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| 01:33.33 | wolfspraul | good morning everybody |
| 01:33.35 | wolfspraul | :-) |
| 01:33.46 | wolfspraul | xiangfu: ah, you are already there :-) |
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| 01:38.18 | xiangfu | good morning |
| 01:38.38 | xiangfu | I saw the message from Mirko. (IRC log) |
| 01:40.58 | kristianpaul | morning ! |
| 01:43.19 | wolfspraul | ah yes, right |
| 01:43.29 | wolfspraul | kristianpaul: we are sending your package with goodies today, finally |
| 01:43.35 | wolfspraul | sorry about the delay, but details details details |
| 01:44.37 | kristianpaul | good, atben here to come :) |
| 01:44.51 | kristianpaul | s/atben/at*** |
| 01:44.53 | qi-bot | kristianpaul meant: "good, at*** here to come :)" |
| 01:45.14 | kristianpaul | no problem about delays, anyway i'll be out home next week :) |
| 01:45.33 | kristianpaul | so i must wait some days to open it... :( |
| 01:46.56 | wolfspraul | yeah, well. |
| 01:47.00 | wolfspraul | it was a lot of details |
| 01:47.13 | kristianpaul | sure no problem, also travel was un-expect |
| 01:47.16 | wolfspraul | but for example for the rtl2832u/e4000, you see on the list and forums everywhere now how many people have sourcing problems |
| 01:47.27 | wolfspraul | which is totally to be expected and I told you before |
| 01:47.39 | kristianpaul | i guess next week will arrive the *proably* rtl-sdr dongle as well.. |
| 01:47.50 | kristianpaul | sure sure i understan |
| 01:47.50 | wolfspraul | so the only way I can deliver something *predictable* is if I do some homework :-) |
| 01:47.51 | kristianpaul | d |
| 01:48.31 | wolfspraul | it's actually all very simple, but amazing how many people like to live with illusions :-) |
| 01:49.29 | kristianpaul | ( btw why nanonote dont ship full vim-full and vim-help? ) |
| 01:49.33 | kristianpaul | by default |
| 01:50.08 | wolfspraul | could be as easy as not having space on the 512mb partition |
| 01:50.16 | wolfspraul | it's very full, whenever we add something something else has to go |
| 01:50.25 | wolfspraul | and nobody wants to touch the default partition size :-) |
| 01:50.49 | kristianpaul | ah ok |
| 01:51.01 | wolfspraul | maybe a safe way to start would be an option in reflash_ben.sh |
| 01:51.02 | xiangfu | good. our release build success. now testing... |
| 01:51.06 | wolfspraul | like --2gb-root |
| 01:51.07 | kristianpaul | yeah because tha vi from busybox is helish nighmare |
| 01:51.59 | wolfspraul | wpwrak: do you have any feedback for adam's m1 kicad work so far? |
| 01:52.23 | wolfspraul | I am super happy that it seems Adam is just leading and pulling forward, even though others like me and xiangfu are struggling to keep up though I very much wanted to participate |
| 01:52.27 | wolfspraul | argh |
| 01:52.32 | wolfspraul | I think it's good if adam just charges ahead |
| 01:52.36 | wolfspraul | eventually the others catch up |
| 01:52.43 | wolfspraul | but if you see something wrong, please holler |
| 01:52.52 | wolfspraul | xiangfu: how about that idea? |
| 01:53.09 | wolfspraul | let's say we leave the partitioning as-is, but we add a new option to reflash_ben.sh |
| 01:53.25 | wolfspraul | like --root-2gb |
| 01:53.27 | kristianpaul | xiangfu: oh it include nanomap? i can reflash right now ! |
| 01:53.33 | wolfspraul | of course I know the numbers are hardcoded here and there |
| 01:54.10 | wolfspraul | but by leaving the default we can start to offer a 2gb install process without surprising anyone or causing data losses |
| 01:54.13 | wolfspraul | just an idea... |
| 01:55.57 | xiangfu | kristianpaul, yes. it have nanomap |
| 01:56.23 | kristianpaul | LINK please ! :-) |
| 01:56.42 | kristianpaul | or just run lastest? |
| 01:56.56 | xiangfu | kristianpaul, http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-nanonote/openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120404-1633/ |
| 01:57.08 | xiangfu | kristianpaul, I am not test it yet. downloading.. |
| 01:57.37 | xiangfu | wolfspraul, --2gb-root that needs different rootfs.ubi and different kernel. mean re-compile. |
| 01:58.00 | kristianpaul | wait was not 512Mb a plus for fast nanonote boot? |
| 01:58.12 | xiangfu | kristianpaul, you can reflash it by : reflash_ben.sh -d openwrt-xburst.full_system-20120404-1633 |
| 01:58.15 | kristianpaul | i actually boot pretty fast right, even more when you disable gmenu2x :) |
| 01:58.36 | kristianpaul | it* |
| 01:58.45 | xiangfu | kristianpaul, after Lars's work on nanonote, 2GB rootfs is not that slow. |
| 01:59.09 | xiangfu | compare to 512MB, it increase 1.5 second. if I don't remember wrong. |
| 01:59.27 | wolfspraul | xiangfu: well, my idea is to keep the --2gb thing a special case |
| 01:59.30 | wolfspraul | I know it's hardcoded |
| 01:59.40 | wolfspraul | but maybe we can find a way to make it patchable from outside, no matter how ugly |
| 01:59.48 | whitequark | you can set up mtd partition sizes from kernel cmdline |
| 01:59.54 | xiangfu | wolfspraul, yes. needs re-compile. |
| 01:59.58 | kristianpaul | or remove uboot from once :) |
| 02:00.02 | wolfspraul | yeah we can also try to parameterize some of those values a bit more |
| 02:00.09 | wolfspraul | xiangfu: no I want to avoid that! |
| 02:00.16 | whitequark | actually |
| 02:00.19 | wolfspraul | and trust me, no 'need', just depends on what you do :-) |
| 02:00.32 | wolfspraul | but anyway, maybe not now. we will surely break something again, which is worst. |
| 02:00.33 | whitequark | you can just dump the mtd partitioning and use UBI volumes |
| 02:08.04 | kristianpaul | whitequark: i remenber boot from UBI was terrible slow |
| 02:08.05 | kristianpaul | isnt? |
| 02:10.39 | kristianpaul | or was something else |
| 02:11.23 | kristianpaul | http://gforge.ictp.it/gf/project/xburst-tools/wiki/?pagename=Ronzi+A3 |
| 02:11.47 | kristianpaul | piwik stats are interesting |
| 02:12.05 | kristianpaul | good wikipedia comes second after google :) |
| 02:13.57 | mth | larsc did some kernel tweaking to speed up mounting of UBI volumes |
| 02:14.23 | mth | one patch was dropped because it broke non-UBI NAND access, but the rest is still in jz-3.3 |
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| 03:11.58 | whitequark | kristianpaul: that was yaffs2 |
| 03:12.08 | whitequark | UBI is very fast compared to yaffs/jffs |
| 03:13.06 | kristianpaul | happy again with nanomap back |
| 03:13.08 | kristianpaul | Thanks xiangfu ! |
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| 12:08.28 | kristianpaul | zrafa: i guess you are suscribed to MiPrimerRobot mail list, righ? |
| 12:08.51 | kristianpaul | i think there are hardware guys from argentina there |
| 12:17.34 | mth | larsc: it seems posts to the ALSA mailinglist by non-members end up in /dev/null (moderation queue but no moderation happened in the last week) |
| 12:17.56 | mth | is it possible for you to submit a patch for c21d1d90ee7769968c79d5309a2ea4d96641e46a or would you prefer that I subscribe to the mailinglist |
| 12:18.21 | mth | that's the "replace comma operators by semicolons" patch, so I don't expect any discussion about it |
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| 14:40.25 | zrafa | kristianpaul: no. What does that project do? (miprimerrobot) |
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| 15:03.51 | viric | I may be stupid... |
| 15:04.07 | viric | why I don't get any log level KERN_DEBUG output? |
| 15:04.19 | viric | maybe they are trimmed out at build time by some setting? |
| 15:21.10 | zrafa | viric: maybe the messages are going to somewhere you dont check? |
| 15:21.17 | zrafa | serial? |
| 15:21.30 | viric | I'm on x86... |
| 15:21.35 | viric | I'm hitting this: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1268983 |
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| 16:49.51 | larsc | mth: did you Cc Mark Brown? |
| 16:50.37 | mth | no, I sent it only to the mailinglist |
| 16:50.47 | mth | shall I send it again with him on the Cc? |
| 16:52.00 | larsc | he writes at least once a week on the alsa mailinglist "When sending patches always Cc maintainers!" ;) |
| 17:06.48 | mth | ah, but I don't read the mailinglist, that's where the issue started from ;) |
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| 17:07.07 | mth | I'll resend the patch |
| 17:09.22 | jow_laptop | s |
| 17:09.56 | larsc | mth: but you should always Cc maintainers anyway |
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| 19:39.29 | Jay7 | http://elinux.org/CEWG_Open_Project_Proposal_2012 |
| 20:25.49 | whitequark | pabs3: you might be interested |
| 20:35.18 | whitequark | I've been contracted to write a Flash ActionScript 3 decompiler |
| 20:35.26 | whitequark | here's what I have so far: |
| 20:35.41 | roh | whitequark: my condolences |
| 20:35.56 | whitequark | http://pastie.org/3741156 (original) -> http://pastie.org/3741164 (decompiled) |
| 20:36.08 | whitequark | it can also output a token stream like this: http://pastie.org/3740795 |
| 20:36.26 | whitequark | roh: hehe, I'm almost done |
| 20:36.39 | whitequark | I only have control flow analysis left, and it's pretty simple |
| 20:36.51 | whitequark | just dominate the graph and the job is done |
| 20:37.20 | whitequark | (well, to talk seriously, you really need to find dominating blocks in the control flow graph) |
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| 23:59.46 | mth | larsc: you were right: Mark applied the patch within 10 minutes of me sending it :) |