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| 03:03.28 | Dire|breaking_st | uff |
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| 04:51.26 | darth_mall | anyone here? |
| 04:51.51 | kergoth | no |
| 04:51.54 | darth_mall | =( |
| 04:51.57 | darth_mall | )= |
| 04:52.01 | darth_mall | so sad |
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| 06:07.48 | darth_mall | wb lurgyman |
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| 06:32.38 | lurgyman | greetings darth_mall! |
| 07:09.37 | darth_mall | dammit! I'm getting errors emerging X |
| 07:10.04 | darth_mall | I was so hoping I'd done everything right |
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| 07:51.21 | darth_mall | hi DevGirl |
| 07:51.48 | DevGirl | darth_mall: hiya! |
| 07:51.58 | DevGirl | darth_mall: how are you? |
| 07:52.53 | captain_proton | eeeeee! |
| 07:53.08 | captain_proton | i finally am over 1k in my checking account again |
| 07:53.21 | darth_mall | DevGirl: ok, reinstalling gentoo on the iBook again |
| 07:53.29 | darth_mall | captain_proton: congrats |
| 07:53.40 | DevGirl | darth_mall: heh |
| 07:54.56 | captain_proton | hey look |
| 07:55.03 | captain_proton | i could transfer money into my sister's savings account |
| 07:56.11 | captain_proton | oooo |
| 07:58.17 | darth_mall | captain_proton: what is a good size for a swap partition |
| 07:58.31 | captain_proton | darth_mall: 2x your ran |
| 07:58.31 | darth_mall | the website says 2*RAM |
| 07:58.33 | captain_proton | ram* |
| 07:58.33 | darth_mall | ok |
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| 08:07.59 | DevGirl | where's the t-shirts money going??? :D |
| 08:08.14 | DevGirl | hey! I deserve one tshirt! |
| 08:28.07 | darth_mall | captain_proton: you there? |
| 08:30.19 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 08:31.17 | darth_mall | nm, /me figured it out |
| 08:31.24 | darth_mall | I needed a different mirror for rsync |
| 08:31.28 | darth_mall | cuz the default one was down |
| 08:31.42 | darth_mall | but I got it under control |
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| 08:47.45 | ahnkana | the picogui store, hmm....i hope you are making money on that scanline, or you should sue, either way, it be sleepy time where i am....g''night all |
| 08:48.01 | darth_mall | night ahnkana |
| 08:54.54 | captain_proton | scanline: you should add a sad mac tshirt to the picogui store ;-) |
| 08:57.48 | darth_mall | hmm |
| 08:57.55 | darth_mall | it seems something is messed up, brb |
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| 09:11.26 | captain_proton | evil, EVIL |
| 09:11.44 | captain_proton | darth_mall: hey, how much do you pay on average for electricity per month? |
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| 09:17.00 | darth_mall | captain_proton: dunno |
| 09:17.29 | darth_mall | I'd guess I pay a total of less than about $430 a month |
| 09:17.34 | darth_mall | for everything 'cept food |
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| 11:10.24 | vlado|out | how can i set focus to some element through python ? |
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| 12:32.42 | vlado | anyone alive ? |
| 14:10.12 | balor | yep |
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| 15:51.28 | scanline | captain_proton: http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=picogui_store.4907888 |
| 15:53.00 | vlado | what's rong with that ? |
| 15:53.10 | scanline | eh? |
| 15:53.37 | vlado | self.app.link(self.mymethod, self.myfield, 'key') |
| 15:54.12 | scanline | the field widget doesn't send a 'key' event |
| 15:55.09 | vlado | and what widget i should use ? |
| 15:55.28 | scanline | well what do you want to do? |
| 15:57.38 | vlado | when the user press enter if the field isn't blank to set focus to next field |
| 15:58.07 | scanline | oh |
| 15:58.10 | vlado | is that possible ? |
| 15:58.15 | scanline | the field sends an 'activate' event when enter is pressed |
| 15:58.41 | scanline | I'm not sure if the equivalent of pgFocus has been implemented in the python client |
| 15:59.29 | scanline | ah. the request is implemented, but there's no 'focus' method for the widget class yet |
| 15:59.48 | scanline | I can add one really quickly, or you can do something like "app.server.focus(widget.handle)" |
| 16:06.05 | *** topic/#picogui by scanline -> http://picogui.org || If nobody here answers your question, try the pgui-devel mailing list || The new picogui.org is live! (occasionally) || http://www.cafeshops.com/picogui_store now with logo t-shirts, logo stickers, and guru() shirts |
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| 16:20.06 | captain_proton | scanline: beautiful! |
| 16:20.36 | scanline | =) |
| 16:21.42 | scanline | have fun |
| 16:22.48 | captain_proton | scanline: you want to check me on this board, right? ;) |
| 16:25.33 | captain_proton | ok, classtime |
| 16:25.51 | scanline | ok |
| 17:02.15 | vlado | how do i get the value of a field ? |
| 17:03.25 | vlado | there is broken example in clamps.py |
| 17:03.39 | scanline | "field.text" should work |
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| 17:22.55 | ahnkana | hi |
| 17:23.27 | Xentac | hi ahnkana |
| 17:25.16 | ahnkana | good morning |
| 17:25.25 | Xentac | good morning |
| 17:25.27 | Xentac | how are you? |
| 17:25.46 | ahnkana | i am tired, watching avery cool show on history channel |
| 17:26.13 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 17:26.33 | Xentac | I just stayed up late and didn't get a whole lot of sleep... pretty standard for me (even though I didn't need to get up for anything) |
| 17:26.34 | ahnkana | it's about a bigtop circus fire in 1914 |
| 17:26.50 | ahnkana | are you in the same time zone as we are? |
| 17:27.03 | Xentac | no... I think one hour behind |
| 17:27.08 | Xentac | it's 9:30 or so here |
| 17:28.03 | ahnkana | yep |
| 17:28.08 | ahnkana | it's 1030 here |
| 17:28.34 | ahnkana | wow, the stuff that the bigtop is made of cna't be put out |
| 17:28.41 | ahnkana | if can only burn out |
| 17:29.07 | Xentac | really... |
| 17:29.10 | Xentac | that's interesting... |
| 17:29.40 | ahnkana | kind of scary |
| 17:31.20 | Xentac | I wonder why they did that |
| 17:33.05 | ahnkana | did what? |
| 17:33.15 | ahnkana | or design it that way? |
| 17:33.46 | Xentac | made the material out of stuff you can't put out |
| 17:33.52 | Xentac | what did they gain from it? |
| 17:34.51 | ahnkana | i don't kow |
| 17:35.33 | ahnkana | alright hw time] |
| 17:35.54 | kergoth | why do i see hw and think hardware? |
| 17:36.14 | Xentac | kergoth: too much zaurus? ;) |
| 17:36.27 | kergoth | Xentac: too much computing |
| 17:36.35 | Xentac | that works too |
| 17:37.52 | kergoth | hm, got a fever and a headache all of a sudden |
| 17:37.53 | kergoth | i hate that |
| 17:38.11 | Xentac | you at home then? |
| 17:38.16 | kergoth | naw |
| 17:38.17 | Xentac | or just a quick hot flash? |
| 17:38.27 | kergoth | just a quick flash |
| 17:39.02 | Xentac | I find that normally happens with me when I don't have enough water |
| 17:39.10 | kergoth | hm, good point |
| 17:39.16 | kergoth | I tend to get dizzy when i get dehydrated |
| 17:39.23 | kergoth | its amazing just how many people dont get enough water |
| 17:39.26 | kergoth | and dont realize it |
| 17:39.34 | Xentac | yeah... it is truly amazing |
| 17:39.45 | kergoth | brb, ill take your advice and get something to drink |
| 17:39.52 | Xentac | I've found that, within the last year or so, I've been able to listen to my body a lot better |
| 17:39.54 | Xentac | hehehe, alrighty |
| 17:48.33 | scanline | wow, this performance analysis class is like taking probability all over again |
| 17:48.52 | Xentac | hehehe |
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| 18:41.12 | captain_proton | scanline: you here? |
| 18:44.51 | captain_proton | POKE |
| 18:45.38 | *** join/#picogui gonkulator (~brandon@h-69-3-122-238.DNVTCO56.covad.net) |
| 18:45.43 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 18:45.44 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 57 minutes and 10 seconds ago, saying: wow, this performance analysis class is like taking probability all over again [Thu Feb 20 04:56:31 2003] |
| 18:46.22 | gonkulator | hi caffeine |
| 18:46.25 | gonkulator | damn! |
| 18:46.26 | gonkulator | hi captain_proton |
| 18:46.43 | gonkulator | even though it just "looks" like I am home :D |
| 18:46.57 | gonkulator | PicoBot: status |
| 18:46.57 | PicoBot | Since Tue Feb 18 07:41:57 2003, there have been 3 modifications and 7 questions. I have been awake for 1 day, 22 hours, 12 minutes, 58 seconds this session, and currently reference 5354 factoids. Addressing is in require mode. |
| 18:47.12 | Xentac | gonkulator: what are you doing in Minessota? |
| 18:47.20 | gonkulator | Xentac: visiting a school |
| 18:47.35 | captain_proton | hrm, not there |
| 18:47.43 | gonkulator | captain_proton: check the bathroom |
| 18:47.52 | gonkulator | captain_proton: he might be taking a shower :-/ |
| 18:48.10 | captain_proton | could be |
| 18:48.14 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 18:48.54 | Xentac | gonkulator: why? |
| 18:49.24 | gonkulator | Xentac: because even though my surroundings are completely different, everything else is exactly the same |
| 18:49.34 | gonkulator | and because this might be the school I go to next year |
| 18:49.58 | Xentac | gonkulator: but what's so special about that? I do it all the time... |
| 18:51.04 | gonkulator | Xentac: I do it all the time too |
| 18:51.08 | gonkulator | but this is a new environment |
| 18:52.18 | darth_mall | hi gonkulator |
| 18:53.42 | gonkulator | wazzup? |
| 18:54.00 | darth_mall | ? |
| 18:55.05 | darth_mall | gonkulator: I forget, do I want AltiVec support? |
| 18:55.12 | gonkulator | nop;e |
| 18:55.17 | darth_mall | didn't think so |
| 18:55.21 | gonkulator | remember: AltiVec == Velocity Engine |
| 18:55.27 | darth_mall | right |
| 18:55.29 | gonkulator | :D |
| 18:55.35 | darth_mall | it said it was for g4's that's why I turned it off |
| 18:55.50 | darth_mall | ^_^ |
| 18:56.09 | darth_mall | I reinstalled again, and I'm getting errors with the video config in my kernel |
| 18:56.17 | gonkulator | I brought my iPod, and dumped its contents onto this guy's iMac |
| 18:56.21 | gonkulator | its great :) |
| 18:56.49 | darth_mall | cool |
| 18:58.01 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen ahnkana |
| 18:58.01 | PicoBot | ahnkana was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 22 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying: alright hw time] [Thu Feb 20 04:43:31 2003] |
| 18:58.05 | gonkulator | :) |
| 19:04.29 | gonkulator | dead channel.... |
| 19:15.51 | darth_mall | and back |
| 19:15.59 | gonkulator | wb darth_mall |
| 19:16.11 | darth_mall | hi |
| 19:16.51 | gonkulator | sorry to hear that |
| 19:17.08 | gonkulator | I will be installing linux on my iBook (500 mHz) pretty soon |
| 19:17.57 | gonkulator | if I have any problem spots, I'll write them down, and let you know where I ran into trouble |
| 19:18.00 | gonkulator | doh |
| 19:18.13 | darth_mall | ? |
| 19:20.37 | gonkulator | but, its all good |
| 19:21.09 | darth_mall | ok, I don't need compatibility w/ Xpmac do I? |
| 19:21.25 | gonkulator | oh, I got an iMac from McGraw yesterday! |
| 19:21.32 | darth_mall | for keeps?] |
| 19:21.38 | gonkulator | for keeps :) |
| 19:21.41 | darth_mall | neato |
| 19:21.50 | gonkulator | step one, upgrade the hard drive |
| 19:21.54 | gonkulator | step two install OS X |
| 19:22.04 | gonkulator | step three, install Gentoo |
| 19:22.16 | gonkulator | step four, there is no step four! |
| 19:22.22 | gonkulator | no step four!!!!! |
| 19:22.25 | gonkulator | hahahahaha |
| 19:24.12 | darth_mall | and you say I don't need ans lcd display support? |
| 19:24.25 | gonkulator | I think you do |
| 19:24.39 | darth_mall | oh, I thought you truned that off last time? maybe I was wrong |
| 19:24.54 | gonkulator | yeah |
| 19:25.03 | darth_mall | s/truned/turned/ |
| 19:25.29 | darth_mall | we will find out |
| 19:25.43 | darth_mall | ugh, you're on 9? |
| 19:25.48 | gonkulator | 10.1 |
| 19:25.51 | darth_mall | oh |
| 19:25.57 | Xentac | kergoth: don't you just hate stupid users on openzaurus-users? |
| 19:26.07 | gonkulator | er, 10.2 |
| 19:26.11 | gonkulator | 10.2.4 soon |
| 19:26.44 | gonkulator | and iChat and Safari and all that fun jazz |
| 19:26.58 | darth_mall | gonkulator: what are you doing in Minnesota anyway, who are you visiting |
| 19:27.28 | lurgyman | hello world |
| 19:27.38 | gonkulator | lurgyman: Hi Dan! |
| 19:27.46 | darth_mall | hello lurgy |
| 19:27.48 | the_fox | who is the fox |
| 19:27.57 | darth_mall | lol |
| 19:27.59 | i | opps |
| 19:28.02 | gonkulator | who are you? |
| 19:28.03 | hikke | :D |
| 19:28.09 | gonkulator | who are you? |
| 19:28.15 | darth_mall | who is me? |
| 19:28.25 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 19:28.34 | gonkulator | hahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 19:28.37 | gonkulator | later Xentac |
| 19:28.45 | darth_mall | thought so |
| 19:28.48 | darth_mall | lates Xentac |
| 19:28.52 | gonkulator | darth_mall: I am visiting a possible seminary for my graduate work |
| 19:28.59 | darth_mall | oh, neatski |
| 19:29.10 | darth_mall | ahnkana: you are a nut ^_^ |
| 19:29.25 | gonkulator | ahnkana: hi |
| 19:29.42 | darth_mall | nut with a capital Z |
| 19:29.52 | gonkulator | a roasted soy sort |
| 19:30.51 | ahnkana | i am not a nut |
| 19:30.54 | darth_mall | ^_^ |
| 19:30.56 | darth_mall | lol |
| 19:31.20 | ahnkana | where the dark time society foud |
| 19:31.46 | gonkulator | ahnkana: I once called a friend of mine "Mr. Papaya" and something funny happened |
| 19:31.53 | darth_mall | ? |
| 19:32.01 | ahnkana | and what was that? |
| 19:32.08 | gonkulator | he strangled the kid in front of him, and asked him what Papaya meant |
| 19:32.20 | gonkulator | the strangled kid said "its... a fruit" |
| 19:32.29 | gonkulator | so he said "whats its other meaning" |
| 19:32.45 | gonkulator | and the strangled kid said "there is no... other meaning..." |
| 19:32.46 | ahnkana | i odn't want to grow up |
| 19:32.50 | gonkulator | and gasped for breath |
| 19:32.54 | gonkulator | I odn'' |
| 19:32.56 | ahnkana | you can't cathc me in your henhouse |
| 19:32.56 | gonkulator | er |
| 19:33.00 | ahnkana | im going back to my plow |
| 19:33.02 | gonkulator | i odn't either |
| 19:33.04 | gonkulator | night ahnkana |
| 19:33.13 | ahnkana | back to the houses oh holly wood |
| 19:33.26 | ahnkana | i am not going to sleep |
| 19:33.31 | gonkulator | hollywood burns almost as good as hickory wood |
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| 19:34.15 | sad0ur | hi |
| 19:34.22 | darth_mall | hola sad0ur |
| 19:34.31 | gonkulator | sad0ur: hows it going |
| 19:34.55 | sad0ur | quite fine. (i still don |
| 19:34.56 | darth_mall | gonkulator: do you recall where support for the iBook monitor is in the kernel? |
| 19:35.13 | sad0ur | 't have a flat :), but quite fine :) |
| 19:35.15 | gonkulator | character devices I think |
| 19:35.26 | sad0ur | thx |
| 19:36.46 | gonkulator | is this like the song from Dan's concert called "song" |
| 19:37.39 | gonkulator | brb |
| 19:44.57 | gonkulator | and back |
| 19:45.08 | gonkulator | w00t, cd 2 is almost done burning |
| 19:45.16 | gonkulator | and after cd 2 is done, I install 10.2 :) |
| 19:46.14 | gonkulator | well, I am switching the ethernet to my iBok |
| 19:46.20 | gonkulator | brb |
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| 19:57.39 | file | hi gonkulator |
| 20:02.15 | gonkulator | hi file |
| 20:02.18 | gonkulator | PicoBot: hi file |
| 20:02.19 | PicoBot | ~hi file |
| 20:02.19 | | hi file |
| 20:04.10 | file | how are you? |
| 20:04.48 | file | good good |
| 20:05.01 | file | 6 school days till a one week break |
| 20:05.57 | gonkulator | cool |
| 20:06.01 | gonkulator | breaks are always fun |
| 20:06.13 | file | yup |
| 20:06.41 | file | how 'bout you? |
| 20:07.07 | file | any breaks soon? |
| 20:08.16 | file | nifty |
| 20:11.26 | gonkulator | brb |
| 20:16.49 | file | great |
| 20:17.26 | file | my S3 Trio64 can't handle a full screen music video... |
| 20:17.30 | file | then again, it's only 30fps |
| 20:17.32 | gonkulator | scanline: I got an iMac! |
| 20:17.37 | scanline | I got your email |
| 20:17.37 | gonkulator | and it has IR |
| 20:17.39 | scanline | what sort of imac? |
| 20:17.43 | gonkulator | it is a rev c |
| 20:17.49 | gonkulator | of the 15" CRT models |
| 20:17.54 | gonkulator | the hard drive is dead |
| 20:17.55 | scanline | neat |
| 20:17.57 | gonkulator | but I pulled it out |
| 20:18.11 | gonkulator | and it is ready for a working drive :) |
| 20:18.25 | gonkulator | it had a quantum fireball 4 gig in it :/ |
| 20:18.39 | gonkulator | the fireballs had problems with overheating and catching fire IIRC |
| 20:19.05 | file | hehe |
| 20:19.16 | scanline | It looks like there's a very good chance I'll be living in an apartment next school year and next summer, along with captain_proton and ahnkana |
| 20:19.22 | gonkulator | cool |
| 20:19.29 | scanline | and darth_mall, and lurgyman |
| 20:19.33 | darth_mall | ^_^ |
| 20:19.35 | gonkulator | did captain_proton find money for it? |
| 20:19.37 | scanline | =) |
| 20:19.48 | scanline | I think he's getting an internship over the summer |
| 20:19.51 | gonkulator | oooh |
| 20:19.52 | file | scanline: congrats, but... what about bandwidth? |
| 20:19.53 | gonkulator | thats good |
| 20:20.06 | scanline | I don't have money yet either, but between smartdata, valourtech, and an internship I think I should be fine |
| 20:20.16 | scanline | file: cable modem |
| 20:20.22 | file | scanline: good enough |
| 20:21.15 | darth_mall | scanline: quick question do I need both CUDA and PMU support on my iBook? |
| 20:21.23 | gonkulator | damn... the 15" iMac has a really pretty screen |
| 20:21.28 | scanline | you need PMU, I forget what CUDA is |
| 20:21.48 | darth_mall | does that mean I don't need it or you don't remember? |
| 20:22.08 | scanline | I don't remember |
| 20:22.08 | darth_mall | oki |
| 20:22.30 | gonkulator | scanline: I figured out what was wrong with my iBook's DRI |
| 20:22.46 | gonkulator | scanline: my kernel module was .1.1 versions too old |
| 20:23.00 | gonkulator | I had 1.0.0, and it wanted at least 1.1.1 |
| 20:23.17 | gonkulator | so as soon as I get it back, I should be able to fix it |
| 20:24.29 | scanline | I built a -10v power supply yesterday by accident |
| 20:24.40 | gonkulator | by accident? |
| 20:24.45 | scanline | .. yeah |
| 20:24.59 | scanline | 100khz oscillator, LC tank, diode, and capacitor |
| 20:25.23 | scanline | the oscillator generates a 5v DC square wave |
| 20:25.38 | scanline | that causes the LC tank to resonate, and generate something like a 15v AC sine wave |
| 20:26.09 | scanline | you can clip off the positive part of that signal with a diode, and filter out the 100khz using a capacitor, leaving about -10v DC |
| 20:26.21 | gonkulator | oh |
| 20:26.33 | scanline | it's a little like how a switching power supply works |
| 20:26.55 | scanline | closer to how something like a backlight power supply works |
| 20:28.00 | gonkulator | kergoth: how was your meeting? |
| 20:28.09 | scanline | hmm.. if I had a meter that could measure inductance, I'd make my own inductors |
| 20:28.23 | darth_mall | scanline: do I need generic pci ide chipset support? |
| 20:28.28 | scanline | yes |
| 20:28.50 | darth_mall | I don't suppose you remember what chipset is in the iBook do you? |
| 20:29.06 | gonkulator | the apple one :p |
| 20:29.10 | scanline | generic should work... |
| 20:29.23 | kergoth | gonkulator: not bad, was one of those .. "hi, did you have anything to talk about?" .. "nope.. what about you?" . "nope.. alright then, later." |
| 20:29.44 | gonkulator | kergoth: my boss always picks someone to pick on when the meetings go like that :( |
| 20:30.26 | kergoth | gonkulator: ack |
| 20:31.10 | gonkulator | one of the programmers ended up saying the word "documentation" well over 100 times to fill space |
| 20:31.18 | kergoth | lol |
| 20:32.03 | gonkulator | anyway, it sounds like you have a more sane way of doing things there |
| 20:38.30 | darth_mall | arg, I give up |
| 20:38.47 | darth_mall | scanline: if I brought my iBook over later would you mind taking a look at the kernel to see if you can spot what's wrong? |
| 20:39.21 | gonkulator | darth_mall: copy the kernel to your home directory on navi, and I'll take a look at it right now |
| 20:39.36 | scanline | darth_mall: later probably.. I have a class at 5:00 |
| 20:39.46 | darth_mall | gonkulator: how? |
| 20:39.54 | gonkulator | cd /usr/src |
| 20:40.04 | gonkulator | tar zcvf ~/kernel.tar.gz linux/ |
| 20:40.09 | gonkulator | cd |
| 20:40.27 | gonkulator | scp kernel.tar.gz nurku@navi.picogui.org:~/ :D |
| 20:40.34 | gonkulator | I can do the rest from here |
| 20:41.21 | darth_mall | ok |
| 20:41.23 | darth_mall | done |
| 20:41.37 | darth_mall | plz don't change anything w/o tellin me, k? I need to understand what is going on |
| 20:41.44 | gonkulator | ok |
| 20:42.22 | gonkulator | doh.. |
| 20:42.41 | gonkulator | darth_mall: I think you left off the / after linux |
| 20:43.03 | gonkulator | or |
| 20:43.14 | gonkulator | you did a tar of the symlink.. |
| 20:43.15 | gonkulator | damn |
| 20:43.25 | gonkulator | tar up the other directory :/ |
| 20:44.48 | darth_mall | which other directory? |
| 20:44.51 | darth_mall | there are 2 |
| 20:44.55 | gonkulator | right |
| 20:45.14 | darth_mall | ? |
| 20:45.20 | gonkulator | tar zxvf ~/kernel.tar.gz linux-<tab> |
| 20:45.44 | gonkulator | the directory "linux" is just a symlink to the other directory in /usr/src |
| 20:45.47 | darth_mall | there are two other directories though |
| 20:45.53 | gonkulator | oh |
| 20:45.54 | gonkulator | what are they? |
| 20:46.13 | darth_mall | linux-2.4.19-r6 and linux-2.4.20-ppc-r6, my assumption is you want the ppc one |
| 20:46.22 | darth_mall | but I wanna make sure |
| 20:46.36 | gonkulator | which one are you working from? |
| 20:46.48 | darth_mall | dunno, I just cd /usr/src/linux |
| 20:47.08 | gonkulator | oh |
| 20:47.31 | gonkulator | try working from 2.4.20-ppc |
| 20:47.43 | gonkulator | /usr/src/linux/ is a link to the 2.4.19-r6 |
| 20:48.01 | darth_mall | I'm gonna kick myself if that was the problem the whole time |
| 20:48.05 | darth_mall | it never even occured to me |
| 20:48.23 | gonkulator | :/ |
| 20:48.27 | gonkulator | its usually something simple |
| 21:04.20 | gonkulator | lurgyman: hey Dan@ |
| 21:04.23 | gonkulator | erm |
| 21:04.31 | gonkulator | lurgyman: hey Dan! |
| 21:05.14 | file | lurgyman is Dan? I never knew |
| 21:05.28 | scanline | there are many Dans |
| 21:05.30 | gonkulator | lurgyman is captain_proton's roomate |
| 21:05.43 | file | too many |
| 21:05.51 | file | just like Joshs... |
| 21:05.59 | file | there's three Joshs including me in my english class |
| 21:06.06 | darth_mall | lol |
| 21:06.11 | file | and the teacher isn't even nice enough to use last names, she just says Josh |
| 21:06.20 | gonkulator | that bitch |
| 21:07.19 | gonkulator | muf |
| 21:15.22 | gonkulator | well, I am off |
| 21:15.24 | gonkulator | take care everyone |
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| 22:59.21 | lurgyman | poop |
| 23:01.39 | darth_mall | what's up lurgyman |
| 23:12.59 | lurgyman | darth_mall: $45/month for internet? |
| 23:13.05 | lurgyman | darth_mall: $15/month for phone? |
| 23:17.14 | darth_mall | the cost of broadband depends on whether or not we get cable tv as well |
| 23:17.23 | scanline | the phone would be split between 3 people, and the internet between 6 |
| 23:17.31 | darth_mall | I pay 46 a month (split between 3 people) because we also have cable tv |
| 23:17.43 | darth_mall | w/o cable I think it's somewhere around 50-55 including modem rental |
| 23:17.52 | darth_mall | so, between 6 people it's pretty cheap |
| 23:17.58 | darth_mall | dunno bout the fone cuz we don't have a land line |
| 23:18.22 | darth_mall | but I am not opposed to it either |
| 23:19.37 | darth_mall | and that could probably be split between the 6 of us too |
| 23:19.40 | darth_mall | I think |
| 23:20.19 | scanline | I'm not going to use the TV much, but given that I'll probably use the net connection more than average I think it's fair |
| 23:20.47 | darth_mall | I don't use tv too much either |
| 23:20.54 | darth_mall | cept for videogames and movies |
| 23:20.57 | scanline | :) |
| 23:21.06 | scanline | hey, we'll have a good place to hook up a dreamcast and NES |
| 23:21.13 | scanline | =) |
| 23:21.40 | darth_mall | Dad used to have so many speakers |
| 23:24.16 | darth_mall | ack! you guys have corrupted my english! |
| 23:26.02 | scanline | :) |
| 23:27.36 | darth_mall | afk a sec, gonna heat up some food |
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| 23:40.50 | darth_mall | wb lurgyman |
| 23:54.39 | darth_mall | arg! |
| 23:55.51 | file | After having not seen each other in several years John says to Jim, "I have 3 sons. They are all less than ten years in age and are all of different ages. The product of the two younger brothers is equal to the age of the eldest brother. Also the sum of their ages is a prime number. How old is the eldest son?" |
| 23:56.40 | darth_mall | 10 |
| 23:56.42 | darth_mall | ? |
| 23:57.13 | darth_mall | or 6 |
| 23:57.47 | file | LOL |
| 23:57.53 | darth_mall | ? |
| 23:57.58 | file | I dunno |
| 23:58.01 | file | haven't figured it out yet. |
| 23:58.10 | file | working on a different question |
| 23:58.11 | darth_mall | is it <= 10 or < 10? |
| 23:58.30 | file | they are all less than ten years in age |
| 23:58.33 | file | so he can't be 10 |
| 23:58.37 | darth_mall | then the oldest is 6 |
| 23:58.46 | darth_mall | 2*3 = 6 2 |
| 23:58.52 | darth_mall | erm... 2*3=6 |
| 23:59.00 | darth_mall | 2+3+6=11 |
| 23:59.03 | darth_mall | 11 is prime |
| 23:59.17 | file | thought so |