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00:26.36xwalkI'm trying to configure the xburst-tools package on Fedora 16 and I'm running into this little problem: http://pastebin.com/anABAdwc. I tried setting an environment variable to "cross-comile- use --disable-firmware" and that didn't seem to do anything to help.
00:26.49qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Switch to tty1 for console apps (Dingux build only). (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/d1328d7
00:26.50qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: Removed full path to skin files on the links (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/d227a8a
00:26.51qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: dingux: added a "system info" link on the settings tab. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/a4e25cb
00:26.53qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: dingux: added a link to "alsamixer". (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/4d3310f
00:26.55qi-bot[commit] Paul Cercueil: dingux: renamed links on "settings" to force menu layout (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/454a73d
00:28.47qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: genex/comp.c (read_desc): component missing in tree yields a warning, not error (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/1d47668
00:31.12qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: scripts/dcm2desc: script to convert comments from .dcm files to genex descriptions (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/33f9ac4
00:31.13qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/Makefile: new targets "catalog", "clean", and "spotless" (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/03ca12f
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00:37.40wpwrakcladamw: i added a bunch of components i had sitting in various projects
00:38.21cladamwwpwrak, good morning !
00:38.22wpwrakcladamw: some of the names need cleaning up, though. so i put them all under "Unclassified" (in EXPAND)
00:38.51wpwrakgood night :)
00:39.10cladamwlemme git pull. :-)
00:40.25cladamwyes. bunch of them. i may also do such things from avt2. :-)
00:41.02wpwrakhehe :)
00:42.22cladamwso i need to 'make' genex it after adding symbols to get 'kicad-libs-components.pdf' everytime ?
00:43.24cladamwa dcm2desc script ?
00:43.38wpwrakno, you'll need to build and install genex (in the eda-tools project) each time it changes. and you'll need to "make catalog" (in kicad-libs) to update the catalog
00:43.46wpwrakcan you guess what it does ? :)
00:43.54cladamwnice. how to use it ?
00:44.13wpwrakit's used by "make catalog". all automatic :)
00:44.22wpwraknew catalog uploaded
00:44.47wpwrakyou'll see your descriptions for example at PPTC
00:45.13cladamwwhen talking scripts or s/w, my brain get work slowed. :-)
00:45.43wpwrakthat's why it all works automagically. you just say the magic word and poof, it's done :)
00:45.47cladamwso now. should i reinstall eda-tools again ?
00:46.00wpwrakcd wherever/eda-tools
00:46.05wpwrakgit pull
00:46.08wpwrakcd genex
00:46.14wpwrakmake install
00:46.18wpwrakthat should do the trick
00:46.35wpwraknote that i'm still making updates quite frequently
00:46.38cladamwwpwrak, yeah ... thanks for your great god help from human beings. :-)
00:46.53cladamwi try now. stay tuned. :-)
00:47.35wolfspraulwerner is a god now?
00:48.19cladamwto me at least for 'soft' paradise, ha :-)
00:50.31wpwrakfinally :)
00:51.04cladamwi made install done, then ?
00:51.23wpwrakgo to kicad-libs/components
00:51.27wpwrakthen   make catalog
00:51.37wpwrakthen wait a bit
00:51.59wpwrakah, you need a recent kicad for that. with our patches. not sure if you have that yet
00:52.43wpwrakif not -> eda-tools/kicad-patches
00:53.33cladamwyeah... you're right, auto runs but err happened seems my old KiCad.
00:53.50cladamwFile </home/adam/kicad-libs/components/tmp/--plot=ps.sch> not found.
00:54.02wpwrakoh yes, very old :)
00:54.10wpwrakfossilized ;-)
00:54.49cladamwso let's do kicad-patches now ?
00:55.35cladamwrun kicad_diff.sh ?
00:56.42cladamwor i don't need to do this kicad-patches at this moment ?
00:57.02wpwrakif you want to make catalogs, you need a patches kicad
00:57.45wpwrakand no, kicad_diff.sh does the opposite of what you want
00:58.08wpwraki'd suggest you follow the instructions under "first build" in README
00:58.11cladamwwill latest kicad patches cause unexpexted things on my site ? if not, i do this kicad-patch, or no. :-)
00:58.23wpwrakoh, i'm sure they will ;-)
00:58.36cladamwman.... okay
00:58.37wpwrakwhere would be the fun if there weren't surprises ? ;-)
00:59.22cladamwso i should do this later after xiangfu and me done on m1r4 schematic, then I follow your this README to run patch. :-)
00:59.47wpwrakyou may have to install a few packages. are you on ubuntu ?
01:00.13cladamwanyway, happy to see such auto  make catalog  done.
01:00.19cladamwues, ubuntu
01:00.21wpwrak;-)
01:00.30cladamws/ues/yes
01:00.31qi-botcladamw meant: "yes, ubuntu"
01:01.33wpwrakokay, on ubuntu, you'll have to  apt-get install bzr cmake libwxgtk2.8-dev libboost1.46-all-dev libgtk2.0-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libglu1-mesa-dev
01:01.49wpwrakmaybe you'll need more. but these are certainly necessary for building kicad
01:02.06wpwrakyou can install them even if you don't plan to build kicad now
01:05.35cladamwwpwrak, http://dpaste.com/733416/
01:07.06wpwrakmaybe try  apt-get update  (takes a while) and then  apt-cache search libboost | grep dev
01:07.10cladamwwpwrak, http://dpaste.com/733418/
01:08.11wpwrakcould be that your ubuntu has an older libboost. then you have to figure out the right name
01:08.32cladamwi'm updating...
01:09.22wpwraki think they're including minor revisions in the package name as a revenge for BOOST breaking its APIs from time to time :)
01:14.00cladamwwpwrak, http://dpaste.com/733419/
01:15.04wpwrakapt-get install libboost1.40-all-dev
01:15.10wpwraklet's hope that's recent enough ...
01:15.23cladamwso seems my libboost is 1.38  
01:15.46wpwrakthere's 1.38 and 1.40
01:19.38qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: genex: option -D to dump all canonical component names (for missing-in-tree) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/eda-tools/7d97a74
01:19.39qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/scripts/missing-in-tree: script to list components not in hierarchy (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/f602b3a
01:19.49cladamwdone on 'apt-get install libboost1.40-all-dev'
01:20.17qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/Makefile: target "missing" to list components missing in EXPAND (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/9aff31b
01:20.27wpwrakdid you install all the other packages as well ?
01:20.28cladamwwpwrak, so now my cmd is ? apt-get install bzr cmake libwxgtk2.8-dev libboost1.40-all-dev libgtk2.0-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libglu1-mesa-dev ?
01:20.40wpwrakyes, that should work
01:20.44wpwrak(let's hope ;-)
01:20.47cladamwokay. :-)
01:22.29cladamwwpwrak, is it done ? http://dpaste.com/733421/
01:23.59wpwraklooks good. seems that you had already installed all the things needed for building kicad before
01:24.47cladamwso next to do patches ?
01:25.47cladamwphew~ seems README has few steps though.
01:27.00cladamwi think i do this patch followed README later. :-O
01:27.10cladamwtime to keep working on editing sch. :)
01:28.00wpwrak;-)
01:28.11cladamwwpwrak, tks for leading me installation.
01:29.33wpwrakno problem. good luck for when you try it ! :)
01:30.50qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/EXPAND: add conn_4, conn_7x2, MEMCARD8, SCJ368R1NUS0B00G (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/f1474c0
01:30.51qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/Makefile: new target "view" to view the catalog (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/3e7c34b
01:31.29wpwrakcatalog updated. now it should have everything
01:31.48wpwraknext target: fishing out all the bugs ;-)
01:32.08wpwrakah, and kicad is contributing a few, too. the "print to postscript" isn't very reliable
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01:33.54wpwrake.g., 74X1G00_5 has the arc facing the wrong way. in XP01111 the text in the base-emitter resistors has mysteriously vanished. and so on :-(
01:41.03cladamwyeah... that arc, also the 74AUP1G08GW, 125
01:59.35wpwrakyup. there's a bug for everyone ;)
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03:57.49qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: given better 100 mil gap between pins and orders (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/2cdfafd
03:57.50qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: Merge branch 'master' of projects.qi-hardware.com:kicad-libs (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/0b47784
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07:13.07qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: con.lib: added CONN_3 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/3277f0b
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11:02.31jow_laptopkyak: pong
11:12.43kyakjow_laptop: hi! could you please have a look at tickets 11236 and 11264? I don't know if you have a chance to check gettext-version fixup, but i think we agreed on naming of toolchain
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12:42.46qi-bot[commit] Adam Wang: con.lib -> added CONN_2, CONN_10X2 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/8a05b9b
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15:25.40LunaVoraxHello everyone!
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16:52.48kyak!top10 joins
16:52.51qi-botTop10(joins): 1. jekhor(1355) 2. wejp(1179) 3. xiangfu(1034) 4. rejon(988) 5. aw_(882) 6. Ayla(840) 7. wolfsprau(643) 8. wolfspraul(623) 9. panda|x201(605) 10. LunaVorax_mini(561)
16:53.14Aylawhohooo! I'm on the Top 10! :D
16:53.21kyakyou are running for the top 5 :)
16:53.27kyak42 more joins!
16:53.29Ayladefinitely
16:53.47Aylagive me one day, and it'll be done ;)
16:54.57kyakjust ask your provider not to fix your link ;)
16:57.02Aylatechnically I'm 7, I see wolfspraul did cheat
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18:36.33larsc!help
18:36.35qi-botlarsc: check your pm for some helpful text...
18:37.44larsc!stat larsc
18:37.47qi-botlarsc: 9527 words, 53438 letters, 1251 lines, 7.62 words/line, 6 actions, 71 smilies, 129 questions, 46 joins, 0 kicks, 0 modes, 5 nicks, 0 topics, time wasted: 49 weeks 2 days 18 hours 39 minutes , 398.02 idle-factor.
18:38.02larsc5 nicks?
18:39.42Aylax71 smileys on 1252 lines, that's not much
18:40.14larsci'm not a happy person :(
18:40.58larsc!stat Aylax
18:40.59qi-botSorry, I don't have any stats about Aylax  in #qi-hardware.
18:41.05larsc!stat Ayla
18:41.07qi-botAyla: 8737 words, 47167 letters, 1157 lines, 7.55 words/line, 5 actions, 68 smilies, 191 questions, 840 joins, 0 kicks, 0 modes, 235 nicks, 0 topics, time wasted: 18 weeks 3 days 15 hours 27 minutes , 161.35 idle-factor.
18:41.58AylaxHeh, looks like I smile as much as you do
18:42.10larscbut write shorter words
18:42.51AylaxWhat with the 235 nicks? lol
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18:43.27larsc!top10 nicks
18:43.29qi-botTop10(nicks): 1. Ayla(235) 2. aw_(87) 3. DocScrutinizer(58) 4. zumbi(55) 5. skynet-2000(50) 6. tuxbrain(43) 7. rjeffries(43) 8. jlamothe(26) 9. mth_(21) 10. qwebirc48371(21)
18:43.46AylaxWhoooo
18:43.51larsc:D
18:44.17zumbiwhat is top10?
18:44.33larscwell, the top 10
18:44.38zumbi!top10 help
18:44.41qi-botNo such stat type.
18:44.50larsc!help top10
18:44.51qi-botlarsc: check your pm for some helpful text...
18:45.02zumbi!help top10
18:45.02qi-botzumbi: check your pm for some helpful text...
18:48.59DocScrutinizeryay
18:49.52DocScrutinizerdang this bot drives me nuts
18:49.55DocScrutinizer!help
18:49.57qi-botDocScrutinizer: check your pm for some helpful text...
18:52.24DocScrutinizer>>All commands can sent to me in pm without "!" prefix.-<< haha, if that were true I hadn't spammed the chan with !help
18:53.41kyak/msg qi-bot stat #qi-hardware
18:53.48kyakno problem
18:53.52DocScrutinizerpfff
18:54.03DocScrutinizer/query qi-bot
18:54.06DocScrutinizerhelp
18:54.21DocScrutinizernada
18:55.18DocScrutinizerdunno if "pm" is a defined term which I miss the true meaning
18:55.31kyakprivate message
18:55.41DocScrutinizerthought as much
18:55.51DocScrutinizertranslates to /query for me
18:58.11kyakit,s the same thing, query just opens a new window.. thought it,s opened anyway when the bot messages you back
18:58.20DocScrutinizerbtw not only for me but even for my IRC client which opens a query tab "qi-bot" printing what I posted per /msg qi-bot
18:59.35DocScrutinizeranyway, /msg qi-bot help doesn't result in any answer either
18:59.49kyakit won,t
19:00.00DocScrutinizernot even /msg qi-bot !help does
19:00.02kyakhelp is a channel bind only
19:00.10DocScrutinizergreat!
19:00.36DocScrutinizer:x
19:10.05kyak"help" should work now in pm, too
19:29.09DocScrutinizer:-D
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21:48.48qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/EXPAND: added conn_2, conn_3, conn_10x2 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/9a68e1b
21:48.48qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: components/Makefile: improved dependencies; target "upload" to upload catalog (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/8459988
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22:25.17LunaVoraxWhat kind of videos is MPlayer supposed to play?
22:25.30LunaVoraxNot a big surprise but I doesn't see my MP4s and FLVs
23:13.14qi-bot[commit] Werner Almesberger: m1/BUILD-CHEAT-SHEET: removed RTEMS/YAFFS pinning; added known to be good versions (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/wernermisc/31ba2e4
23:19.12GNUtoo-desktopLunaVorax, flv is a container but usually youtube vlv videos are in low resolution
23:19.19GNUtoo-desktop*flv
23:19.30GNUtoo-desktop*available in low resolution
23:21.51LunaVoraxYes and?
23:21.59LunaVoraxI don't see the connection
23:23.15GNUtoo-desktopI guess the nanonote is not very powerfull....
23:23.35GNUtoo-desktopso if mplayer is compiled  with flv support....
23:24.05AylaFLV is just a container
23:24.22Aylameh, you just said that
23:26.29LunaVoraxMaybe I don't know
23:26.38LunaVoraxBut that wasn't the problem GNUtoo-desktop
23:26.49GNUtoo-desktopok
23:27.02LunaVoraxI was refering to MPlayer's GUI which doesn't list FLV and MP4
23:27.28GNUtoo-desktopopenwrt or jlime?
23:27.33LunaVoraxWhich isn't a problem since I figured out that this version of mplayer doesn't include h264 support
23:27.34LunaVoraxopenwrt
23:27.42GNUtoo-desktopok
23:28.29Aylah264? On nanonote? x)
23:28.29LunaVoraxStill, it "waits" indefinitely while openning a WebM file.
23:28.29LunaVoraxAyla, I wasn't trying to play a 1080p video
23:28.29Aylathat's because it takes one minute to decode a frame ;)
23:28.39LunaVoraxHum
23:28.41LunaVoraxHaven't tried that
23:28.47Aylah264 is very demanding even for low-resolution videos
23:29.15Aylatry xvid
23:29.16LunaVoraxOh well, if h264 is very demanding, it won't be better for VP8
23:29.50LunaVoraxHum no, I hate reencoding videos and theses are already in bad quality
23:29.55LunaVoraxBut i'll try with a HD one
23:33.39DocScrutinizerfigures video playback on NN display (never seen it in RL, but anyway)
23:35.17GNUtoo-desktophttp://jlime.com/wiki/documentation/user/nanonote/videos hmmm the website tells me to install flash....
23:35.32DocScrutinizerIIRC mplayer has a renderer that outputs ascii art?
23:35.48GNUtoo-desktopbye
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23:37.19DocScrutinizerooh, that video is nice, and I realize the NN display is color
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23:45.18LunaVoraxAyla, something is probably wrong, it doesn't work either with a 320x180 xvid video
23:45.18LunaVoraxI got sound only
23:45.18LunaVoraxAnyway
23:45.18LunaVoraxI'll just go to sleep
23:45.18LunaVoraxSee ya
23:45.18Aylabye
23:51.35DocScrutinizergand, google glasses
23:51.43DocScrutinizerdang even
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23:54.29DocScrutinizerhttp://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/04/google-begins-testing-its-augmented-reality-glasses/
23:55.10DocScrutinizermaybe it's exploitable without getting a remote controlled drone of Google
23:55.24DocScrutinizers/getting/becoming/
23:55.25qi-botDocScrutinizer meant: "maybe it's exploitable without becoming a remote controlled drone of Google"
23:56.22DocScrutinizerwas it this channel where I brainstormed about the visor alike AR goggles I'd like to find?
23:56.34DocScrutinizerthis gadget it close to it

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