21:14.10 | KeyserSoze | anyone in here know how to work CVS? |
| 21:15.01 | merlin{} | I commit stuff to sasteroids and it usually doesn't feck up |
| 21:15.54 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: unfortunely |
| 21:15.56 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: what do you want to do with CVS? |
| 21:16.09 | KeyserSoze | how do you get the latest stuff (anything that has changed) if you originally got the latest stuff by checking out "picogui" |
| 21:16.18 | Xentac[laptop] | 'cvs update' |
| 21:16.20 | merlin{} | cvs update |
| 21:16.21 | gonkulator | cvs update |
| 21:16.22 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: cvs up |
| 21:16.22 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:16.24 | kergoth | echo |
| 21:16.24 | Xentac[laptop] | probably 'cvs update -d' |
| 21:16.29 | gonkulator | yea |
| 21:16.33 | Xentac[laptop] | that gives you directories as well |
| 21:16.35 | gonkulator | cvs update -PdA |
| 21:16.38 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: setup your .cvsrc so you dont have to bother with cvs opts |
| 21:16.58 | kergoth | gonkulator: -A is iffy. depends. if he's pulled out from a tag that'll wipe the sticky tags and result in a pull from HEAD, which usually isnt what you want |
| 21:17.03 | kergoth | -Pd always |
| 21:17.16 | KeyserSoze | kergoth: where's a .cvsrc go? ~? or the main picogui directory? |
| 21:17.39 | KeyserSoze | nevermind, I read TFM |
| 21:17.44 | Xentac[laptop] | what's -P? |
| 21:18.52 | gonkulator | Xentac: RTFM |
| 21:18.57 | Xentac[laptop] | gonkulator: :P |
| 21:18.58 | merlin{} | Xentac: RTFM |
| 21:19.01 | KeyserSoze | -P Prune (remove) directories that are empty after |
| 21:19.01 | KeyserSoze | being updated, on checkout, or update. |
| 21:19.06 | Xentac[laptop] | ah |
| 21:19.53 | KeyserSoze | kergoth: is -Pd supposed to be an option I need for a specific command? |
| 21:22.10 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: happy about the music now? |
| 21:22.35 | KeyserSoze | Xentac[laptop]: happ*ier* |
| 21:22.49 | Xentac[laptop] | you don't like the music? or what? |
| 21:23.08 | KeyserSoze | no, it's alright. happy is just relative, is all. |
| 21:23.17 | Xentac[laptop] | ah, I see |
| 21:23.33 | Xentac[laptop] | at least you're not tech-supporting your dad while you have two laptops surrounding you and headphones on listening to WOPN |
| 21:25.44 | KeyserSoze | anyone who knows how CVS works: if I make a directory in the midst of the picogui CVS directory tree, will it be safe if I do a "cvs update"? |
| 21:25.45 | merlin{} | :mad: |
| 21:25.56 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: yep |
| 21:25.58 | KeyserSoze | merlin{}: why can't you have it? I missed something. |
| 21:26.05 | Xentac[laptop] | merlin262: you can have it if you're not in wopn |
| 21:26.07 | merlin262 | that's right, i'm not on wopn |
| 21:26.12 | Xentac[laptop] | then take it! |
| 21:26.18 | KeyserSoze | take that asshole! |
| 21:26.18 | merlin{asshole} | =D |
| 21:27.12 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 21:27.25 | KeyserSoze | what's a g-rated channel? is that where the OP is a pushy asshole? |
| 21:27.26 | Xentac[laptop] | I hear ya |
| 21:27.38 | Xentac[laptop] | g-rated is where they want to kep the topics, etc g-rated |
| 21:27.57 | merlin{asshole} | KeyserSoze: no saying fuck/shit/damn/hell/, no discussion of women or women body parts, etc.... |
| 21:28.20 | KeyserSoze | does the person who wants it to be g-rated have any sort of power? |
| 21:28.32 | KeyserSoze | or can they just kick you? |
| 21:29.02 | merlin{asshole} | G-rated channels, just kick you |
| 21:29.06 | merlin{asshole} | I've yet to find a G-rated network |
| 21:29.14 | merlin{asshole} | I suppose they do exhist |
| 21:30.36 | kergoth | words arent bad, people are bad |
| 21:30.37 | kergoth | sheesh |
| 21:30.38 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:30.43 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 21:30.57 | merlin{asshole} | lol |
| 21:32.01 | merlin{asshole} | <Infomastr> i have the recrod for being the only person to make an ISO of ms calculator |
| 21:32.06 | merlin{asshole} | ^^^^^^ I find that sad.. |
| 21:32.21 | kergoth | um |
| 21:32.22 | kergoth | ew |
| 21:32.32 | KeyserSoze | who the fuck said that? |
| 21:32.36 | KeyserSoze | that's insane. |
| 21:32.45 | merlin{asshole} | Infomastr, quote from bash.org |
| 21:33.22 | KeyserSoze | that's not anyone I know, I hope. |
| 21:37.11 | merlin{asshole} | hehe, I love bash.org |
| 21:40.25 | merlin{asshole} | http://www.bash.org/?15733 |
| 21:40.34 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: it's like geek talk... |
| 21:40.40 | kergoth | bash.org is spiffy |
| 21:40.58 | KeyserSoze | that sounded wrong. |
| 21:41.15 | KeyserSoze | i mean, I am reading it now. not that it is a usual activity of mine. |
| 21:54.16 | KeyserSoze | OMG |
| 21:54.20 | KeyserSoze | #1730 |
| 21:55.58 | KeyserSoze | jesus. #8814 |
| 21:56.29 | merlin262 | rated: 666 |
| 21:56.30 | merlin262 | roflol |
| 21:57.23 | KeyserSoze | i can't take it. |
| 21:57.28 | KeyserSoze | my heart is gonna give out. |
| 21:57.34 | merlin262 | ?????/// |
| 21:59.55 | kergoth | FUCK FUCK FUCK |
| 22:00.30 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: are you still listening to WOPN? |
| 22:01.00 | KeyserSoze | i'm laughing at bash.org too hard to do anything else. |
| 22:01.07 | KeyserSoze | <factorial_nine> "Male masturbation is a personal turn off for me. As a single woman, I'm especially looking for a man who doesn't masturbate, even while he's single." |
| 22:01.07 | KeyserSoze | <factorial_nine> GOOD LUCK, BITCH. |
| 22:01.15 | KeyserSoze | ROFLMAO |
| 22:02.00 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 22:02.03 | KeyserSoze | #1964 |
| 22:02.27 | KeyserSoze | or i'd just tell you the number for every one i read. |
| 22:06.23 | KeyserSoze | "you know what cracks me up.. trojan condoms, hehe.. I mean if you think about it, a trojan horse was really full off all these little men, and it was a trick to get them inside the fortress.. once inside, the horse BUSTS open, and all the little men come flowing out" |
| 22:06.51 | Xentac[laptop] | bwahahaha |
| 22:06.53 | kergoth | hahahaha |
| 22:09.45 | KeyserSoze | omg |
| 22:10.04 | KeyserSoze | i read this one, and fell out of my chair, and had a hard time breathing, because i was laughing so hard. |
| 22:10.11 | KeyserSoze | <Ouroboros> Has anyone ever logged into dev0n's FTP? |
| 22:10.12 | KeyserSoze | <Affe> ouro: that some kind of sexual innuendo? |
| 22:10.12 | KeyserSoze | <xpander> is that a euphemism? |
| 22:10.12 | KeyserSoze | <Ouroboros> Possibly |
| 22:10.12 | KeyserSoze | <Ouroboros> Shhh |
| 22:10.13 | KeyserSoze | <Ouroboros> I try to be subtle about these things. |
| 22:10.14 | KeyserSoze | <Affe> in that case, i 'log into dev0ns ftp' all the time |
| 22:10.17 | KeyserSoze | <Ouroboros> Yeah, she gave me her "login" but she won't reply to my "/msgs" |
| 22:10.18 | KeyserSoze | <Affe> dude i had 'sex' with her in the 'butt' the other day |
| 22:10.20 | KeyserSoze | <Affe> oh wait |
| 22:10.23 | KeyserSoze | <Affe> we're being subtle |
| 22:10.40 | kergoth | lol |
| 22:11.04 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 22:11.36 | kergoth | gotta love how he quotes 'sex' and 'butt' |
| 22:11.42 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:12.42 | KeyserSoze | i've got this disorder, where humor is cumulative, and joke's laughter effect has a half-life of like 3 minutes. so i start reading a page like bash.org, and after 10 minutes I collapse into a giggling convulsing hyperventilating mass. |
| 22:13.01 | KeyserSoze | and then 5 minutes later, I'm fine again. |
| 22:13.08 | KeyserSoze | or as fine as i'm going to get. |
| 22:13.12 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: I think most people are like that... |
| 22:13.28 | kergoth | yeah, most people do that |
| 22:14.02 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?12 |
| 22:14.04 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 22:14.12 | KeyserSoze | no seriously. i read the "sex"&"butt" one, and I fell out of my chair, and had a hard time breathing. is that really normal? |
| 22:14.21 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: yes |
| 22:14.30 | KeyserSoze | "it owns" ROLF |
| 22:14.49 | kergoth | hahahaha |
| 22:15.04 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?4322 |
| 22:16.22 | kergoth | <zugz> I don't know what they believe, but my God wants me to get some. |
| 22:16.23 | kergoth | aha |
| 22:16.56 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 22:17.17 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?14258 |
| 22:17.42 | kergoth | lol |
| 22:18.21 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?2767 <---- bwahahahhaha! |
| 22:19.11 | merlin262 | roflol |
| 22:19.17 | merlin262 | =) |
| 22:19.31 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?11497 |
| 22:19.58 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?5272 |
| 22:20.02 | kergoth | goddamn |
| 22:20.06 | kergoth | i need to stop browsing this shit |
| 22:20.11 | kergoth | my cheeks hurt |
| 22:20.15 | kergoth | i fucking hate that |
| 22:20.33 | Xentac[laptop] | cheeks hurt laughing and that's a bad thing? |
| 22:20.35 | KeyserSoze | <Fade_> heh, truent, you have a big fat dick up my ass |
| 22:20.35 | KeyserSoze | <Fade_> err your ass |
| 22:20.41 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 22:20.48 | kergoth | man, was that a freudian slip or what |
| 22:20.59 | KeyserSoze | * Synoptica bangs OutLore and Lord-Data |
| 22:20.59 | KeyserSoze | [Synoptica] fuck |
| 22:20.59 | KeyserSoze | [Synoptica] no i dont |
| 22:20.59 | KeyserSoze | * Synoptica bangs OutLore and Lord-Data's heads together |
| 22:21.03 | Xentac[laptop] | kergoth: that's a good one (11497) |
| 22:21.18 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 22:24.36 | kergoth | <Einer> Charging for porn is like caging a beautiful unicorn in a deep, dark dungeon. |
| 22:25.32 | Xentac[laptop] | <iMike> i was just thinking of hiring a man to service my septic system |
| 22:25.32 | Xentac[laptop] | <maff> is that the classy way to say you want to get fucked in the ass? |
| 22:25.37 | kergoth | haha |
| 22:25.48 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?4249 |
| 22:26.22 | Xentac[laptop] | <ikkenai> i don't have hard drives. i just keep 30 chinese teenagers in my basement and force them to memorize numbers |
| 22:26.40 | hikke | hehe |
| 22:26.54 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?14202 |
| 22:27.02 | Xentac[laptop] | kergoth: that leia one... that was bad... |
| 22:27.09 | kergoth | Xentac[laptop]: lol.. yeah |
| 22:27.37 | Xentac[laptop] | the cycle of ice cream! yay! |
| 22:28.04 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:28.28 | Xentac[laptop] | the cycle of ice cream! yay! |
| 22:28.30 | Xentac[laptop] | er... |
| 22:28.31 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?30509 |
| 22:28.41 | Xentac[laptop] | silly vaio and it's small shift key |
| 22:29.09 | kergoth | haha |
| 22:29.32 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?7496 |
| 22:30.03 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?24262 |
| 22:30.18 | kergoth | <@helloraj> if ya rape a positute would u get arrested for stealing? |
| 22:30.52 | kergoth | Xentac[laptop]: hahah |
| 22:31.00 | hikke | hehe |
| 22:31.04 | kergoth | goddamn, bash.org, how i love thee |
| 22:31.12 | Xentac[laptop] | :) |
| 22:31.13 | kergoth | (especially when drinking) |
| 22:31.27 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?7461 |
| 22:31.29 | hikke | Finnish ppl have got our "own bash.org", irc.ongelma.com :) |
| 22:31.33 | Xentac[laptop] | that one's not /that/ good... |
| 22:31.38 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 22:32.08 | kergoth | you know, you get in the habit of laughing at these |
| 22:32.09 | kergoth | and then |
| 22:32.12 | kergoth | you hit one that isnt funny |
| 22:32.15 | kergoth | and you half laugh anyway |
| 22:32.18 | kergoth | and then realize it sucks |
| 22:32.37 | Xentac[laptop] | yeah... |
| 22:33.56 | Xentac[laptop] | <cromicus> they're all like "everytime you say the word 'sex', jesus cries and floods a town in a third-world country" |
| 22:34.02 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?9370 |
| 22:34.11 | KeyserSoze | sex |
| 22:34.17 | KeyserSoze | (how do i know if it worked?) |
| 22:34.32 | Xentac[laptop] | kergoth: geez... geeks.... ;o) |
| 22:34.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:34.45 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: if you say it enough then all of them will be flooded! |
| 22:34.53 | KeyserSoze | good point. |
| 22:34.54 | kergoth | Xentac[laptop]: and again, how would you know if it worked? |
| 22:35.06 | KeyserSoze | it'd be on CNN if they were *all* flooded |
| 22:35.10 | kergoth | "excuse me, are all the third world towns flooded at the moment? no? okay, thanks" |
| 22:35.10 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 22:35.14 | KeyserSoze | or maybe even slashdot |
| 22:35.21 | Xentac[laptop] | slashdot knows everything! |
| 22:36.07 | Xentac[laptop] | <sortof> i slept on a glowstick wrong |
| 22:36.23 | kergoth | dear god man, i dont want to know how you sleep on a glowstick right |
| 22:36.31 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 22:37.37 | merlin262 | #gentoo is too busy to get any questions answerd. |
| 22:37.40 | merlin262 | blehhh. |
| 22:37.47 | KeyserSoze | merlin262: what question? |
| 22:37.52 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?19145 |
| 22:37.55 | KeyserSoze | about all the segfaults? |
| 22:37.59 | KeyserSoze | in gcc. |
| 22:38.00 | merlin262 | KeyserSoze: trying to get my ebuild on the distro. :) |
| 22:38.36 | merlin262 | KeyserSoze: I'm using the i686 optimized binaries, and things seem to work a lot, LOT, better. |
| 22:38.51 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?34278 |
| 22:39.18 | KeyserSoze | is there gonna be a picogui ebuild? |
| 22:39.22 | Xentac[laptop] | kergoth: that's sort of a standard thing though... |
| 22:39.29 | merlin262 | ebuilds area pain in the arse..... |
| 22:39.41 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?5410 |
| 22:39.57 | Xentac[laptop] | <Gonzman>I have magical sperm that creates ugly children |
| 22:40.00 | kergoth | lol |
| 22:42.28 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?17152 |
| 22:43.22 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?15983 |
| 22:43.44 | kergoth | haha |
| 22:44.35 | KeyserSoze | lol. the one on fire. |
| 22:44.40 | Xentac[laptop] | kergoth: bwahahaha, nice |
| 22:45.31 | Xentac[laptop] | <Camo> tress, how do I make a program that makes the cd spin really fast and does't stop and if you open the cdrom drive, the cd flies out and cuts your throat? |
| 22:46.30 | merlin262 | for a second, I thought that was real, and I was still on #gentoo |
| 22:46.36 | KeyserSoze | it'd be better if gentoo was less popular |
| 22:46.44 | merlin262 | yea |
| 22:46.48 | merlin262 | all n00b stuff going on ther |
| 22:46.48 | KeyserSoze | it got slashdotted, and then you get lame people like me trying to use it. |
| 22:46.51 | kergoth | Xentac[laptop]: dood, i so need that program |
| 22:46.54 | kergoth | Xentac[laptop]: hehe |
| 22:47.17 | Xentac[laptop] | <Jikg> Might anyone have a CD burner that could answer a few quick questions? |
| 22:47.17 | Xentac[laptop] | <SinclairC> my CD burner doesn't talk to strangers |
| 22:47.17 | Xentac[laptop] | <SinclairC> >:( |
| 22:47.36 | Xentac[laptop] | http://bash.org/?7770 |
| 22:48.04 | KeyserSoze | <cndz> what would jesus do> |
| 22:48.04 | KeyserSoze | <Josh> probably get crucified and die |
| 22:48.15 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 22:49.02 | Xentac[laptop] | <phiber> advice: dont call a girl ugly when you have your manhood in her mouth ;/ |
| 22:49.11 | merlin262 | oucH! |
| 22:49.28 | Xentac[laptop] | <[VU]JackFrost> ok, explain this... i make 10000 on 3dmark2001 |
| 22:49.28 | Xentac[laptop] | <[VU]JackFrost> but i can't run half of my winamp visual thingys at full screen without jerking |
| 22:49.28 | Xentac[laptop] | <Modman> lol |
| 22:49.28 | Xentac[laptop] | <[VU]JackFrost> without the screen jerking, that is |
| 22:49.43 | Xentac[laptop] | <Bender`> When i was little i took a bath with my dad and when he stood up from the tub his penis slapped me across the face |
| 22:49.46 | Xentac[laptop] | so many quotes... |
| 22:50.52 | kergoth | lol |
| 22:51.13 | Xentac[laptop] | <psmylie> the man's an idiot. he tried for three years to beat tetris because I told him there was an end boss. |
| 22:51.27 | hikke | :D |
| 22:51.46 | Xentac[laptop] | <Icereaver> how do i go afk? |
| 22:51.50 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?5727 |
| 22:52.15 | Xentac[laptop] | I see... |
| 22:54.26 | KeyserSoze | <Lepper> i told my roommate's girlfriend that she needs to hook me up with some chicks |
| 22:54.26 | KeyserSoze | <Lepper> and she's like "dude, i bring my friends over... and all you do is play video games!" |
| 22:54.34 | merlin262 | Houston: we have a succesfull X install! |
| 22:54.36 | merlin262 | finally |
| 22:54.38 | merlin262 | my new gentoo |
| 22:54.39 | merlin262 | works! |
| 22:54.41 | merlin262 | w00t w00t!~ |
| 22:54.45 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: bwahahaha |
| 22:55.03 | merlin262 | my plan worked |
| 22:55.12 | merlin262 | the new partition feels a lot more stable too. |
| 22:55.20 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: lol |
| 22:56.09 | hikke | Hmmph |
| 22:56.18 | Xentac[laptop] | yay beers! |
| 22:56.44 | KeyserSoze | anyone want them? first come first serve. I live in Michigan, BTW. |
| 22:56.47 | merlin262 | 1 year... i'll be able to buy my own..... |
| 22:57.03 | merlin262 | until then... it's nice to have a heavy German influence in the family |
| 22:57.15 | KeyserSoze | two icehouse, one budweiser. all bottles. |
| 22:57.42 | KeyserSoze | (D1) ignore me |
| 22:57.42 | KeyserSoze | (D1) 9 out of 10 women do. |
| 22:58.36 | Xentac[laptop] | Dainichi> I'm going to start a band called Hand Solo. |
| 22:58.36 | Xentac[laptop] | Dainichi> Our first song will be a heavy metal cover of "I Touch Myself" |
| 22:58.41 | hikke | Damn, this is hard...I want to remote control mirc with php :/ |
| 22:59.47 | kergoth | <hye> sex caffeine and computing power |
| 22:59.50 | kergoth | <hye> the trinity |
| 22:59.56 | Xentac[laptop] | hehehe |
| 23:01.09 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?27028 |
| 23:01.14 | merlin262 | 12:01 - ebuild report |
| 23:01.18 | merlin262 | 12:08 - ebuild assigned |
| 23:02.20 | Xentac[laptop] | kergoth: that's a nice one! |
| 23:02.45 | kergoth | Xentac[laptop]: gonna try that one out? :P |
| 23:03.19 | Xentac[laptop] | kergoth: hehehe... I don't think so.. |
| 23:03.28 | KeyserSoze | <wild-> so a guy goes to the drugstore, he says 'i need some condoms for my 11 year old daughter' druggist says 'your daughters sexually active at age 11?' he says 'nah she just lies there like her mother' |
| 23:03.42 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: booooo :P |
| 23:03.42 | kergoth | Xentac[laptop]: hehe |
| 23:03.50 | kergoth | KeyserSoze: egad |
| 23:03.51 | KeyserSoze | <Infe> what happens if you try to recharge an alkaline battery |
| 23:03.51 | KeyserSoze | <HomerJ> blows up |
| 23:03.51 | KeyserSoze | <Andrigaar> Don't they explode? |
| 23:03.51 | KeyserSoze | <Andrigaar> I wonder if it's violent or just some leaking battery acid. |
| 23:03.51 | KeyserSoze | <Infe> i think it's all a scam to get you to pay more for 'rechargeables' and --- |
| 23:03.54 | KeyserSoze | <Infe> AHHHHHHHHHHH MY FACE |
| 23:03.56 | KeyserSoze | <Infe> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 23:04.10 | Xentac[laptop] | actually... up until a month or two ago I had never been slapped... |
| 23:04.13 | Xentac[laptop] | (in the face) |
| 23:04.28 | kergoth | i still havent, thankfully |
| 23:04.28 | hikke | hehe |
| 23:04.30 | Xentac[laptop] | KeyserSoze: hehehe, nice |
| 23:04.42 | Xentac[laptop] | kergoth: personally, I don't think I deserved it... but that's just me |
| 23:05.03 | hikke | In my school even boys slap each other in the face :) |
| 23:05.32 | KeyserSoze | merlin262: really? what for? |
| 23:05.32 | kergoth | eh? |
| 23:05.47 | merlin262 | KeyserSoze: disrespected da mom. |
| 23:05.54 | Xentac[laptop] | merlin262: hehehe |
| 23:05.56 | KeyserSoze | oh, that doesn't count. |
| 23:05.59 | merlin262 | da mom laid the smack down. |
| 23:06.01 | kergoth | that definately doestn count |
| 23:06.06 | merlin262 | damn. |
| 23:06.17 | KeyserSoze | i only want to hear stories about how you groped a really hot chick, and then she smacked you. |
| 23:06.31 | KeyserSoze | not just merlin262, anyone can share a story. |
| 23:06.39 | merlin262 | that hasn't happened.... to me... sadly.... |
| 23:07.14 | KeyserSoze | that was cool! |
| 23:07.15 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?16131 |
| 23:07.32 | merlin262 | knew some1 on IRC once |
| 23:07.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:07.38 | merlin262 | he came in all drunk |
| 23:07.43 | merlin262 | his wife was in the other room |
| 23:07.54 | merlin262 | we persudaded him to put on a blanket, jump in the room necked, and shout |
| 23:08.00 | merlin262 | "I'M SEX MAN" |
| 23:08.05 | KeyserSoze | rofl. kergoth, that was crazy |
| 23:08.42 | merlin262 | he says, it's never worked the same sense.... |
| 23:08.57 | KeyserSoze | worked the same? |
| 23:09.16 | merlin262 | she knee'd him and "it turned inside out" |
| 23:10.01 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?21282 |
| 23:10.18 | merlin262 | it was funny when it happened |
| 23:10.21 | merlin262 | had to be there I guess. :/ |
| 23:10.30 | kergoth | merlin262: that scares me |
| 23:10.48 | merlin262 | lol |
| 23:12.37 | merlin262 | now that I've madea f ool of myself |
| 23:14.34 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?3224 |
| 23:14.35 | kergoth | haha |
| 23:14.52 | hikke | Blah, criten is full |
| 23:16.03 | KeyserSoze | <Erik_N> Everyone has a dark secrets... some ppl are killers, some ppl are homo.. I use mac |
| 23:16.13 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 23:16.14 | KeyserSoze | <sphynx> crushes suck |
| 23:16.14 | KeyserSoze | <sphynx> i hate em |
| 23:16.14 | KeyserSoze | <sphynx> the dilemma, the desperation |
| 23:16.14 | KeyserSoze | <sphynx> the hopes dashed etc |
| 23:16.14 | KeyserSoze | <shirazz> the masturbation |
| 23:16.15 | KeyserSoze | <shirazz> hehehe |
| 23:16.17 | KeyserSoze | <bark> the masturbation is ok. |
| 23:16.19 | KeyserSoze | <Kyoto> hey.. the masturbation is good.. |
| 23:16.41 | ^majik^ | lol |
| 23:16.54 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 23:17.56 | merlin262 | hi bbeattie |
| 23:18.02 | bbeattie | hello |
| 23:18.04 | kergoth | lol |
| 23:18.15 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?39434 |
| 23:18.18 | kergoth | some of these are so fucked |
| 23:18.19 | kergoth | lol |
| 23:18.21 | kergoth | hey bbeattie |
| 23:18.25 | bbeattie | I was just looking to see if anyone has picogui/gtk working on a zaurus, and if there's an ipkg for gtk, |
| 23:18.38 | kergoth | picogui/gtk? |
| 23:18.58 | KeyserSoze | do you mean "picogui or gtk"? |
| 23:19.08 | KeyserSoze | cause, how is picogui related to gtk? |
| 23:19.11 | Xentac | bbeattie: there are ipkgs... if you go to the ipkg find... |
| 23:19.26 | bbeattie | hrm, I think I completely confused myself and thought picogui was a stripped down version of XFree. |
| 23:19.32 | merlin262 | HOW DARE YOU PEOPLE HAVE ON TOPIC DISCUSSIOn |
| 23:19.48 | Xentac | bbeattie: nope... picogui is totally totally different |
| 23:19.58 | kergoth | bbeattie: picogui is something else entirely |
| 23:20.02 | bbeattie | picogui is a window manager? |
| 23:20.05 | kergoth | bbeattie: and picogui packages are available for the zaurus |
| 23:20.07 | kergoth | bbeattie: no |
| 23:20.29 | kergoth | bbeattie: not in the sense your'e thinking, cause the sense you're thinking most likely involves X. picogui has nothing to do with X |
| 23:20.33 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:20.43 | merlin262 | what is a good explaantion of picogui? |
| 23:20.44 | Xentac | except maybe output drivers... |
| 23:20.55 | merlin262 | picogui is a nifty client/server gui that runs on X/et.c.. |
| 23:21.07 | KeyserSoze | picogui is the alpha and the omega! |
| 23:21.23 | Xentac | kergoth: hehehe for 3224 |
| 23:21.24 | bbeattie | Someone mentioned you could get x-chat to work with picogui, is that a true statement? picogui replaces gtk calls, or something? |
| 23:21.36 | Xentac | no... x-chat was ported to picogui |
| 23:21.39 | merlin262 | there's an xchat port for pigogui |
| 23:21.55 | KeyserSoze | bbeattie: holy shit! did you just read when I said that over in #wopn? |
| 23:21.56 | Xentac | x-chat has very seperated app logic and graphics logic |
| 23:21.57 | merlin262 | bbeattie: it's not really ready for production use... :( |
| 23:21.59 | bbeattie | ahh, is it easier to port from gtk to picogui, than gtk to qte? |
| 23:22.12 | bbeattie | KeyserSoze: exactly, |
| 23:22.26 | Xentac | no, it's not easy to port from gtk to picogui |
| 23:22.48 | KeyserSoze | maybe it's just easy to port x-chat? |
| 23:22.54 | kergoth | bbeattie: its just that xchat is well architected |
| 23:22.56 | kergoth | yeap |
| 23:23.01 | merlin262 | if the app is written well.... |
| 23:23.17 | Xentac | kergoth: 39434 was good as well |
| 23:23.19 | bbeattie | KeyserSoze: openprojects is a lot smaller than I even thought, when I joined here, and I had seen 6 nicks elsewhere, and scanline that I was told about was in #tuxscreens, zaurus, openzaurus, here, wopn, and bzflag (Who I worked with at Lineo) and so on.. |
| 23:23.30 | merlin262 | I imagine it would be easier to move from gtk->picogui tho |
| 23:24.09 | merlin262 | especially as picogui has nice C bindings, as opposed to QT.... |
| 23:24.18 | bbeattie | I'm attempting to get the author of roadmap to re-write his API to make it higher level so I can port it to the Zaurus. |
| 23:24.24 | kergoth | bbeattie: I didnt realize you had worked with tim |
| 23:24.27 | bbeattie | So I was just curious. |
| 23:24.35 | kergoth | spiffy |
| 23:25.29 | bbeattie | kergoth: he works at Lineo, and I did in the past, before the bust. :-) |
| 23:25.57 | merlin262 | a linux job.. that must've been the shiznet |
| 23:26.25 | bbeattie | I have only worked for Linux companies, ever. |
| 23:26.36 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?7782 |
| 23:26.43 | merlin262 | but, i'm also a student... |
| 23:26.44 | merlin262 | blehhh |
| 23:26.46 | kergoth | bbeattie: ah gotcha |
| 23:26.52 | Xentac | kergoth: nice |
| 23:26.53 | bbeattie | http://freshmeat.net/redir/roadmap/32605/url_homepage/roadmap |
| 23:27.09 | KeyserSoze | bbeattie: was it just lineo though? or some besides them? |
| 23:27.32 | bbeattie | well, this is better, http://www.geocities.com/pascal_f_martin/roadmap/screenshots.html |
| 23:27.49 | bbeattie | tim worked at caldera when I did too, |
| 23:28.34 | kergoth | caldera.. i dont like them much. who the fuck decided to dump the SCO name for 'caldera' anyway |
| 23:28.38 | kergoth | dumbasses |
| 23:29.13 | kergoth | anyway |
| 23:29.28 | KeyserSoze | bbeattie: do you work on roadmap? |
| 23:30.49 | bbeattie | KeyserSoze: I will be, there still is a bit of reworking that needs to be done to it before it's ready to be ported. GTK is tied in heavily to it. When Pascal finishes putting the GTk calls into higher level calls and not use gtk's build in classes, I will be porting it to QT. |
| 23:31.06 | KeyserSoze | where exactly does the map data come from? |
| 23:31.21 | bbeattie | tiger (USGS vector maps) |
| 23:31.37 | bbeattie | It's just the US, but it's free. |
| 23:31.51 | merlin262 | very nifty stuff. |
| 23:32.09 | KeyserSoze | do you have a link? |
| 23:32.12 | kergoth | nice |
| 23:32.15 | KeyserSoze | (for the data, I mean) |
| 23:32.59 | bbeattie | Pascal has done some amazing work on it, for building roadmap's own highly compressed map files, but *sigh* gtk is too tied into it, and I don't know GTK so I can't re-write parts as well fast as he can. |
| 23:33.43 | bbeattie | back to topic, what is the size of picogui's libraries? |
| 23:33.55 | Xentac | bbeattie: topic?!? bah! |
| 23:34.00 | Xentac | it says in the FAQ |
| 23:34.01 | kergoth | dood |
| 23:34.02 | kergoth | this is #picogui |
| 23:34.07 | kergoth | what are you doing being on topic |
| 23:34.18 | Xentac | kergoth: more bash.org! go now! |
| 23:34.39 | kergoth | hrmph, fine then! |
| 23:34.41 | KeyserSoze | bbeattie: are you gonna port roadmap to picogui? |
| 23:34.42 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 23:34.55 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: he said he wanted to port it to qtopia... |
| 23:35.02 | KeyserSoze | damnit. |
| 23:35.25 | KeyserSoze | if he ported it to picogui, I'd have an excuse to give up on my crappy-assed picogui moving-map navigation app. |
| 23:36.00 | Xentac | damn... I tried to go to bash.org and accidently typed bach.org |
| 23:37.13 | kergoth | doh |
| 23:38.23 | Xentac | http://bash.org/?43163 |
| 23:39.11 | bbeattie | KeyserSoze: well, if you want to talk to Pascal, he wrote it in GTK because that is what he runs on his IPAQ, if you can get him to use picogui on his IPAQ (Which I believe picogui can run on the IPAQ) then he may do it, and save supporting multiple gui libraries. |
| 23:41.19 | KeyserSoze | bbeattie: how would i talk to Pascal? |
| 23:41.45 | KeyserSoze | i don't see any email info on the webpage. |
| 23:42.01 | KeyserSoze | does he hang out somewhere on irc? |
| 23:42.10 | Xentac | PicoBot: seen vagina? |
| 23:42.11 | PicoBot | I haven't seen 'vagina', Xentac |
| 23:42.14 | bbeattie | KeyserSoze: true, I hunted for his e-mail, I'm not sure if he gives it out, I forgot. If you can come up with a write-up about why it would be good to stop writing in gtk and use picogui, I'll forward it to him. |
| 23:42.19 | kergoth | Xentac: that was lame |
| 23:42.21 | kergoth | Xentac: :) |
| 23:42.22 | Xentac | well,, at least PicoBot's not getting any... |
| 23:42.35 | Xentac | http://bash.org/?43000 |
| 23:42.38 | bbeattie | pscal doesn't get online much at all, and I've asked to talk on irc with him, but no luck so far. |
| 23:43.04 | Xentac | * OverlordQ changes topic to 'Forget Bayes, We need the Stalin Mail Filter (TM) -- it detects spam, hunts down the spammer, and exiles them to Siberia.' |
| 23:43.21 | kergoth | lol |
| 23:44.38 | merlin262 | w/o how do I install xine |
| 23:44.42 | merlin262 | and, Xfree86 doesn't work |
| 23:44.43 | merlin262 | blehhhhh |
| 23:45.31 | Xentac | http://bash.org/?4281 |
| 23:45.31 | bbeattie | I've got to get some sleep. |
| 23:45.31 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?5417 |
| 23:45.35 | Xentac | <erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. |
| 23:45.52 | Xentac | kergoth: bwahahaha |
| 23:46.09 | Xentac | <tatclass> YOU ALL SUCK DICK |
| 23:46.09 | Xentac | <tatclass> er. |
| 23:46.09 | Xentac | <tatclass> hi. |
| 23:46.09 | Xentac | <andy\code> A common typo. |
| 23:46.09 | Xentac | <tatclass> the keys are like right next to each other. |
| 23:46.17 | KeyserSoze | lol |
| 23:46.20 | KeyserSoze | i love that one. |
| 23:46.34 | Xentac | <xterm> The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? |
| 23:46.55 | kergoth | lol |
| 23:46.55 | Xentac | http://bash.org/?23396 |
| 23:47.06 | kergoth | Xentac: thats so true. we need natural selection to work again |
| 23:47.11 | Xentac | yeah |
| 23:47.28 | Xentac | the problem right now is that the people it happens to have learned about litigation... |
| 23:47.43 | Xentac | http://bash.org/?5775 |
| 23:48.09 | Xentac | <blazemore> LITTLETON, Colo. - Colorado officials plan to try a 15-year-old boy as an adult for allegedly offering a Sony PlayStation to have his aunt killed. |
| 23:48.10 | Xentac | <FlipTopBx> is it modded? |
| 23:48.27 | Xentac | http://bash.org/?15641 |
| 23:48.30 | Xentac | he he he |
| 23:48.37 | Xentac | <BombScare> i beat the internet |
| 23:48.38 | Xentac | <BombScare> the end guy is hard |
| 23:48.44 | Xentac | <studdud> what the fuck is wtf |
| 23:48.46 | Xentac | so many of them... |
| 23:49.09 | kergoth | http://bash.org/?913 |
| 23:49.09 | Xentac | <calin> we had a guy at school that wore black lipstick.. and was all gothy.. and then one day we caught him buying an assvibrator |
| 23:49.09 | Xentac | <ecoli> ew. |
| 23:49.09 | Xentac | <ecoli> wait, you "caught" him? |
| 23:49.09 | Xentac | <ecoli> like, you were behind him in line at the assvibrator store? |
| 23:49.09 | Xentac | <Aero> he doesnt answer |
| 23:49.11 | Xentac | *** Quits: calin (No route to host) |
| 23:49.17 | kergoth | lol |
| 23:49.18 | Xentac | safety warning on that last one.. |
| 23:49.58 | KeyserSoze | <QuoteBawt> I know very few girls into emulation, even fewer into drinking "beer" and even fewer with an IQ above room temperature |
| 23:49.58 | KeyserSoze | <freeweed> <QuoteBawt> I know very few girls <--- if you wanna say something just say it |
| 23:49.58 | KeyserSoze | <scienide_> wimiins should go back to the kitchen |
| 23:50.42 | Xentac | the assvibrator store... hehehe |
| 23:51.06 | Xentac | http://bash.org/?12431 |
| 23:51.39 | kergoth | haha |
| 23:51.50 | KeyserSoze | [16:56] <van|go`eagles> btw |
| 23:51.50 | KeyserSoze | [16:56] <van|go`eagles> your gf sucks at cs |
| 23:51.50 | KeyserSoze | [16:57] <en4cer> lol |
| 23:51.50 | KeyserSoze | [16:57] <en4cer> shes better at other things |
| 23:51.50 | KeyserSoze | [16:57] <Grifter-> like quake? |
| 23:51.51 | KeyserSoze | [16:57] <en4cer> lol |
| 23:52.18 | Xentac | http://bash.org/?21516 |
| 23:52.27 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 23:52.53 | KeyserSoze | <splice> wow, irc really loses its luster when you have a girlfriend |
| 23:52.53 | KeyserSoze | <splice> be back much later |
| 23:53.20 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 23:53.36 | captain_proton | damn bash.org is good for wasting time |
| 23:53.41 | Xentac | <Aegis> Dude this chick said she wouldn't give me head because she doesn't do that |
| 23:53.42 | Xentac | <Vyse> They still make those? |
| 23:54.13 | Xentac | http://bash.org/?5598 |
| 23:54.17 | kergoth`zzz | night |
| 23:54.24 | Xentac | night kergoth`zzz |
| 23:54.31 | KeyserSoze | g'night |
| 23:54.41 | KeyserSoze | <Anagon> IT'S UP! I GOT IT UP! |
| 23:54.41 | KeyserSoze | <Anagon> (no, not like that) |
| 23:54.50 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 23:54.57 | ^majik^ | haha, this is good- have you guys posting links from bash.org quotes, and a chick in another channel posting links to funny pics at boners.com :P |
| 23:54.59 | Xentac | <+kritical> christin: you need to learn how to figure out stuff yourself.. |
| 23:55.00 | Xentac | <+Christin1> how do i do that |
| 23:55.19 | Xentac | ^majik^: you got your humour content for the night, eh? |
| 23:55.40 | Xentac | <ckx> women ask for it |
| 23:55.40 | ^majik^ | Xentac: I guess you could say that >:) |
| 23:55.40 | Xentac | <ckx> they act all old and mature |
| 23:55.40 | Xentac | <ckx> and then you stick your cock up their ass |
| 23:55.40 | Xentac | <ckx> and they get all bitchy |
| 23:55.40 | Xentac | <ckx> "I"M ONLY 13, I'M ONLY 13!!!" |
| 23:58.17 | Xentac | <kow`> "There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't." |
| 23:58.17 | Xentac | <SpaceRain> That's only 2 types of people, kow. |
| 23:58.17 | Xentac | <SpaceRain> STUPID |
| 23:58.45 | Xentac | <DaZE> at my school.. the cop from DARE passed around 3 joints to show everyone... and he said "if i dont get all three of these back this schools getting locked down and everyones getting searched till i find it.." and like 30 minutes later when everyone got to see 'em and they got passed back the cop had 4 |
| 23:58.47 | KeyserSoze | lol. i almost got that on a tshirt. |
| 23:58.56 | KeyserSoze | (just the quoted part) |
| 23:59.15 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: yeah... it'd be a good one |
| 23:59.44 | KeyserSoze | <Kacey> if I wsa president, I would change the "In God We Trust" to "In Goats We Thrust" |
| 23:59.57 | Xentac | http://bash.org/?8102 |
