irclog2html for #picogui on 20021115

00:00.07merlin262blehhh
00:08.45merlin262hey scanline
00:08.48scanlinehi merlin262
00:09.00merlin262the WT editor helping you find bugs?
00:09.11scanlinefound a few
00:09.30scanlineI'll definitely want to use it for optimization later, I think it's the most widget-intensive app we have so far
00:10.02scanlinehehe
00:10.07merlin262(i wish)
00:10.18scanlinethough it's been a good experiment for me learning python
00:10.28scanlineand it's to the point where you can export XWT and WT files
00:10.38merlin262import?
00:10.43scanlineno import yet :)
00:10.52merlin262what good is save w/o restore?
00:10.59scanlinethere's also no UI for creating new widgets
00:11.04merlin262and, I'm sure that this app needs: (drumroll) TAB WIGETS
00:11.09scanlineI'm still trying to decide how that should work
00:11.19scanlineactually, I don't think I need tabs
00:11.33merlin262some apps do tho. :(
00:11.37scanlineyeah
00:11.54merlin262I'm curious what the UI people think about the lack of scroll buttons
00:11.55laloyou need tabs?
00:12.55scanlinemerlin262: so far I have a property editor for picogui widgets, a class that wraps the normal picogui widget but can dump itself to XWT, and some miscellaneous UI components
00:15.49scanlinehttp://picogui.org/download/widgetfoundry_test4.png
00:16.45lalothat's it
00:16.47lalofuck
00:16.50laloI give up
00:16.57lalothis weekend I'm installing gentoo
00:17.52scanlinehmm.. won't copy the URL?
00:18.13lalowish it was that simple
00:18.17scanlinehehe
00:18.22scanlineterminal dead?
00:18.23laloit has a problem with i18n input
00:18.30scanlineahh
00:18.38lalowhich is a bit more grave than it sounds
00:18.59lalobecause, since I have a deadkeys setup, I cannot type ' or " at it anymore
00:19.19laloyou can imagine how happy my shell is
00:19.25scanlinehehe
00:19.28laloproblem is
00:19.55lalothe fix is in CVS, but to compile that here, I have to checkout the whole gnome shebang from cvs
00:20.14scanlineick
00:20.39lalovte from cvs needs xft from cvs...
00:20.46laloand zvt from cvs seems to be just plain borked
00:21.27laloI'm beginning to think if you are a developer and like bleeding-edge stuff, it's better to have the source to everything already on your HD, anyway.
00:21.53laloperhaps we need something even more radical than gentoo ;-)
00:22.06lalothat instead of downloading packages, gets all apps from cvs
00:22.14scanlinehehe, that'd be cool :)
00:22.30captain_protonit would be amazingly easy to break your system, depending on how various repositories are run
00:22.44scanlinecaptain_proton: of course, that's where the fun comes from
00:22.55laloyeah
00:25.39merlin262i hate papers
00:25.40merlin262:(
00:29.08*** join/#picogui gonkulator (~AthIRC@user-33qtv2h.dialup.mindspring.com)
00:37.23gonkulatorPicoBot: flood
00:37.26gonkulatorPicoBot: flood
00:37.32gonkulatorw00t
00:37.37gonkulatoronly 2 tries :)
00:37.39gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
00:37.43gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
00:37.45gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
00:37.54gonkulatorw00t
00:37.57gonkulatoronly 3 tries :)
00:38.06gonkulatorPicoBot: seen captain_proton
00:38.06PicoBotcaptain_proton was last seen on #picogui 15 minutes and 36 seconds ago, saying: it would be amazingly easy to break your system, depending on how various repositories are run [Fri Nov 15 00:25:23 2002]
00:38.15gonkulatorhmm...
00:38.30captain_protonhi gonk
00:38.36gonkulatorhey captain_proton
00:38.37captain_protonscanline: hamsterball looks to be a go :)
00:38.38gonkulatorwhats up?
00:38.45gonkulatorhamsterball?
00:38.47scanlinecaptain_proton: neat
00:39.20gonkulatorer
00:39.22gonkulator:E
00:40.02scanlinegonkulator: Imagine what a hamster ball would look like if you built it for a 6-foot-tall hamster who sit in a chair and liked to use high powered electric motors
00:40.46scanlinegonkulator: now imagine that it's going to contain a few people instead of a hamster, and that it's made out of transparent aluminum
00:40.58scanlinegonkulator: but then forget about the transparent aluminum since it hasn't been invented
00:41.04gonkulator>:)
00:41.06scanlineand that's about what captain_proton has in mind
00:41.07gonkulatorok
00:41.16gonkulatorcaptain_proton: your messed up :)
00:41.28captain_protongonkulator: indeed
00:41.31captain_protonPicoBot: emulate captain_proton
00:41.58gonkulatorPicoBot: emulate captain_proton is also walks face first into a stationary tree
00:41.58PicoBotokay, gonkulator.
00:42.07captain_protonhaha
00:43.04*** join/#picogui DevGirl (~mai@200-203-74-026-cslce7002.dsl.telebrasilia.net.br)
00:45.15gonkulatorhi DevGirl
00:46.21*** join/#picogui viking667 (viking@p254.nas2.chc.callplus.net.nz)
00:46.39viking667Morning, you lot.  I see things have been chugging along really well...
00:46.53scanlineviking667: yeah
00:48.08gonkulatorscanline: are you going to be awake when I come up?
00:48.16viking667It's been used for coffee once already tonight...
00:52.02viking667Well, must go - I only popped in to check you lot were still alive since Soapy Disk was released
00:52.20gonkulatorNO
00:52.24gonkulatornot soapy disk
00:52.31gonkulatorFoam disk
00:52.41gonkulatorBIG difference
00:54.02scanlinehehe
00:54.10scanlinegonkulator: you're coming?
00:54.20gonkulatorscanline: yea
00:54.25scanlineneat
00:54.36gonkulatorI told you that you weren't unbusy tomorrow night
00:54.49gonkulatorPicoBot: memory
00:54.49PicoBotmemory is cheap!
00:54.53scanlinehow long are you staying?
00:54.59gonkulatorthe night
00:55.47scanlineok
00:55.47gonkulatorI hafta be back by saturday afternoon though
00:55.47gonkulatorand then I am going to spend some time with Jen
00:55.48gonkulatorand then I am going to spend some time with scanline
00:55.52gonkulatorand then I am going to spend some time with captain_proton, scanline and Dan
00:56.01gonkulatorand then I am going to spend some time with myself
00:56.07scanlineyourself, eh?
00:56.11scanlinesleeping?
00:56.25captain_protonhmm
00:56.29captain_protongotta find a new movie
00:56.38gonkulatorcaptain_proton: I have one
00:56.45scanlinecaptain_proton: gonkulator and I still haven't watched the crawling eye :)
00:57.05gonkulatorI want to play pool with captain_proton and watch him "mish"
00:57.17captain_protoni'm not gonna mish!
00:57.51scanlineBah, haven't the British invented metric beer yet?
00:59.24scanlineah, VNV nation
00:59.31gonkulatorfigures :)
01:00.28scanlineheh.. yoshi doesn't feel so warm since the second CPU went down
01:01.06scanlineha
01:01.15viking667Okay - see y'all...
01:01.22gonkulatorlater viking667
01:01.46DevGirlahhhhh :)
01:02.13DevGirlcool :)
01:02.43scanlinehey! Now that I know some python, maybe I can rewrite my LED software in python >:)
01:03.16captain_protoninspector gadget was cool
01:03.21DevGirland "The Amazing Chan Cla,"
01:03.25DevGirlclan
01:03.28scanlineGo go gadget shared object linker!
01:03.33DevGirl:D
01:03.55DevGirland Pole Position!
01:03.57scanlines/set/see/
01:04.20captain_protonpole position :)
01:04.24captain_protonbeep beep beeeeeeeeeeeeep
01:04.33DevGirland... oh, I'm so ashamed of it... punky brewster
01:04.33scanlinePicoBot: emulate atari
01:04.48DevGirland... muppet babies
01:05.04scanlinePicoBot: emulate apoptygma berzerk is <action> sounds really cool and makes yoshi light up brightly
01:05.04PicoBotOK, scanline.
01:05.11DevGirl:)
01:05.26DevGirlcaptain_proton: I really loved pole position
01:05.38gonkulatornight everyone
01:05.47DevGirlused to wait and see all the tv show to see pole position
01:05.49captain_protoni wasted many an hour on pole position
01:05.50scanlinegonkulator: no, don't sleep yet!
01:05.52DevGirlbye, gonkey
01:05.53scanlinegonkulator: bah....
01:06.06captain_protonoh and that one game sorta like missile command but cooler that i can never remember the name
01:06.18gonkulatorscanline: what?
01:06.27DevGirlheh! Inspector Gadget Theme
01:06.32gonkulatoroh
01:06.38scanlinegonkulator: if you go to sleep now, you'll fall asleep tomorrow night :P
01:06.39gonkulatorI'll be able to stay up late... don't worry
01:06.48scanlineuh huh mmmkay...
01:06.53gonkulatortrust me
01:07.06gonkulatorI get nap in route to boulder
01:07.18DevGirl:)
01:07.41DevGirlheh
01:08.54scanline:)
01:08.56scanlineg'night gonkulator
01:13.25DevGirlscanline: "The Amazing Chan Clan" was an OLD cartoon that ppl here liked ro rerun :)
01:13.50DevGirlimagine scooby doo, but with a family and a non talking dog
01:13.55scanlinehaha
01:14.14DevGirlIt was Chan and his 8 or 9 kids
01:14.47DevGirland they split in the same groups EVERY TIME they got a mistery to silve
01:14.50DevGirlsolve
01:15.13DevGirlthe coolest group were the 3 little kids and the dog
01:15.24scanline:)
01:16.01DevGirlat the end of cartoon, everybody did their guesses but chan always could explain the whole thing :)
01:16.18DevGirland they had a cool "transformer" car
01:16.19DevGirl:)
01:16.28DevGirlit was funny :)
01:17.30scanlinehehe
01:20.48DevGirl*sigh*
01:23.13scanlineerr.. "from Guido import TimeMachine" :)
01:29.05DevGirl:D
04:41.48*** join/#picogui file (router@mctn1-0202.nb.aliant.net)
05:44.25scanlineyay, tab widget
05:50.07hikke?
05:50.33scanlineI have a tab widget for picogui working
05:50.56hikkeBut what's a tab widget :)
05:51.18scanlineGives you a bunch of 'pages' you can flip through by clicking tabs along one edge
05:51.28hikkeAh, ok
05:51.55scanlineI haven't added extra objects to any of the themes to support it, so it still doesn't look like tabs, but it works
05:52.12scanlineit has some neat widget attachment magic that makes it really easy to use :)
05:58.56scanline<tabpage text="Doodads">
05:58.56scanline<label font=":30" side="all"> Page 1 </label>
05:58.56scanline</tabpage>
05:58.56scanline<tabpage text="Widgets" font=":0:bold">
05:58.56scanline<label font=":30" side="all"> Page 2 </label>
05:58.57scanline</tabpage>
05:59.03scanlinemmmm
06:00.49hikkeHmm? XML widget templates?
06:00.53scanlineyep
07:31.38merlin262Good Morning
07:33.16*** join/#picogui carpman{sasami} (~carpman@dyna039143.utdallas.edu)
07:33.31carpman{sasami}morning all
07:33.38carpman{sasami}PicoBot: seen scanline
07:33.38PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 18 minutes and 58 seconds ago, saying: is away: ZzZzZzzz.... [Fri Nov 15 06:17:35 2002]
07:33.44carpman{sasami}hehe
07:34.51carpman{sasami}PicoBot: seen merlin262
07:34.51PicoBotmerlin262 was last seen on #picogui 3 minutes and 13 seconds ago, saying: Good Morning [Fri Nov 15 07:34:33 2002]
07:35.01carpman{sasami}hey merlin262
07:35.33carpman{sasami}merlin262: did you cow to KeyserSoze, or is the name still Amarach?
07:39.38carpman{sasami}PicoBot: d20
07:43.36carpman{sasami}morning Xentac
07:43.46Xentacmorning
07:45.59merlin262I'm late
07:46.33carpman{sasami}hehe
07:51.05*** join/#picogui prpplague (~JoeBob1@12.148.134.9)
07:56.42*** join/#picogui gonkulator (~AthIRC@user-33qtv2h.dialup.mindspring.com)
07:56.52gonkulatorPicoBot: seen scanline
07:56.53PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 42 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: is away: ZzZzZzzz.... [Fri Nov 15 06:17:35 2002]
07:57.19gonkulatorPicoBot: seen carpman{sasami}
07:57.19PicoBotcarpman{sasami} was last seen on #picogui 10 minutes and 48 seconds ago, saying: hehe [Fri Nov 15 07:49:26 2002]
08:00.03kergothmorning
08:00.56carpman{sasami}morning kergoth
08:03.42gonkulatorhi kergoth
08:28.48Xentacbah... it's another despair filled morning...
08:29.56gonkulatorXentac: whats up?
08:30.06Xentacnot much... just feeling... empty
09:17.49*** join/#picogui darth_balls (~Lain@resnet112.fortlewis.edu)
10:15.04hikkeHeyy
10:15.26hikkeIs there any documentation about the "new" textbox widget?
10:21.42*** join/#picogui ahnkana (~Ahnkana@aden2-135-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)
10:22.54ahnkanascanline: can i come and get my quarter jar from you? i know michael is asleep, i won't bug him, but i have a need for caffine, and that requires money as i have no caffine of my own
10:23.12ahnkanaDURG!!!
10:26.37ahnkananobody is home? where did everybody go?
10:29.12hikkehi ahnkana :)
10:29.44ahnkanayea for people across the ocean!
10:33.10prpplaguePicoBot: picogui quotes
10:33.11PicoBotprpplague: excuse me?
10:33.16prpplaguePicoBot: quotes
10:33.17PicoBotquotes are at http://picogui.org/wiki/view/Main/Quotes
10:37.43ahnkanaquotes are funny
10:37.49ahnkanascanline is funnt!
10:38.28captain_protongrumblegrumble
10:38.33ahnkanahehe
10:38.41captain_protonhow come no one feels the need to distribute divxes of the thin blue line?
10:38.52ahnkanathe thin blue line?
10:39.23captain_protonoldish british comedy with rowan atkinson
10:39.33ahnkana01,9915 15tag more fun15,990101,9915 15tag more fun15,9901
10:39.34ahnkana01,9915 15tag more fun15,990101,9915 15tag more fun15,990101,9915 15tag more fun15,9901
10:39.37ahnkana01,9915 15tag more fun15,990101,9915 15tag more fun15,990101,9915 15tag more fun15,990101,9915 15tag more fun15,990101,9915 15tag more fun15,990101,9915 15tag more fun15,9901
10:39.40kergotheek
10:39.41kergothcolor bad
10:39.42kergoth!
10:39.45ahnkanalol
10:39.53ahnkanaAHH
10:40.02ahnkanahates
10:40.52ahnkanaPicoBot: insult kergoth
10:40.53PicoBotkergoth is nothing but an infected accumulation of plume-plucked craptacular carpet droppings.
10:41.21kergothnot just a normal accumulation of plume-plucked craptacular carpet droppings either.
10:41.24kergothan *infected* one
10:41.26kergoth:)
10:41.32ahnkanaexactly
10:42.11ahnkanapicobot: kergoth?
10:42.11PicoBotPAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN! or not good or nothing but an infected accumulation of plume-plucked craptacular carpet droppings.
10:42.27kergothhah
10:42.47ahnkanaahnkana is funny
10:43.07kergothPicoBot: ahnkana
10:43.07PicoBota Vampire! Hisssss! She's the oddball who sits quietly at parties.  She rarely speaks, but when she does, its usually so crazy that she probably shouldn't have said it at all.  She's a cool vampire.
10:43.20kergothPicoBot: ahnkana is also a fan of grits
10:43.20PicoBotokay, kergoth.
10:45.07captain_protonhmm
10:45.11captain_proton"the brain that wouldn't die"
10:45.24captain_protonAlive... without a body... fed by an unspeakable horror from hell!
10:45.53ahnkanamuayh haha
10:45.59ahnkanaPicoBot: ahnkana
10:45.59PicoBotrumour has it ahnkana is not a fan of grits
10:46.04ahnkanaso there
10:46.14*** join/#picogui Sophie (~Sophie@ginapc.dnx.net)
10:46.32kergothPicoBot: ahnkana
10:46.32PicoBothmmm... ahnkana is a huge fan of grits. buy her some.
10:46.32*** join/#picogui djHD (~robot@pD95320C6.dip.t-dialin.net)
10:46.53djHDhi guys
10:47.51ahnkanaPicoBot: ahnkana
10:47.51PicoBoti think ahnkana is not a fan of grits and she hates kergoth (just kidding)
10:48.48kergothbah
10:48.49kergoth:)
10:49.19ahnkanabye captain_proton
10:50.05ahnkanahi djHD
10:51.07ahnkanatry sweetFTP
10:51.15ahnkanai don't have a copy, but you cna download it
10:51.55ahnkanaPicoBot: anonyman[emujr]?
10:51.55PicoBotahnkana: bugger all, i dunno
10:52.40ahnkanaPicoBot: anonyman[emujr] is frequently here but rarely talks....kind of like hikke used to be until he got sick of us making fun of him
10:52.40PicoBotOK, ahnkana.
11:02.48*** join/#picogui gonkulator (~AthIRC@12-252-153-173.client.attbi.com)
11:02.54gonkulatorhi ahnkana
11:22.47darth_ballshey gonkulator
11:26.23*** join/#picogui danols (~danols@dsl-205-210-52-129.kingston.net)
11:26.26danolshey all
11:26.49danolsdo you guys encounter problems aswell when compiling in the x11 video driver stupport /
11:26.51danols?
11:27.35gonkulatorhi darth_balls
11:28.52darth_ballstoday is Jon's birthday!
11:28.54darth_ballsyay!
11:29.03darth_ballsand we're going to see Harry Potter tonight! double yay!
11:29.08darth_ballsyay^2 even
11:29.28danolsi can't seem to get the x11 driver to compile with picogui ?
11:30.33danolsplus i got a shadow mouse on the screen ?
11:31.12gonkulatorPicoBot: seen scanline
11:31.12PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 5 hours, 16 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: is away: ZzZzZzzz.... [Fri Nov 15 06:17:35 2002]
11:31.23gonkulatorhehehe, he is going to miss his classes tonight
11:31.51danolsanyone even care i'm saying stuff ? :)
11:35.34darth_ballsdanols: I care, but I can't be of any help to you
11:35.41danolshmmm
11:35.49danolsanyone running pico now ?
11:39.20danolsif someon can help me get x11 driver working i would like that pls
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12:00.38ahnkanadratsab: good name
12:01.23ahnkanadamnit
12:01.29dratsabyes, i'm a backwards bastard damnit
12:01.30dratsab!
12:01.31dratsabheh
12:03.07ahnkanadastart
12:03.13ahnkanawhat's that/
12:07.53ahnkanai want michael to wake up
12:07.59ahnkanaand scanline
12:08.01ahnkanawake up
12:08.03ahnkanawake u
12:08.08ahnkanawake up
12:08.23ahnkanafine i'll take a nap
12:08.54ahnkanaoh i get it
12:09.02ahnkanakergoth`zzz is a bastard
12:09.06ahnkanabackwards
12:09.10ahnkanaletters too
12:09.14ahnkanahahahhahaha
12:09.51dratsablol
12:09.58ahnkanahey shut up
12:10.06ahnkanadratsab?
12:10.09ahnkanalol
12:10.20ahnkanaPicoBot: dratsab?
12:10.21PicoBotahnkana: no idea
12:10.28*** join/#picogui danols (~danols@dsl-205-210-52-129.kingston.net)
12:10.30dratsabPicoBot: dratsab is a backwards bastard. and kergoth.
12:10.30PicoBotOK, dratsab.
12:10.57ahnkanadratsab is also a weird who thinks he's cool because he can spell backwards
12:11.16ahnkanapicobot: dratsab is also a weird who thinks he's cool because he can spell backwards
12:11.17PicoBoti haven't a clue, ahnkana
12:11.20ahnkanabooo
12:11.24dratsabahnkana: 'a weird'?
12:11.27dratsabis that like
12:11.29dratsaba blue?
12:11.31dratsabor
12:11.33dratsaba large?
12:11.34ahnkanashut uip
12:11.37dratsab:)
12:11.39ahnkanawhy didn't it work?
12:11.42ahnkanagrr
12:12.08ahnkanakergoth: got bored of that did ya?
12:12.35kergothwas bored as soon as i did it
12:12.35ahnkanaok, nap time or wake michael up time
12:12.37kergothbut whta the hell
12:12.40ahnkanaloo
12:12.43ahnkanalol
12:12.47kergothloo!
12:12.54ahnkanawhta!
12:13.17ahnkanaPicoBot: kergoth is also unable to spell
12:13.17PicoBotokay, ahnkana.
12:13.22ahnkanakergoth?
12:13.27ahnkanaPicoBot: kergoth?
12:13.27PicoBotPAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN! or not good or nothing but an infected accumulation of plume-plucked craptacular carpet droppings. or unable to spell
12:13.34ahnkanalol
12:13.36ahnkanamuah haha
12:13.38ahnkanaok
12:13.45ahnkanadurg
12:13.55ahnkanai don't want to go to calc
12:13.57ahnkanai really don't
12:13.59kergothPicoBot: no, kergoth is <reply> kergoth has stepped away for a moment, please leave a message at the beep. *beep*
12:14.00PicoBot...but kergoth is <reply> PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN! or not good or nothing but an infected accumulation of plume-plucked craptacular carpet droppings. or unable to spell...
12:14.11kergothPicoBot: forget kergoth
12:14.12PicoBotkergoth: I forgot kergoth
12:14.13kergothPicoBot: no, kergoth is <reply> kergoth has stepped away for a moment, please leave a message at the beep. *beep*
12:14.13PicoBotOK, kergoth.
12:14.22ahnkanapicobot: k
12:14.22PicoBotahnkana: i'm not following you...
12:14.27ahnkanaPicoBot: kergoth?
12:14.27PicoBotkergoth has stepped away for a moment, please leave a message at the beep. *beep*
12:14.34ahnkanamessage
12:16.27*** join/#picogui darth_lab (~vircuser@129.19.132.250)
12:16.31darth_labnm
12:17.42danolsok from what I understand pico dosen't support overlaping windows ?
12:18.04ahnkanadanols: this is technically a professional channel
12:18.13ahnkanabut we usually aren't very professional
12:18.16danolsahnkana: ok
12:18.25ahnkanaand the guy who knows the most is sleeping
12:18.42ahnkanabut you can leave him a message with the "/msg" funciton
12:18.46danolswell doesn't that limit picogui to embeded devices really not good for a desktop computer
12:18.47ahnkana*function
12:18.48danolsohhh
12:19.03ahnkanascanline: WAKE UP
12:19.11danolsso what are you guys doing here ?
12:19.12ahnkanascanline: there is a serious person here,
12:19.16ahnkanawe are always here
12:19.22ahnkanaright now it's only me
12:19.27hikkedanols: afaik. scanline has got some sort of overlapping windows working, look at picogui.org -> screenshots
12:19.40ahnkanaeveryone else is busy, and hikke should be sleeping
12:19.48danolsyeah it's on X11 using fluxbox
12:19.55danolsthat's not fun
12:20.04danolsyou still need X11 , it dosen't replace it
12:20.07hikkeahnkana: It's 9:20pm :P
12:20.11ahnkanaoh
12:20.19hikkedanols: ah ok, I don't know so well these..
12:20.27ahnkanahikke: well i don't know what time it is in finland
12:20.33danolsbummer
12:20.46ahnkanahikke: i ususally don't know what time it is here
12:20.49danolsso what are you peeps doing here ?
12:20.52danolshelping him out ?
12:20.54danolschilling ?
12:20.56ahnkanadanols: IM scanline on a private
12:21.07ahnkanahe'll IM you back when he wakes up
12:21.37ahnkanawe all know scanline from here or there, or we came in with interest in picogui and stayed for the conversation
12:21.48ahnkanayou are welcome to stay, new people are fun
12:22.16ahnkanaPicoBot: hikke?
12:22.16PicoBothikke is a odd person who likes deleting himself, like Ahnkana said
12:22.24ahnkanalol
12:22.30hikke:P
12:23.10ahnkanaPicoBot: danols is a random person who is actually here to talk about PicoGUI, who knew that was possible!!! lol
12:23.11PicoBoti haven't a clue, ahnkana
12:23.14ahnkanadamn
12:23.41ahnkanascanline: wake up...i want my quarters back
12:23.55danolsahnkana: lol yeah , got tired of bloat ware X
12:24.30ahnkanadanols: i must admit to being resident idiot, most everyone else is fairly fluent in computers, i am still learning, what is that?
12:24.36danolsso none of you use it or help develop it ?
12:24.39ahnkanamost do
12:24.45ahnkanathey just are here for fun
12:24.45danolshaha ahnkana ok
12:24.49ahnkanai don't
12:24.52danolsneat
12:25.05ahnkanawhat is bloat ware x?
12:25.17danolswell are there anyother alternatives ?
12:25.25ahnkanai think so
12:25.26danolsto X system ?
12:25.28ahnkanahold up
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12:25.37ahnkanai don't know what an x system is
12:25.41ahnkanacarpman{tallest}!!!!
12:25.42ahnkanahelp!!!
12:25.44carpman{tallest}hey ahnkana
12:25.50carpman{tallest}whats up?
12:26.05ahnkanathis guy, danols, has serious ?'s
12:26.08danolsahnkana: i mean picgui i think has it right, this way programs feel and look will look consitent, unlike current X, where you have to re-learn most gui , it looks ugly
12:26.19ahnkanadanols: ask carpman{tallest}
12:26.31carpman{tallest}danols: hehehe, your discusing GUI arch. with the wrong person :)
12:26.35ahnkanahe is a computer smart person
12:27.01ahnkanadanols: seriously, scanline is the person to ask, this is his channel, he is the computer god
12:27.08danolshey carpman{tallest} does picgui have/willhave native overlaping without the need for X ? it talks something about div nodes ?
12:27.11ahnkanaso is gonkulator
12:27.23ahnkanaor Xentac
12:27.24danolsmy two cents :) i'll be back later than
12:27.34carpman{tallest}danols: hmm... I don't know of any plans for it currently, but it could be implimented.
12:27.39ahnkanadid you leave scanline a message
12:28.32ahnkanaor if you leave us your email we'll have him contact you, he likes serious people
12:28.42ahnkana:-)
12:28.51danolsnahh, ahnkana i'll be arround
12:28.55ahnkanasweet
12:29.17ahnkanaok, nap time
12:29.39danolsto spread the word while i get something to eat, check out freenet and iip projects , my 2 cents simply
12:48.59carpman{tallest}PicoBot: seen file
12:48.59PicoBotfile was last seen on #picogui 18 hours, 10 minutes and 51 seconds ago, saying: mmm [Thu Nov 14 18:41:04 2002]
12:49.09carpman{tallest}PicoBot: d20
12:49.17carpman{tallest}PicoBot: BAH!
12:49.17PicoBotCrotch!
12:49.55carpman{tallest}hey darth_balls
12:50.45darth_ballshi carpman{tallest}
13:08.02danols*yawn*
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13:28.06scanlinePicoBot: seen merlin262?
13:28.06PicoBotmerlin262 was last seen on #picogui 5 hours, 42 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying: leaves [Fri Nov 15 07:48:56 2002]
13:28.16scanlinemwa ha ha ha... I wrote the perfect tab widget last night
13:30.11*** topic/#picogui by scanline -> PicoGUI, the niftiest thing since sliced cheese. || http://picogui.org/ || and check out the prototype new website at http://picogui.org/qui/, mail your opinion to lalo || No flooding! || Tab widget: http://picogui.org/download/tabtest.png
13:30.47scanlinewhoops
13:31.26fileneat
13:31.47scanlineStill haven't added support for it to any themes, so it doesn't look like a tab widget, but it works
13:42.10filecaptain_proton: wb
13:43.28captain_protonhmm scanline how does this sound: After a car crash, a man keeps his wife's head alive in his laboratory. As if this weren't enough, an evil beast pounds and screams from a locked room adjacent to the lab.
13:44.24fileO.o
13:49.59scanlinecaptain_proton: hehe
13:50.06scanlinecaptain_proton: sounds like perfect material
13:50.10scanlinebrb
13:50.29kergothAHHHH
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13:56.45scan[ibook]hehe... merlin262's going to kill me again
14:00.24filelalala
14:02.01scan[ibook]lalala.. prof is handing midterms back... slowly
14:06.36scan[ibook]hmm.. 86%, not bad for forgetting to study and having to look up most of everything in class. Thank goodness it was an open book test :)
14:21.38Sophienow we need a control to observe.
14:21.53Sophiea nonpoked scan[ibook]
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14:35.43gonkulatorPicoBot: seen scanline
14:35.43PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 45 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: brb [Fri Nov 15 13:53:07 2002]
14:35.50gonkulatorscanline: I am at Rob's place
14:36.01gonkulatorI'll be up at CU pretty soon
14:36.41scan[ibook]mmmkay
14:37.11Sophiehey gonkey
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14:50.54darth_ballsplaying guitar is fun
14:51.07darth_ballshi file and carpman{sasami}
14:53.49filehey
14:54.00filebrb
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14:56.58carpman{sasami}Doo dee doo dee doo dee doo dee doo dee doo dee doo
14:57.17scan[ibook]hi
14:57.22carpman{sasami}hey scan[ibook]
14:57.48scan[ibook]maybe I'll do tabs for fluidity next
14:58.14carpman{sasami}scan[ibook]: w00t!
14:58.26scan[ibook]this new tab widget is amazingly easy to use :)
14:58.44carpman{sasami}widget templates make life fun :)
14:58.53scan[ibook]you create a tabpage in any container, then add more pages after that.. set properties on the tab page.. it just works
14:58.58scan[ibook]:)
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14:59.41darth_ballswb file
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14:59.45darth_ballswb gonkulator
14:59.53gonkulatorhi darth_balls
14:59.55darth_ballswb lottabs2 ^_^
14:59.58gonkulatordarth_balls: I am chillin in boulder :)
15:00.07darth_ballsmmmmmmmm.... chili
15:00.17carpman{sasami}hey gonkulator
15:00.20gonkulatorhi file
15:00.22scan[ibook]http://picogui.org/download/aqua_tabs.png
15:00.23gonkulatorhi carpman{sasami}
15:00.26scan[ibook]hi gonkulator
15:00.31gonkulatorhi scan[ibook]
15:00.46darth_ballsack, so many 'hi's
15:00.57filehehe
15:01.03carpman{sasami}scan[ibook]: SWEET!
15:01.03gonkulatorscan[ibook]: I am sitting outside your room
15:01.03scan[ibook]gonkulator: where in boulder are you at?
15:01.07scan[ibook]haha
15:01.10gonkulatorlol
15:01.16scan[ibook]carpman{sasami}: hehe
15:01.18gonkulatorI figured
15:01.34darth_ballsgood thing gonkulator has wireless
15:01.53gonkulatorscanline: I remembered the password on the first try this time
15:02.11scan[ibook]wow
15:02.13fileI tried putting a soundcard in chimera... resource conflict though
15:02.17gonkulator0003263827!
15:02.23darth_ballsspeaking of class...
15:02.29gonkulatorfile: that blows ass... I don't care
15:03.11scan[ibook]carpman{sasami}: since the tabs are just rethemed button widgets, all the bitmap and font capability works in tabs too :)
15:03.38carpman{sasami}scan[ibook]: awesome
15:03.54scan[ibook]only about 300 lines of code too :)
15:04.45filescan[ibook]: wah - he's there too?
15:05.04gonkulatorscan[ibook]: how are you making merlin262 mad?
15:05.18scan[ibook]gonkulator: by implementing things he wants to write before he can get around to it
15:05.22fileoh
15:06.07filegonkulator: I lost all my MP3s, so it'll have to do for now
15:06.16scan[ibook]gonkulator: there are some really good stations.. like di.fm
15:06.26gonkulatorscan[ibook]: true
15:06.38gonkulatorscan[ibook]: I play MostlyClassical.com all the time myself...
15:06.48scan[ibook]hehe
15:07.06fileI gotta admit this song isn't that bad...
15:07.21filereminds me of hunting for bugs in source code
15:07.49gonkulatorfile: do you hunt with a shot gun?
15:08.01filegonkulator: no... but there's a gun in the room beside mine
15:08.08filewant me to point it at my monitor and fire?
15:08.35gonkulatorfile: don't use it at all
15:08.37gonkulatoron anything
15:08.45fileok
15:09.31carpman{sasami}PicoBot: attract file
15:09.31PicoBotfile: baaaaaa or WaveLan linux drivers
15:09.38filewhat's WaveLan?
15:10.12gonkulatorscanline: Michael let me into your room
15:10.21scan[ibook]bastard
15:10.23scan[ibook]hehe
15:11.01scan[ibook]good plan
15:12.34gonkulatorscan[ibook]: how much longer is your class?
15:12.36gonkulatorand where is it
15:12.54scan[ibook]it goes until 3:50, and I'm not telling you where it is
15:13.07gonkulatorand run away laughing
15:13.44gonkulatorSHIT
15:13.56scan[ibook]hehe
15:14.20carpman{sasami}lol
15:14.48scan[ibook]grr
15:15.22gonkulatorcrap... empty file
15:16.02scan[ibook]yay
15:16.03gonkulatoranyway
15:16.09gonkulatorscanline: I am going to target with Jen
15:16.16scan[ibook]have fun
15:16.24gonkulatorscanline: be back in about an hour or so
15:19.39*** topic/#picogui by scan[ibook] -> PicoGUI, the niftiest thing since sliced cheese. || http://picogui.org/ || and check out the prototype new website at http://picogui.org/qui/, mail your opinion to lalo || No flooding! || Tab widget: http://picogui.org/download/tabtest.png and http://picogui.org/download/aqua_tabs.png
15:22.07SophieI like block cheese.
15:22.27scan[ibook]it's a metaphor
15:22.44scan[ibook]for block cheese
15:22.49SophieI'm just saying: to me, sliced cheese ain't so hot.
15:22.55Sophieoh, gotcha
15:23.01scan[ibook]:)
15:23.16scan[ibook]the slices may be arbitrarily thick
15:23.27Sophieno, they must be slices
15:23.34scan[ibook]therefore sliced cheese is simply a generalized form of block cheese
15:23.51Sophieis not a slice by definition, fairly thin?
15:23.58scan[ibook]nope
15:24.21scan[ibook]think about array slices.. nothing says that they have to be small compared to the whole array
15:24.50Sophiehttp://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=slice
15:24.59scan[ibook]if you take a 1x1x8 piece of cheese and slice it into 8 1x1x1 pieces, the pieces are slices but they're also cubes
15:25.07Sophiesee, it has sliced cheese right in the def
15:25.43scan[ibook]That's the english major's definition, not the mathematician or computer scientist's definition
15:25.53kergothindeed, besides, 'thin' is relative
15:26.19Sophienot that relative. slice != block.
15:26.45filenobody ever goes in my room and she wants me to keep it clean 24/7
15:26.57filewhere am I supposed to put two desktop computers and parts...
15:27.06Sophiefor your own damn safety, file.
15:27.19scan[ibook]Sophie: let's say you take a 4-foot-cube piece of cheese, slice it into 8 pieces 0.5x4x4 feet
15:27.29scan[ibook]those 0.5x4x4 foot pieces would count as slices, correct?
15:27.53kergoththey would count as slices by any definition of slice, mathematical or english
15:27.57scan[ibook]now slice one of those 8 times into a 0.5x0.5x4 piece slice
15:28.07scan[ibook]then slice that 8 times into 0.5x0.5x0.5 slices
15:28.11scan[ibook]but wait, now that's also a block!
15:28.41Sophiewell, it ceases to be a slice once you slice it into a block.
15:29.00scan[ibook]but that would imply that we weren't actually slicing the cheese, we were blocking it
15:29.23scan[ibook]and by definition I was slicing the cheese
15:29.26scan[ibook]:)
15:29.28Sophienot necessarily.
15:29.39kergotheh? according to your definition he was slicing
15:29.53scan[ibook]captain_proton: you sure picked a weird place to join a conversation :)
15:30.04Sophiewait a sec, let me be precise in my response
15:30.10captain_protonhmm i have cheese
15:30.14captain_protonhowever, i lack crackers
15:30.29kergothhehe
15:30.47Sophieah, you'll note that the second set of def's on the link I posted
15:30.55Sophiethe verb.
15:31.09Sophieslicing also means "to cut from a larger peice"
15:31.16filepiece
15:31.18kergothyes
15:31.20Sophieright
15:31.33scan[ibook]Doesn't that also imply that a slice is a piece cut from a larger piece, regardless of its relative dimensions?
15:31.34Sophieso that doesn't mean your making slices, just cutting
15:31.34kergothand cutting a 4 foot block into 8 0.5x4x4 pieces is cutting from a large piece
15:31.47kergothby your definition cutting from a larger piece is slicing
15:31.59Sophieno. that's why they differtiate the first and the second verb defs
15:32.21Sophiethe first is "cutting slices" the second is "cutting from a larger piece"
15:32.44Sophieyour use of "slice" constitutes the second
15:32.54captain_protonoooOOOOooo
15:33.01captain_protonthey're making the douglas adams dr who episode
15:33.02kergothor the 4th, depending on context
15:33.19captain_protonerr, showing it anyways
15:33.20Sophieyes, depending.
15:33.21scan[ibook]the first definition would fit too
15:33.28Sophienope.
15:33.39Sophiebecause it's not "thin" it's not a slice.
15:33.52kergothdefine thin
15:34.28scan[ibook]use definition #2 of slice
15:34.50Sophiethin it's depth is significantly smaller than it's length and height
15:35.04scan[ibook]heh, define depth
15:35.26Sophieuh, why? it's irrelevant.
15:35.26kergothdepth could constitute any of the 3 dimensions, she's saying a cube by definition isnt thin
15:35.31kergothwhich is perfectly valid
15:35.41kergoththough i still think #2 of slice applies
15:36.01SophieI don't think so; standard usage of slice when referring to food is #1
15:36.20scan[ibook]that's an assumption
15:36.30Sophieno, it's common knowledge
15:36.39kergothSophie: that doesnt make the second usage less valid
15:37.04Sophiesure it does.
15:37.14kergothSophie: though it does make people apt to misunderstand the statement
15:37.26kergothit interferes with communication, doesnt reduce validity
15:37.56*** topic/#picogui by scan[ibook] -> PicoGUI, the niftiest thing since subdivided cheese. || http://picogui.org/ || and check out the prototype new website at http://picogui.org/qui/, mail your opinion to lalo || No flooding! || Tab widget: http://picogui.org/download/tabtest.png and http://picogui.org/download/aqua_tabs.png
15:38.02kergothlol
15:38.08SophieIf you say "would you like this cube shaped slice of cheese" to most normal people, they will have difficulties comprehending
15:38.23kergoththats my point, it interferes with communication
15:38.35kergothit doesnt make his use of a cube as a slice less valid, by definition
15:38.39kergothjust more apt to cause misunderstanding
15:40.18SophieI think it's inappropriate usage.
15:41.26Sophieand I would have to come up with a good argument by analogy to go further, and it's Friday and I'm lazy.
15:41.44Sophieso we'll just agree to disagree :)
15:41.52kergothagreed :)
15:41.53scan[ibook]mmm, friday
15:41.56kergothfriday rocks
15:42.07captain_protonfriday = time to partay
15:42.12*** topic/#picogui by scan[ibook] -> PicoGUI, the niftiest thing since arbitrarily subdivided cheese. Happy Friday! || http://picogui.org/ || and check out the prototype new website at http://picogui.org/qui/, mail your opinion to lalo || No flooding! || Tab widget: http://picogui.org/download/tabtest.png and http://picogui.org/download/aqua_tabs.png
15:43.07Sophieahh, a pragmatic solution
15:43.39captain_protoni've seen cheese with the same volume as a 4x4x4 cube
15:43.52scan[ibook]if it wasn't a cube I'm not interested
15:44.02Sophielol
15:44.29scan[ibook]ah.. class almost over
15:45.36Sophieah.. work almost over
15:48.18scan[ibook]PicoBot: class?
15:48.18PicoBotbut I didn't GO to class...
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15:49.45SophieI need a good ftp server for Linux.
15:50.23kergothI need a new job
15:50.54captain_protonhe is not of the earth. he is of the sky. he flaps his wings like a zealot bird. he goes to the sky. he goes to the sky. on the whim. on the whim.
15:51.42Sophiezealot bird?
15:51.51captain_proton*shrug*
15:52.53scanlineahh...
15:52.54Sophiethat was fast.
15:53.13captain_protonthat was the end of a spoken narrative in the opera i'm listening to
15:53.25scanlinegrr, sourceforge still down
15:53.27captain_protonyou'd have to ask philly glass what it means
15:54.17kergothhah
15:54.20kergothscary bird
15:54.21Sophiethey were dog-thinks.
15:54.29Sophies/thinks/things
15:55.33Sophieoops, I guess I overextended that topic boundary.
15:55.47Sophie*stack overflow*
15:58.38filehe said <anonyman[emujr]> do your worst
15:58.40fileand I did
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16:01.06Sophiework is actually pretty fucking nice when I'm not doing it/
16:06.51kergothhah, true that
16:10.16Sophiekergoth: do you have an ftp server?
16:12.18kergothon my box at home, yes. theres nothing on it of course :)
16:14.43Sophiegot an ip/lp on ya?
16:15.47Sophieoh, it's probably not up and running.
16:16.29kergothhyperion.digitalnemesis.net, theres no account other than anonymous :)
16:19.57Sophiemm fast.
16:21.51darth_ballsI want rayman for my computer
16:24.02filekergoth: hyperion? how did you think up that name?
16:25.22kergothfile: the book series. Hyperion, Endymion, Fall of Hyperion, Rise of Endymion
16:26.30fileic
16:26.36fileTux889 chose that for one of his boxes
16:27.41scanlinehttp://picogui.org/wiki/view/Main/NewRenderingEngine
16:27.44kergothw00t
16:27.48kergothpoker night tonight
16:27.50kergothheheh
16:28.08kergothnice
16:28.25kergothmy best friend's fiance is out of town, we'll have to hit the strip clubs next week
16:28.35scanlinehehe
16:28.56kergothim not a big fan of em myself, but we gotta do it for his sake
16:29.03kergothpoor guy's whipped
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16:29.36Sophie't been to the strip club in awhile
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16:30.37kergothmy friends are all getting responsibilities
16:30.39kergothhouses, wives
16:30.44kergothhard to get time to go out
16:32.14SophieI don't have friends. And it's considered weird to be a female alone at the strip club.
16:32.29Sophielast time I went they gave me an application :/
16:33.05Sophiewhich was strange.
16:33.09filearg
16:33.13fileI have to download 32 BigSlack files
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16:33.21fileahhh screw this - it'll take too long
16:33.22kergothSophie: aha
16:33.28kergothSophie: did you feel complimented?
16:33.49carpman{sasami}ahh, back
16:33.50SophieI felt conspicuous.
16:33.55carpman{sasami}for a minute anyway
16:34.00kergothSophie: hah
16:34.08fileZipslack? yes please
16:34.38kergothSophie: i take it thats viewed as a bad thing :)
16:35.29SophieI don't have moral issues with stripping. I just like to be anonymous.
16:35.38kergothgotcha.
16:36.51kergothi need to meet a woman who isnt so fucking insecure. every woman i've dated has -hated- the thought of me going to a strip club
16:37.38fileI should borrow Tux's Mandrake CDs...
16:38.52SophieKeyser's been to the strip club twice. Once because I took him there (curious), once on his own
16:39.45captain_protonhahahaha
16:39.56kergothcaptain_proton: ?
16:39.56captain_proton"the brain that wouldn't die" got a whopping 3.1 out of 19
16:39.58captain_protonerr
16:39.59captain_proton10*
16:40.41scanlinewhat the hell...
16:40.54Sophieright. time to go home.
16:40.57scanlineMy terminal just started spontaneously spewing ;2c1 repeated over and over
16:41.09kergothscanline: fun
16:41.51scanlinehmm no, vim is beeping
16:42.01kergothbeep.
16:42.15kergothman, i need to get out of here
16:43.33fileok so what do I need for a compiler environment?
16:43.40kergothhow about..
16:43.41kergotha compiler!
16:43.44fileI've got gcc, glibc, and the linux include files
16:44.07filemake!
16:44.08fileI need make!
16:44.18kergothautoconf, automake, libtool
16:44.23kergothglibc-devel, depending on distro
16:44.30filenah I've just got glibc.tgz
16:44.32filethis is Slackware
16:44.44kergothah
16:44.50kergothman
16:44.55kergothi havent used slackware since 95
16:45.08fileI can't find a normal make
16:45.12filethere's gmake, and there's pmake
16:45.14filebut not make
16:45.24kergothyou dont want pmake, thats for damn sure
16:45.27kergothi dunno what gmke is
16:45.33filegonkulator: wb
16:45.38gonkulatorfile: spank
16:45.41gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
16:45.42scanlinegmake == gnu make?
16:45.54kergothscanline: thats what i was wonering
16:45.55kergothheh
16:46.33scanlinefoood.....
16:51.39fileI need the driver for my NIC... almost forgot
16:52.09gonkulatorfile: spank
16:52.50gonkulatorPicoBot: d20
16:53.50gonkulatorfile: spank
16:53.50gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
16:53.51gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
16:53.51gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
16:53.52gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
16:53.52gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
16:53.52gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
16:53.53gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
16:53.53kergothBORED
16:53.53gonkulatorPicoBot: spank
16:53.54gonkulatorkergoth: yep
16:53.54gonkulatorkergoth: me too :)
16:54.53gonkulatorkergoth: that blows
16:55.23gonkulatordinner time
17:14.31*** join/#picogui carpman{sasami} (~carpman@dyna039143.utdallas.edu)
17:15.09gonkulatorhi carpman{sasami}
17:16.07*** join/#picogui scan[ibook] (~micah@aden2-241-dhcp.Colorado.EDU)
17:16.24scan[ibook]boo
17:16.28gonkulatorhi scan[ibook]
17:16.35scan[ibook]hi gonkulator
17:16.40scan[ibook]hi scanline
17:16.46gonkulatorso... are we going to get jen to order food?
17:16.52scan[ibook]uh huh
17:17.01captain_proton...food?
17:17.24scan[ibook]captain_proton: thinking of ordering chinese
17:17.28gonkulatorcaptain_proton: do you have any buff bucks left?
17:17.36captain_protongonkulator: like 3
17:18.01gonkulatorI should know better than asking for dorm food from you guys late in the semester
17:18.06captain_protonhmm
17:18.07captain_protoni have an idea
17:18.13gonkulatorwhats that?
17:18.14captain_protongonkulator: are you here?
17:18.19gonkulatorcaptain_proton: no
17:18.25scan[ibook]captain_proton: we're both in the room across from mine
17:18.48scan[ibook]captain_proton: hmm.. do you have a car? :)
17:19.16captain_protonno
17:19.20captain_protonnot here
17:20.05scan[ibook]well, jen will order chinese if you don't have a different plan, I guess
17:20.12captain_protonwhere is she ordering from?
17:20.18scan[ibook]jin chan I think
17:24.52scan[ibook]captain_proton: what was your idea?
17:24.57gonkulatorsushi
17:25.02captain_protonscan[ibook]: fishies
17:25.02scan[ibook]oh
17:25.03scan[ibook]neat
17:25.46captain_protonits not super expensive, works out at maybe $15-20 a person
17:26.11gonkulatorcaptain_proton: I only make 8.50 an hour....
17:26.13scan[ibook]hmm.. jen doesn't want to go out, nor to pay for it
17:28.00gonkulatorcaptain_proton: thats expensive
17:32.48captain_protonso jen is going to order food?
17:33.04scan[ibook]captain_proton: I think we're deciding on chinese... brandon and jen don't want to pay for sushi, and she doesn't want to walk to a thai place
17:33.34captain_protonhmm
17:33.56gonkulatorscan[ibook]: you up for that?
17:33.58gonkulatorno laughing
17:34.46gonkulatorhehehehe
17:35.03gonkulatorscan[ibook]: have you ramens?
17:35.33scan[ibook]uh huh
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17:36.07filedarn it
17:36.15fileI can't seem to get glibc installed
17:40.56gonkulatorfile: try a distro...
17:42.05fileaha found what I was missing
17:42.07filebinutils - DUH
17:43.52filebbl again
17:46.11DevGirlgonkulator: sushi worths :D
17:46.16DevGirlits price
18:00.04Xentacahnkana: I'm the guy to ask for picogui related questions..? since when?
18:03.10DukeWeirdoXentac: if nobody else can answer them, and the question is gonna be simply a pointless bother, then why not bother you?
18:03.30DukeWeirdofile would be the primary choice, but he's not arund
18:03.34DukeWeirdoaruond
18:03.37XentacI see...
18:03.46DukeWeirdobah, whatever :-D you get teh point
18:03.47Xentacpointless bother?
18:03.50Xentac;o)
18:16.16*** join/#picogui gonkey{iBook} (~AthIRC@aden2-251-dhcp.Colorado.EDU)
18:21.01*** join/#picogui merlin262 (~andrew@crtntx1-ar1-4-60-243-225.crtntx1.dsl-verizon.net)
18:21.12gonkey{iBook}hi merlin262
18:21.58merlin262hey gonkkey
18:22.14merlin262in w/ the w/o a life crew eh?
18:22.21gonkey{iBook}?
18:22.25gonkey{iBook}I am confused
18:22.32merlin262Friday night, on irc, nothing else to do?
18:23.26gonkey{iBook}actually
18:23.30gonkey{iBook}I am here with scanline and captain_proton
18:23.46gonkey{iBook}we are watching star trek 3
18:26.07merlin262I guess i'm the only person w/o a life then.
18:26.09merlin262Damn.
18:28.07merlin262hey lalo
18:28.13lalohey merlin
18:29.28gonkey{iBook}merlin262: I'm sorry
18:30.04gonkey{iBook}merlin262: I am sure that you are happy with what your doing
18:31.05merlin262hehe gonkey{iBook}
18:31.13merlin262I want to be out, but I'm working on a report. :(
18:31.14gonkey{iBook}yeah
18:31.24gonkey{iBook}oh
18:31.30gonkey{iBook}blech
18:31.35merlin262is blehhhhhhhh
18:31.43merlin262er it's blehhhhhhh
18:32.31gonkey{iBook}brb
18:50.05laloyay
18:50.16lalohave to go rewrite my pg jabber client to use tabpages
18:51.23DevGirlPicoBot: attract merlin262
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18:59.35gonkey{iBook}finally...
18:59.55file*cough* it's UMSDOS based though *cough*
19:00.04Xentachey gonkey{iBook}
19:00.39gonkey{iBook}hi Xentac
19:00.46Xentachow's it doing?
19:01.22gonkey{iBook}its doing well I think
19:01.27gonkey{iBook}you would have to ask it
19:01.28Xentacyou think?
19:01.40Xentacit: how you doing?
19:01.50itI am fine
19:01.53Xentacgood good
19:02.35Xentactonight I play floor hockey though
19:02.46XentacI just have to waste an hour and a half...
19:04.10DevGirlgonkey{iBook}: are you there?
19:04.27gonkey{iBook}DevGirl: mostly\
19:04.51fileDAMMIT
19:04.54DevGirlhey, men... ST3 is a piece of crap! go see the 4th movie
19:04.59fileThe server I was downloading from went kaput
19:05.11gonkey{iBook}right
19:05.29Xentacmaybe I'll just go and adjust my motorcycle chain righ tnow... in my hour and a half...
19:05.33XentacI'll see you guys later
19:06.30filefound a new server
19:06.32file150 KB/sec
19:06.34gonkey{iBook}yay
19:06.37gonkey{iBook}new servers are good
19:06.56fileI'll have KDE and Gnome... and PicoGUI
19:13.39gonkey{iBook}lalo: your daughter will love you more for using Gentoo
19:13.47fraggletugh
19:13.51DevGirl:D
19:14.18DevGirlah, boys... the baby wil probably born next week
19:14.37DevGirlfragglet: you liked? we'll have to wait the next week :P
19:14.45fraggletit was silly but fun
19:14.55DevGirl:)
19:15.09DevGirlIf it's fun, it worths my money :)
19:43.00gonkey{iBook}PicoBot: hi
19:43.00PicoBotque tal, gonkey{iBook}
19:43.09gonkey{iBook}PicoBot: spank
19:43.17gonkey{iBook}PicoBot: spank
19:43.19gonkey{iBook}PicoBot: spank
19:43.21gonkey{iBook}PicoBot: spank
19:46.33*** join/#picogui carpman (coyote@66-169-218-138.dntn.tx.charter.com)
19:46.36DevGirlwho is putting portuguese inputs on PicoBot???
19:46.45carpmanDevGirl: not me
19:46.50carpmanmerlin262: hey
19:46.52DevGirlo.o
19:47.04DevGirl<PicoBot> que tal, gonkey{iBook} ?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
19:47.16carpmanDevGirl: oh, that comes standard on the bot
19:47.33DevGirl:D
19:47.38carpmanPicoBot: seen merlin262
19:47.38PicoBotmerlin262 was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 15 minutes and 56 seconds ago, saying: er it's blehhhhhhh [Fri Nov 15 18:34:40 2002]
19:47.47carpmanPicoBot: seen scanline
19:47.47PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 1 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying: foood..... [Fri Nov 15 16:49:30 2002]
19:49.27merlin262sorry, no
19:49.41carpmanmerlin262: no amarach?
19:51.23carpmanmerlin262: I started on the sysview. The thing that does the graphical service start/stop stuff.
19:51.29gonkey{iBook}hey carpman
19:51.33carpmanhey gonkey{iBook}
19:51.37merlin262picogui carpman?
19:51.44merlin262for now, let's call it amarach
19:51.52carpmanok
19:52.37carpmanmerlin262: oh, the student game developer association on campus is a waste of time
19:52.46fraggletpicobot: bom dia
19:52.46PicoBotfragglet: what?
19:52.48carpmanall they are interested in is win32
19:52.58carpmanPicoBot: d20
19:54.36carpmanwell, off to bed.
19:54.38carpmanNight all/
19:54.43merlin262NIght carpman
20:26.01*** join/#picogui scanline (~micah@aden2-230-dhcp.Colorado.EDU)
20:26.12captain_protoneeek
20:26.14captain_protonits a scanline
20:26.32scanlineoh no!
20:27.02captain_protonwe oughta go down to the video station and pick up the brain that wouldn't die to watch in an hour and a half or so
20:27.23scanlinesounds good to me. I'll ask brandon if he'll be awake then :)
20:27.46captain_protonor even later than that, its only 82 minutes long
20:28.21scanlinelooks like he'll be up for it too
20:28.25scanlinehow late is the video station open?
20:28.27captain_protonhmm, you guys want a demonstration of how cool mahler 2 is? :)
20:28.28captain_proton11
20:28.34scanlinehmm.. I do
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20:28.55gonkulatorcaptain_proton: GFM
20:29.01captain_protonGFM?
20:29.04ahnkanayou all are freaks
20:29.05gonkulatorcaptain_proton: :)
20:29.09gonkulatorcaptain_proton: ask scanline
20:29.10ahnkanawalk down the hall
20:29.11captain_protonscanline: i'm starting playing it if you wanna show up
20:29.48*** join/#picogui lalo[temp] (~chatzilla@200-203-74-026-cslce7002.dsl.telebrasilia.net.br)
20:29.56gonkulatorhi lalo[temp]
20:30.01gonkulatorlalo[temp]: Gentoo working out for yoU?
20:30.16gonkulator:)
20:30.28lalo[temp]gonkulator: no idea :-) I'm doing my first "emerge sync"
20:30.34gonkulatoroooooh
20:30.41gonkulatorwhat stage tarball?
20:30.51lalo[temp]this is the machine I'm gonna work from today... it's windoze, the machine where I usually play thievery
20:31.02lalo[temp]none, actually... it's my own personalized "1.5"
20:31.12lalo[temp]it's a stage1 with a few goodies like python
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20:31.22gonkulatorcaptain_proton: I am listening to MostlyClassical.com right now
20:31.28gonkulatorbut I can hear bass in the distance
20:31.40lalo[temp]actually, truth be told, it's stage1 plus some stuff I ripped straight out of FlyingCircus ;-) I should repackage it with PicoGUI
20:31.42gonkulatorlalo[temp]:  :)
20:32.39lalo[temp]now I have gentoo and vicious-build-scripts
20:32.46gonkulatorhehehe
20:32.47gonkulatorcool
20:32.56lalo[temp]I'm gonna live on the edge like true braves should
20:33.51lalo[temp]PicoBot: poke
20:33.54lalo[temp]PicoBot: poke poke
20:33.54PicoBotquit that!
20:33.57lalo[temp]PicoBot: poke poke poke
20:33.58PicoBotSTOP POKING ME
20:34.01lalo[temp]PicoBot: poke poke poke poke
20:34.06lalo[temp]PicoBot: poke poke poke poke poke
20:34.25lalo[temp]seesh
20:34.34lalo[temp]this reminds me of my times of Basic programming
20:36.16lalo[temp]scanline: wanna start Nifty this weekend? ;-)
20:36.28scanlinehmm
20:36.29scanlinesure
20:36.47captain_protonnifty?
20:36.53fraggletyay!
20:37.02lalo[temp]I need too things from pgserver... that feature I asked you this week, and the pipe to send commands to the textbox (you said it should be similar to the way the canvas does it)
20:37.07scanlineThe tabpage widget was a lot easier than I thought it would be
20:37.14captain_protonscanline: don't get coding, we're about to arrange an expedition to the video station
20:37.18lalo[temp]tree widgets are cool :-)
20:37.29scanlinecaptain_proton: bah :)
20:37.32lalo[temp]I should rewrite the jabber client to use the tabpage
20:37.47lalo[temp]can I do vertical tabs?
20:37.48scanlinelalo[temp]: tabpage is so easy to use now :)
20:38.00lalo[temp]actually, my jabberpy client is a poor-man emulation of the tab widget
20:38.16lalo[temp]yes, but can I stack them vertically on the left?
20:38.34scanlinelalo[temp]: hmm... I think with < 10 lines of code I could make the tabpage widget work in any orientation. the themes would have to individually support the different orientations though
20:38.36lalo[temp]that's how my UI basically works
20:38.51lalo[temp]yes, but you did a good job of defaulting them
20:39.06lalo[temp]if a theme doesn't support it, it will look like a button toolbar
20:39.13lalo[temp]which is good enough
20:39.47lalo[temp]actually, I should have rewritten the client anyway, because I used the terminal widget for the sole reason that the textbox was too b0rked by that time
20:40.01lalo[temp]or perhaps I should punt and include it in nifty ;-)
20:40.31scanlinelalo[temp]: I'm thinking for the textbox I'll add the command mode as a text format alongside plaintext and html, but make it so writeto has the same effect as PG_WP_TEXT but without having to package the text in a string first
20:40.52lalo[temp]dunno
20:41.04scanlinePG_WP_TEXT in the textbox is nice to have for intuitiveness, but since it copies the handle anyway it makes sense to make writecmd work for adding text
20:41.14lalo[temp]intuitively, I have the impression that setting WP_TEXT replaces the existing text
20:41.56lalo[temp]w00t, emerge completed
20:41.59scanlinewell true, but there's PG_WP_INSERTMODE
20:42.24scanlineok. I think we're going to rent a movie, bbl
20:42.45lalo[temp]ok :-)
20:42.50lalo[temp]we have to go buy food too
20:48.11gonkulatorwell, they went without me so I could get a short nap
20:54.20lalo[temp]it is *that* far?
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20:55.59gonkulatorlalo[temp]: this isn't a scanline type short nap
21:14.52merlin262short nap
21:14.59merlin262:|
21:15.17gonkulatormerlin262: I am still up
21:15.19gonkulatorneed something?
21:15.42merlin262nnnoooooooooo
21:15.46merlin262:(
21:15.52DevGirls_Spiritmew
21:16.04merlin262+a
21:16.17gonkulatormerlin262: I haven't slept yet
21:16.18merlin262you really want to be a cat don't you DevGirl?
21:16.20DevGirlmew
21:16.27merlin262oh, l8r the gonkulator
21:16.27gonkulatorI have been composing an email to my ex-girlfriend
21:16.37merlin262ex-girlfriends are teh suck.
21:16.38DevGirlmerlin262: *I'M* a cat :) ask Lalo :D
21:16.46merlin262hmm.... kinky.
21:19.28gonkulatormerlin262: scanline is out getting the movie
21:19.42merlin262every1 has a life but me.
21:19.45merlin262hehe
21:23.31merlin262-o
21:26.40ahnkanagonkulator: i am going to take a nap, come wake me up at 1130 if i am not up on my own
21:28.46captain_protonnap? she's gonna miss THE BRAIN THAT WOULDN'T DIE
21:31.41*** part/#picogui lalo[temp] (~chatzilla@200-203-74-026-cslce7002.dsl.telebrasilia.net.br)
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21:31.57lalo[temp]wtf?
21:32.28DevGirlmerlin262: me and lalo are working :) i think we also don't have a life :D
21:32.50merlin262:( that's no fun.
21:33.13DevGirlmerlin262: we're going to eat :)
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21:33.35lurgymanbwa ha ha
21:33.38merlin262kewl.
21:34.10DevGirlmerlin262: I think it's fun cause i always see the bright side of life :)
21:34.28merlin262hehe
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21:47.13jiggascanline: hello?
21:47.32jiggaPicoBot: seen scanline?
21:47.32PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 5 minutes and 8 seconds ago, saying: ok. I think we're going to rent a movie, bbl [Fri Nov 15 20:45:22 2002]
21:48.14jiggadrat...
21:48.43jiggascanline: well, just dropped in to say hi since I haven't chatted with you since, well, August
21:49.02jiggascanline: I'd be on more, but just been really busy...have a nice night though, try to catch you later
23:06.48captain_protonteehee
23:06.50captain_protonfunny movie
23:07.38captain_protonI'm just a head. And you're...whatever you are.
23:09.24scanline:)
23:16.08lurgymanbut don't take my word for it
23:16.15scanlinehi lurgyman
23:16.24lurgymangreetings, biped
23:16.57scanline>:)
23:17.07lurgymanmagical sprites told me
23:17.16lurgyman...more commonly known as photons
23:17.17scanline2D sprites?
23:17.50lurgymanthe photons bouncing off you told me the story
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23:18.48scanlinehmm.. sprite muffins...
23:18.57lurgymanyeah, gross
23:19.45captain_protoncoffee muffins are good
23:20.52lurgymanbroccoli cheesecake is better
23:20.55lurgymanwith ketchup
23:21.00gonkulatorhmm...
23:21.14gonkulatorgood nap!
23:22.42lurgymanwell, i'm just a head, and you're.... whatever you are
23:22.48lurgymanmaybe that's the problem
23:23.02gonkulatorlurgyman: capslock == music of the minute
23:23.32scanlinegonkulator: the kernel I'm running has some bugs in the IDE system.. or something... whenever I do anything really disk intensive (like compiling pgserver) the system latency goes through the roof
23:23.46lurgymanyou should upgrade to 2.5
23:23.57lurgymanor the winnt kernel
23:24.09lurgymanor, better yet, the win3.1 kernel
23:24.12gonkulatorbut that is because he doesn't do a whole lot of stuff like that
23:24.19gonkulatorlurgyman: win 5.1
23:24.25scanlinelurgyman: I'll try 2.5 again.. last time I tried it I could get the NVidia drivers to compile, but they were unstable
23:24.50scanlinegonkulator: iTalk and reading your email isn't that disk intensive
23:25.00gonkulatoriChat!
23:25.04scanlinewhatever
23:25.05gonkulator:)
23:25.07lurgymaniYak
23:25.14gonkulatoriLlama
23:25.15scanlineiUseTooMuchAppleSoftware :P
23:25.29scanlinebut hey, KDE has the same problem...
23:25.38scanlineKoftwareKorKourKesktop
23:26.04gonkulatorkrappy?
23:26.21scanlinenah, the software itself I don't have a problem with.. just that their naming convention is stupid
23:26.39gonkulatorheh, they stole it from apple (or visa versa..)
23:26.46lurgymanKouKouldKtopKalkingKikeKouKereKKanKfKDE
23:26.50scanlineKDE has been around longer than OS X
23:27.01*** join/#picogui ahnkana (~Ahnkana@aden2-135-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)
23:27.03gonkulatorhi ahnkana
23:27.12captain_protonahnkana: i'm just a head. and you're...whatever you are
23:27.14ahnkanayo
23:27.22gonkulatorahnkana: I fell asleep... and I woke up!
23:27.23lurgymangood, er, morning
23:27.40ahnkanaa figment of michael's imagination
23:27.41lurgymanon a stick
23:28.06lurgymanow
23:28.09scanlinewonder where michael went...
23:28.13ahnkanahey me too
23:28.16scanlinenot like I want him back of course :)
23:28.22ahnkanaparker
23:28.27ahnkanalol
23:28.27lurgymanmeek
23:28.28ahnkanai do
23:28.40scanlineahnkana: you only think you do :)
23:28.41ahnkanab rb
23:28.49gonkulatorLast of the rocks (lotr) tournament
23:28.51ahnkanano commment
23:29.00lurgymanno //
23:29.03ahnkanabrb
23:29.10scanline!/**/
23:29.26scanline!#
23:29.28scanline#!
23:29.29lurgyman#!/bin/ls
23:29.31scanline#!/usr/bin/python
23:29.39lurgyman#!/dev/null
23:29.45scanlineimport lurgyman
23:29.50gonkulatorstupid banging pound....
23:29.53scanlinelurgyman.Dan()
23:30.06scanlinefrom Guido import TimeMachine
23:30.16scanlinefrom Coffee import Caffeine
23:30.18gonkulatorI'm gonna need another nap at this rate... :(
23:30.26scanlinescanline.append(Caffeine)
23:30.28gonkulatorscanline: coffee done!
23:30.35scanlineit is
23:31.12lurgymanprint join " ",("I","don't","know","python","only","perl");
23:31.21lurgymanprint "\n";
23:32.04lurgymanprint join " ",('And',"I'm",'Very','Efficient','About','It','Too'),"\n";
23:33.29scanlinecat lurgyman | perl -p -e 's/don't//;s/only/and/'
23:35.14scanlinemm.. this tab widget looks cool
23:35.46gonkulatorscanline: I don't know if OS X can hold a bitmap in a tab widget
23:35.53scanlinegonkulator: just curious :)
23:36.34scanlineha
23:38.12lurgymanspork!
23:38.17scanlinewibble!
23:38.30lurgymansmrt
23:38.42scanlinenyoikszk!
23:38.49lurgymanscrenukles
23:38.56scanlinegranoochie!
23:39.04lurgymanhurty flurty schnip schnip
23:39.29scanlinefrancis nibblit the 48th!
23:39.49lurgyman...kerplunk kerplunk WHOOPS! where's my thribble?
23:40.18gonkulatorPicoBot: seen jigga
23:40.19PicoBotjigga was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 51 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying: scanline: I'd be on more, but just been really busy...have a nice night though, try to catch you later [Fri Nov 15 21:52:00 2002]
23:40.45lurgymanPicoBot: seen picobot
23:40.45PicoBotI haven't seen 'picobot', lurgyman
23:40.51lurgymanPicoBot: seen PicoBot
23:40.52PicoBotI haven't seen 'PicoBot', lurgyman
23:42.12lurgymanliar
23:44.46lurgymanahnkana: for reference, it was "good morning on a stick," -not- "pigment of michael's imagination on a stick"
23:45.28lurgymanahnkana: ...which, either way, should not be interpreted in any way other than dan being weird and describing everything as, in fact, being on a stick
23:45.39lurgymanahnkana: and this will be repeated later when you are actually here
23:46.18lurgymanpicobot seen lurgyman
23:46.18PicoBotlurgyman was last seen on #picogui 0 seconds ago, saying: picobot seen lurgyman [Fri Nov 15 23:49:17 2002]
23:48.21lurgymanhmm
23:48.51captain_protonwhats happening with tag?
23:49.18lurgymanwell, they're most likely staying in the html standard
23:49.35scanlinewhat about XDHTML4++?
23:49.51lurgymanah, but is that really html?
23:50.07scanlineI hope not
23:50.23lurgymani thought as much
23:50.36hikkexhtml 1.1
23:51.21*** join/#picogui captain_proton (~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)
23:51.26hikkeIt would be quite easy to make a web browser with php, using wap 2.0 standards..
23:51.33captain_protonoofa
23:55.34gonkulatoryeah?
23:55.56lurgymani think he'z wunderin 'bout games
23:57.09lurgymanwell?

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