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00:13.11carpmanwatching Zim is good.
00:13.13gonk{work}well, time to go home and do homework
00:13.15gonk{work}later everyone
00:13.21carpmanbye gonk{work}
00:13.24fileI can see it, see it in your eyes
00:13.28fileI can feel, yes it feels so nice
00:14.02carpmanGIR! Get away from that power amplifier, your generating deadly waves of... stupid!
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00:15.45filecaptain_proton: what's up?
00:15.49fileer carpman: what's up
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00:32.37darth_mallwhat's up captain_proton
00:33.43captain_protondarth_mall: jen wants to know if you have your heart set on the sushi thing - seeing as there's already a line
00:33.48captain_protonand only 14 spots
00:34.11darth_mallmeh
00:37.15darth_mallcaptain_proton: have you put that music up?
00:37.28captain_protonnope
00:38.00captain_protonhttp://bzflag.net:3000/public.e17a/music/Cirque_du_Soleil will get you there though
00:39.41darth_malloh, cool
00:39.42darth_mallthnx
00:44.39Xentaccaptain_proton: uploaded a new version of that red dwarf episode?
00:46.54captain_protonum
00:46.54captain_protonnope
00:47.32carpmanw00t! The Guild is doing the LAN party at AnimeFEST
00:47.46Xentacit's not a high priority... but realize that I'll be bugging you till it's up ;o)
00:47.57filecarpman: webcam?
00:48.08carpmanfile: if we can get a network connection
00:48.15filecarpman: demand one!
00:48.28carpmanfile: I would probably get it then, but I'd have to pay for it. :)
00:48.36filecarpman: nooooooooooooooo
00:49.10carpmanand seeing as how I'll probably be paying for Ryo-Ohki, I'll be on a bit of a budget. :)
00:49.54file:\
00:50.13darth_mallok, time to go make some dinner
00:50.16carpmanoh, but this 300ZX is going to be sooo coooool
00:55.38fileXentac: what's up?
00:55.57Xentacnot too much
00:56.14fileoh ic
00:57.00Xentacyou?
00:57.18filewaiting for 9PM to creep up so I can see what's on.
01:23.17merlin262carpman: looks like school is going to be cancelled tommorow too. :D
01:23.47Xentacmerlin262: school called on account of snow... in texas...
01:25.18fileI think Bill Gates is behind it
01:25.29filehe created a weather machine controlled by Windows and it screwed up
01:26.13merlin262something about that last statement put me in a mood to play C&C 2
01:27.18Xentacmerlin262: interesting...
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01:44.31scanlinehah
01:44.39darth_iBookhi scanline
01:44.44scanlinehi darth_iBook
01:45.22darth_iBookhow're you?
01:48.26darth_iBookyay for law and order
01:51.47darth_iBookgrrr, I need a working internet browser
01:52.13carpmandarth_iBook: lynx
01:52.58darth_iBookyeah, but I want one that has pictures ^_^
01:53.10Xentacdarth_iBook: w3m
01:53.26darth_iBookthat's what I'm using right now
01:53.48darth_iBookoh
01:53.51darth_iBookack, wrong window
01:54.29carpmanI've gone mad. I can make an AoF storage client in emacs lisp.
01:54.46Xentaccarpman: ah... but do you want to?
01:55.00carpmanYes, thats why I've gone mad. I'm going to code in lisp.
01:55.19Xentachehehe
01:55.23XentacI see now
01:55.37carpmanBut, I'll be able to access an AoF storage just like a file system.
02:00.56invader_zimhahaha
02:01.32Xentaccarpman: what is AoF again...?
02:01.38fileXentac: HOW DARE YOU!
02:01.51carpmanXentac: Arsenal of Freedom. It's the data engine I've been working on.
02:01.58invader_zimcarpman/merlin262: scanline's roommate is from dallas, so when i went upstairs to make fun of you guys, and of all texans, he got all defensive and it was really funny
02:02.02fileXentac: my mind is messed up
02:02.02Xentaccarpman: what's so special about it...?
02:02.26invader_zimfile: what did you think AoF was?
02:02.39fileinvader_zim: I don't think, I act.
02:02.50invader_zimwhat did you act AoF was
02:02.57fileInvalid sentence.
02:03.04invader_zimyour point?
02:03.11carpmaninvader_zim: please, make fun of texas. I hate it.
02:03.14filepoint not found - please install purpose.
02:03.38invader_zimi am from texas....sort of, so me making fun of texans......
02:03.45invader_zimI DO IT WITH ZEAL
02:03.48filecarpman: Detonation circuits malfunctioning.
02:03.49invader_zimhehe
02:04.39Xentacfile: so why is your mind messed up?
02:04.49fileXentac: bad cold is getting worse
02:05.12Xentacah, ok
02:05.18Xentaccarpman: so... what's different about AoF?
02:05.31fileXentac: what's up?
02:05.40Xentacfile: didn't you already ask me that?
02:05.45fileXentac: I don't remember
02:05.46Xentacand I mentioned something about AI and you went silent...
02:06.00invader_zimmeeep
02:06.02invader_zimhw time
02:06.17fileThe Wrath of Khan is on
02:06.37carpmanXentac: well, it's written in python, its totaly event driven, it can communicate over almost any protocol, and it can cluster with any number of other AoF servers to do distributed computing and storage.
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02:07.41Xentacis it just for storage? or also for computation?
02:07.55carpmanXentac: for anything. Its a framework, you put modules into it to do things.
02:09.15carpmanit has a built in storage object, and just about anything can store to it, like the Zope killing web object stuff I wrote. It would be cool to be able to edit stuff in the storage directly in stead of downloading and re-uploading.
02:31.59carpmanDamn.. I love my job... my boss just sent this...
02:32.01carpmanStay warm and snug in your houses
02:32.01carpmanWith all your family, friends, and fluffy cowses.
02:32.01carpmanWe'll call you after noontime if we need too
02:32.01carpman'till then don't get out.  You'll turn blue.
02:32.01carpmanWe want you safe and your cars dent free
02:32.02carpmanPlease, please take heed.
02:32.04carpmanIn your houses safe and warm
02:32.07carpmanWe want you to ride out the storm.
02:32.08carpmanThe highway will allow no passage
02:32.10carpmanWithout the risk of painful smashage.
02:32.12carpmanTake heed! Stay in! If things improve,
02:32.14carpmanYou'll hear at noon. 'Till then, don't move.
02:34.07invader_zimlol
02:34.14invader_zimhe should not quit his day job
02:35.24carpmanno. He does alot better coding. :)
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02:36.55invader_zimlol
02:36.56darth_mallraise your hand if I missed me?
02:37.23invader_zimi missed me, but i don't miss you
02:37.30invader_zimi love this show
02:37.32carpmanI Loved you piggy! I loved you!
02:38.05carpmanI also miss the cupcake
02:40.20g-i-ryay for zim
02:41.22g-i-roh, my bees
02:44.41g-i-rI miss you cupcake
02:58.42carpman"Out of fuel. How?!"
02:58.48carpman"I emptied it out."
02:58.56carpman"Emptied it out, WHY?!?!"
02:59.05carpman"For the tuna!"
03:19.30g-i-rtime for a quick shower, Hi Dire
03:19.40Direhowdy
03:19.59Direheh
03:39.23Xentacscanline: you're not going to get it all...?
03:40.56carpmanwell, night all
04:22.29g-i-rare you there captain_proton?
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04:36.51g-i-rarg! where is gonulator
05:53.10merlin262hmmmm, everyone is asleep
05:53.20merlin262hehe
05:58.12hardwireA ShnozzBerry is what you eat when you snort your nose too hard..
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06:03.22Xentachey kidder
06:08.07captain_protonscanline: wake up!
06:12.39kidderhey
06:14.09Xentackidder: tell Abby she forgot her test
06:17.35kidderdo you have it?
06:18.10kidderwhat was that beach we were at last week?
06:19.26XentacI do
06:20.05captain_protonoh my beloved daddy, i love him, yes iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii do
06:20.07kiddershe'll get it tomorow abby says thank you
06:20.12XentacIsland View?
06:20.25kidderyes thats it
06:20.57kidderok night
06:21.04Xentacta ta
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09:01.47captain_protonif it makes the baby red, its too hot for your elbow
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10:07.26bigthorhi
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11:45.07filehi
11:45.49lalogood morning
11:45.56filehow are you lalo?
11:46.01lalogreat,thanks
11:46.07lalohow about you?
11:46.15fileso-so
11:46.55filewishing I didn't have school today
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14:25.14gonkulatoribot: hi
14:25.14niihau, gonkulator
14:25.28gonkulator~sud
14:25.29shut up doug
14:26.03gonkulator~lart cheese
14:26.56gonkulator~lart nobody
14:27.04fraggletyay doom
14:27.33gonkulatorhi g-i-r
14:28.07gonkulatorthe UPS on my firewall lasted 24 minutes!
14:28.21gonkulatorwhich was the duration of the power outtage
14:29.10gonkulator<PROTECTED>
14:29.21gonkulatoroops..
14:29.27gonkulatorsorry bout dat
14:29.38fraggletheh
14:33.14fraggleti have a 5 foot high box full of polystyrene packing foam and i'm not sure what to do with it
14:35.02g-i-rwell time for school
14:36.18gonkulatorfragglet: good luck
14:53.13balorscanline: Where's the link to the PicoGUI/GTK screenie
15:06.43scanlinebalor: I just posted it- http://old.picogui.org/download/picogtk.png
15:17.50scanlineUgh... User Friendly has completely sold out
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15:50.49merlin262good morning carpman
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15:52.26invader_zimmeeep
15:54.01carpmanmorning merlin262
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15:54.30merlin262kewl
16:02.57darth_iBookhello all
16:03.01darth_iBookanyone awakeski?
16:03.23merlin262no
16:03.29darth_iBookack
16:04.12merlin262hehe
16:27.03fragglethmm
16:27.21fragglethappiness is a piece of fresh warm bread
16:33.03PuckChhi scanline
16:33.08scanlinehi PuckCh
16:33.32PuckChi have themec which segfault on my sparc linux. :-(
16:33.54scanlinehmm.. captain_proton and I were seeing themec segfault on IRIX, but we didn't track down the problem yet
16:34.37PuckChi have found where, but has I don't known a lot about yacc, this is difficult to correct.
16:35.14PuckChbut i'm trying anyway
16:35.27scanlinegood luck
16:35.44PuckChthanks.
16:36.07carpmanmm... IRIX
16:36.38carpmanscanline: were building up quite a collection of hardware at work for AoF testing. We might be able to use it in the off hours for testing PicoGUI on multiple OSes
16:37.01gonk{work}my ear feels funny...
16:37.16carpmangonk{work}: you should probably get it looked at.
16:37.25gonk{work}ow, it just fell off
16:37.28gonk{work}bbiab
16:37.34carpman...
16:40.14gonk{work}lurgyman: Hey Dan!
16:40.48darth_iBookdan is here gonk{work}
16:41.00darth_iBookhere being fizix
16:41.31carpmanfizix, the study of carbonated drinks?
16:41.43gonk{work}darth_iBook: say to him "hey Dan" for me
16:41.51gonk{work}and let me know what he says
16:43.15darth_iBookgonk{work}: <lurgyman> pineapple
16:44.40invader_zimjimmy!!!
16:44.59darth_iBookjimmy?
16:45.34invader_zimyes, i have replaced gir with an updated modell
16:45.34gonk{work}Johnny :)
16:45.41invader_zimno jimmmy
16:45.55carpmanJTHM?
16:48.30darth_iBookyay for Johnny
16:48.43darth_iBookthey are funny
16:48.57darth_iBookoooh
16:49.08darth_iBookmy friend AJ had a bunch
16:49.09carpmannow I need to get the Squee book.
16:49.11darth_iBookI read some
16:49.22darth_iBookand also Oh My Goth
16:49.36invader_zimgoodbye my future human slaves.....i shall return!
16:49.45darth_iBookbut my OMGoth graphic novel seems to have disappeared
16:49.50carpmanLEAVE NO EVIDENCE!!!
16:50.01darth_iBookTACOS!
16:50.59darth_iBookwell, class is over
16:51.02darth_iBooklates all
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17:06.01darth_iBookoooh resume
17:06.09lalo[out]you're writing a resume?
17:06.12scanlineI think it's done, but I can never be sure about these things...
17:06.22scanlinelalo[out]: yeah, was planning on going to the summer internship fair todauy
17:06.24scanlineerr, today
17:06.40lalo[out]resumes are never good enough :-) they're governed by Murphy
17:10.14scanlinehttp://old.picogui.org/download/micah_dowty.resume.pdf
17:11.22lalo[out]btw, what about the picogtk thing?
17:11.38scanlineI haven't seen the code yet, BigThor said he'd send it when it's cleaned up a bit
17:12.27lalo[out]but you have any idea what it looks like? it's a library?
17:12.36scanlineI think it's a modified copy of gtk
17:14.12lalo[out]I want to see it :-)
17:16.07lalo[out]kiwi is dead?
17:16.43scanlineas far as I know
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17:18.56lalo[out]dyi pdas are an interesting topic :-)
17:19.00lalo[out]diy
17:19.03scanlineindeed
17:19.18darth_iBookscanline: did you ever get picogui running on a palm pilot?
17:19.26scanlinethe hardest part is always finding the right components in small quantities though...
17:19.47lalo[out]darth_iBook: I don't think that's doable unless you have the mods to run linux
17:20.11scanlinedarth_iBook: didn't really try... picogui runs on other devices with the same CPU and similar peripherals, but there hasn't been much interest in the palm devices
17:20.13darth_iBooklalo[out]: but it is possible to run linux on a palm?
17:20.17lalo[out]palmOS has a very fucked up hardwired idea of "application/window management" and graphic access
17:20.22lalo[out]possible, yes ;-) not easy
17:20.26darth_iBookah
17:20.33lalo[out]you need a replacement board able to boot from flash
17:20.45scanlineSome of the palms are reflashable, but it's still a pain
17:21.02lalo[out]reflashable doesn't help here
17:21.03scanlineand since there are newer PDAs out there, most developers don't care enough to finish the linux port to the palm
17:21.15darth_iBookoki
17:21.26lalo[out]because the "boot-up" part of the OS isn't reflashed, IIRC
17:21.50scanlinewell, there's also a project that boots linux from RAM, using a small PalmOS app
17:22.03scanlinemy palm III doesn't have enough RAM for that though
17:22.04lalo[out]but there is a small rom board you can buy for a few bucks, and then it runs linux
17:22.17lalo[out]now that would be interesting :-)
17:22.39darth_iBookhehe, I tried to look at ebay on lynx, that's kinda tough
17:23.24lalo[out]w3m is reported to be better
17:23.36lalo[out]and perhaps links but I never tried
17:24.43darth_iBookis zaurus spelled like that? or with an x?
17:24.55scanline'zaurus' is right
17:24.58darth_iBookkk
17:28.15darth_iBookis $103 a good price?
17:28.24scanlinefor a zaurus!?
17:28.35darth_iBookthat was the current bid on ebay for one
17:28.38scanlinewow
17:28.43darth_iBookor maybe it was $106
17:28.47scanline5000D or 5500?
17:28.52darth_iBookor could buy now for 319
17:29.02darth_iBookdon't remember hang on
17:29.55darth_iBooksl-5500
17:29.59scanlineneat
17:31.01darth_iBookwow, the current bid on this one is 85
17:32.06darth_iBookscanline: I take it that is worth the money
17:32.18scanlineif you need a PDA, yeah
17:32.30scanlinethey were $350 new
17:32.33darth_iBookhow about if I want a PDA, but don't 'need' one per se ^_^
17:32.38scanlinewell, that too :)
17:32.43darth_iBookneed is such a subjective term
17:32.57darth_iBookhow long does it take to set up a paypal account?
17:33.43scanlinenot long.. it's like setting up a yahoo account, except that you give them your credit card number
17:33.53darth_iBookoki
17:34.56lurgymanmorning scanline
17:35.04darth_iBooklurgyman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:35.16lurgymandarth_iBook
17:35.18lurgyman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:35.57scanlinehmm
17:36.13scanlinewas anybody here interested in going to the internship fair also?
17:36.28lurgymaninternship fair? hmmmmm....
17:36.33lurgymanwhen?
17:36.36scanlineI guess captain_proton is still asleep...
17:36.40lurgymanyep huh
17:36.46scanlinelurgyman: from about 1.5 hours ago to 3:00 PM today
17:37.42darth_iBooklol
17:37.51lurgymanif lurgyman finishes his work before noon, maybe... otherwise will be in class
17:39.50scanlineuh oh
17:40.25scanlinenoats?
17:40.26scanline:)
17:40.47gonk{work}lurgyman: can I read your store-e
17:41.17lurgymanin the meantime...
17:44.39darth_iBookoki, time to go eat some lunch
18:34.18carpmanI HATE ZOPE!!!1
18:34.23carpmanHATEHATEHATEHATE!!!
18:34.25carpmanARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:34.52carpmanThe damn DateTime object spontaniously decided to change how it operates.
18:35.09gonk{work}sounds like a feature
18:35.20carpmanIt broke an object I had written, so I just spent the last 2 hours fixing it.
18:35.35carpmanYeah, well they can feature this!
18:36.30carpmanHow a sane language tells you there is an error in your code.
18:36.40carpman"Error on line <line>"
18:36.47carpmanHow zope tells you there is an error.
18:36.48carpman"Error"
18:36.52kergothhah
18:36.58kergoththats so .. microsoft
18:37.03carpmanI know.
18:38.01carpmanMy co-workers don't make it any better, either. This is the e-mail I got.
18:38.06carpman"I was going to use the table editor to delete the test data in the volunteer and donor databases, but I'm getting error messages from Zope. I was able to delete some records from the volunteer database--the ones that remain in the database are those I couldn't delete. I haven't been able to delete any record from the donor database, and the error message is different."
18:38.23carpmanthats all
18:39.34kergothhah
18:39.42kergotherror messages .. then .. different error messages
18:39.44kergothhow helpful
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19:04.01hardwireyay
19:07.54hikke:o
19:08.06hikkeMy friend bought one this week too
19:33.13scanlineI've been wanting to try one of those
19:39.38hardwiremy computer is a sounding board ATM
19:39.47hardwirethe glass table in the living room is pretty neat
19:39.55hardwireI think people at the racketball courts are gonna hate me
19:40.22hardwireI was using my skull earlier
19:40.26hardwiremouth open
19:40.28hardwiremouth closed
19:40.28hardwireheheh
19:40.39scanlinehaha
19:40.41hardwirebe a lot better if I was bald
19:43.02hardwirepretty impressive
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19:43.44filebigthor: congrats
19:43.50hardwirefile: congrats
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20:03.01gonk{work}w00t
20:03.18gonk{work}scanline: I just got an OpenGL program to do almost exactly what I want it to!
20:03.23scanlinehehe
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20:05.52gonk{work}scanline: I almost have it doing what I want it to do!
20:06.05darth_iBookgonk{work}: is this jurpa you speak of?
20:06.55gonk{work}darth_iBook: no, this is an assignment
20:07.00darth_iBookoh
20:07.27gonk{work}scanline: am I invited to said party?
20:07.35scanlinehowdy partener
20:10.18gonk{work}darth_iBook: soon, it will be jurpa I speak of :)
20:10.59scanlineI think I need a neural net for this...
20:12.26scanlinehehe, fuzzy logic is neat
20:12.42scanlinethis XOR function just output 0.98
20:13.13gonk{work}whoa...
20:13.22gonk{work}so it was only 98% different?
20:13.29scanline[0, 0] -> [0.017008705443512215]
20:13.30scanline[0, 1] -> [0.98542053416461728]
20:13.30scanline[1, 0] -> [0.98594805629571702]
20:13.30scanline[1, 1] -> [0.013750532109474941]
20:13.36scanlineplaying with a neural net demo in python
20:14.10hardwireand put the soundbug on it
20:14.14scanlinemmmm
20:15.57gonk{work}hardwire: what about a BASS DRUM :)
20:16.10hardwirebasically :)
20:16.19hardwiremy friend ToyKeeper has a drum set
20:16.24hardwireand a little drum circle drum
20:16.28hardwirethis should be loud
20:18.53hardwirethey are pretty cheap
20:19.19hardwirehttp://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/5a15/
20:19.58gonk{work}scanline: want to go halves on it?
20:20.01gonk{work}it is only 30 bucks
20:20.12hardwireactually
20:20.17scanlineI am very broke at the moment, so no
20:20.18hardwireif you go halves.. might as well get stereo :)
20:20.30hardwireit has a port for another sound bug for the right channel
20:23.42gonk{work}scanline: want to see some really ugly ass OpenGL code?
20:23.49scanlineno
20:24.13gonk{work}phew :)
20:38.09scanlinewhat format do those usually come in these days... flat?
20:38.16gonk{work}scanline: nested
20:38.21scanlinecrispy
20:38.26captain_protoni've sent out flat text to everyone
20:42.16hardwireheheheh
20:43.03hardwireI have a bunch of smooooth carbon fiber coasters we made out of a test mold.. hooked the soundbug to it and I have a somewhat lower dynamic range than usual.. but I can atleast put the soundbug up against a speckled wall now
20:43.08hardwirewith the coaster in the middle
20:43.12hardwireman.. that annoyed my roomate
20:43.17carpmanhaha
20:43.33hardwire"Augh, ITS LOUD!"
20:47.50carpmanSegmentation Fault
20:49.27gonk{work}not quite...
20:51.27gonk{work}purr fukt
20:52.01ahnkanaarghghhaeklejsdf
20:54.01gonk{work}well, time to go nail a test to my toes
20:55.37hardwire?
21:08.28hardwirehttp://www.holosonics.com/technology.html
21:08.31hardwireneet
21:13.59*** join/#picogui hunger (foobar@pD954AA4F.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:14.08hungerHi!
21:14.16hungerDo you have any docs on the new website?
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21:23.21g-i-rlalala
21:33.39hardwiregah.. 5.5 megs for an outline of all of the earths continents
21:35.12hardwirethanks to using fixed point verts and delta encoding polylines... its actually much smaller
21:35.18hardwire3 megs now
21:35.18hardwirewoo
21:35.23hardwirehappy happy joy joy
21:49.21hungerI can't build picogui (fresh from CVS.
21:49.31hungermake[3]: Entering directory `/home/hunger/c/picogui/pgserver/BUILD/include/pgserver'
21:49.31hungersed "s/.*//g" ../../../config.in | \
21:49.31hunger<PROTECTED>
21:49.31hunger<PROTECTED>
21:49.31hungerset: 65: Illegal option -h
21:49.36hungerAny hints?
22:51.47hungerCan somebody please help me build picogui?
22:53.30hungerWhere can I get the sources? The new homepage does not have a link to that IIRC.
22:53.43hungers/IIRC/AFAIKT/
22:57.57g-i-rw00t! calc done
22:59.17g-i-rsnack time
23:02.39g-i-ryay for pbj
23:06.07hardwireheheh
23:15.33*** join/#picogui dominic (~dominic@204.101.119.138)
23:15.35dominichi
23:15.40hungerhi
23:15.57dominicanyone tell me (embeded) hardware that i can run pgui on
23:17.17dominici need something that i can buy off the shelf and run pgui on
23:17.34hungerdominic: The Zaurus can run picogui afaik.
23:17.58dominichunger: nothing less expensive ?
23:18.27hungerdominic: I don't know what picogui runs on.
23:18.39hungerdominic: I'm just wanting to build it for the first time.
23:18.51kergothheh, the Z isnt expensive, the 5500 can be obtained for like ~200-250
23:19.04hungerHi kergoth!
23:19.16kergothyo hunger, hows it goin
23:19.45hungerkergoth: I'm trying to build picogui and am failing since my bash is no bash according to configure.
23:19.55kergothhah
23:19.59kergothauto* is evil
23:20.26hungerkergoth: Yeah! We all know.
23:20.47kergoth:)
23:25.13hungerDamit! set -f -h works.
23:25.27hungerRunning configscript/Configure it fails!
23:35.19hungerARG!
23:35.55hungerYou must have sh point to bash! Just having bash installed is *NOT* enough.
23:36.37hungerWhere can I report bugs?
23:41.48*** join/#picogui gonkulator (~brandon@17.255.240.122)
23:41.52gonkulatorPicoBot: seen scanline
23:41.53PicoBotscanline was last seen on #picogui 3 hours, 3 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying: follows captain_proton` [Wed Feb 26 07:47:40 2003]
23:42.18gonkulatorPicoBot: seen invader_zim
23:42.18PicoBotinvader_zim was last seen on #picogui 6 hours, 52 minutes and 44 seconds ago, saying: goodbye my future human slaves.....i shall return! [Wed Feb 26 03:58:30 2003]
23:43.48gonkulatorPicoBot: seen fragglet
23:43.49PicoBotfragglet was last seen on #picogui 7 hours, 16 minutes and 31 seconds ago, saying: happiness is a piece of fresh warm bread [Wed Feb 26 03:36:14 2003]
23:43.52gonkulator:)
23:43.59gonkulatorPicoBot: seen KeyserSoze
23:43.59PicoBotKeyserSoze was last seen on #picogui 1 days, 21 hours, 11 minutes and 8 seconds ago, saying: on second thought, skip the electric field sensors. [Mon Feb 24 13:41:47 2003]
23:44.05KeyserSozehi
23:44.24hungerHow do I build the apps?
23:45.04hungerMake fails to find picogui.h
23:45.18KeyserSozedid you follow all the instructions?
23:45.27KeyserSozelemme find the link...
23:45.35hungerKeyserSoze: Dunno:-)
23:45.51hungerKeyserSoze: I tried to follow the INSTALL files.
23:46.14KeyserSozeyou have to make the server first, and then install it.
23:46.23hungerKeyserSoze: I did.
23:46.43KeyserSozeyou did "make install" for pgserver, and it succeeded?
23:46.47hungerKeyserSoze: Do I need to install it into /usr/local? I set $DESTDIR to move it away.
23:47.13KeyserSozeif it's not in /usr/local, maybe that's why picogui.h cannot be found.
23:47.33hungerKeyserSoze: There is no picogui.h in the place picogui installed to.
23:47.42KeyserSozei have picogui.h in /usr/local/include
23:47.43hungerKeyserSoze: I may not install into /usr/local.
23:48.00KeyserSozei don't know what step actually put picogui.h in /usr/local/include, though.
23:48.44KeyserSozehere's what i followed when i installed: http://old.picogui.org/wiki/view/Main/BuildingAndConfiguring
23:49.12KeyserSozeNOTE: Now that cli_c and themetools don't have their own copy of the picogui headers, you'll need to install pgserver or just copy the headers to /usr/local/include to compile cli_c and themetools.
23:49.48hungerAh! I need cli_c.
23:49.54hungerNow, where can I get that?
23:50.06KeyserSozeyou should have it already.
23:50.41KeyserSozein whatever directory has "apps" and "pgserver", there should be a "cli_c"
23:51.01KeyserSoze(and about 5 other cli_X, if you have a recent copy of picogui)
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23:54.17gonkey{iBook}w00t
23:54.28KeyserSozeback from where?
23:54.31filegonkey{iBook}: where did it go?
23:54.34gonkey{iBook}apple
23:54.39gonkey{iBook}the screen konked out on me
23:54.40filehow is it?
23:54.52gonkey{iBook}it works
23:55.02filegonkey{iBook}: how many times has it been to Apple? it must have a frequent flyers mile account by now
23:55.43gonkey{iBook}file: this is the second time
23:56.05file:)
23:57.12gonkey{iBook}anyway, time to go
23:57.15filek

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