| 03:12:51 | razzer | anyone awake? |
| 03:13:02 | | razzer: sorry... |
| 03:13:02 | razzer | ibot Tader |
| 03:13:18 | | razzer: excuse me? |
| 03:13:18 | razzer | ibot have you seen Tader[Away] |
| 04:21:20 | razzer | damnits i everyone asleep? |
| 11:09:47 | ctr | is away: stuff |
| 13:03:03 | ctr | is away: shower/lunch/tv |
| 15:09:51 | inertia | heya guys |
| 15:09:53 | inertia | how you doing? |
| 15:10:26 | inertia | is anyone able to give me a quick hand with something? |
| 15:11:05 | inertia | just something general linux - nothign particularly complex |
| 15:11:32 | inertia | hellp |
| 15:11:39 | inertia | :S |
| 15:20:44 | inertia | Guys - is tehre actually anyone there? |
| 15:26:04 | inertia | clearly there is noone about :S |
| 15:26:36 | inertia | oh well... hehe |
| 15:26:45 | inertia | I guess Ill catch people when they wake up . |
| 15:26:56 | Tangent | inertia : I'm around... |
| 15:26:58 | Tangent | vaguely |
| 15:27:11 | Tangent | What's the problem? |
| 15:29:53 | Tangent | inertia : Hrm.. I guess you must have gone :( |
| 17:03:41 | inertia | heya .. |
| 17:03:47 | inertia | you there tangent? |
| 17:04:26 | inertia | well infact - is there anyone around |
| 17:04:27 | inertia | ? |
| 17:15:54 | inertia | d'oh! |
| 18:40:54 | razzer | hey |
| 18:41:35 | ungrzna | hi |
| 18:41:38 | Tangent | razzer : Evening |
| 18:41:52 | razzer | hey mate |
| 18:41:57 | razzer | hows things? |
| 18:42:50 | Tangent | razzer : Oh.. pretty good... having a day of messing with StrongArm stuff today |
| 18:43:38 | razzer | you brewing a distro? |
| 18:43:59 | Tangent | razzer : Already have one... intimate.handhelds.org is my baby |
| 18:44:19 | razzer | what kinda state is it at? |
| 18:44:42 | Tangent | razzer : It's been working for the last 12 months... |
| 18:44:54 | Tangent | razzer : Check the screenshots page |
| 18:45:00 | razzer | wait a mo', what platform is it for? |
| 18:45:15 | Tangent | ipaq, tuxscreen and almost for the psion |
| 18:45:34 | Tangent | razzer : It's a little on the large side for my psion... |
| 18:45:41 | razzer | almost? whats stoppping it from working? |
| 18:45:55 | Tangent | Laziness on my part |
| 18:46:08 | Tangent | razzer : I booted it up a couple of months back, and it was all fine... |
| 18:46:34 | Tangent | didn't actually try the X server at the time, but I know people who enjoy tweaking xserver code and recompiling it, so that wouldn't be a problem |
| 18:46:55 | razzer | hmm I would like to see x running as thats whats stopping psilinux taking off |
| 18:47:09 | razzer | a console just isnt enough |
| 18:47:21 | razzer | and picogui hasnt the apps to use by default |
| 18:47:24 | Tangent | razzer : Let me find you some files to mess with... |
| 18:47:53 | razzer | huzzah :) |
| 18:49:07 | Tangent | http://intimate.handhelds.org/installer/randr/Xipaq |
| 18:49:17 | Tangent | Here's the familiar X server.... |
| 18:49:28 | Tangent | give that a try on your iPAQ |
| 18:49:50 | razzer | erm why do you think I am in #psilinux? |
| 18:50:07 | razzer | I only have a psion 5mx, well unless you count my vtech helio |
| 18:50:18 | Tangent | erm.. I meant psion |
| 18:50:31 | Tangent | Sorry.. been messing with iPAQ all day |
| 18:51:09 | razzer | yeah you better apologise, now hang your head in shame and say a thousand hail psion's |
| 18:51:28 | Tangent | Hail psion.. you have a good keyboard and long battery lide |
| 18:51:32 | Tangent | life |
| 18:52:04 | razzer | exactly, thats why its better for linux, no wasting of cramped screen estate for some lame onscreen kayboard |
| 18:52:26 | Tangent | razzer : You could try putting intimate onto a CF card even... if you were feeling daring... |
| 18:52:41 | Tangent | http://intimate.handhelds.org/intimate20011113.tar.bz2 |
| 18:52:50 | razzer | yeah? whats the chances of it working? |
| 18:53:00 | razzer | and will I have x? |
| 18:53:02 | Tangent | razzer : 80% chance it'll work just fine |
| 18:53:21 | Tangent | 70% chance X will need some command line parameters changing |
| 18:53:44 | razzer | oh but aslong as its part of the distro Im willing to give it a shot |
| 18:54:12 | razzer | you know you should get in contact with wazlaf as he is building a distro with debian style package support |
| 18:54:18 | razzer | uses ipkg's |
| 18:54:26 | Tangent | uses .debs |
| 18:54:35 | razzer | whats the difference? |
| 18:54:48 | razzer | or am i confusing dpkg with ipkg |
| 18:55:15 | Tangent | .deb is some tar.gz files in an ar archive.... .ipk is some tar.gz files in a tar archive |
| 18:55:25 | Tangent | other than that, they're pretty much identical |
| 18:55:43 | razzer | oh right, theres me thinking it was a different format |
| 18:56:02 | Tangent | ipkg is designed to be more lightweight than dpkg... so ar was dropped |
| 18:56:17 | Tangent | the packages themselves are basically identical |
| 18:56:21 | razzer | yup makes sense |
| 18:56:35 | razzer | are the files interoperable? |
| 18:57:19 | razzer | 31mb is pretty big, is this inimate got everything? |
| 18:57:20 | Tangent | razzer : No.. sadly not.. |
| 18:57:42 | razzer | how much space does it need? I only have a 64mb cf |
| 18:57:58 | Tangent | 64Mb probably won't be enough |
| 18:57:59 | Tangent | :( |
| 18:58:27 | Tangent | intimate does have _everything_ by default |
| 18:58:38 | razzer | damnit :( |
| 18:58:58 | razzer | well is there anyway you can moduralise it, maybe use packages? |
| 18:59:37 | Tangent | razzer : It is all packaged... there's a base image that's a lot smaller... |
| 18:59:48 | Tangent | razzer : That one's a tar with all the stuff installed. |
| 18:59:55 | razzer | well cut me a slice of that cake :) |
| 19:00:07 | Tangent | razzer : The base image is only available with rsync at the moment |
| 19:00:24 | razzer | hmm and how would I use thees rsync? |
| 19:01:07 | Tangent | rsync -zcurvpl --progress intimate.handhelds.org::intimate-beta <dir to put the files in> |
| 19:02:00 | razzer | save that thought and let me restart into linux |
| 19:05:02 | razzer | bak |
| 19:05:05 | Tangent | rsync -zcurvpl --progress intimate.handhelds.org::intimate-beta <dir to put the files in> |
| 19:05:12 | razzer | now that rsyn thingy a me bobby |
| 19:06:15 | razzer | hmm its doing a whole lotta nothing |
| 19:07:05 | razzer | should I be seeing some sorta output |
| 19:07:07 | razzer | ? |
| 19:08:24 | Tangent | Yeah.. you should.... I'm not seeing anything either... |
| 19:08:36 | razzer | thats not a good thing is it :( |
| 19:09:12 | razzer | failed to connect to intimate.handhelds.org - Connection timed out |
| 19:10:06 | Tangent | I've just mailed the hh.org people about the problem... |
| 19:10:41 | Tangent | rsync -zcurvpl --progress h1.handhelds.org::intimate-beta ./test |
| 19:10:49 | razzer | that workds? |
| 19:10:53 | Tangent | Yep.. seems to |
| 19:11:04 | Tangent | hh.org just moved servers in the last couple of days |
| 19:11:34 | razzer | hmm not getting anything |
| 19:12:40 | Tangent | brb... food |
| 19:15:02 | razzer | failed to connect to h1.handhelds.org - Connection timed out |
| 19:15:03 | razzer | ok |
| 19:24:59 | Tangent | back |
| 19:25:07 | Tangent | razzer : Are you stuck behind a firewall? |
| 19:25:24 | razzer | I do have a router |
| 19:25:25 | Tangent | rsync needs tcp 873 |
| 19:25:47 | razzer | ok I'll set it up |
| 19:26:03 | Tangent | Hrm.. it worked a second ago... not it's not working |
| 19:26:46 | yoshi | hola |
| 19:27:24 | Tader | aloh |
| 19:27:59 | razzer | do I need to mkdir test? |
| 19:29:20 | yoshi | razzer ? |
| 19:30:21 | yoshi | so anybody here an idea where I have to put libcurses - 'cause bash needs it and doesn't find it.. |
| 19:31:21 | razzer | hmm still not working Tangent |
| 19:32:18 | Tangent | razzer : No.. not working just yet |
| 19:32:38 | razzer | well I opened the port for it |
| 19:46:12 | Tangent | razzer : It's strange... rsync is clearly running on the server, but it timeouts when connecting |
| 19:46:30 | razzer | hmm, well I know nothing about that# |
| 19:49:22 | Tangent | razzer : Hrm.. it's starting to look like the box itself is having some problems |
| 19:50:16 | razzer | ok, I dont spose you have a link to the latest kernels do you? |
| 19:50:39 | Tangent | razzer : Sadly not... |
| 20:09:15 | Tader | razzer: where is that distro of yours? |
| 20:09:26 | razzer | my distro? |
| 20:09:30 | Tader | yeah |
| 20:09:36 | Tader | with the ipkg stuff ;) |
| 20:09:48 | razzer | Tangent: you can work on that intimate base install in the meantime ;) |
| 20:09:55 | razzer | nah thats Wazlafs work |
| 20:10:06 | razzer | I just monkey around a little |
| 20:10:10 | Tader | yeah! where can i find it? ;) |
| 20:10:14 | razzer | and tell people what needs doing :) |
| 20:10:28 | razzer | www.wazlaf.org under misc |
| 20:10:47 | Tader | ow, ok :) |
| 20:13:48 | razzer | anyone know whats going on with psilinux.org, I wonna dl some files :o |
| 20:15:47 | Tader | it works for me |
| 20:16:03 | razzer | you dling files? |
| 20:38:11 | Tader | the waslaf installer just erazed my whole hf instead of the cf!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:38:43 | Tader | hf=hd |
| 20:42:48 | Tangent | Tader : Doh |
| 20:45:06 | Tader | doh? i just had a perfect install on my laptop ;( |
| 20:55:39 | razzer | oh dear that dont sound healthy |
| 20:55:48 | razzer | wait for the prepackaged version |
| 20:56:00 | Tader | is already there... |
| 20:56:08 | razzer | no thats the old one I think |
| 20:56:13 | Tader | i wanted to try the other... |