irclog2html for #picogui on 20021125

00:00.03carpmanok then.
00:00.05KeyserSozeor have that auto-speech thing turned on.
00:00.18carpmanMy eyes did not see that!!!
00:00.44KeyserSozecarpman: denial isn't just a river in Egypt
00:00.53file[laptop]time for the new term restocking of my binders
00:00.54SophieI like anime. Adultish anime, anyway
00:00.57KeyserSozes/denial/Da Nile
00:01.13Sophienot sexy, I mean, just not kiddy
00:02.19Sophie*sigh* I should just keep my mouth shut
00:02.55carpman...huh?
00:03.24KeyserSozesophie must have been upset that no one responded to her.
00:03.27file[laptop]mmm
00:03.37carpmanoh
00:04.03carpmanI haven't realy seen enough cowboy bebop to respond with anything more than file's inteligence.
00:04.56KeyserSozeThinnest notebook ever! -->  http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1755&p=15
00:05.50file[laptop]FRELL!
00:06.20file[laptop]I'm trying to move chimera's monitor off my desk
00:06.25file[laptop]but it's not working out
00:06.35gonkulatorso tell it that it needs more exercise
00:06.48gonkulatorthats what I always hear when I am not working out
00:07.10gonkulatoranyway, I am off
00:07.14gonkulatorI have people to visit
00:07.42file[laptop]eh I guess I'll try after I get this assignment done!
00:08.53KeyserSozewhile my linksys router is my dhcp server and router, how can I set up a DNS on another box?
00:09.16carpmanrm -rf /var/tmp/portage/*
00:09.18carpmanhehe
00:09.21KeyserSozei mean, i want a DNS to resolve hostnames on my local network
00:09.35carpmanwow, this is taking a long time
00:09.47KeyserSozehow much you have in there?
00:09.57carpmanKeyserSoze: I've never emptied it
00:10.08KeyserSozei had a couple gig in mine, yesterday
00:10.16gonkulatorwell, I am off
00:10.18gonkulatorlater KeyserSoze
00:10.21gonkulatorlater carpman
00:10.23KeyserSozebye, gonkulator
00:10.25gonkulatorlater file[laptop]
00:10.25carpmanbye gonkulator
00:10.25gonkulatorlater ahnkana
00:10.34merlin262night gonkulator
00:10.38merlin262flooder that you are. :P
00:10.49merlin262Fresco: a release.... finally
00:10.59merlin262I still say they are the GNU Hurd of GUIs
00:11.02KeyserSozeer, wait.  maybe that wasn't /var/tmp/portage
00:11.13KeyserSozemaybe it was /usr/portage/distfiles that had a lot of crap
00:11.47KeyserSozeyeah, distfiles has 500MB on another machine
00:20.40merlin262carpman: have you started the CS homework yet?
00:21.09carpmanmerlin262: no
00:21.19carpmanmerlin262: its just a sort, right?
00:21.25merlin262is it?
00:21.54merlin262?Arrays and sorting?: Write a program which prompts the user to enter a sentence on the SPIM console. 1) Sort the letters in the sentence into the ASCII collating sequence (i.e. alphabetically). Print the results.
00:21.59merlin262blehhhh to the ?
00:22.16carpmanmerlin262: yeah, easy
00:22.25merlin262hehehehehehehe
00:24.42carpmanhehe, I have a calc test tommorow, I have more important things to do.
00:24.50carpmanI'll do this in class.
00:25.27merlin262I suck at teh bullshit.
00:25.45carpmanbrb, switching to sasami
00:26.26*** join/#picogui carpman{sasami} (coyote@66-169-218-138.dntn.tx.charter.com)
00:26.43merlin262hrm.... I still gotta take the final tho....
00:26.56carpmanDOH
00:27.04carpmanI init 6'd the wrong machine
00:27.07merlin262the LA final will be fun....
00:27.16merlin262everyone point and laugh at carpman!
00:27.21merlin262HA HA!
00:27.45carpmanblehhhh
00:27.51merlin262hehe
00:28.18carpmanok,brb
00:29.31*** join/#picogui carpman{sasami} (coyote@66-169-218-138.dntn.tx.charter.com)
00:29.36carpman{sasami}blehhhhhhhhhhhhh
00:29.40merlin262blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
00:29.53merlin262thank god, vacation time is a coming.
00:30.40carpman{sasami}yes
00:32.30merlin262bigger plans for sleep tho
00:40.20merlin262ever had one of those songs you couldn't place.....
00:40.52carpman{sasami}no
00:40.53carpman{sasami}:)
00:40.58merlin262yeah right.
00:41.23merlin262hehe
00:44.29file[laptop]wb Mr. Xentac
00:44.37merlin262hey Xentac
00:46.29XentacMr. Xentac?
00:46.33Xentacwhat the heck?
00:46.40file[laptop]Xentac: hahahahaha
00:46.49Xentacif you haven't already listened...
00:46.51Xentaccheck this out:
00:46.52Xentachttp://www.vorbis.com/~emmett/beige.ogg
00:47.18Xentacit's almost like contraban ;o)
00:47.24file[laptop]lol
00:49.28Xentachehehe... there's a package in gentoo called gentoo... know what it is?
00:49.46file[laptop]what?!?!?
00:50.11Xentacyou don't want to look it up or anything?
00:50.13Xentaccheck freshmeat...
00:50.17file[laptop]no thanks
00:50.20file[laptop]just tell
00:50.41Xentacnope, I refuse
00:50.48file[laptop]oh no no no
00:50.49file[laptop]do tell
00:50.50carpman{sasami}No info for file!
00:50.54Xentachehehe
00:51.52Xentacoh wait...
00:51.57*** join/#picogui gonkulator (~AthIRC@12-253-206-249.client.attbi.com)
00:52.00Xentacmuch better
00:52.06file[laptop]:)
00:52.28file[laptop]gonkulator: don't cheat
00:52.41Xentacgonkulator: and keep the ball on the table :P
00:54.19file[laptop]are PCI cards backwards compatible with earlier versions?
00:54.26Xentacummm..
00:54.29Xentacyou mean like ISA?
00:54.38file[laptop]O.o
00:54.39carpman{sasami}file[laptop]: yes
00:54.43carpman{sasami}n00b
00:54.44file[laptop]no I mean PCI 2.1 used in a PCI 2.0 slot
00:54.49Xentacoh
00:54.51file[laptop]carpman{sasami}: well I haven't had PCI slots before
00:54.53Xentachehehe
00:55.11Xentaccarpman{sasami}: nah... he's not a n00b... just... slightly behind the technological curve...
00:55.18Xentacjust wait... in about 5 years he'll have his first zaurus...
00:55.22carpman{sasami}file[laptop]: you should try them without ketchup first, but then you can go ahead if you think they need it.
00:55.47*** join/#picogui Cambo (pirc@cm216036165101.westman.wave.ca)
00:57.30file[laptop]carpman{sasami} :)
01:00.16Xentacjust for the stats... that way carpman isn't the most beat on person ;o)
01:02.21gonkulator?
01:02.25gonkulatorhi Xentac
01:02.28Xentachi gonkulator
01:02.45gonkulatorhi Xentac
01:02.56Xentachi gonkulator
01:02.58carpman{sasami}where is the stats page?
01:03.03Xentachttp://www.joshuawise.com/~joshua/logs/picogui.htm
01:05.21file[laptop]who is doing that page?
01:05.51XentacNonToxic:
01:05.54Xentacer.. yeah...
01:05.57carpman{sasami}carpman{tallest} has quite a potty mouth. 1.4% words were foul language.
01:05.57carpman{sasami}For example, like this:
01:05.57carpman{sasami}<PROTECTED>
01:05.59carpman{sasami}?!?!?!?!
01:06.24Xentacsubstr("ass", "class")
01:06.31carpman{sasami}yeah, but...
01:06.38Xentacit's a stupid script ;o)
01:07.22carpman{sasami}"SisterXentac also makes sailors blush, 1.1% of the time."
01:08.08file[laptop]NonToxic???
01:08.11file[laptop]you there?
01:09.11flexoXentac: stupid? nah... quoting c++ code is really unpolite imho :o)
01:09.28Xentac:P
01:09.33Xentacthat's just C code...
01:09.41flexoclass?
01:09.45Xentacstring lib stuff...
01:09.55flexowith classes?
01:10.05Xentacno...
01:10.23Xentacwith the string literal "class"... the word... you know... comprised of 5 letters... ascii letters..
01:10.29XentacI could give you hex values if you wanted...
01:10.41flexoehm?
01:10.43flexouuh
01:10.49flexoi was refering to
01:10.49flexo02:07 <carpman{sasami}>      <carpman{tallest}> AoFBot: class
01:11.01flexonm ;)
01:14.14Xentacok... about to start a special xentac radio...
01:14.17Xentacwho wants to listen?
01:16.17file[laptop]omg... another call?!?!?!?
01:16.43file[laptop]good - not for me
01:21.33XentacKidder: you there?
01:22.17file[laptop]it looks/feels like XP
01:30.15*** join/#picogui Cambo (pirc@cm216036165101.westman.wave.ca)
01:43.37*** join/#picogui proton-elsewhere (~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)
01:43.49file[laptop]proton-elsewhere: I bet
01:44.11proton-elsewherefile[laptop]: explain this then
01:44.19file[laptop]proton-elsewhere: I can't explain this
01:47.01*** join/#picogui captain_pistachi (~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)
02:07.11captain_pistachiwhee, vnc 3.3.5 is quite speedy
02:08.05*** join/#picogui dacut (dacut@pool-151-201-19-185.pitt.east.verizon.net)
02:10.57merlin262hmmmm.........
02:11.20file[laptop]oh no
02:11.51Xentacmerlin262: you should listen to xentac radio instead!
02:11.57captain_pistachiwindows is sometimes useful
02:12.05captain_pistachinot super often, but sometimes
02:17.55file[laptop]captain_pistachi: you will be assimilated
02:21.14Xentachey, how come you two aren't listening to xentac radio?
02:21.15Xentac;o)
02:23.35file[laptop]URL?
02:24.31Xentachttp://navi.picogui.org:8009/xentac.ogg
02:25.38file[laptop]cool? hahaha
02:26.16carpman{sasami}rox?
02:26.36carpman{sasami}say toque!
02:26.40Xentacyeah... it rox
02:26.41Xentac;o)
02:27.25carpman{sasami}hehehe
02:28.11file[laptop]I am not worthy!
02:28.39*** join/#picogui Xentac[laptop] (~jchu@amga45cyy30x9.bc.hsia.telus.net)
02:28.42Xentac[laptop]oooo... better idea...
02:28.44carpman{sasami}w00t!
02:28.47carpman{sasami}emacs!
02:28.54Xentac[laptop]802.11 is a wonderful thing ;o)
02:29.38Xentac[laptop]mmmm... my favourite line is coming up
02:29.43Xentac[laptop]"If it compiles on NT"
02:29.44file[laptop]the lights are flickering alot
02:29.53merlin262carpman{sasami}: emacs?
02:29.56file[laptop]I think the wind is getting worse
02:30.00carpman{sasami}merlin262: EMACS!
02:30.08merlin262carpman{sasami}: EMACS?!
02:30.13carpman{sasami}merlin262: EMACS!!!!!
02:30.31merlin262We're not worthy!!!!!!!!
02:31.17merlin262carpman{sasami}: so, what about emacs/
02:31.29carpman{sasami}merlin262: it was in the song
02:31.51merlin262carpman{sasami}: oic
02:34.18file[laptop]this is strangely... hypnotizing
02:35.14carpman{sasami}Fromage!!!!!
02:35.18Xentac[laptop]:)
02:35.39carpman{sasami}The only use of the French language I approve of.
02:35.52Xentac[laptop]hehehe
02:38.12carpman{sasami}your funny Xentac
02:38.38carpman{sasami}you mean a minion?
02:44.06merlin262Yes! I need a minion!
02:44.13merlin262Behold my minions!
02:45.28carpman{sasami}Eh
02:47.01Xentac[laptop]file[laptop]: aren't you still listening?
02:47.31file[laptop]Xentac: no I'm watching a very emotional TV program
02:48.36file[laptop]hahahaha
03:00.07carpman{sasami}well, night all
03:02.14Xentac[laptop]night carpman{sasami}
03:02.45Xentac[laptop]now I only have 4...
03:02.56file[laptop]I feel sad
03:03.30Xentac[laptop]file[laptop]: listen to xentac radio! that'll cheer you up
03:03.45file[laptop]I doubt it
03:03.50file[laptop]I feel depressed all of a sudden
03:04.00Xentac[laptop]maybe you don't want to listen to this song then... ;o)
03:04.21Xentac[laptop]it's not exactly sad... but it's slow...
03:07.45Xentac[laptop]and... I'll have a guest speaker soon!
03:09.05Xentac[laptop]file[laptop]: seriously, sometimes it just happens
03:09.16Xentac[laptop]now... listen to xentac radio... it'll cheer you up!
03:09.38file[laptop]ok
03:09.41Xentac[laptop]hehehe
03:09.48file[laptop]URL?
03:09.51Xentac[laptop]dude... I see a bajillion connections...
03:09.53Xentac[laptop]having trouble?
03:10.01Xentac[laptop]http://navi.picogui.org:8009/xentac.ogg
03:11.09file[laptop]I expect some cheering up words when you get back on the air
03:11.52Xentac[laptop]sure
03:11.54Xentac[laptop]I'll do that
03:12.13Xentac[laptop]2 minutes...
03:13.31*** join/#picogui eks (eks@h24-82-197-140.wp.shawcable.net)
03:13.44eksPicoBot: who am i?
03:13.44PicoBotit has been said that eks is Dave Poirier, author of the pgui-protocol document, mailto:instinc@users.sf.net or ported pgserver to DEC Alpha
03:13.54ekseheh, at least it remembers me :)
03:14.00Xentac[laptop]hehehe
03:14.01Xentac[laptop]hey eks
03:14.08ekshello Xentac :)
03:14.52file[laptop]Xentac: your voice is cheering up enough
03:15.30Xentac[laptop]that's good
03:16.31file[laptop]ok - I'm over my panic attack
03:17.33Xentac[laptop]hmmm... there was someone listening... I wasn't even sure who they were... but they're gone now...
03:17.39file[laptop]Xentac: that was sad so I disconnected
03:17.54Xentac[laptop]what...? the song?
03:18.00file[laptop]yes
03:18.02file[laptop]the feel of it
03:18.05Xentac[laptop]ok...
03:18.12Xentac[laptop]the song is just about over...
03:18.13file[laptop]but I'm okay now, I think
03:18.16Xentac[laptop]hehehe
03:18.27Xentac[laptop]how about you listen if I try to not play any more sad music ;o)
03:18.35file[laptop]hehe
03:18.38file[laptop]I soon must go to sleep
03:18.46Xentac[laptop]or.. not for a while anyway...
03:19.44Xentac[laptop]ok...
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03:20.53file[laptop]yes - I'm okay now...
03:21.03file[laptop]I feel miserable though
03:28.04file[laptop]want something to laugh at?
03:28.14file[laptop]Xentac?
03:28.22Xentac[laptop]ok...
03:28.34file[laptop]http://users.staticky.com/joshnet/rap/hackers.wav
03:28.52file[laptop]I didn't write it
03:28.56file[laptop]I just ... performed it
03:31.10Xentac[laptop]I'll listen if you listen to the stream...
03:31.45file[laptop]listening.
03:32.10file[laptop]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
03:32.11file[laptop]DON'T
03:32.24file[laptop]DEAR GOD NO
03:32.26file[laptop]IT'S EVIL
03:32.42file[laptop]you've got no friends, so that's fine
03:32.46Xentac[laptop]I'll listen if you listen to the stream...
03:32.48Xentac[laptop]er...
03:32.49Xentac[laptop]:P
03:33.35file[laptop]I can't listen
03:33.39Xentac[laptop]bwahahaha
03:34.02Xentac[laptop]you sound like my brother when you rap ;o)
03:34.08file[laptop]oh joy
03:34.11file[laptop]I didn't mean to rap...
03:34.13file[laptop]I just kinda said it
03:34.19Xentac[laptop]that's rap :)
03:34.24file[laptop]yeah... but not in my heart man
03:34.27file[laptop];)
03:34.31Xentac[laptop]hehehe
03:34.33Xentac[laptop]it's all good
03:34.34file[laptop]so who heard it?
03:34.43file[laptop]how many peeps?
03:34.49Xentac[laptop]ummm... like 3 people..
03:34.53Xentac[laptop]all live here...
03:34.56Xentac[laptop]that's it
03:34.58file[laptop]oh dear me ok
03:35.04file[laptop]and they said what about it?
03:35.12Xentac[laptop]nothing...
03:35.18Xentac[laptop]they seem to take my crap pretty silently...
03:35.21Xentac[laptop]I'll ask them...
03:36.57Xentac[laptop]hey, you stopped listening!
03:37.07file[laptop]:)
03:40.13Xentac[laptop]now I just have local guys listening :(
03:40.26ahnkanalistening?
03:40.40Xentac[laptop]er... xentac radio
03:40.58Xentac[laptop]http://navi.picogui.org:8009/xentac.ogg if your music player can handle streaming oggs...
03:43.34Xentac[laptop]ahnkana: if you tell me your name I'll make a shout out to you after this song ;o)
03:43.56file[laptop]SAY MY NAME!
03:44.11Xentac[laptop]ahnkana: if you tell me your name I'll make a shout out to you after this song ;o)
03:44.15Xentac[laptop]bah
03:44.18file[laptop]lol
03:44.18Xentac[laptop]I hit the up key again...
03:44.24Xentac[laptop]I can't even remember your name :P
03:44.28file[laptop]that's good
03:44.41file[laptop]PicoBot: file?
03:44.41PicoBotAoFBot: file or a little girl in a frilly dress. or not scanline's mother or going to die at the hands of DevGirlJr several times or the whipping boy of the room or Joshua Colp
03:44.42AoFBotI don't know about thatPicoBot.
03:44.43Xentac[laptop]I'll just call you file...
03:44.49Xentac[laptop]oh yeah... Joshua...
03:46.43file[laptop]HEY!
03:46.46file[laptop]oh
03:46.55file[laptop]yes
03:47.07file[laptop]that is right - your one of the few people to get it
03:47.22file[laptop]wish DevGirl and lalo luck
03:47.28file[laptop]even though they aren't listening
03:48.12file[laptop]RANDOM!
03:48.18Xentac[laptop]no, not random :P
03:48.23file[laptop]hahahahaha
03:48.27Xentac[laptop]how do other people pronounce it?
03:48.32file[laptop]Colt
03:48.42Xentac[laptop]there was a p...
03:48.45file[laptop]I know
03:48.49file[laptop]they usually forget it's a p
03:48.51file[laptop]and think it's a t
03:48.53Xentac[laptop]hehehe, I see...
03:48.59Xentac[laptop]I saw p... so I left it at that
03:49.00file[laptop]I have ot say "p as in Peter"
03:49.04file[laptop]er to
03:50.04file[laptop]time for sleep
03:50.16Xentac[laptop]night file[laptop]
03:50.21file[laptop]SLEEP ROCKS!
03:50.28file[laptop]even though I overslept and got an extra few hours of sleep
03:50.33Xentac[laptop]hehehe
03:50.41ahnkanaXentac[laptop]: sorry man, that file is to big, my computer has no space
03:50.46ahnkanaotherwise i'd listen
03:50.52ahnkananight file
03:51.05file[laptop]ahnkana: it's a stream, don't download it!
03:51.13file[laptop]lol
03:51.25Xentac[laptop]ahnkana: it's a stream... you use a music player (winamp, xmms, etc), not downloading
03:51.33ahnkanaoh, ok
03:53.30ahnkanai hear things
03:53.35ahnkanayippe ki yea
03:53.49ahnkanai just dropped my tea thingy in my tea'
03:53.58merlin262ahnkana: there are pills that can fix 'hearing things' :P
03:54.04ahnkanalol
03:54.14Xentac[laptop]ahnkana: that's good
03:56.07ahnkanaXentac: do we get to hear you talk?
03:56.23Xentac[laptop]yeah...
03:56.26Xentac[laptop]I'll talk after this song
03:56.46ahnkanasweet
03:57.34ahnkanawill you play some metallica?
03:57.47ahnkanai don't know if you like metallica, but i do, and my cd got stolen
03:57.51Xentac[laptop]I don't think I have any metallica... I could try...
03:58.40ahnkanaXentac[laptop]: hi naomi
03:58.52ahnkanawe can hear you
03:59.01ahnkanahi back
03:59.04Xentac[laptop]PicoBot: ahnkana
03:59.04PicoBoti guess ahnkana is scanline's roommate's girlfriend
03:59.07ahnkanajen
03:59.11ahnkanamy name is jen
03:59.27ahnkanacheater, i told you
03:59.46ahnkanabut the question is, what is scanline's name?
03:59.53ahnkanaand his roommate?
04:00.01ahnkanaYEA!!!
04:00.04ahnkanavery good
04:00.07ahnkanamichael king
04:00.09ahnkanalol
04:00.22ahnkanano
04:00.49ahnkanalol, file?
04:00.58Xentac[laptop]no, he's not listening
04:01.06ahnkanai know, he went to sleep
04:01.16ahnkanai should be typing a paper, but i don't want to
04:01.53Xentac[laptop]hehehe
04:02.08ahnkanaso who is naomi...i am bored
04:02.35ahnkana(shouldn't be..but i am)
04:03.10Xentac[laptop]hehehe
04:03.14ahnkanaok, i'll keep listening, but i have to go paper now
04:03.24Xentac[laptop]well... I'll probably be stopping it soon...
04:03.35ahnkanawell i suppose it will stop then, won't it
04:03.51Keyser[away]is xentac streaming?
04:03.54Xentac[laptop]Keyser[away]: he is
04:03.59Keyser[away]agh!
04:03.59Xentac[laptop]you wanna listen?
04:04.03Keyser[away]and I almost missed it
04:04.05ahnkanait's not bad
04:04.10Xentac[laptop]hehehe
04:04.19Xentac[laptop]I'm gonna have like 3 more songs...
04:04.23Xentac[laptop]then a finale... sound good?
04:04.27Keyser[away]sounds good
04:04.33ahnkanaif i had mp3's on my computer i am sure i could play worse
04:04.41Xentac[laptop]hehehe
04:04.45Keyser[away]can you give me the url?
04:04.46Xentac[laptop]ahnkana: thanks about it not being bad
04:04.50Xentac[laptop]Keyser[away]: http:
04:04.52Xentac[laptop]er...
04:04.54ahnkanap://navi.picogui.org:8009/xentac.ogg
04:04.59ahnkanawith an htt
04:04.59Xentac[laptop]ahnkana: thanks
04:05.30ahnkanacaptain_pistachi: I DON'T WANT TO DO HW
04:06.00captain_pistachiahnkana: me either
04:06.02ahnkanaXentac: this is cheesy song...lol
04:06.10Xentac[laptop]ahnkana: yes, yes it is
04:07.25ahnkanaXentac: they should have stuck to french
04:08.07Xentac[laptop]oops... DJ faux pas...
04:08.17Xentac[laptop]talking when they're singing ;o)
04:08.34ahnkanalol
04:09.44Xentac[laptop]KeyserSoze: not listening anymore?
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04:10.10gonkulatorPicoBot: seen Sophie
04:10.11PicoBotSophie was last seen on #picogui 4 hours, 8 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: likes cowboy bebop [Sun Nov 24 17:05:39 2002]
04:10.15gonkulatorPicoBot: seen scanline
04:10.15PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 5 hours, 54 minutes and 51 seconds ago, saying: takes a short nap while galeon and gimp emerge [Sun Nov 24 15:19:18 2002]
04:10.20gonkulatorPicoBot: seen captain_proton
04:10.21PicoBotcaptain_proton was last seen on #picogui 16 hours, 21 minutes and 52 seconds ago, saying: 'night [Sun Nov 24 04:52:22 2002]
04:10.27gonkulatorPicoBot: seen file[laptop]
04:10.27PicoBotfile[laptop] was last seen on #picogui 19 minutes and 14 seconds ago, saying: lol [Sun Nov 24 20:55:07 2002]
04:10.30gonkulatorPicoBot: seen Xentac
04:10.31PicoBotXentac was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 42 minutes and 52 seconds ago, saying: monitors the stream with his zaurus... [Sun Nov 24 19:31:32 2002]
04:10.34gonkulatorPicoBot: seen KeyserSoze
04:10.35PicoBotKeyserSoze was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 58 minutes and 48 seconds ago, saying: yeah, distfiles has 500MB on another machine [Sun Nov 24 17:15:40 2002]
04:10.40KeyserSozei'm here!
04:10.45gonkulatorPicoBot: seen AoFBot
04:10.45PicoBotAoFBot was last seen on #picogui 26 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: I don't know about thatPicoBot. [Sun Nov 24 20:48:35 2002]
04:10.48ahnkanaXentac[laptop]: YEA for Naomi
04:10.53gonkulatorPicoBot: seen ahnkana
04:10.54PicoBotahnkana was last seen on #picogui 5 seconds ago, saying: Xentac[laptop]: YEA for Naomi [Sun Nov 24 21:14:42 2002]
04:11.00gonkulatorPicoBot: seen hikke
04:11.01PicoBothikke was last seen on #picogui 15 hours, 24 minutes and 27 seconds ago, saying: Hehe, screen & irssi is quite br0ken in pterm ;) [Sun Nov 24 05:50:27 2002]
04:11.13gonkulatorhi ahnkana
04:11.15gonkulatorhi KeyserSoze
04:11.19gonkulatorhi NonToxic
04:11.30KeyserSozehi gonkulator
04:11.30Xentac[laptop]gonkulator: just finishing another session of xentac radio..
04:11.55Sophiewho's singin?
04:12.01KeyserSozeso, yet again, i was the *coolest* person in the whole store!
04:12.10Xentac[laptop]KeyserSoze: wow... useful uses of technology...
04:12.22Xentac[laptop]Sophie: Emmett Plant
04:12.51Xentac[laptop]you don't like it...?
04:12.53KeyserSozeSophie: bastard!
04:12.53Sophie:P
04:13.36KeyserSozedid i tell you guys i set up NFS?  got the server set to export the shares at boot, and the other two machines mount them automatically.
04:13.42Sophiemm ramen noodles.
04:13.49Xentac[laptop]KeyserSoze: cool
04:14.30ahnkanatwo hands!!
04:14.40ahnkanamy roommate
04:14.43ahnkanaso there
04:14.45ahnkana7
04:14.49KeyserSozehow's he listening, if not on a computer?
04:14.54ahnkanag'night
04:15.05Sophieit's early
04:15.14Xentac[laptop]KeyserSoze: because they're listening to it on someone else's machine ;o)
04:15.15ahnkanaXentac: where are you?
04:15.21Xentac[laptop]Victoria
04:15.26ahnkanaXentac[laptop]: so is my roommate
04:15.42Xentac[laptop]I needed some reason... to go...
04:15.48Xentac[laptop]right... so I had 7 listeners...
04:16.00ahnkanayea for Xentac
04:16.05Xentac[laptop]so... was it good?
04:16.09ahnkanai liked
04:16.25KeyserSoze:)
04:16.33ahnkanamy roommate says to tell you she thought it was awesome
04:16.37SophieI need a schedule of radio-times. Then I'll put out the word
04:16.44Xentac[laptop]KeyserSoze: dude... I even played it twice!
04:16.45Xentac[laptop]hehehe...
04:16.52Sophiehow many listeners can you have max?
04:17.20Xentac[laptop]I'll try to schedule better...
04:17.30Xentac[laptop]10 right now... I could probably go up to 20 without scanline complaining...
04:17.32Xentac[laptop]but no more
04:17.47KeyserSozecan you set up a schedule, TiVo style?
04:18.01KeyserSozethen Sophie and I can set our machines to record what we want :p
04:18.16KeyserSozewon't have to listen to commercials and what not :D
04:19.22KeyserSozeice?
04:19.51KeyserSozeicecast!
04:20.24Xentac[laptop]hehehe
04:20.36Xentac[laptop]icecast
04:20.38Xentac[laptop]ices...
04:20.40Xentac[laptop]anyway...
04:20.46Xentac[laptop]Naomi's here
04:20.47Xentac[laptop]so I go
04:20.56Sophie:)
04:23.37KeyserSozeonly thieves block pop-up ads -->   http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/02/11/24/2055253.shtml?tid=95
04:24.25KeyserSozei like the anti-theft example website.
04:24.33flexoyea
04:24.37flexoits so stupid :)
04:24.56KeyserSozeit said to "please close down all programs that block ads"
04:25.03flexoespecially thy "advanced encrypting technology"
04:25.15KeyserSozei have no such program, i am just using mozilla with java turned off, and without flash
04:25.42flexomozilla has the feature to block popups
04:25.50flexodunno if its enabled by default
04:25.54flexoin phoenix it is
04:26.36KeyserSozei did shut off "allow websites to: raise or lower windows"
04:26.55KeyserSozebut if you just shut off all javascript, it'll do the same thing, right?
04:27.06flexoyes
04:27.12flexoor
04:27.13flexohm
04:27.25flexo*shrug*
04:27.40flexobtw
04:27.45flexotheir download protection is cool
04:29.00flexoAnti-Leech Java Demo has chosed not to allow any other browsers than Internet Explorer to download files from this page.
04:29.03flexo;)
04:29.30flexothey should get sued
04:51.36captain_protongrumble
04:51.42captain_protonit took FAR too long to get back
04:51.45gonkulatorcaptain_proton: whats up?
04:52.20KeyserSozeget back?
04:52.59captain_protonyes
04:54.42gonkulatorwhoa
04:54.50gonkulatorI just learned what the speed on my burner is
04:54.58gonkulatorit is a 16x8x24 burner
04:55.11KeyserSozein the new ibook?
04:55.20gonkulatorKeyserSoze: yeah
04:55.26KeyserSoze16x is what, like 5 minutes for a cd?
04:55.41gonkulatorPicoBot: 80/16
04:55.41PicoBot5
04:55.56gonkulatorKeyserSoze: yep
04:57.04scanlinehi captain_proton
04:57.37KeyserSoze16x is pretty good.  the difference between 16x and 24x is only 1:40.
04:57.58gonkulatorscanline: I burn at 16x on my iBook!!!
04:58.03scanlineyay
04:58.04gonkulatorscanline: I was expecting an 8x burner!
04:58.20KeyserSozeeek.  8x?
04:58.36KeyserSozeno way i'd buy an 8x nowadays.
04:58.40captain_protonsup scanline
04:58.51gonkulatorKeyserSoze: well, the burner was just an added bonus
04:59.26KeyserSozegonkulator: in what way?
04:59.55gonkulatorKeyserSoze: I got it for the speed increase and the video card
05:00.19gonkulator800 mHz and ATI RADEON is a lot better than 500 mHz and ATI RAGE MOBILITY
05:01.52KeyserSozePicoBot: (800/500-1)*100
05:01.53PicoBot60
05:02.28KeyserSoze60% is pretty noticeable.
05:02.35KeyserSozedo they both use pc100?
05:03.09gonkulatorno
05:03.12KeyserSozepc133?
05:03.30gonkulatorthe new one has a bus speed of 100 mHz as opposed to the new one which runs at 100 mHz
05:03.43gonkulatorerm... old one at 66.7 mHz
05:04.25gonkulatoranyway, it is time for me to switch out the memory and airport card to the new one
05:04.55scanlinewhy did you get a new airport card?
05:05.04KeyserSozes/did/didn't?
05:05.13gonkulatorscanline: not enough money
05:05.23gonkulatorscanline: I will probably get it for christmas
05:05.26scanlineOh.. I thought you _did_ get a new airport card, and wondered why
05:05.30scanlinewhy do you want a new airport card?
05:05.51gonkulatorso that my mom can use the old iBook wirelessly at home
05:05.54scanlineah
05:06.03KeyserSozegonkulator: do they take sodimms?
05:06.19KeyserSozeor apple(tm) memory?
05:06.21gonkulatorKeyserSoze: I dunno... check out www.macsales.com to see what it takes
05:07.09KeyserSozeyup, low profile sodimms.
05:08.05gonkulatoranyway, hardware muxing time
05:20.27flexomy x86 emulator just executed its first instruction :o)
05:21.14scanline:)
05:28.01hikkemorning..
05:29.35merlin262flexo: writing an emulator?
05:30.54flexomerlin262: yea
05:31.07merlin262what a perverse idea.
05:31.13merlin262sick!
05:31.18flexo:p
05:31.38merlin262an intel elf -> ppc elf converter might be kewl tho
05:33.04captain_protonhooray for lilypond
05:33.24scanlinetypesetting some music?
05:34.32captain_protonyeah
05:38.50scanlineno nvidia crashes yet! or any crashes for that matter
05:42.36hikkepudding? yak
05:43.33scanlinellama
05:48.05captain_protoni'm gonna do it
05:48.58merlin262scanline: what's new?
05:49.05scanlineoh, nothing...
05:49.46merlin262uh oh, /me has a bad feeling.....
05:49.49merlin262spidey sense!@
05:50.27scanline<PROTECTED>
05:51.06scanlinewhich, now that I've refactored the OpenGL code, only takes about 9 lines to implement
05:51.15merlin262kewl!
05:51.20merlin262zzzzzzz
05:51.25scanline'night
05:53.29captain_protonhmmm
05:53.33captain_protonhow much coffee is required....
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06:04.42gonkulatorw00t
06:04.50gonkulatorI am "transitioned" to my new iBook
06:06.07gonkulatorhmm..
06:07.03scanlinenot too long..
06:07.13scanline<captain_proton> hmmm
06:07.13scanline<captain_proton> how much coffee is required....
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06:07.19scanlineoops, that didn't copy the timestamps
06:07.31gonkulatoroh, ok
06:07.49gonkulatorI need to write "plasma" on my iBook now
06:09.32captain_protonit is done
06:09.38captain_protonset*
06:11.28scanlinebleh.. debugging gcc3 code with -O2 is even weirder than 2.95
06:12.22flexooh
06:12.24flexocoffee
06:12.27flexothx captain_proton
06:12.43flexoi would've forgotten it and buyed it at the cafeteria
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14:09.22DevGirl[out]"THEY TOOK MY FIRST CROTCH! THEY SHANT TAKE MY SECOND!"
14:09.37scanlineDevGirl[out]!
14:09.40scanlinehow's it going?
14:09.42DevGirl[out]woot!
14:09.42scanlineIs Vitoria born?
14:09.43DevGirl[out]:)
14:09.46DevGirl[out]no :P
14:09.49scanlineoh
14:10.02scanlinesoon? :)
14:10.04DevGirl[out]she pusshes, but there's no way to go out
14:10.13DevGirl[out]it's closed :P
14:10.43DevGirl[out]I can't wait anymore
14:10.55DevGirl[out]and she is pushing really hard
14:11.00DevGirl[out]it hurts
14:11.19scanline:(
14:12.10DevGirl[out]not *that* much, but it's really unconfortable
14:12.21DevGirl[out]that's why i want her out :)
14:12.30scanlinehehe
14:12.51DevGirl[out]if she wants and i want, what's the passage waiting :D
14:12.53DevGirl[out]???
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14:52.06merlin262If you're giving birth, and talking about it on IRC, you MIGHT be a junkie.
14:54.02merlin262hey scanline
14:54.07scanlinehi merlin262
14:54.56fraggletheh
14:57.09DevGirl[out]yawn
14:57.26Xentachey DevGirl[out]
14:57.46merlin262hey DevGirl[out], how goes it.
14:57.50scanlinemerlin262: I have a deadline for this
14:57.59merlin262scanline: doh!
14:58.02DevGirl[out]bah
14:58.14scanlinemerlin262: captain_proton and I want to present it at the gamedev meeting tomorrow
14:58.30merlin262first birth over irc???? hehehehhee
14:58.33merlin262scanline: kewl!
14:58.41DevGirl[out]hey, Xentac
14:58.55scanlinemerlin262: it's fun building HUDs with XWT :)
14:59.12merlin262hehe
14:59.18DevGirl[out]merlin262: we've already did that joke :D
14:59.23merlin262damn!
14:59.52scanlineThere's a thread written in C++ that provides a scriptable 3D engine plus an embedded instance of pgserver... then there's a python thread that works the UI via cli_python and can interact with the scripable objects in the 3D engine
15:01.15merlin262kewl.
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15:02.07DevGirl[out]you know... Monday's Pizza Meeting
15:02.08DevGirl[out]:D
15:03.35DevGirl[out]"If nobody here answers your question, try the pgui-devel mailing list"... you know... even PicoGui's junkie developers sleeps sometimes :D
15:03.56scanlinehehe
15:04.01DevGirl[out]:D
15:04.06merlin262sleep is for wheenies.
15:04.18DevGirl[out]lalo said that :D
15:04.26merlin262blehhhhhhhhh
15:04.43DevGirl[out]some of mine friends almost spanked him when he said :D
15:04.56scanlinehehe
15:06.09DevGirl[out]"It's ALWAYS the customer's fault." Woot!!! finnaly a piece of wisdom on this channel!!! :D
15:06.34scanline:)
15:06.42DevGirl[out]:)
15:09.04merlin262hmmmmmm.......
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15:37.41scanlinemmm.. 600 frames per second
15:37.52Xentachehehe... vancouver is -6...
15:38.12Xentacbut tody's supposed to be sunny... so... hopefully the fog burns off
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15:42.18scanlinehi lalo
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15:42.37lalohi scanline
15:42.42lalohow are things? :-)
15:43.06scanlinenot bad.. experimenting with some Python things actually :)
15:43.22laloalways fun.
15:44.24scanlinetrying to make a class that's both a c++ class and a python class
15:44.40scanlinefound some documentation on the subject
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15:48.33lalooh
15:48.42laloit is doable, but somewhat involved ;-)
15:48.48laloyou might want to try out Boost
15:50.02scanlinehrm
15:50.29scanlinewell, I don't need anything too complicated- probably just getattr and setattr. I found this: http://www.python.org/doc/PyCPP.html
15:51.42scanlinetricky part is that I'll have C++ code in one thread and python code in another thread
16:25.13captain_protonwow scanline did you sleep at all?
16:25.17scanlinenyet
16:26.44captain_protonhmm
16:26.51captain_proton<PROTECTED>
16:27.04scanlinecvs up, I fixed that :)
16:27.34scanlinehere, I'll commit what I have
16:27.42DevGirlcaptain_proton: as merlin262 and lalo says: sleep is for weenies
16:27.58scanlinecaptain_proton: committed
16:29.23scanlinecaptain_proton: there's no communication between the 3D objects and the python code yet, but there's a very simple HUD created with a widget template
16:30.18scanlineas soon as I get the PythonThread and ScriptableObject classes working correctly I should just be able to put the landscape and ship in subclasses of ScriptableObject, write an input filter in python, and be able to control the objects
16:31.36scanlinecaptain_proton: I wrote my own little texture loader you might find amusing :)
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17:42.23aelfgarhey
17:42.30scanlinehi
17:43.49aelfgari have a ?
17:44.21aelfgarwhenever i try to run picogui as a regular user (not root) it tells me that bind failed and that there is already a picogui server running
17:44.23aelfgarwhat should I do
17:45.07scanlineusually that means either you have something already running on that port (another pgserver) or you have  a client that was connected to a pgserver on that port that hasn't died
17:46.24aelfgarwell i JUST rebooted and just started up x, and it tells me that
17:46.31aelfgarbut if i su myself it lets me run it
17:46.42scanlinetry using something like lsof or fuser to see if anything's using port 30450
17:47.30aelfgarok
17:47.47aelfgarim not on that machine right now, but ill check it out as soon as i get the chance
17:48.17aelfgaru seem to know about picogui, do u think itll be something that will compete with KDE or GNOME?
17:48.38scanlineI wrote most of picogui, so I do know a little about it :)
17:49.01aelfgarheheheh
17:49.03scanlinecomparing picogui to KDE or GNOME is like comparing a toaster to a piece of sliced tomato juice
17:49.05captain_protonscanline: thats a dirty dirty lie
17:49.21captain_proton:)
17:49.24scanlinehehe
17:49.42aelfgarsee i was playing around with it, and i hate the fact that with X i have to run X+window manger+desktop enviroment
17:50.08scanlinewell, that's no reason to leave X
17:50.25aelfgarso are u guys focusing on PDAs
17:50.26scanlineThere are good reasons to dislike X, but most people have the wrong reasons
17:50.56scanlineWell, there is a big focus on PDAs, but there are also lesser foci on desktops and games
17:50.59njsscanline: and then they assume that anyone who wants to replace X shares those reasons :-)
17:51.13scanlinenjs: exactly.. drives me nuts :)
17:51.43captain_protonaelfgar: if you really want to consolidate, just run X+enlightenment <evil grin>
17:52.40aelfgarcaptain_proton: see thats fine for me, but my mom sometimes needs to use my computer and enlightenment is too much for her ( i tried doing that) she needs something like kde, and its soo slow and clunky
17:54.02captain_protonslow and clunky is a failing of KDE, not of X
17:54.32aelfgarim not pinning that on x
17:59.47aelfgaris fresco more desktop oriented?
18:00.17scanlinebasically, yes
18:00.34vegaicaptain_proton: is it? perhaps the failings of X caused KDE to be clunky
18:01.12scanlinepicogui's designed to run on a wide variety of devices. fresco's design is more device independent than picogui, but it too slow to run on embedded hardware and doesn't have drivers for a lot of the weird things picogui supports
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18:01.48scanlinePersonally I have a different opinion on device independence than the Fresco people though...
18:03.08aelfgaryeah but from the fresco site i get the idea that they are trying to compete with X, picogui doesnt want that?
18:03.44scanlinepicogui isn't a replacement for X, it's an alternative... it wasn't designed to compete with X. It may end up doing that at some stage, but that's not the main reason picogui exists
18:12.27Sophiewakey wakey
18:13.22SophieI like KDE, it doesn't behave "clunky" on my machine
18:13.58SophieI have a 1.33ghz athelon w/256 pc133 ram.
18:14.28vegaiwell, that's practically a supercomputer
18:14.40Sophienah. parts are cheap.
18:15.05Sophie:)
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18:37.38carpmanblehhhhhhhh
18:37.49carpmanAoFBot: version
18:37.49AoFBotAoF 2.9-RC1 (Euclid)
18:37.58carpmanahh... 3 days uptime on AoFBot
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19:44.24file[laptop]I got my Paypal Mastercard
19:48.23file[laptop]and it's now activated
19:48.45scanlinemmm... cli_python code controlling OpenGL objects written in c++
19:50.00DeKayIs cvs reasonably stable or am I better off playing with the 0.43 tar file???
19:51.04scanlinecvs is about as stable as the releases are usually
19:51.15DeKaythx
19:59.53carpmanhey scanline
20:00.14scanlinemmm.. this ScriptableObject class is cool
20:00.45scanlineuse it as the base class for a C++ object, and you can refer to the object and its attributes from C or from python and in multiple threads
20:01.55carpmancool. I'll have to look into that for AoF.
20:02.10scanlinepicogui/apps/libpgtest/jetengine
20:06.08file[laptop]I can now sell on EBay, and I get 1.5% cashback
20:17.44takk|goneI'm using irssi
20:24.43captain_protonscanline: PicoGUI.responses.HandleError: The handle you seek has been found, but it is not what you are looking for. Invalid handle type. (?)
20:25.11scanlinecaptain_proton: update your cli_python, there were some incorrect constant values in it
20:26.25scanlinealso, I just committed some code demonstrating input filters and encapsulating the ship in a ScriptableObject
20:26.25captain_protonwheee
20:26.32scanlinenow you can make the ship spin around with the mouse :)
20:27.08captain_protonhow does it spin around with the mouse?
20:27.25scanline<PROTECTED>
20:27.26scanline<PROTECTED>
20:27.31scanline:)
20:27.38captain_protoni'm not seeing any spinning
20:27.45scanlineupdate your CVS, I just committed it
20:27.45carpmanthats too damn simple, scanline
20:28.10scanlinecarpman: the "ship" object is written in C++, and the python code is using an input filter to get mouse events :)
20:28.18captain_protonscanline: i'm on the latest
20:28.42scanlinecaptain_proton: you sure? update your jetengine directory, I committed it maybe 15 seconds ago
20:29.06captain_protonscanline: yes, i'm sure
20:29.08scanlineoh wait
20:29.14scanlineI had to fix a bug in pgserver
20:29.25captain_protonaha
20:31.09captain_protonscanline: whoa, scriptableobject = thexy
20:31.14scanline:)
20:31.44scanlinethere are some bugs in it still... you might notice that I'm setting 'altitude' to 12.0f, but in the following printf it comes out as 0
20:32.54carpmanArgh! Quit tempting me! I have to go finish my comp org homework before I go looking at ScriptibleObject :)
20:34.31scanlinehehehe
20:34.54scanlineand gee, the ScriptableObject class is only 120 lines of code...
20:35.17scanlinethanks to the super spiffy powers of Python
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20:38.16file[laptop]hi dacut
20:38.34captain_protonscanline: this looks to be the case, but sets are atomic between threads?
20:39.04scanlinecaptain_proton: yeah, they're all wrapped with a mutex. I'm pretty sure I just messed up a reference count or something... I'm still new at this embedded-python stuff :)
20:39.12scanlinerunning it through valgrind now
20:39.34file[laptop]and valgrind will say... "you need more coffee before coding more"
20:39.43takk|goneheh
20:39.43scanlineand it would be right
20:39.53captain_protonhmm...coffee...thats a good idea
20:40.11scanlineheh, yep... getting a bunch of reads from uninitialized memory in PyFloat_AsDouble
20:45.41SophieI just talked to a user for a half an hour who couldn't navigate outlook express :(
20:46.15takk|goneouch.
20:46.22file[laptop]oh my
20:54.47scanlineah... turns out python has to have some special treatment to do multithreading
20:57.11file[laptop]scanline: there's a song by Shania Twain that strangely reminds me of searching for bugs in source code
20:57.57file[laptop]scanline: go download it
20:58.00takk|gonewhich one?
20:58.02file[laptop]it's called Gonna Getcha
20:58.33file[laptop]"I'm gonna getcha when I got you in sight, I'm gonna getcha if it takes all night"
20:58.38takk|goneheh
20:59.01file[laptop]some parts... it's scary
20:59.44captain_protonyay, no more dependencies on the pg source tree :)
20:59.54scanlineeh?
21:00.26file[laptop]takk|gone: ...be sure to get the country version
21:00.31captain_protonyou have a lot of paths relative to the location of the libpgtest/jetengine directory
21:00.43scanlineah, right.. all marked FIXME :)
21:00.51scanlinecaptain_proton: you want read/write access to the picogui CVS?
21:01.17captain_protonscanline: not really - i'm working parallel - getting LGE to be python-friendly
21:01.26scanlineok
21:01.48scanlineI'm only planning on developing "jetengine" to the point that it can move the ship around and has a decent theme
21:02.04scanlinethen we'll harvest it for objects to use in LGE
21:02.07captain_protonthen we'll be able to do things like change the video resolution from the UI written in python :)
21:02.15scanlineyay :)
21:03.18file[laptop]takk|gone: bah
21:03.37takk|gonehm, I'm not here
21:03.42captain_protonscanline: can you add a list type to ScriptableObject?
21:04.00scanlinecaptain_proton: sure
21:04.08scanlinecaptain_proton: as soon as I get these thread issues fixed
21:04.35file[laptop]takkaria: bleh
21:04.41scanlineit's a python dictionary, so it will hold pretty much anything.. tuples, lists, hashes, objects, methods, types...
21:04.53takkariafile[laptop]: can you stop making offputting noises, please?
21:04.57captain_protoncan i make a subdictionary easily?
21:05.05scanlineyep
21:05.28captain_protonwill setAttr("background.red", 0.0f); suffice?
21:05.39scanlineno
21:06.07scanlineI'd recommend making the color a tuple
21:06.14scanlinethen in python, you could do:
21:06.23scanline<PROTECTED>
21:06.24scanlineor something
21:06.46scanlineit's actually pretty easy to work with the PyObject type
21:08.17scanlinehttp://python.org/doc/current/api/concrete.html
21:08.53scanlinedoh
21:11.36captain_protonits all the threads fault
21:11.54scanlineI was passing the address of something I should have been passing the value of...
21:12.22scanlinethough now I know that python is capable of full multithreading, but for this application a simple mutex around the ScriptableObject's dictionary should be fine
21:12.37captain_protonrighto
21:17.50scanlinehehe.. if I stretch out the ground texture more when you're going faster, it simulates motion blur
21:20.02captain_protonooh :)
21:21.01DeKaycaptain_proton: Mind if I ask what LGE is?
21:21.36captain_protonDeKay: its a group of libraries a guy and i wrote that handle stuff for games
21:22.15DeKaycaptain_proton: Thx
21:25.56captain_protonscanline: what 'section' are the width & height params for the viewport in EmbeddedPGserver ?
21:26.33scanline"pgserver"
21:26.51scanlinedocumented in README.configfile :)
21:27.43captain_protonyaay
21:27.50captain_proton*** PicoGUI Oops!
21:28.49scanlinebacktrace?
21:28.58captain_protonnono its my fault
21:29.02scanlineah
21:29.04captain_protontrying to build mipmaps on textures without a context
21:29.12scanlinehehe
21:29.13captain_protonnow why isn't there a context...
21:32.05scanlinehehe, this really makes you feel like you're moving faster
21:37.16captain_protonscanline: mind if i expose the parameter functions in EmbeddedPGserver?
21:38.18scanlinego ahead, just be warned that most of the params you'd be interested in are only checked in pgserver_init, so you'd need to call them before that.. therefore move pgserver_init out of the constructor
21:39.13scanlineyou might just want to call video_setmode after pgserver_init
21:39.26scanlineg_error video_setmode(u16 xres,u16 yres,u16 bpp,u16 flagmode,u32 flags);
21:39.29scanlinein pgserver/video.h
21:39.53scanlinebpp == 0 for default, flagmode and flags should be PG_FM_ON and 0 respectively
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21:44.30file[laptop]hi Sophie
21:44.38captain_protonwhee, say hello to texture filtering artifacts
21:45.12file[laptop]captain_proton: can I say "hi" instead?
21:45.48takkariaheh.
21:46.07captain_protonfile[laptop]: no
21:46.11file[laptop]captain_proton: ok
21:46.14file[laptop]your loss
21:50.34scanlinecaptain_proton: cvs up jetengine, I ScriptableObjectized the camera :)
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21:51.35file[laptop]always a theme
21:51.59captain_protonscanline: scary
21:53.31captain_protonscanline: jen is going around squirting
21:53.37scanlineha
21:58.18captain_protonscanline: augh, they're forcing me to watch red dwarf!
21:58.33file[laptop]Red Dwarf is good
21:58.38scanlinehehe
22:00.15DeKayYou'll be praying for death within a half hour
22:00.44file[laptop]:)
22:01.05captain_protonso i'm gonna do homework
22:02.11captain_protonscanline: you're free to join us if you want
22:02.19scanlinein homework?
22:02.30captain_protonin red dwarf
22:02.34scanline:)
22:28.44filebye lalo
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22:35.13carpman{tallest}GLITCH IS A DOPE!
22:35.18carpman{tallest}AoFBot: glitch is a dope
22:35.19AoFBotOk, carpman{tallest}.
22:36.03filewhat happened?
22:36.45carpman{tallest}he rebooted a machine I was working on
22:46.56*** join/#picogui Cambo (mmmeeee@cm216036165101.westman.wave.ca)
22:49.32*** join/#picogui gonkulator (~AthIRC@Metro0276.client.mscd.edu)
22:49.42gonkulatorPicoBot: seen scanline
22:49.42PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 46 minutes and 56 seconds ago, saying: fills up his coffee mug and wanders toward captain_proton's room [Mon Nov 25 15:06:44 2002]
22:49.45gonkulatorPicoBot: seen carpman{tallest}
22:49.45PicoBotcarpman{tallest} was last seen on #picogui 13 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: he rebooted a machine I was working on [Mon Nov 25 15:40:44 2002]
22:52.59lalo[out]is menuconfig broken, or is it my setup?
23:06.11captain_protonMaking an assumption is something completely different than assuming something. Assumptions are conclusions, and assuming is a pre-conclusion.  I don't think you can say that something is an assumption when you've assumed it.
23:08.06merlin262its good to be home
23:08.10gonkulatorhi merlin262
23:09.39merlin262hi gonkulator
23:10.22merlin262carpman{tallest}: you skipped today!
23:14.09captain_protonscanline: that camera motion scares me
23:14.37scanlineisn't it funky?
23:16.31gonkulatorPicoBot: seen darth_balls
23:16.31PicoBotdarth_balls was last seen on #picogui 3 days, 4 hours, 11 minutes and 53 seconds ago, saying: c you all later this week! ^_^ [Fri Nov 22 12:08:37 2002]
23:16.38gonkulatorPicoBot: seen darth_iBook
23:16.39PicoBotdarth_iBook was last seen on #picogui 1 days, 16 hours, 21 minutes and 39 seconds ago, saying: it's sleepy time [Sat Nov 23 23:58:58 2002]
23:18.07gonkulatorcaptain_proton: rap?
23:18.38captain_protongonkulator: shostakovich string quartets
23:18.46gonkulatoroh, ok
23:18.51gonkulatorthats not rap
23:21.39merlin262damn!
23:21.48gonkulatorlol
23:22.25scanlineI love OpenGL
23:22.28merlin262PicoBot: pgserver
23:22.32PicoBotpgserver is the server side of PicoGUI's client-server architecture, the most important part of picogui or scanline's addiction^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hproject
23:22.46gonkulatorhehehehe
23:22.53gonkulatorscanline: I saw Kate last night
23:23.05gonkulatorI also saw ben
23:23.13scanlinecool
23:23.14gonkulatorscanline: ben and I played pool
23:23.23*** join/#picogui eks (~eks@h24-82-197-140.wp.shawcable.net)
23:23.24gonkulatorand I didn't keep the balls on the table ;)
23:23.38merlin262PicoBot: picogui
23:23.39PicoBotpicogui is at http://picogui.org or a new GUI architecture created for embeddeed systems or the niftiest hack in the world
23:24.13filehi eks
23:24.18ekshello file :)
23:24.24fileeks: I'm happy
23:24.36ekshow so?
23:24.47fileeks: my Paypal debit card arrived today
23:24.57eksahah, cool
23:24.57merlin262scanline: my "big picture" dictionary, http://www.textux.com/hackdict/
23:24.59merlin262hi eks
23:25.02fileeks: very
23:25.04ekshello merlin262 :)
23:25.09fileit's got my name engraved in it and everything!
23:25.23scanlinemerlin262: not very big yet
23:25.29eksfile: lol, at least you can now claim it's not a stolen one ;)
23:25.32merlin262scanline: i know......
23:25.37fileeks: darn right
23:25.56merlin262PicoBot: nxpackage
23:25.58PicoBoti heard nxpackage was your addiction^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hproject
23:25.58eksscanline: you have to stop making my developers drooling, they all want to run picogui now :P
23:26.03fileeks: it's a Premier BusinessCard ;)
23:26.08scanlineeks: haha
23:26.20merlin262eks: get them to help with Amarach. :D
23:26.27filehaha
23:26.37eksPicoBot: Amarach?
23:26.37PicoBotthat's the distro that carpman, merlin262, and maybe some others are working on.
23:26.48eksic :)
23:27.02merlin262PicoBot: amarach is also a picogui based linux.
23:27.03PicoBotokay, merlin262.
23:27.07merlin262good PicoBot
23:29.50filemmm
23:29.58fileI need to clean my monitor again
23:30.12*** join/#picogui carpman_ (~carpman@lanfear.hardscrabble.com)
23:30.16carpman_AoFBot: version
23:30.32merlin262hey carpman_
23:30.36carpman_hey merlin262
23:30.42merlin262you skipped comp org.
23:30.43merlin262lol
23:30.55AoFBotAoF 2.9-RC1 (Euclid)
23:30.55filemerlin262: did he really miss anything?
23:30.56carpman_yeah, my mom need the car. Doctors appt.
23:31.10merlin262ewwwwwww.... he just went over the test...
23:31.23merlin262carpman_: next Monday is the last test, class is cancelled on Wed.
23:31.47carpman_merlin262: c00l
23:31.52merlin262hrmmm..... I need more words for my dictionary.....
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23:32.07scanlinecaptain_proton: http://picogui.org/download/jetengine_test2.png
23:32.07captain_proton"muffin"
23:32.10filemerlin262: myriad
23:32.24captain_protonscanline: ooooooo
23:32.27carpman_scanline: oh my word
23:32.36scanlinecaptain_proton: I got it to antialias only the lines :)
23:33.05njsscanline: that's pretty cool.
23:33.05scanlinecaptain_proton: I'm going to try some caustics blended with the background of the panels
23:33.49merlin262carpman_: does AoFBot really use AoF?
23:33.57carpman_merlin262: yes.
23:34.13merlin262AoFBot: hello
23:34.15AoFBotI don't know about thatmerlin262.
23:34.18carpman_> new AoFBot root TestBot
23:34.18carpman_> addThread TestBotThread TestBot botThread
23:34.18carpman_> startThread TestBotThread
23:34.35merlin262kewl carpman_
23:34.45merlin262mwahhahahahahahahhahaaha
23:35.04scanlineoh yeah
23:35.16carpman_merlin262: when is the last hw due?
23:35.28scanlinecaptain_proton: I already have a neat python command line component I wrote for Widget Foundry we could reuse... an in-game python command line would be a useful debug tool
23:35.37merlin262carpman_: I'm not sure, the sort homework is due today.
23:35.48carpman_merlin262: yeah, almost done with it
23:35.52merlin262carpman_: probably next week
23:35.59merlin262carpman_: I cheated on it.... hehehehehhehehehe
23:36.04carpman_k, I'll probably do it while on my thanksgiving break.
23:36.20captain_protonscanline: we could make the 'console' a python cmdline
23:36.21merlin262(well, not literally, but the TA will shoot me.)
23:36.36scanlinecaptain_proton: press ~ to open it? :)
23:36.41captain_protonyep
23:36.51captain_proton"ruin your PC with an aqua dock"
23:37.06merlin262oh crap, i've started something....
23:37.25njswhat is AoF?
23:37.33gonkulatornjs: don't ask ;)
23:37.40filemerlin262: all blame will go towards you now
23:38.03merlin262PicoBot: AoF
23:38.03PicoBotAoF is a super-dynamic object tree with many properties of a distributed database. It is written in python and maintained by carpman.
23:38.38merlin262PicoBot: AoF is also a foundation for Amarach.
23:38.38PicoBotokay, merlin262.
23:38.54merlin262PicoBot: good PicoBot
23:38.54PicoBotmerlin262: sorry...
23:38.54merlin262PicoBot: good boy
23:38.54PicoBot:)
23:38.54njsah
23:39.00captain_protonscanline: you should commit that theme mess :)
23:39.06scanlinealrighty
23:39.25scanlinecommitted
23:39.33carpman_gonkulator: I'm not THAT bad about answering that :)
23:40.25scanlinemethinks I need to add an array dereference opcode to the theme language
23:40.25merlin262Are there any shells besides tcsh and bash?
23:40.57gonkulatorcarpman_: I know :)
23:40.57scanlinemerlin262: zsh, ash
23:40.57merlin262Something w/ sane language formatting, ala python ...
23:40.58gonkulatorcarpman_: just giving a hard time
23:40.58gonkulatorAoFBot: Ahem!
23:40.58scanlinemerlin262: pysh!
23:41.40merlin262scanline: YES
23:41.52merlin262just what I was looking for
23:42.13njsmerlin262: scsh!
23:42.34njscarpman_: so AoFBot is in python?  is the source available anywhere?
23:42.55captain_protonscanline: not really
23:42.59scanlinedamn
23:43.15scanlineyou're becoming immune
23:45.25filescanline: shall I get the disturbing multiplexer amplifier?
23:46.12scanlinenah, already tried that
23:46.44filemmm the flux capacitor!
23:46.44filemaybe it's out of allignment
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23:49.56filehello eyeball
23:49.56eyeballhowdy
23:49.57carpman_well, off home. bbiab
23:49.57filewell it seems the Slashdot craze hasn't dyed down much
23:49.57merlin262file: i dunno....
23:49.57captain_protonhaha scanline
23:49.57merlin262at least there are extreem n00bs in here anymore
23:49.57captain_protonrun jetengine then run widget foundry
23:49.57filemerlin262: I suppose
23:49.58filemerlin262: but the ones remaining are invading
23:49.58merlin262file: damn!
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23:50.00scanlinecaptain_proton: funky
23:50.01captain_protonscanline: what was the cmdline argument for managed rootless mode?
23:50.01scanlinecaptain_proton: --appmgr=managed_rootless, though it won't work with the opengl drivers
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23:52.54merlin262wb exo
23:54.49merlin262er eks
23:55.16scanlinehehehe... I messed up the texture coordinates a bit
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23:59.43captain_protonhmm i have a frozen lasagna

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