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| 04:06.31 | KeyserSoze | anyone ever see "Zardoz"? |
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| 04:18.59 | scanline | KeyserSoze: are you serious? |
| 04:22.38 | scanline | hehe, this bootloader thingy is written in python |
| 04:23.03 | scanline | eww.. and it's in a .tar.gz without a subdirectory |
| 04:27.45 | KeyserSoze | scanline: yes, I was serious. why? |
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| 09:59.56 | *** topic/#picogui is http://picogui.org || If nobody here answers your question, try the pgui-devel mailing list || The new picogui.org is live! (occasionally) || http://www.cafeshops.com/picogui_store now with logo t-shirts, logo stickers, and guru() shirts || Is that an iguana or did someone just get some new light guns?||Download Nifty now! Is it not nifty? |
| 10:05.25 | scanline | holy cow |
| 10:05.43 | scanline | the setup I have now uses about 100ma continuous current, and who knows how much peak... |
| 10:05.55 | scanline | using a -yellow- LED that's not even pointed at the receiver, I get a signal |
| 10:07.36 | scanline | this will definitely do the trick |
| 10:08.09 | scanline | wow.. you can see the LED glow very faintly red while it's transmitting |
| 10:08.21 | scanline | and my eye hurts... |
| 10:08.26 | scanline | :) |
| 10:13.06 | captain_proton | =) |
| 10:14.04 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 10:14.21 | scanline | this isn't using anything to limit the current other than the internal resistance of the pic and the transistor :) |
| 10:14.35 | scanline | if we find it uses too much battery power we can cut down on the duty cycle |
| 10:15.29 | captain_proton | wow... |
| 10:15.39 | captain_proton | i could see it update the screen in mid-refresh now |
| 10:15.55 | captain_proton | for some reason i'm not recieving any light sensor signals when flashing the screen |
| 10:16.28 | scanline | tried varying the length of the flash? |
| 10:16.34 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 10:16.48 | captain_proton | right now i've got a 100usec delay while its white |
| 10:17.03 | captain_proton | i tried 1500 earlier |
| 10:17.09 | captain_proton | perhaps i'll try it at 30fps |
| 10:17.12 | scanline | try more like 30ms |
| 10:17.17 | scanline | it was designed for TV, after all |
| 10:18.12 | captain_proton | still no love |
| 10:18.13 | scanline | if we understood the sensor board better there might be a resistor or capacitor we could tweak to change the flash length it detects best |
| 10:18.16 | captain_proton | at 300ms |
| 10:18.25 | scanline | well, that might be too long |
| 10:18.38 | captain_proton | err |
| 10:18.40 | scanline | there's probably a range of lengths it will accept |
| 10:19.27 | captain_proton | well i think its bedtime for me |
| 10:19.36 | scanline | ok |
| 10:19.50 | scanline | I might as well go to bed too then, I hate soldering in the dark :P |
| 10:20.04 | scanline | you have to see how bright this transmitter is though |
| 10:29.15 | captain_proton | scanline: you should find the timing on your flasher |
| 10:29.19 | captain_proton | because we know that works |
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| 14:46.09 | file | hi all |
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| 17:17.15 | scanline | captain_proton: you should try delaying about 20ms between receiving the trigger signal and flashing |
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| 17:28.16 | ahnkana | wow |
| 17:28.22 | ahnkana | scanline is awake |
| 17:28.27 | ahnkana | did he not sleep |
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| 18:12.51 | merlin262 | woa, do you believe that CVS gaim has irc? |
| 18:12.54 | merlin262 | this is really nifty |
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| 18:13.15 | merlin262 | hey lalo[out] |
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| 18:41.39 | Xentac | lalo[out]: that's amazing... how do you connect when you're actually out? |
| 18:49.25 | file | hi Xentac |
| 18:49.31 | Xentac | hi file |
| 18:49.43 | file | my mom just did her tax return... so easy |
| 18:49.45 | file | that sucks |
| 18:50.35 | Xentac | I have to do mine too... but I'm going to wait till I have my T4 from my last co-op term |
| 18:50.44 | file | uh huh |
| 18:50.50 | file | Quicktax is so... easy |
| 18:50.54 | file | it's almost freaky |
| 18:50.59 | Xentac | hehehe |
| 18:51.08 | file | Before she added me on her return: $30 |
| 18:51.12 | file | After she added me: $1700 |
| 18:52.29 | Xentac | yup |
| 18:52.47 | file | why the large difference? |
| 18:53.20 | Xentac | dependants |
| 18:53.24 | file | aye |
| 18:54.14 | Xentac | yeah, I know... everyone your age is pretty sick ;o) |
| 18:54.19 | Xentac | scanline: you awake? |
| 18:54.21 | Xentac | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 18:54.21 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 1 hours, 3 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: sleeped [Sun Feb 23 04:59:15 2003] |
| 18:54.26 | Xentac | ah, guess not.. |
| 18:55.40 | scanline | I'm awake |
| 18:55.43 | scanline | lurgyman: you here? |
| 18:55.57 | scanline | lurgyman: what's the server address for the IRC network with all the babylon 5 and such? |
| 18:56.03 | Xentac | scanline: I have the last 4 red dwarf episodes... you want them? |
| 18:56.14 | scanline | Xentac: I thought I already had them? |
| 18:56.35 | scanline | oh, I seem to be missing series 8, episode 5 |
| 18:56.44 | scanline | and episode 2 |
| 18:57.01 | Xentac | scanline: there are 4... series 6 ep 4, series 7 ep 5, series 8 ep 2 and 5 |
| 18:57.43 | scanline | I'll take series 8 episode 5 |
| 18:57.53 | scanline | and 2 :) |
| 18:58.14 | Xentac | you have the other ones? |
| 18:58.25 | scanline | yeah |
| 18:58.34 | Xentac | where'd you get them from? |
| 18:58.50 | scanline | I got most of them from my roommate, last year |
| 18:59.16 | Xentac | yeah.. but you're sure you have the series 6 and series 7 ones? |
| 18:59.25 | Xentac | cause when I downloaded all of them off of you, they weren't in there |
| 19:01.17 | file | $13.95 USD for a 16MB AGP video card... |
| 19:01.22 | file | with shipping to Canada |
| 19:02.43 | lurgyman | scanline: the server is irc-chat.net |
| 19:03.32 | lurgyman | babylon5 = #babylon5-central |
| 19:03.40 | lurgyman | blakes7 = #blakes7-episodes |
| 19:03.53 | lurgyman | and there're probably some others that have interesting stuff in them |
| 19:03.59 | lurgyman | there's always stargate |
| 19:10.30 | scanline | ah, I forgot the hyphen |
| 19:10.31 | scanline | thanks |
| 19:10.36 | scanline | and good morning |
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| 19:12.45 | lurgyman | morning - |
| 19:14.20 | Xentac | scanline: just so you know... they're transfering now... very very slowly... |
| 19:14.33 | scanline | nothing I can do about that |
| 19:14.40 | Xentac | scanline: never said there was |
| 19:14.48 | Xentac | just saying that you shouldn't expect them anytime soon |
| 19:14.51 | Xentac | ;) |
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| 19:31.35 | ahnkana | meeep |
| 19:31.43 | ahnkana | female |
| 19:32.14 | ahnkana | roommate |
| 19:33.54 | scanline | spleep? |
| 19:34.02 | ahnkana | want to come? |
| 19:34.15 | ahnkana | natalie's roommate |
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| 19:38.23 | Xentac | Ang-lique: really? |
| 19:39.33 | Ang-lique | really |
| 19:39.49 | Xentac | strange... |
| 19:49.38 | lurgyman | invisible? |
| 19:50.31 | file | eh |
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| 19:53.29 | lurgyman | apparently, mr. and mrs. scanline are hee |
| 19:53.33 | lurgyman | s/hee/here/ |
| 19:53.42 | file | they are? |
| 19:57.15 | scanline | lurgyman or ahnkana: what is the address for these apartments? My parents want to drive by them, and you know how I am with direction memory... |
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| 20:00.13 | lurgyman | hmm... |
| 20:00.24 | lurgyman | well, they're on Canyon... |
| 20:00.31 | lurgyman | between folsom and broadway somewhere... |
| 20:00.35 | file | uh huh |
| 20:01.09 | lurgyman | on the "address" field of these forms, they have: |
| 20:01.13 | lurgyman | 2127 and 2133 |
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| 20:13.34 | KingSoopa | wow, picogui has gone retail? |
| 20:14.18 | file | since when? |
| 20:15.18 | KingSoopa | the e-store? |
| 20:15.26 | file | oh... |
| 20:15.34 | file | just shirts and stuff... nothing big |
| 20:15.51 | KingSoopa | that seems pretty big to me |
| 20:16.03 | KingSoopa | that would be like coming out with a "Soopa" branded clothing line |
| 20:16.12 | file | KingSoopa: even you could do it if you wanted... |
| 20:16.17 | file | that's what Cafepress is about |
| 20:16.21 | KingSoopa | really? |
| 20:16.31 | file | yes |
| 20:16.41 | file | you upload the images, and they print them out on the merchandise for you |
| 20:16.43 | file | and ship it... |
| 20:16.51 | KingSoopa | how much do you/would i get? |
| 20:17.49 | file | KingSoopa: there's a base price... |
| 20:17.55 | KingSoopa | ? |
| 20:17.55 | file | KingSoopa: you choose to up it... |
| 20:18.10 | file | there's a base price, you can't go lower than it |
| 20:18.15 | file | ie: $13 for a shirt (not really) |
| 20:18.23 | file | but if you wanted, you could sell your stuff for $13.50 |
| 20:18.43 | KingSoopa | oh |
| 20:18.57 | KingSoopa | wow, they are making a killing off merchandise then |
| 20:19.12 | file | the PicoGUI is all base price. |
| 20:19.16 | file | er PicoGUI store |
| 20:19.23 | KingSoopa | i meant cafepress |
| 20:19.34 | file | captain_proton: quite right |
| 20:19.38 | file | KingSoopa: uh huh |
| 20:19.53 | file | KingSoopa: free to setup a store... neat... |
| 20:20.31 | KingSoopa | heh, the wheels in my mind start turning... |
| 20:20.38 | KingSoopa | a dangerous passtime i know. |
| 20:20.46 | file | lol |
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| 20:24.16 | KingSoopa | heheheh |
| 20:24.27 | KingSoopa | it is soooooo hard returning into the school frame of mind |
| 20:24.45 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen ahnkana |
| 20:24.45 | PicoBot | ahnkana was last seen on #picogui 50 minutes and 30 seconds ago, saying: natalie's roommate [Sun Feb 23 06:42:42 2003] |
| 20:31.41 | Xentac | njs: 5? |
| 20:31.44 | Xentac | ;) |
| 20:32.31 | captain_proton | gonkulator: she's here watching blakes7 with us |
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| 21:09.53 | TD | quick c question, as #c is quiet.... |
| 21:10.15 | TD | if i have a pointer to uint var, is !var == true when the pointer == null? |
| 21:10.55 | Xentac | TD: good question |
| 21:11.03 | Xentac | scanline probably knows though |
| 21:11.47 | Xentac | my suggestion would be to write a little test program ;o) |
| 21:11.50 | Xentac | and then tell me the answer... |
| 21:14.00 | TD | apparently it does |
| 21:14.04 | TD | not very clear though is it |
| 21:14.32 | Xentac | so the ! is evaluated on the pointer, instead of on the * of the pointer |
| 21:14.42 | Xentac | that's what I figured, but I wasn't sure |
| 21:14.50 | TD | yeah |
| 21:14.58 | TD | !null == true i guess |
| 21:15.06 | TD | i'm a c newbie |
| 21:15.09 | Xentac | yeah, it is |
| 21:15.25 | Xentac | null, in every case that I know of, is essentially 0 |
| 21:16.37 | njs | #define NULL (void*)0 |
| 21:17.06 | njs | the only reason to use NULL instead of 0 is to possibly avoid some casting warnings; they're both 0. |
| 21:19.42 | njs | it's perfectly clear; pointers are really just integers, and like all integers, are true when non-zero, false when zero. |
| 21:22.26 | file | Access to brain denied. |
| 21:22.34 | file | Higher level brain functions suspended. |
| 21:25.59 | TD | what's the command to break into the debugger? |
| 21:26.34 | TD | njs: yeah, i'm used to object pascal where nil was an explicit type |
| 21:26.39 | TD | or at least, you never bothered casting it |
| 21:27.38 | njs | TD: yeah, I'm not sure how necessary it actually is to use NULL in modern C; I know that in C++, it's explicitly discouraged (you should just write 0 instead). |
| 21:27.55 | TD | hmm |
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| 23:23.24 | file | hi Xentac |
| 23:23.28 | Xentac | hi file |
| 23:23.42 | file | what's up? |
| 23:23.47 | Xentac | not too much |
| 23:23.55 | file | oh ic |
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| 23:33.25 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen ahnkana |
| 23:33.26 | PicoBot | ahnkana was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 59 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: natalie's roommate [Sun Feb 23 06:42:42 2003] |
| 23:33.32 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen captain_proton |
| 23:33.32 | PicoBot | captain_proton was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 1 minutes and 2 seconds ago, saying: gonkulator: she's here watching blakes7 with us [Sun Feb 23 07:40:58 2003] |
| 23:33.48 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen scanline |
| 23:33.48 | PicoBot | scanline was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 36 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: lurgyman or ahnkana: what is the address for these apartments? My parents want to drive by them, and you know how I am with direction memory... [Sun Feb 23 07:05:42 2003] |
| 23:33.50 | gonkulator | hi file |
| 23:33.59 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen darth_mall |
| 23:34.00 | PicoBot | darth_mall was last seen on #picogui 1 days, 1 hours, 45 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: is away: going home [Sat Feb 22 08:57:24 2003] |
| 23:34.06 | file | what's up? |
| 23:34.18 | file | who? |
| 23:34.19 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen lurgyman |
| 23:34.19 | PicoBot | lurgyman was last seen on #picogui 12 minutes and 11 seconds ago, saying: pokes gonk{work} [Sun Feb 23 10:30:36 2003] |
| 23:34.30 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen Ang-lique |
| 23:34.30 | PicoBot | Ang-lique was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 54 minutes and 59 seconds ago, saying: really [Sun Feb 23 06:47:59 2003] |
| 23:34.40 | gonkulator | file: anyone in boulder |
| 23:34.45 | file | lol |
| 23:35.02 | file | :( |
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| 23:38.08 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 23:38.30 | gonkulator | PicoBot: seen ahnkana |
| 23:38.31 | PicoBot | ahnkana was last seen on #picogui 4 hours, 4 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying: natalie's roommate [Sun Feb 23 06:42:42 2003] |
| 23:38.33 | gonkulator | damn |
| 23:38.35 | file | mmm... ice cream |
| 23:39.11 | file | would you like some ice cream gonkulator? |
| 23:39.33 | gonkulator | file: no thanks, I would be satisfied to hear from someone |
| 23:40.04 | file | PicoBot: seen ahnkana_ |
| 23:40.04 | PicoBot | ahnkana_ was last seen on #picogui 23 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: is hungry [Sun Feb 23 10:25:06 2003] |
| 23:40.05 | Xentac | gonkulator: set up an h323 conference program on navi, and let us all connect to it |
| 23:40.09 | file | :) |
| 23:41.21 | gonkulator | file: thanks :) |
| 23:41.58 | gonkulator | bugger... |
| 23:42.25 | gonkulator | well, I should be on my way up, and if I don't make it all the way up in time, or find anyone, I'll come home |
| 23:42.38 | gonkulator | captain_proton: I expect to be up around 6:40 |
| 23:42.56 | gonkulator | captain_proton: I hope that isn't too late to leave for Jen's concert |
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