| 00:01.03 | captain_proton | geeeez |
| 00:01.14 | captain_proton | the professors want to take over part of the EEMR |
| 00:01.25 | captain_proton | which would involve changing the network a good deal |
| 00:01.43 | captain_proton | and a new switch for the DS20s is going to cost 10k |
| 00:02.14 | gonkulator | well, it is time for me to go home |
| 00:06.31 | *** join/#picogui ahnkana (~Gnu@aden2-135-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 00:07.40 | ahnkana | hello all |
| 00:08.02 | ahnkana | lol |
| 00:08.08 | all | why, hello there! |
| 00:08.20 | ahnkana | :-) |
| 00:08.49 | *** join/#picogui all (~micah@aden2-83-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU) |
| 00:09.05 | ahnkana | ok it's a dead joke |
| 00:09.16 | all | yes, but I registered this nick now :) |
| 00:09.23 | ahnkana | umm...congrads |
| 00:09.39 | ahnkana | hahaha |
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| 00:11.15 | captain_proton | haha |
| 00:11.41 | ahnkana | did you just register my cool name? |
| 00:11.42 | ahnkana | boo |
| 00:12.49 | ahnkana | oy |
| 00:13.00 | darth_iBook | hehe |
| 00:13.30 | captain_proton | whats that |
| 00:14.00 | ahnkana | i don't know i don't have one....but they sell it in boxes |
| 00:14.10 | scanline | crunchy |
| 00:14.56 | darth_iBook | Mmmmm... /me likes the cinammon one |
| 00:15.54 | darth_iBook | so I acn be happy, the rest of my life, with a cinammon gilr |
| 00:15.57 | darth_iBook | arg! |
| 00:16.51 | scanline | ahnkana: oh, I forgot to show you my new use for some of that string you left up here :) |
| 00:17.51 | captain_proton | wow...tasteful...http://www.pee-mail.com/ |
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| 00:19.02 | darth_iBook | captain_proton: that's horrible |
| 00:19.06 | darth_iBook | yet, somewhat funny |
| 00:19.25 | darth_iBook | how did you come across that |
| 00:19.50 | captain_proton | online friend told me |
| 00:20.26 | ElTopo | hi, I am trying to use "linux framebuffer" to run picogui, which input driver for keyboard should I pick? |
| 00:20.36 | scanline | ElTopo: usually 'rawttykb' |
| 00:20.47 | ElTopo | Thanks, let me try |
| 00:21.13 | ahnkana | scanline: my needle? |
| 00:21.15 | ahnkana | i need that |
| 00:21.28 | scanline | come get it :) |
| 00:21.30 | ahnkana | k |
| 00:21.52 | captain_proton | DO HOMEWORK FASTER! |
| 00:23.55 | merlin262 | w00t homewokr! |
| 00:24.27 | merlin262 | interesting new development: the p33ps at my job want an "interactive math graphing teaching aid." |
| 00:24.35 | merlin262 | which means I'll get paid to do some OpenSource dev. |
| 00:24.36 | merlin262 | =D |
| 00:24.52 | darth_iBook | rawr |
| 00:27.02 | merlin262 | I think I might just wrap a nice UI around gnuplot |
| 00:27.17 | merlin262 | haha |
| 00:27.34 | merlin262 | actually, it kindof is |
| 00:27.35 | merlin262 | roflol |
| 00:27.51 | merlin262 | they want a program to taech graphing equations interactively |
| 00:28.07 | KeyserSoze | why? |
| 00:28.20 | merlin262 | Lol, |
| 00:28.34 | merlin262 | they == need aids like that |
| 00:28.37 | merlin262 | *shrugs* |
| 00:29.39 | ElTopo | Thanks, captain, it's working! |
| 00:30.00 | merlin262 | it may be released publically under a license of my choosing |
| 00:30.04 | merlin262 | should I use BSD? |
| 00:30.06 | merlin262 | GPL? |
| 00:30.12 | KeyserSoze | MPL? |
| 00:30.18 | merlin262 | blehhhhhhh |
| 00:30.20 | captain_proton | MSEULA |
| 00:30.29 | merlin262 | double blehhhhhhhh |
| 00:30.30 | KeyserSoze | Merlin Public License. |
| 00:30.39 | merlin262 | ahhhh |
| 00:30.40 | merlin262 | haha |
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| 00:37.35 | KeyserSoze | ibot: seen Xentac? |
| 00:37.36 | | xentac is currently on #picogui (10h 38m 38s). Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 8h 31m 17s |
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| 00:49.23 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: you rang? |
| 00:49.47 | Xentac | scanline: lucky you |
| 00:50.02 | file[bed] | I've got 2 periods off tomorrow... which is nice |
| 00:50.10 | file[bed] | but I've got basketball first period which bites |
| 00:50.43 | Xentac | something wrong with sports? |
| 00:51.41 | file[bed] | Xentac: too early |
| 00:51.53 | Xentac | ah, acceptable |
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| 00:58.29 | Xentac | gonk{work}: you there? |
| 00:59.09 | file[bed] | he is, if you believe he is |
| 00:59.30 | Xentac | ah, it wasn't all that shaken |
| 01:00.34 | Xentac | http://www.ucomics.com/foxtrot/ <--- bwahahaha |
| 01:01.03 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:01.49 | Xentac | now... why is it that a girl who lives on the other side of the country thinks it's cute that you called her just to tell her you're online? (when she was looking to talk to you earlier anyway) |
| 01:02.29 | file[bed] | who? what? when? |
| 01:02.47 | Xentac | I thought it was pretty self-explanitory... |
| 01:02.56 | file[bed] | WHO WHAT WHEN |
| 01:03.04 | file[bed] | er I mean... yeah it was |
| 01:03.06 | Xentac | Heather, I called her, just now |
| 01:03.31 | file[bed] | uh huh |
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| 01:41.08 | DLCGoToGuy | =) |
| 01:42.16 | scanline | http://phd.stanford.edu/archive/phd101199s.gif |
| 01:43.25 | Xentac | scanline: you like phd, eh? |
| 01:43.34 | scanline | Xentac: bastard, you got me reading another comic! |
| 01:44.01 | Xentac | mwahahaha |
| 01:44.08 | Xentac | I have lots more, if you want to look at them all ;o) |
| 01:44.13 | scanline | nooooooooooooooo |
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| 01:45.51 | Xentac | hey kidder |
| 01:46.24 | kidder | hello |
| 01:46.37 | file | eh don't kid yourself |
| 01:46.44 | file | oh hi kidder |
| 01:47.03 | kidder | haha ha |
| 01:47.27 | kidder | how was everybody's day? |
| 01:48.05 | Xentac | dinner time |
| 01:48.08 | Xentac | kidder: wet |
| 01:48.20 | kidder | yes yes |
| 01:54.49 | KeyserSoze | howdy Xentac. |
| 01:55.13 | KeyserSoze | you said yesterday that you thought you knew a reason for signed characters, but by the time I saw that you said it, you had left |
| 02:05.10 | KeyserSoze | what's a DLC? |
| 02:06.01 | captain_proton | something fun |
| 02:06.17 | KeyserSoze | that's not a very good answer |
| 02:06.25 | KeyserSoze | that's like one of those jeopardy answers |
| 02:07.11 | KeyserSoze | like: "What is Chicago?", and someone will say "It's the place where Mrs O'Leary's cow tipped over a lantern and burned half the city to the ground in 1918" |
| 02:09.06 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: yeah... it'd probably be a legacy thing... originally telnet traffic and things like that were only 7 bits |
| 02:09.44 | KeyserSoze | so, it's easy to check if something is a 'new' character, by seeing if it less than 0? |
| 02:09.58 | Xentac | that creates the regular ascii set... then once they started using the 8th bit they extended ascii into the extended ascii set |
| 02:10.12 | Xentac | no... |
| 02:10.22 | Xentac | they were translated to 8 bits on the other machine (because of architecture) |
| 02:10.39 | Xentac | it's just that the most significant bit was actually a parity bit (IIRC) |
| 02:10.47 | Xentac | so always came out as 0 in the transition |
| 02:10.57 | KeyserSoze | why would you need to treat a character like a signed integer? |
| 02:11.13 | Xentac | well, now? |
| 02:11.15 | KeyserSoze | do people ever do integer math with characters? |
| 02:11.17 | Xentac | I don't know ;o) |
| 02:11.25 | KeyserSoze | why, ever? |
| 02:11.34 | Xentac | chars are always 8 bits... |
| 02:11.45 | Xentac | embedded systems might need the size... |
| 02:12.03 | KeyserSoze | i don't see how your explanation has anything to do with them being signed or unsigned.... |
| 02:12.27 | Xentac | it was just a theory ;o) |
| 02:12.44 | Xentac | because signed chars are basically 7 bits, plus a sign bit |
| 02:12.48 | KeyserSoze | i'm not saying it's wrong, i'm saying i don't understand it. |
| 02:13.26 | Xentac | signed chars have the range of -2^7 to (2^7)-1 |
| 02:13.44 | Xentac | whereas unsigned use all 8 bits, but are only positive... |
| 02:13.50 | Xentac | (we should all know this...) |
| 02:13.59 | Xentac | in the explaination |
| 02:14.11 | KeyserSoze | is that a continuation of your explanation, a new explanation, or random thoughts? |
| 02:14.30 | Xentac | 7 bits were all they were allowed to have transfering over the wire (I can't remember, maybe it was just serial ttys, etc...) |
| 02:14.33 | Xentac | continuation |
| 02:14.38 | kergoth | doesnt k&r mention the signed vs unsigned char issue? |
| 02:14.45 | kergoth | I seem to recall reading it somewhere |
| 02:14.46 | Xentac | kergoth: hehehe, maybe so ;o) |
| 02:14.48 | KeyserSoze | i hope they would. |
| 02:14.52 | KeyserSoze | :D |
| 02:14.55 | Xentac | I'm just wildly guessing here |
| 02:14.59 | kergoth | k&r is the definitive reference |
| 02:15.01 | Xentac | I also don't have the k&r book.. |
| 02:15.01 | kergoth | but I lost mine |
| 02:15.03 | kergoth | bleh |
| 02:16.08 | Xentac | but he's not always at the computer, so we'll see what his answer is later... |
| 02:18.18 | KeyserSoze | what's the deal with all x86 laptops being hideous? |
| 02:19.00 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: what do you mean? |
| 02:19.12 | KeyserSoze | they are ugly. |
| 02:19.17 | KeyserSoze | like any compaq, or HP. |
| 02:19.20 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 02:19.21 | KeyserSoze | or toshiba |
| 02:19.27 | Xentac | I kinda like how my sony looks |
| 02:19.29 | KeyserSoze | sharp's look okay. |
| 02:19.35 | KeyserSoze | what model? |
| 02:19.35 | Xentac | it was shiny, before a lot of the shiny stuff rubbed off... |
| 02:19.38 | KeyserSoze | i thought you had an ibook? |
| 02:19.39 | Xentac | now it just looks scuffed |
| 02:19.50 | Xentac | do you think I could live with only one mouse button?!? |
| 02:19.51 | KeyserSoze | do you have pics online? |
| 02:19.56 | Xentac | PCG-r505el |
| 02:20.00 | Xentac | I don't... |
| 02:20.11 | Xentac | running linux on it is problematic |
| 02:20.13 | Xentac | but it does work |
| 02:20.35 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 02:21.13 | KeyserSoze | huh. galeon crashed. that doesn't happen often |
| 02:21.25 | Xentac | not recently, no... |
| 02:21.47 | Xentac | though, I find that it does crash (or at least have issues) after running for many a day (like 15+) |
| 02:22.38 | KeyserSoze | more importantly than looks, it's got a built in wireless mouse transciever. |
| 02:22.56 | Xentac | interesting... |
| 02:23.15 | Xentac | the other laptops that have nice looks are the thinkpads |
| 02:23.35 | Xentac | I didn't think the wireless mouse had a standard.. |
| 02:23.56 | KeyserSoze | it probably doesn't. fujitsu sells their own, to go with the laptop, though |
| 02:24.06 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 02:24.09 | Xentac | get a thinkpad |
| 02:24.20 | Xentac | they all have native linux support (really easy to get it installed and going) |
| 02:24.25 | Xentac | and are nice pieces of machine |
| 02:24.33 | Xentac | though, they cost a little more than the others |
| 02:24.45 | Xentac | ummm... ok... |
| 02:24.58 | KeyserSoze | ibm ought to make a laptop with their PPC 750FX |
| 02:25.00 | Xentac | yeah... but most of them come with three mouse buttons! |
| 02:25.32 | KeyserSoze | not only does the ibook not have enough mouse buttons, but no pcmcia slots, either. |
| 02:25.40 | Xentac | true |
| 02:25.58 | Xentac | and most thinkpads don't have those silly touchpads |
| 02:26.04 | Xentac | instead they have nipples! |
| 02:26.10 | KeyserSoze | cool! |
| 02:26.21 | Xentac | the thinkpads are the only ones I've seen that have them anymore |
| 02:26.24 | KeyserSoze | i always thought they were pencil erasers. nipples are better. |
| 02:26.33 | Xentac | all the other laptops have converted to touchpads... |
| 02:26.34 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 02:26.39 | Xentac | definatly nipples |
| 02:26.53 | Xentac | at my first co-op job I used to do tech support |
| 02:26.58 | Xentac | one of my jobs was fixing machines... |
| 02:27.11 | KeyserSoze | this sharp laptop looks okay: http://www.sharpsystems.com/tmplproduct_GP20.asp |
| 02:27.19 | Xentac | and at one point I had two laptops... both with nipples... so I was able to practice my two handed nipple control... |
| 02:27.33 | Xentac | it's even funnier when you call them clits, instead of nipples... |
| 02:27.41 | KeyserSoze | i saw it in person at circuit city. it's so much cleaner looking than the HP's and compaqs they had nearby. |
| 02:27.48 | Xentac | but it also has an intel in it... |
| 02:28.01 | Xentac | that's the only picture they have? |
| 02:28.03 | Xentac | bah |
| 02:28.20 | Xentac | and is that a left handed, or a right handed touchpad? |
| 02:28.39 | KeyserSoze | i didn't know touchpads possesed handedness |
| 02:28.45 | Xentac | strange... my touchpad isn't centered either... |
| 02:28.51 | Xentac | well... the touchpad isn't in the center |
| 02:29.26 | KeyserSoze | sharp laptops all have lousy video chipsets. |
| 02:29.26 | Xentac | is it put there, expecting people to use their right hands (with a longer surface to rest their arm?) or their left hands (seeing as it's closer to the left hand) |
| 02:29.31 | KeyserSoze | no ATI, or nVidia. |
| 02:29.52 | Xentac | my vaio has an i830 |
| 02:30.02 | Xentac | it's not an amazing 3d card... but it's acceptable |
| 02:31.01 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 02:31.14 | Xentac | well, this one plays rtcw (in linux) just dandy |
| 02:31.31 | KeyserSoze | cool. |
| 02:31.37 | Xentac | and counter strike (what's that one called... weaponry... no... I can't remember the mod...) fine |
| 02:31.53 | Xentac | though that was in windows |
| 02:32.10 | Xentac | it's not a top of the fricken line video card, but it's acceptable (I already said that) |
| 02:32.28 | KeyserSoze | i never heard of i830. |
| 02:32.32 | KeyserSoze | who makes it? |
| 02:32.46 | Xentac | it's the newer intel chipset... superceeding the i810 |
| 02:33.19 | KeyserSoze | does it have 3d acceleration? |
| 02:33.24 | Xentac | of course |
| 02:33.51 | Xentac | glx gears gives me about 550 FPS |
| 02:36.44 | KeyserSoze | is that fullscreen, or the default window size? |
| 02:37.20 | Xentac | default window size |
| 02:37.25 | Xentac | want me to fullscreen-ize it? |
| 02:37.27 | KeyserSoze | my GF2 GTS seems to do about 950, at the default size. |
| 02:37.43 | Xentac | I don't know how to... |
| 02:37.52 | KeyserSoze | nah, that's fine. |
| 02:39.46 | Xentac | I hate trying to describe prolog axioms... |
| 02:40.12 | KeyserSoze | describe them to a person, or to prolog? |
| 02:40.20 | Xentac | person |
| 02:40.46 | Xentac | my teacher says, "do these prolog problems... and then, if they're complex, give an acceptable explaination" |
| 02:41.52 | Xentac | here we go... |
| 02:42.13 | Xentac | signed chars for very small integers, support short relative addressing... and for the original ascii set... |
| 02:43.31 | KeyserSoze | is something coming after that last set of ellipses? |
| 02:43.57 | Xentac | more questions? |
| 02:45.09 | KeyserSoze | no, it just kind of sounded like: "and for the original ascii character set, signed char allows XXX" |
| 02:45.19 | KeyserSoze | but i guess that was the end :) |
| 02:45.23 | Xentac | ah |
| 02:45.37 | Xentac | the original ascii character set had only 128 characters |
| 02:47.54 | Xentac | 75 characters? |
| 02:47.56 | Xentac | less? more? |
| 02:48.23 | KeyserSoze | can a printer decide to wrap? i thought the app that sends data to the printer would format it. |
| 02:48.34 | Xentac | good question... |
| 02:48.38 | Xentac | what if the program's lp? |
| 02:48.39 | Xentac | ;) |
| 02:48.58 | Xentac | let's see what happens |
| 02:49.00 | KeyserSoze | rtfm! |
| 02:49.29 | KeyserSoze | (that "!" was a sign of excitement at being able to use "rtfm", not any sort of anger or impatience) |
| 02:50.00 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 02:51.30 | file[bed] | hi all |
| 02:52.15 | Xentac | file[bed]: aren't you in bed? |
| 02:52.29 | file[bed] | yes |
| 02:52.38 | file[bed] | and the sheets are very comfy |
| 02:52.45 | file[bed] | "warm in the winter, cool in the summer" |
| 02:53.09 | Xentac | that's good |
| 02:53.21 | file[bed] | what's up in your neck of Canada? |
| 02:53.23 | KeyserSoze | is that the motto of someone who doesn't pay the heating and cooling bill? |
| 02:53.30 | file[bed] | KeyserSoze: nope |
| 02:53.49 | file[bed] | KeyserSoze: these sheets apparently are able to do just as I stated... I have yet to believe it though |
| 02:53.56 | Xentac | fucken printer |
| 02:54.04 | file[bed] | oh - all the bills are automatic payment :p |
| 02:54.06 | Xentac | file[bed]: rain |
| 02:54.13 | Xentac | speaking of bills... |
| 02:54.13 | file[bed] | Xentac: ic |
| 02:54.17 | Xentac | I have to pay for my classes... |
| 02:54.47 | KeyserSoze | how's tuition in Canada? |
| 02:55.04 | Xentac | after tuition was raised? |
| 02:55.08 | Xentac | or before? |
| 02:55.13 | KeyserSoze | both |
| 02:55.29 | Xentac | silly provincial government... removing the tuition freeze of about 4 years... |
| 02:55.42 | KeyserSoze | did it go up a lot? |
| 02:56.12 | Xentac | well... from $1200 CDN for 5 classes a semester to $1800 CDN for 5 classes a semester |
| 02:56.19 | Xentac | plus it's going up next semester again |
| 02:56.58 | KeyserSoze | that's not too bad. |
| 02:57.11 | Xentac | a lot of the hippies are complaining |
| 02:57.16 | file[bed] | haha |
| 02:57.24 | Xentac | it isn't all that bad... but for someone who doesn't have a lot of money it really suck |
| 02:57.26 | KeyserSoze | 1800 = 1200US? |
| 02:57.26 | file[bed] | one of the french teachers at my school is a hippy, so we think! |
| 02:57.27 | Xentac | s /suck/sucks |
| 02:57.40 | file[bed] | yesterday's class involved throwing a stress ball at people LOL |
| 02:57.48 | Xentac | ibot: change 1800 .ca to .us |
| 02:57.57 | KeyserSoze | you think because your teacher is french, or because they are a hippy? |
| 02:58.18 | file[bed] | no |
| 02:58.22 | file[bed] | just the stories he tells |
| 02:58.38 | file[bed] | his looks... |
| 02:58.38 | Xentac | uvic is full of hippies |
| 02:58.41 | file[bed] | attitude... |
| 02:58.56 | Xentac | the university is cutting down some trees to put up a new building... |
| 02:59.01 | Xentac | and they're all hugging the trees |
| 02:59.04 | KeyserSoze | lol |
| 02:59.10 | KeyserSoze | freaking tree huggers |
| 02:59.11 | file[bed] | lol |
| 02:59.24 | Xentac | damn straight |
| 02:59.33 | Xentac | they say that they should just build the building in a parking lot or something |
| 02:59.41 | Xentac | but parking is already bad enough! |
| 02:59.43 | file[bed] | haha |
| 02:59.44 | Xentac | stupid hippies |
| 02:59.54 | KeyserSoze | you should explain that their arms are made of food they've eaten, which is indirectly the product of dead trees. |
| 03:00.05 | KeyserSoze | they'll freak out and cut off their arms, and then they can't hug trees |
| 03:00.23 | KeyserSoze | lol |
| 03:00.48 | Xentac | and they're always so busy complaining about something |
| 03:00.52 | KeyserSoze | we've got people like that in Michigan (that you can't reason with). they are called 'Christians' |
| 03:00.57 | Xentac | university is the prime place for a whole bunch of whiners |
| 03:01.02 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 03:01.09 | Xentac | I think I know why too... |
| 03:01.21 | Xentac | it'd be because, before then, they lived under the protective umbrella of their parents |
| 03:01.26 | KeyserSoze | it's very annoying. |
| 03:01.35 | Xentac | now... they have their of voice... and complain about everything |
| 03:01.52 | Xentac | it's really bloody annoying |
| 03:01.54 | file[bed] | the sciences building at Universite de Moncton scared me last time I went... |
| 03:02.01 | file[bed] | the lights turned on according to your movements... |
| 03:02.06 | file[bed] | almost like I was being watched!!!!!!! |
| 03:02.22 | Xentac | file[bed]: except they were probably motion sensors |
| 03:02.48 | file[bed] | never know |
| 03:03.08 | file[bed] | and then the second floor turned out to be the same floor you go in on, which was... strange |
| 03:03.31 | Xentac | file[bed]: that's nothing... |
| 03:03.35 | file[bed] | the university at Quebec was sweet, everything underground! |
| 03:03.40 | Xentac | the engineering building at uvic is broken up into two parts |
| 03:03.54 | KeyserSoze | sophie goes to school at a place that has a building that people enter on the 4th floor. |
| 03:03.56 | file[bed] | lockers, hideouts, stores |
| 03:03.56 | Xentac | the ELW (Engineering Lab Wing) and the EOW (Engineering Office Wing) |
| 03:04.02 | KeyserSoze | it's ground level on the first floor, on the other side |
| 03:04.06 | Xentac | you walk from one building to the other (without really knowing...) |
| 03:04.14 | Xentac | and suddenly you're one floor higher or lower |
| 03:04.16 | file[bed] | ic |
| 03:04.19 | Xentac | they're numbered differently |
| 03:04.29 | KeyserSoze | lol. that'd be confusing. |
| 03:05.30 | file[bed] | in theory at the university in Quebec City you could live underground without visiting the surface any |
| 03:05.55 | KeyserSoze | do they have an annoying flash form factor that they push in the stead of Compact Flash? |
| 03:05.58 | file[bed] | well, exiting the buildings/tunnels |
| 03:06.10 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: yeah, Sony memory sticks |
| 03:06.26 | KeyserSoze | ah, that's a good reason to hate them, isn't it? |
| 03:06.35 | Xentac | I guess so.. |
| 03:08.47 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 03:08.54 | Xentac | this is true |
| 03:09.18 | file[bed] | well I think I'll call it a night |
| 03:09.24 | Xentac | it: a night |
| 03:09.25 | file[bed] | tomorrow is going to prove most interesting |
| 03:09.25 | KeyserSoze | but i *will* boycott any digital camera that doesn't use CF |
| 03:09.34 | file[bed] | KeyserSoze: I concur |
| 03:09.41 | Xentac | we have a sony digital camera |
| 03:09.43 | file[bed] | KeyserSoze: down with proprietary!!!! |
| 03:09.57 | file[bed] | Xentac: that reminds me of that commercial about the sony memory stick... |
| 03:10.14 | file[bed] | where they make a movie and throw a bottle into the ocean with the stick in it... |
| 03:10.43 | file[bed] | Xentac: how? |
| 03:10.48 | Xentac | well... |
| 03:10.55 | Xentac | I tried to ping a computer on my network... |
| 03:11.01 | Xentac | and then clicked on network neighbourhood... |
| 03:11.11 | Xentac | and then... tried to type in the address bar |
| 03:12.40 | Xentac | and now it's trying to pick itself up off the ground |
| 03:13.12 | file[bed] | lol |
| 03:22.17 | KeyserSoze | it's annoying that the Fujitsu E series notebooks (which are the only notebooks with a built in wireless mouse) don't have usb 2.0 |
| 03:22.45 | file[bed] | uh huh |
| 03:23.02 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: sounds like it |
| 03:25.01 | Xentac | alright... here comes crunch time... |
| 03:25.14 | KeyserSoze | the fujitsu C series, which does have 4 USB 2.0 ports, and an optional DVD burner, doesn't have a wireless mouse option, and more damningly, only does 1024x768 on a 15" screen. |
| 03:25.18 | Xentac | now that my funds finally look like they've dried up (before I still had debts to pay off) |
| 03:25.37 | Xentac | can I make it through everything I've planned in the next 4 months? |
| 03:25.55 | KeyserSoze | you live at home, don't you? |
| 03:26.01 | Xentac | I do |
| 03:26.46 | Xentac | but I have nasty tendancy to buy my lunch (cause I don't make enough time in the morning to make one) |
| 03:26.49 | Xentac | lucky you |
| 03:26.52 | Xentac | well... |
| 03:26.56 | Xentac | all of my bills are self-inflicted |
| 03:27.09 | file[bed] | Xentac likes buying electronic devices |
| 03:27.10 | Xentac | cell phone, motorcycle maintanence, lunches... |
| 03:27.17 | KeyserSoze | ah, do you work during the school year, or alternate coops and school? |
| 03:27.20 | file[bed] | such as laptop, Zaurus, and other stuff |
| 03:27.28 | Xentac | file[bed]: I doubt I'll be buying many of those, unless they relate directly to my trip |
| 03:27.34 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: alternate |
| 03:27.41 | Xentac | the thing is... I do have a good amount of money saved up |
| 03:27.46 | Xentac | I would just rather not use it |
| 03:27.49 | file[bed] | Xentac: trip? |
| 03:27.51 | KeyserSoze | i worked part time when i went to school, for pocket money. i couldn't have gotten done in 3 years if I did a coop |
| 03:28.01 | Xentac | file[bed]: yeah... the one I've been talking about forever... |
| 03:28.10 | file[bed] | Xentac: to where? |
| 03:28.12 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: I won't be done in 3 years ;o) |
| 03:28.18 | Xentac | Ottawa, then Halifax? |
| 03:28.23 | file[bed] | oh right |
| 03:28.27 | file[bed] | thought you meant a different trip |
| 03:28.28 | KeyserSoze | you won't be done in 3 years from now? or 3 total? |
| 03:28.39 | KeyserSoze | Xentac: don't forget to swing by Michigan. |
| 03:28.56 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: I probably will on the way back |
| 03:28.58 | Xentac | 3 total |
| 03:29.01 | file[bed] | don't forget Moncton too |
| 03:29.13 | Xentac | probably early 2005 |
| 03:30.05 | file[bed] | Xentac: you can make it to Halifax in 3 hours from Moncton btw |
| 03:30.09 | KeyserSoze | what's the conversion factor from Canadian school credits to American credits? |
| 03:30.13 | Xentac | file[bed]: that's cool |
| 03:30.24 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: I think you need a function over all things credit |
| 03:30.26 | file[bed] | Xentac: what were you expecting? |
| 03:30.33 | Xentac | each institution implements them differently |
| 03:30.39 | Xentac | file[bed]: I don't know, I hadn't thought that far |
| 03:30.45 | KeyserSoze | well, a BS is about 120-130 credits, and a MS is about 30 credits here. |
| 03:30.51 | file[bed] | Xentac: think ahead Mister! |
| 03:31.07 | Xentac | file[bed]: dude... I'm already thinking 4 months ahead, come on |
| 03:31.25 | file[bed] | Xentac: think farther!!! |
| 03:31.44 | file[bed] | :) |
| 03:31.55 | Xentac | ugh... |
| 03:32.25 | Xentac | yup... I will most definatly need to be dipping into my savings |
| 03:32.36 | Xentac | although... I do teach karate... so I get some "decent" money from that |
| 03:32.49 | Xentac | that might tide me over... for a little while... |
| 03:33.05 | Xentac | I know I won't be able to pay all of my expenses with it though... |
| 03:33.41 | file[bed] | sleep... bbl |
| 03:33.52 | Xentac | file[bed]: are you 3 or 4 hours ahead of me? |
| 03:34.04 | Xentac | 4.. |
| 03:34.05 | file[bed] | it's 11:33PM here |
| 03:34.17 | KeyserSoze | it's 10:34 here |
| 03:34.17 | Xentac | it's 7:34PM here |
| 03:34.17 | file[bed] | why? |
| 03:34.33 | Xentac | wasn't sure if you were on eastern or.. ummm... atlantic? |
| 03:34.50 | file[bed] | east |
| 03:34.58 | Xentac | eastern is 3 hours ahead of me |
| 03:34.59 | file[bed] | southeastern new brunswick |
| 03:35.06 | Xentac | you're on atlantic time... |
| 03:35.10 | file[bed] | oh time zone |
| 03:35.11 | Xentac | 4 hours ahead of me... |
| 03:35.15 | Xentac | that's 4 hours off GMT |
| 03:35.15 | file[bed] | thought location |
| 03:35.22 | file[bed] | anyway |
| 03:35.25 | file[bed] | SLEEP. |
| 03:35.27 | Xentac | ta ta |
| 03:37.12 | Xentac | damn... |
| 03:37.27 | Xentac | since 2001 I've spent 4600 on school... |
| 03:37.32 | Xentac | I suppose that's not all that much... |
| 03:37.44 | Xentac | though... that doesn't include 2000's spending... |
| 03:38.01 | Xentac | and part of 2001 as well (my records start around 6/11/2001) |
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| 05:43.57 | SoopaT | hola |
| 05:44.06 | gonkulator | hello SoopaT |
| 05:44.55 | gonkulator | SoopaT: hables espa–ol? |
| 05:44.59 | Xentac | hey gonkulator |
| 05:45.04 | gonkulator | hi Xentac |
| 05:45.41 | Xentac | gonkulator: if you got a sec, and are willing to listen (it won't take long), I'm ready to do my best justifying why I put that motorcycle link up a couple of days ago.. |
| 05:46.40 | gonkulator | Xentac: sure |
| 05:46.47 | Xentac | generally I just know what I'm going to do... without good thought I can't express it properly ;o) |
| 05:47.04 | Xentac | the way I see it (broad generalization) there are three types of drivers |
| 05:47.10 | Xentac | those who don't know/care about motorcycles |
| 05:47.21 | Xentac | those who know people who ride motorcycles, and know some things to look out for, etc etc |
| 05:47.25 | Xentac | and those you actually ride |
| 05:47.51 | Xentac | I read the article and figured it gave a good perspective from the saddle... |
| 05:48.11 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 05:48.16 | Xentac | I wanted to share it with the people who know about motorcycles so that they may better understand what it's actually like in a saddle |
| 05:48.36 | gonkulator | alright |
| 05:49.03 | Xentac | so there's my justification |
| 05:49.06 | Xentac | QED |
| 05:49.27 | gonkulator | sounds like fun, and a worthy thing |
| 05:49.43 | Xentac | what? riding? or my justification? |
| 05:50.38 | gonkulator | your justification |
| 05:51.11 | Xentac | that was why I got more frustrated when you started analysing it ;o) |
| 05:52.35 | Xentac | why? |
| 06:08.26 | gonkulator | thats exactly why |
| 06:09.26 | Xentac | ummm... huh? |
| 06:09.28 | gonkulator | top is reporting 84 processes |
| 06:09.41 | Xentac | oh... I thought you were talking about my last statement ;o) |
| 06:09.43 | KeyserSoze | a likely story |
| 06:10.08 | gonkulator | I got a zombie |
| 06:10.14 | gonkulator | but I think it died |
| 06:10.23 | KeyserSoze | anyone could just *claim* that top is reporting any number of processes they want. |
| 06:10.48 | KeyserSoze | let me borrow your root password for a minute... |
| 06:10.59 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: my top is reporting 7394057843925748932754389754398253489 processes |
| 06:11.18 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: your logging in would change the number of processes |
| 06:11.22 | gonkulator | it is reporting 77 now |
| 06:11.27 | KeyserSoze | ahah! |
| 06:11.35 | KeyserSoze | i bet it was 77 all along! |
| 06:11.44 | gonkulator | now its up to 89 |
| 06:11.49 | KeyserSoze | you're changing your story because you think you'll be caught! |
| 06:11.54 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: those are Canadian processes though... |
| 06:12.20 | KeyserSoze | s/get/got/ |
| 06:12.56 | Xentac | ok... I need a simple regular expression (by simple, I mean one that just uses (), *, and +) to express the set of all strings of 0's and 1's with at most one pair of consecutive 1's. |
| 06:13.21 | Xentac | hehehe... someone just told me I was pretty cool |
| 06:13.26 | KeyserSoze | at most? how about at least? |
| 06:13.34 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: good question... |
| 06:13.44 | KeyserSoze | i bet you'll be just as happy with "at least" |
| 06:13.46 | Xentac | no number less than 0, would be the assumption |
| 06:13.51 | KeyserSoze | it's easier, too. |
| 06:13.57 | Xentac | yeah, at least is easier |
| 06:13.58 | gonkulator | its back at 84 now |
| 06:13.59 | Xentac | but it's also incorrect |
| 06:14.01 | gonkulator | 3 running |
| 06:14.07 | gonkulator | no zombie, no stopped |
| 06:14.31 | KeyserSoze | 3 processes? /me is skeptical |
| 06:16.24 | Xentac | gonkulator: simple things, eh? |
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| 06:16.39 | twistedbot | Can anyone tell me what the story is with this rewrite of picogui? |
| 06:17.07 | gonkulator | twistedbot: new design... new speed... new coding |
| 06:17.12 | twistedbot | ok |
| 06:17.45 | twistedbot | So is it still going to be basically the same? |
| 06:17.53 | twistedbot | Eg widgets on the client end |
| 06:18.57 | twistedbot | Um, is it being redone because the old code was too messy? |
| 06:19.57 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: how does this regular expression work (I think I have it... but just tell me if there are cases I'm missing) ((0*01)*1(0*01)*) + ((100*)*1(100*)*) |
| 06:20.50 | KeyserSoze | i tried it, but i got a segfault. |
| 06:21.00 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: where'd you try it? on the command line...? |
| 06:21.01 | KeyserSoze | (not my computer, i personally got one) |
| 06:21.06 | Xentac | ah, I see |
| 06:21.19 | Xentac | I might be able to make it smaller... but I think I'll miss some cases... |
| 06:21.44 | Xentac | (0*01)*(100*)* |
| 06:21.56 | Xentac | the problem is that I'm missing all the cases where it starts with 1 |
| 06:22.02 | Xentac | hmmm... |
| 06:22.13 | Xentac | ((0*01)*(100*)*) + (1(0*01)*(100*)*) |
| 06:22.16 | Xentac | I wonder if that works... |
| 06:22.17 | Xentac | ;) |
| 06:22.19 | KeyserSoze | if it starts with 1, isn't it negative, and hence not wanted? |
| 06:22.32 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: no... this is just a string of 1s and 0s... |
| 06:22.59 | KeyserSoze | what did you mean by " no number less than 0, would be the assumption"? |
| 06:23.17 | Xentac | no number of pairs of 1 less than 0 |
| 06:23.18 | Xentac | ;) |
| 06:23.22 | Xentac | I was being a smart ass... |
| 06:23.37 | Xentac | how would you write a negative number of pairs of 1? |
| 06:23.57 | Xentac | I think the line above might be it... but it looks so bulky... |
| 06:24.04 | Xentac | oh wait... it's not |
| 06:24.16 | Xentac | it doesn't have all the strings with pairs that end in 1... |
| 06:24.18 | Xentac | ugh |
| 06:24.34 | Xentac | I'm not able to pull this reg exp out of my ass... |
| 06:29.03 | Xentac | dude... looking at the next question... I think I figured it out... |
| 06:29.56 | Xentac | (10+0)*11(01+0)* |
| 06:30.02 | Xentac | I believe that's it |
| 06:30.22 | Xentac | 10+0 will never have two 1's beside each other |
| 06:30.25 | Xentac | and will never end in 1 |
| 06:30.30 | KeyserSoze | "+" is "or"? |
| 06:30.32 | scanline | twistedbot: still here? |
| 06:30.34 | Xentac | correct |
| 06:30.40 | scanline | twistedbot: widgets are on the server, not the client |
| 06:30.59 | Xentac | 01+0 will never start with 1 and can end with 1.. and never have two 1s beside each other.. |
| 06:31.01 | Xentac | go me |
| 06:31.04 | scanline | twistedbot: it's not that the current code is messy, just that the design isn't modular enough to allow some of the things we'd like |
| 06:31.10 | KeyserSoze | wow, that's succinct, too. |
| 06:31.14 | scanline | twistedbot: the new design will be both simpler and more powerful than the current one |
| 06:31.31 | Xentac | KeyserSoze: the answer to the next question basically describes a case like that ;o) |
| 06:32.10 | twistedbot | scanline: ok |
| 06:37.43 | scanline | hey, cool. I think I have a job |
| 06:37.57 | scanline | err, another job, assuming smartdata pays me ;) |
| 06:48.36 | njs | merlin262: what do you here? |
| 06:48.40 | njs | hear |
| 06:49.12 | merlin262 | I irritate scanline. |
| 06:49.14 | merlin262 | =P |
| 06:49.45 | Xentac | njs: you've never asked me what I do... |
| 06:49.51 | merlin262 | haha |
| 06:50.31 | merlin262 | I also detonate file |
| 06:50.49 | njs | I never asked merlin262 what he does either, I wanted to know what he heard when he tapped his own line |
| 06:51.04 | Xentac | ah |
| 06:51.14 | Xentac | I guess it was the response that threw me off ;o) |
| 06:51.15 | merlin262 | roflol |
| 06:51.17 | Xentac | and the typo |
| 06:51.32 | merlin262 | i don't speak typo that well. :P |
| 06:53.56 | merlin262 | hehe |
| 06:54.09 | merlin262 | I've gotta figure out how I'm going to do this new program |
| 07:32.51 | captain_proton | wow...scanline asleep |
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| 08:04.39 | gonkulator | hi ahnkana |
| 08:21.59 | SoopaT | merlin262, how does that work |
| 08:22.00 | SoopaT | ? |
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| 11:32.50 | file[bed] | hey |
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| 14:46.53 | gonkey{iBook} | morning Aesop|comatose |
| 14:53.22 | Dire | Morning |
| 15:22.49 | Tader | morning Xentac :) |
| 15:22.59 | Xentac | morning Tader |
| 15:23.28 | Tader | How's life in PicoGUI land? :P |
| 15:24.22 | Xentac | alright, I suppose... I'm not all that active in PicoGUI land... I just hang out ;o) |
| 15:24.37 | Tader | :) |
| 15:24.48 | Tader | That's nice too... |
| 15:25.20 | Tader | I saw some nice screenshots today of picogui running on a Revo (Psion)... Kinda nice :) |
| 15:25.27 | Xentac | http://www.ucomics.com/foxtrot/ |
| 15:25.28 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 15:25.37 | Xentac | that's cool |
| 15:27.00 | Tader | :) |
| 15:30.21 | Tader | I'll try to cross compile a kernel again now... Stupid arm :P |
| 15:31.14 | Xentac | hehehe |
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| 15:48.37 | Xentac | the thought of the day |
| 15:48.51 | Xentac | Humility is a weird thing. When you think you have it, you don't. |
| 15:49.18 | gonkulator | Tader: was that supposed to be "Tader_Drunk"? |
| 16:08.03 | kergoth | morning |
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| 16:25.38 | Xentac | morning kergoth |
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| 17:42.32 | gonkulator | yay for polygons |
| 17:43.27 | gonkulator | ibot: seen scanline |
| 17:43.32 | | scanline is currently on #picogui (2d 3h 52m 51s) #openembedded (2d 3h 52m 51s) #elinux (2d 3h 52m 51s) #bzflag (2d 3h 52m 51s). Has said a total of 350 messages. Is idling for 10h 26m 17s |
| 17:43.43 | gonkulator | he must be taking a "short nap |
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| 17:51.34 | Dire | hehe |
| 18:13.40 | captain_proton | so gonkulator: so you're coming to astrology today? |
| 18:15.59 | ahnkana | hello all |
| 18:16.14 | all | hi there |
| 18:16.17 | Dire | heh |
| 18:16.25 | Dire | ewwo |
| 18:16.40 | ahnkana | wow i have no life |
| 18:16.41 | ahnkana | lol |
| 18:17.10 | Dire | Could make a 'no life' club - i'd join. |
| 18:17.14 | captain_proton | ahnkana: ran out, did you? |
| 18:17.31 | captain_proton | wow...that homework was SOOOO worth my time |
| 18:19.15 | answer | 1) what is your favorite color? |
| 18:19.43 | Dire | heh |
| 18:19.50 | Dire | awesome movie |
| 18:20.51 | ahnkana | lol |
| 18:22.29 | ahnkana | and then calc |
| 18:22.31 | captain_proton | yay for the pines of rome |
| 18:23.36 | gonkulator | captain_proton: I'll be up around 1:30ish |
| 18:23.39 | gonkulator | maybe closer to 1 |
| 18:24.05 | ahnkana | yea!! |
| 18:24.39 | captain_proton | woo |
| 18:25.01 | captain_proton | i wonder if the professor will notice the multiplication of the ibooks |
| 18:25.06 | gonkulator | lol |
| 18:25.07 | gonkulator | perhaps |
| 18:25.13 | gonkulator | I do have both of mine today |
| 18:25.21 | gonkulator | either captain_proton or ahnkana are welcome to my other one |
| 18:25.22 | captain_proton | scanline: btw, the astrology homework is on page -6-3, not 73 |
| 18:25.29 | captain_proton | gonkulator: i stole one from work |
| 18:25.36 | gonkulator | w00t |
| 18:25.39 | gonkulator | 4 iBooks |
| 18:25.44 | gonkulator | this is gonna be fun :D |
| 18:25.52 | captain_proton | (what a bunch of bad apples) |
| 18:26.09 | gonkulator | something like that |
| 18:26.10 | captain_proton | (that will never get old for me) |
| 18:27.35 | gonkulator | so (hopefully) I am only an hour away from boulder |
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| 18:46.52 | gonk{work} | stewpid ibiblio... its bein slow |
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| 19:22.38 | scanline | wow I slept in |
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| 19:40.52 | captain_proton | yay for sleeping sun loudly =) |
| 19:44.40 | Dire|work | tata |
| 19:46.02 | scanline | captain_proton: ooh, what a spiffy idea |
| 19:49.27 | captain_proton | scanline: you forgot the peanut butter for that |
| 19:49.31 | scanline | damn! |
| 19:49.36 | scanline | I'll come get that later |
| 19:49.42 | captain_proton | k |
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| 19:53.29 | scanline | captain_proton: you're the only person I know that likes spiciness more than me... except maybe Chris Howard |
| 19:53.51 | captain_proton | :) |
| 19:53.55 | file | argh |
| 19:54.41 | captain_proton | this dish is a lot tastier now than it was last night |
| 19:55.28 | captain_proton | dan is trying to find an excuse to use "delete this" |
| 19:55.40 | scanline | I need to get some more ramens and another bottle of hot sauce... |
| 19:55.48 | scanline | I'm down to I think two packages left, and I have no hot sauce |
| 19:55.53 | file | scanline: you need a minion |
| 19:56.34 | captain_proton | "this class will self-destruct in 10 seconds" |
| 19:58.34 | captain_proton | unfold thyself! |
| 20:01.39 | scanline | hmm |
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| 20:10.13 | captain_proton | darth_iBook should come to astrology too |
| 20:10.29 | captain_proton | network solutions is giving away frequent flyer miles for new domain registrations |
| 20:11.09 | captain_proton | "class err only defines a private destructor and has no friends" |
| 20:14.31 | darth_iBook | captain_proton: who all is going to astrology and when is it? |
| 20:14.35 | darth_iBook | and is there wireless? |
| 20:14.47 | scanline | Duane G1B20, there's wireless |
| 20:14.55 | darth_iBook | hmmm... when |
| 20:14.59 | scanline | 2:00 PM |
| 20:15.09 | darth_iBook | hmmm... |
| 20:15.19 | darth_iBook | maybe next time, I have homework that has to get done today |
| 20:15.43 | hikke | e |
| 20:15.52 | hikke | woops, wrong window |
| 20:17.17 | captain_proton | we're (probably) going to have me & scanline (we're actually IN the class), brandon and jen |
| 20:18.24 | scanline | and laptops for all |
| 20:18.58 | scanline | I love rice.. why do they bother serving anything else at the dining halls |
| 20:37.49 | captain_proton | scanline: gonk is here |
| 20:39.48 | lurgyman | er, gonkulator |
| 20:39.51 | lurgyman | hi scanline |
| 20:39.55 | lurgyman | SPONGES |
| 20:40.11 | lurgyman | hi darth_iBook |
| 20:40.37 | scanline | hmm |
| 20:40.38 | scanline | hiya |
| 20:40.41 | clurgygonk | :D |
| 20:47.46 | scanline | ahnkana_: pokr |
| 20:47.48 | scanline | er |
| 20:47.49 | scanline | poke |
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| 21:03.42 | scanlime | It is cold and dark in space |
| 21:03.51 | prot-astrology | you got it wrong |
| 21:03.55 | scanlime | damn |
| 21:03.57 | prot-astrology | "a light year from a star is cold and dark" |
| 21:04.25 | *** join/#picogui gonkulator (~brandon@stad235-186-dhcp.Colorado.EDU) |
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| 21:06.27 | scanlime | parse error, mismatched parenthesis |
| 21:06.39 | gonkulator | the professor said astrology |
| 21:06.43 | scanlime | wow |
| 21:06.43 | gonkulator | its funny |
| 21:07.24 | gonkulator | bummer |
| 21:07.46 | gonkulator | lol |
| 21:07.47 | prot-astrology | BOOOING |
| 21:07.54 | gonkulator | hi prot-astrology |
| 21:07.58 | prot-astrology | mornin! |
| 21:08.06 | scanlime | good morning, class! |
| 21:08.15 | gonkulator | he mis-spelled planuts |
| 21:08.25 | prot-astrology | its another beautiful day! |
| 21:08.38 | gonkulator | prot-astrology: so true, so true |
| 21:08.48 | scanlime | I'm just waiting for some hippy to yell at our professor for suggesting there are more than one god |
| 21:09.03 | scanlime | he seemed so worried about being a heretic last wednesday |
| 21:09.29 | file | greetings fellow human beans. |
| 21:09.31 | ahnkana{class} | you mean there is only one g-d? i am so confused |
| 21:09.44 | scanlime | gfed? |
| 21:09.53 | ahnkana{class} | next you are going to tell me the earth isn't flat |
| 21:09.59 | gonkulator | ahnkana{class}: its all a matter of perception... anyone who "sees" one g-d is actually seeing all of them standing in a line from the edge |
| 21:10.13 | ahnkana{class} | lol' |
| 21:10.31 | gonkulator | horror scopes |
| 21:10.37 | gonkulator | for scoping horror |
| 21:10.49 | gonkulator | how many scopes of horror would you like with your cake? |
| 21:11.01 | ahnkana{class} | 42 |
| 21:11.07 | gonkulator | why only 42? |
| 21:11.07 | prot-astrology | sorry gonkulator, horror is no longer in scope |
| 21:11.32 | gonkulator | silly programmer humor |
| 21:11.33 | scanlime | horror is more effective in a dynamically typed language |
| 21:11.37 | ahnkana{class} | no.....philosophy!!! |
| 21:11.40 | gonkulator | like brainfuck? |
| 21:11.55 | ahnkana{class} | stupid problem! why is it wrong! |
| 21:11.55 | scanlime | brainfuck is more like a no-typed language... |
| 21:11.56 | ahnkana{class} | grr |
| 21:12.24 | gonkulator | dak |
| 21:12.54 | scanlime | was that in OpenGL or for a generic raster device? |
| 21:12.58 | gonkulator | the zodiak was a mass murder |
| 21:13.02 | gonkulator | er, murderer |
| 21:13.11 | prot-astrology | pisces: "you will meet a three-ton rinocerous named Rodney" |
| 21:13.12 | gonkulator | it is in java, so generic raster device |
| 21:13.22 | gonkulator | Cancer: you will die |
| 21:13.35 | scanlime | PicoGUI has a primitive for drawing filled convex or concave polygons, but Shane Nay wrote that |
| 21:13.45 | prot-astrology | libra: the scale of your problems is beyond me |
| 21:13.55 | file | gonkulator: hey Mr. Smith! |
| 21:14.00 | gonkulator | hi file |
| 21:14.13 | file | gonkulator: how are you? |
| 21:14.24 | file | gonkulator: how is it? |
| 21:14.33 | gonkulator | the class... drunk |
| 21:14.37 | gonkulator | I am having fun though |
| 21:14.46 | gonkulator | there is a giggling girl in front of me |
| 21:14.49 | gonkulator | I think she is drunk |
| 21:14.49 | file | oh ic |
| 21:15.40 | file | gonkulator: done any assignments yet? |
| 21:15.50 | gonkulator | file: odd that you ask |
| 21:15.53 | gonkulator | file: indeed I have |
| 21:17.29 | scanlime | giggling eh? |
| 21:17.43 | gonkulator | thats what I sa |
| 21:17.44 | gonkulator | saw |
| 21:17.51 | gonkulator | should I "accidently" kick her chair? |
| 21:17.58 | scanlime | ha |
| 21:18.09 | scanlime | what a useful discussion |
| 21:18.14 | prot-astrology | yup |
| 21:18.21 | prot-astrology | i might have been reading the incorrect horoscope! |
| 21:18.33 | scanlime | you could be living someone else's life? |
| 21:18.36 | scanlime | how scary! |
| 21:18.38 | gonkulator | science in pure bull shit? |
| 21:18.48 | gonkulator | I guess it has to come from somewhere |
| 21:19.00 | gonkulator | the ass of a cow is as good of a place as any I guess |
| 21:19.05 | ahnkana{class} | hmm |
| 21:19.13 | scanlime | ok, someone here -must- ask where gravity comes from |
| 21:19.17 | ahnkana{class} | wow....i am important...who knew |
| 21:20.05 | gonkulator | scanlime: where does baby gravity come from? |
| 21:20.15 | scanlime | ~sci-fi du jour |
| 21:20.16 | | Explosion imminent: charged graviton damping generator in engineering, ensign kirk |
| 21:20.29 | gonkulator | ensign kirk eh? |
| 21:20.35 | scanlime | ~sci-fi du jour |
| 21:20.35 | | There seems to be a inverse graviton inversion generator in 10-forward, ensign kirk |
| 21:20.35 | gonkulator | ~lart uranus |
| 21:20.46 | scanlime | ~sci-fi du jour |
| 21:20.46 | | It's some kind of charged flux photon reflection field in engineering, ensign travis |
| 21:20.51 | gonkulator | ~lart professor |
| 21:20.56 | scanlime | ~sci-fi du jour |
| 21:20.56 | | Explosion imminent: charged flux proton emission generator in engineering, captain kirk |
| 21:21.10 | gonkulator | Kaptan |
| 21:21.14 | gonkulator | ! |
| 21:21.14 | scanlime | ~sci-fi du jour |
| 21:21.15 | | It's some kind of hyper-charged quark emission field in deck 42, ensign kirk |
| 21:22.13 | gonkulator | ~lart asteroids |
| 21:22.48 | scanlime | Prove the hypotenuse! |
| 21:22.51 | gonkulator | Stop doing acid! |
| 21:23.17 | gonkulator | it has failed all scientific tests... but ONE |
| 21:23.21 | prot-astrology | is it just me or have they discussed astrology for the last 5 lectures? |
| 21:23.28 | ahnkana{class} | da-da-da-daaaaaaaa |
| 21:23.28 | gonkulator | seems to pass the id10t test just fine |
| 21:23.34 | scanlime | this is the astrology class, right? |
| 21:24.04 | ahnkana{class} | they lied...this isn't a science class...oh wait you knew that |
| 21:24.53 | gonkulator | the jupiter effect makes people think like cows for 10.32 seconds |
| 21:24.54 | scanlime | most of my other classes have about 4 people with laptops |
| 21:25.01 | scanlime | and they're smaller than this... |
| 21:25.02 | ahnkana{class} | yep |
| 21:25.17 | prot-astrology | last time we attended there was one other person here with a laptop |
| 21:25.24 | prot-astrology | but they were taking notes on it |
| 21:25.25 | scanlime | taking notes! |
| 21:25.27 | scanlime | ha! |
| 21:25.33 | gonkulator | idiots |
| 21:25.56 | ahnkana{class} | my brains are melting, my braasssssssssiiiifdj;lkfsda |
| 21:25.56 | prot-astrology | sounds like that horrible horrible macgyver movie |
| 21:26.02 | gonkulator | scanlime: emulate foust! |
| 21:26.08 | scanlime | hmm |
| 21:26.13 | prot-astrology | foust? |
| 21:26.19 | gonkulator | maybe faust |
| 21:26.24 | scanlime | err, yeah |
| 21:26.26 | gonkulator | [he dies] |
| 21:26.33 | scanlime | oh, that's all? |
| 21:26.37 | gonkulator | ROLFMO |
| 21:26.39 | prot-astrology | ibot: emulate faust is <action>sells his soul |
| 21:26.40 | | prot-astrology: okay |
| 21:26.46 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:27.06 | gonkulator | ibot: horoscope is <action>lies |
| 21:27.06 | | gonkulator: okay |
| 21:27.08 | scanlime | oh boy, an experiment! |
| 21:27.15 | prot-astrology | yaaay |
| 21:27.15 | ahnkana{class} | ~particle du jour |
| 21:27.16 | | inverse meson |
| 21:27.18 | prot-astrology | a scientific test |
| 21:27.20 | scanlime | prot-astrology: ibot has a wimpy length limit on factoids |
| 21:27.27 | scanlime | ~sci-fi du jour |
| 21:27.28 | | Explosion imminent: charged pseudoproton damping generator in the holodeck, ensign kirk |
| 21:27.47 | gonkulator | not yet |
| 21:27.51 | ahnkana{class} | i dooooo |
| 21:28.13 | file | gonkulator: does the prof call on you for answers!!!!! |
| 21:28.18 | file | gonkulator: does he know your name? |
| 21:29.08 | prot-astrology | ahnkana{class}, scanlime: D? |
| 21:29.09 | scanlime | wow, "M" is really close |
| 21:29.27 | gonkulator | hi lurgyman |
| 21:29.35 | gonkulator | lurgyman: I borrowed your x-chat |
| 21:29.40 | gonkulator | lurgyman: bunch of brasses? |
| 21:30.03 | scanlime | prot-astrology: well, the 'order in' part works |
| 21:30.10 | prot-astrology | thats what i was thinking |
| 21:30.32 | scanlime | shouldn't we add confidence intervals? |
| 21:30.35 | lurgyman | it was like sitting in a room with 3 galinas, if she were dumber by about 60 IQ points ... all planning how they're gonna get drunk this weekend |
| 21:30.47 | scanlime | haha |
| 21:31.04 | lurgyman | if the horn player had been there, it coulda been 4 galinas |
| 21:31.46 | lurgyman | scanlime: calc lab |
| 21:31.55 | lurgyman | and we get along well |
| 21:32.02 | prot-astrology | scanlime has cancer |
| 21:32.04 | lurgyman | i just don't smoke, or drink, or smoke other things... |
| 21:32.16 | file | I played my MP3 Player for 2 hours today, and it still has power left - nifty |
| 21:32.19 | lurgyman | or plan on how i'm going to achieve any of those |
| 21:32.26 | ahnkana{class} | HAHAH |
| 21:32.28 | ahnkana{class} | 'i am so cool |
| 21:32.33 | file | ahnkana{class}: I agree |
| 21:32.39 | gonkulator | weekly challenge time |
| 21:32.42 | prot-astrology | file: thats what happens when you plug it into the wall |
| 21:32.43 | scanlime | We need a price-is-right annoucer voice for these |
| 21:32.45 | lurgyman | ahnkana{class}: cool why?\ |
| 21:32.52 | file | prot-astrology: at school? |
| 21:32.56 | ahnkana{class} | on this bullshit quiz, guess nyour sign, i put the one the best describes me, qand i was serious, and i was right....how funny is that |
| 21:32.58 | gonkulator | lurgyman: what are you doing in about 40 minutes |
| 21:33.09 | lurgyman | gonkulator: most likely... jack squat |
| 21:33.19 | file | I require food... mmm yes |
| 21:33.19 | prot-astrology | where do you think electricity comes from?! you think it just COMES OUT OF THE WALL?! |
| 21:33.29 | file | prot-astrology: it comes from the gnomes |
| 21:33.34 | lurgyman | no, it comes from cacti |
| 21:33.48 | file | gonkulator: why? |
| 21:33.52 | file | gonkulator: not? |
| 21:33.58 | scanlime | wow, a psychology quesion |
| 21:34.09 | scanlime | ibot: 1/(12!) |
| 21:34.10 | | scanlime: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 21:34.28 | scanlime | ibot: 1/(12*12)*100 |
| 21:34.50 | prot-astrology | ibot: 1/144 |
| 21:34.56 | lurgyman | ibot: math |
| 21:35.09 | scanlime | 0.6% |
| 21:35.11 | lurgyman | scanlime: use python, it's a better calculator |
| 21:35.14 | scanlime | we could round up to 1... |
| 21:35.19 | scanlime | lurgyman: true |
| 21:36.08 | prot-astrology | sound it out... |
| 21:36.21 | lurgyman | what's the challenge today? |
| 21:36.48 | gonkulator | lurgyman: dumb question |
| 21:36.55 | gonkulator | followed by komatose turkeys in heat |
| 21:37.06 | gonkulator | or is that comatose |
| 21:37.09 | scanlime | lurgyman: python is the only calculator I know that can handle 2^128 correctly :) |
| 21:37.14 | prot-astrology | khomatose |
| 21:37.22 | lurgyman | tomatoes? |
| 21:37.22 | scanlime | khoumatosse |
| 21:38.03 | lurgyman | comatose like 4BURNT UMBRELLA |
| 21:38.12 | file | who called my name? |
| 21:38.21 | lurgyman | the kernel |
| 21:38.32 | file | darn! |
| 21:38.56 | ahnkana{class} | the was hardly 10min, i need more time |
| 21:39.14 | lurgyman | 3 and one half badgers please |
| 21:39.19 | gonkulator | file: whats the matter... chicken? |
| 21:39.36 | scanlime | python's long integer type is nifty |
| 21:39.57 | file | gonkulator: eh? |
| 21:40.02 | ahnkana{class} | hey!!! |
| 21:40.21 | gonkulator | cool... ahnkana{class}'s battery lasted |
| 21:40.43 | scanlime | what time is it? when my battery drained all the way the clock died |
| 21:40.51 | gonkulator | 2:40 |
| 21:40.54 | ahnkana{class} | grrr...now it works.....stupid hobbits.... |
| 21:40.54 | scanlime | ah |
| 21:41.00 | gonkulator | scanlime: /time usually works too |
| 21:41.04 | ahnkana{class} | (if by hobbits you mean calculus) |
| 21:41.13 | scanlime | gonkulator: heh |
| 21:41.17 | scanlime | no such command |
| 21:41.34 | file | scanlime: just /ctcp gonkulator TIME |
| 21:41.47 | gonkulator | whoa... |
| 21:41.51 | gonkulator | it verks |
| 21:42.05 | file | what works? |
| 21:42.13 | scanlime | I can ask your client for time, can't ask the server |
| 21:42.16 | ahnkana{class} | hmmm |
| 21:42.17 | ahnkana{class} | wow |
| 21:42.25 | ahnkana{class} | someohow i totallly lost an hour there |
| 21:42.39 | file | just ask the server for the time |
| 21:42.42 | file | like I can do /raw time |
| 21:45.02 | lurgyman | hmm... let y'all out early today, looks lie |
| 21:45.11 | lurgyman | s/lie/like/ |
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| 22:20.05 | KeyserSoze | is Colorado in Moutain Standard Time (MST)? |
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| 22:34.44 | plfiorini | hi |
| 22:36.31 | KeyserSoze | howdy |
| 22:37.32 | ahnkana | hi |
| 22:38.31 | plfiorini | how are you guys? |
| 22:38.49 | KeyserSoze | not too bad |
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| 23:18.36 | *** topic/#picogui is http://picogui.org || If nobody here answers your question, try the pgui-devel mailing list || PicoGUI v0.44 "Polygons of the Apocalypse" released || New architecture under design: http://picogui.org/doc/neopicogui.png |
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| 23:28.11 | file | hi gonkulator |
| 23:28.16 | gonkulator | hi file |
| 23:29.05 | gonkulator | this is quite cool |
| 23:30.02 | KeyserSoze | how's it cool? features, looks, philosophically? |
| 23:32.18 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: hard to say |
| 23:32.24 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: its all about the colorlessness |
| 23:32.41 | gonkulator | ibot: seen darth_iBook |
| 23:32.42 | | darth_ibook <~evanshee@ec237-33-dhcp.Colorado.EDU> was last seen on IRC in channel #picogui, 3h 17m 23s ago, saying: 'maybe next time, I have homework that has to get done today'. |
| 23:32.44 | KeyserSoze | what toolkit does it use? |
| 23:32.49 | gonkulator | toolkit? |
| 23:32.52 | scanline | ncurses |
| 23:32.58 | KeyserSoze | oh. |
| 23:33.00 | scanline | though there is a gtk version |
| 23:33.01 | gonkulator | with or without the n? |
| 23:33.19 | KeyserSoze | verion has an 'n', I'm sure of it. |
| 23:33.37 | KeyserSoze | why use a text based IRC client? |
| 23:33.47 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: because all I have available to me is a shell |
| 23:33.54 | KeyserSoze | why's that? |
| 23:33.58 | KeyserSoze | what are you on? |
| 23:34.11 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: I am actually IRCing from work |
| 23:34.16 | gonkulator | even though I am nowhere near work |
| 23:34.25 | KeyserSoze | you don't have X at work? |
| 23:34.39 | KeyserSoze | what does "from work" mean, if you're not at work? |
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| 23:49.25 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: I am logged into my work machine, and therefore using it |
| 23:49.33 | KeyserSoze | from where? |
| 23:49.37 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: any more explanation would be pointless |
| 23:49.42 | gonkulator | except for that one critical point |
| 23:49.51 | gonkulator | and the answer to that question is... scanline's dorm room |
| 23:50.37 | KeyserSoze | why don't you run IRC on whatever machine you use an SSH client on? |
| 23:51.07 | gonkulator | because the IRC port is blocked on the machine that is running the NAT that it is behind |
| 23:51.12 | gonkulator | (how is that for confusing) |
| 23:51.31 | KeyserSoze | is it scanline's machine? |
| 23:51.45 | gonkulator | the NAT belongs to scanline |
| 23:51.48 | gonkulator | the NAT is NAVI |
| 23:51.49 | KeyserSoze | wait a minute, you don't need a specific port to use an IRC *Client*, only a *server* |
| 23:51.53 | gonkulator | whoa |
| 23:51.57 | gonkulator | scanline is shaving |
| 23:52.06 | gonkulator | don't ask me what |
| 23:52.26 | KeyserSoze | irc can't require it's client to use a specific port. if it didn't you couldn't run two IRC clients on the same machine. |
| 23:53.22 | scanline | KeyserSoze: it's not the source port that's filtered, it's the destination port |
| 23:53.32 | KeyserSoze | why would you filter that? |
| 23:53.37 | scanline | if I do an nmap to any machine from navi, port 6667 is filtered |
| 23:53.40 | scanline | I don't know! |
| 23:54.11 | prot-work | find out? |
| 23:54.24 | gonkulator | why port 6667 is filtered on navi |
| 23:54.47 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: it isn't the NAT's fault |
| 23:55.27 | KeyserSoze | scanline said "if I do an nmap to any machine from navi, port 6667 is filtered". what could filter it besides the machine doing the NAT? |
| 23:55.28 | prot-work | hm, 5 more minutes |
| 23:55.40 | gonkulator | KeyserSoze: the gateway |
| 23:55.50 | KeyserSoze | what's the gateway? |
| 23:55.57 | KeyserSoze | another machine? |
| 23:56.15 | scanline | KeyserSoze: it would be like the ISP, if this wasn't a campus thing.. |
| 23:56.44 | scanline | do a traceroute to anywhere, there are several routers between you and anything else on the internet |
| 23:56.54 | KeyserSoze | so, if you had an IRC server directly connected to the outside of Navi (in your dorm room), would it or would it not allow clients on the other side of Navi to connect? |
| 23:57.12 | scanline | yes |
| 23:57.12 | gonkulator | [plasma:~] brandon% traceroute anywhere |
| 23:57.12 | gonkulator | traceroute: unknown host anywhere |
| 23:59.31 | gonkulator | ibiblio is slow... |
| 23:59.51 | scanline | http://phd.stanford.edu/archive/phd012601s.gif |
