| 00:56.44 | qi-bot | [commit] Paul Cercueil: Align the links the same way whether or not a scrollbar is present (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/4347c34 |
| 00:56.45 | qi-bot | [commit] Paul Cercueil: Remove useless clipper (packages) http://qi-hw.com/p/gmenu2x/a0690ba |
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| 03:33.17 | pcercuei | do you guys mind if I switch gmenu2x to use truetype fonts? |
| 03:35.17 | pcercuei | I want to use the DejaVuSansCondensed font |
| 03:35.48 | pcercuei | quick preview: http://crapouillou.net/~paul/nobackup/DejaVuSansCondensed2.png |
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| 05:20.56 | kyak | pcercuei: makes sense, i guess |
| 05:21.59 | pcercuei | well the main advantage is that we'll be able to display non-ascii characters ... |
| 05:24.21 | kyak | that's right.. As i remember, currently gmenu2x is using some native fonts, right? |
| 05:25.53 | pcercuei | the font is loaded from a PNG |
| 05:44.14 | pcercuei | also, it'd be about time that we merge the "packages" branch back into the "master" one ... |
| 05:44.55 | pcercuei | I just need to know that it doesn't break anything on your side |
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| 07:01.51 | kyak | what's the "packages" branch for? |
| 07:03.09 | pcercuei | it makes gmenu2x able to use OPK packages, which is the format we use in OpenDingux |
| 07:03.51 | pcercuei | if libopk is found, support for OPKs is enabled, otherwise it's disabled |
| 07:03.59 | pcercuei | (at compile time) |
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| 08:07.15 | kyak | what does it mean - use opk packages? |
| 08:07.33 | kyak | like, being able to install them? |
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| 14:03.35 | mth | kyak: OPK is based on squashfs, so packages are mounted when you launch an application, they are not installed |
| 14:05.03 | viric | what is opk? |
| 14:05.29 | viric | the openwrt packager? |
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| 16:56.19 | kyak | mth_: i guess it doesn't apply to openwrt then? |
| 18:04.40 | mth | viric: OPK is the application / package format we use for OpenDingux on the GCW Zero (and on the Dingoo A320 in the future) |
| 18:05.21 | mth | kyak: you could build OPK files for use on openwrt, as long as you have squashfs in the kernel |
| 18:05.35 | mth | it's a different approach than package management though |
| 18:05.47 | mth | we've got a lot of preinstalled libraries in the rootfs |
| 18:06.08 | mth | and no dependency mechanism |
| 18:06.47 | mth | so every lib you neeed that is not in the rootfs has to be added inside the application package |
| 18:13.08 | kyak | mth: ok, i see. I thought you were talking about openwrt's opk |
| 18:13.31 | viric | gcw zero? mh |
| 18:14.54 | mth | isn't that opkg? |
| 18:15.15 | mth | viric: http://www.gcw-zero.com/ |
| 18:20.19 | kyak | mth: well, the file name end with opk, hence the confusion :) |
| 18:21.52 | viric | ah nice thing |
| 18:22.14 | viric | I wish I knew all the games there in screenshots |
| 18:23.07 | mth | the "media" tab has the game names in it |
| 18:24.42 | viric | aha! thank you |
| 18:25.07 | viric | mth: can this thing play ogg or mp3 with low power? |
| 18:25.22 | viric | I wondered, what open device allows to play mp3 (with loud speakers) without taking much poewr |
| 18:25.30 | viric | power |
| 18:26.42 | viric | the kickstarter looks like it worked! are you earning money with this project? |
| 18:27.46 | viric | lucky those, who do :) |
| 18:29.02 | mth | yes, I am being paid, although it's not comparable to a normal software engineer's salary |
| 18:29.17 | viric | aha |
| 18:29.17 | mth | but it's fun work, all open source and I learn a lot, so for now that is not a problem |
| 18:29.20 | viric | well, I imagine so. |
| 18:29.27 | viric | But It looks fun |
| 18:29.27 | viric | :) |
| 18:30.25 | mth | I got about 6 hours of emulator use out of one battery, for music playing the LCD + backlight can be turned off and the CPU usage would be much lower, so it would last considerably longer |
| 18:30.44 | mth | I don't know how much though; we haven't measured the power use of individual subsystems yet |
| 18:31.19 | mth | pcercuei did that for the Dingoo A320, but he doesn't have access to his equipment currently due to being on the other side of the world |
| 18:31.34 | viric | I mean, music is decoded with the general cpu, right? |
| 18:31.49 | mth | yes |
| 18:31.50 | viric | somehow I imagine it far less efficient than with hw help |
| 18:32.22 | mth | for today's CPUs music decoding is so easy that they'll sleep most of the time |
| 18:33.29 | viric | hm really? |
| 18:33.58 | viric | well, the gcw also has a huge battery :) |
| 18:36.32 | mth | playing MP3 takes about 6% CPU time |
| 18:37.04 | viric | hm ok |
| 18:37.19 | viric | I should test how long the nanonote lasts :) |
| 18:37.24 | viric | the battery is far smaller |
| 18:39.52 | mth | the JZ4770 is manufactured at a smaller process size (65 nm vs 180 nm for JZ4740, if the wikipedia page is correct), which also helps power efficiency |
| 18:40.33 | viric | ah, ok |
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| 18:41.08 | mth | we can probably save some power in the kernel as well |
| 18:41.58 | mth | we don't unpower all unused hardware yet |
| 18:42.04 | viric | very good :) |
| 18:42.35 | viric | yesterday I was trying 3.9 in a broadcom chip... I'll try to build a filesystem for it. |
| 18:43.10 | viric | mth: do you have dropbear there? |
| 18:43.15 | mth | yes |
| 18:43.43 | viric | can you try with dbclient: ssh -J hello hello |
| 18:43.44 | viric | if it segfaults or not |
| 18:43.57 | mth | dbclient? |
| 18:44.08 | mth | ah, the ssh client from dropbear |
| 18:44.17 | mth | I read db and think of databases ;) |
| 18:44.19 | viric | the dropbear ssh client |
| 18:44.20 | viric | yes |
| 18:44.33 | viric | :) |
| 18:44.41 | viric | it's about bears |
| 18:44.58 | mth | opendingux:/boot/local/home # dbclient -J hello hello |
| 18:44.59 | mth | Segmentation fault |
| 18:45.01 | mth | opendingux:/boot/local/home # sh: hello: not found |
| 18:45.21 | viric | also segfault? Damn db |
| 18:45.24 | viric | on x86 it works. |
| 18:45.35 | mth | I only use the server side |
| 18:45.45 | mth | the Zero doesn't have a keyboard, so the client is not that useful |
| 18:45.46 | viric | this requires gdb! |
| 18:45.56 | mth | I've got gdb |
| 18:46.04 | mth | gdb needs a patch to work on MIPS though |
| 18:46.17 | viric | you could have an autossh trying to forward ports :) |
| 18:46.27 | viric | Really? I used gdb on mips enough times |
| 18:46.32 | viric | what patch? |
| 18:46.41 | mth | https://github.com/gcwnow/buildroot/blob/opendingux-2012.11/toolchain/gdb/7.5/signal-128.patch |
| 18:47.10 | viric | since when? |
| 18:48.58 | mth | here is the detailed info: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14523#c3 |
| 18:49.37 | viric | hm I didn't remember it. Thank you! |
| 18:50.04 | mth | if you're using 7.3 or before, you don't need this patch |
| 18:50.22 | viric | Ah, that can explain it |
| 18:50.32 | viric | Great. |
| 18:50.40 | viric | This channel is a great place to be at :) |
| 18:51.18 | mth | the segfault happens on free(), by the way |
| 18:51.35 | viric | aha |
| 18:51.38 | viric | I'll try with valgrind on x85 |
| 18:52.03 | mth | but I don't have debug symbols in dbclient, so gdb cannot provide a good stack trace of the upper levels |
| 18:52.26 | viric | some hundreds of problems. perfect. |
| 18:52.30 | viric | don't worry |
| 18:52.33 | mth | it could also be a corrupted stack though |
| 18:52.35 | viric | if so, valgrind will tell on x86 |
| 18:52.57 | viric | will check. don't worry. :) |
| 18:52.59 | viric | but this bug has fcked me on openwrt routers |
| 18:53.02 | viric | and it's there since years |
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| 19:20.14 | viric | mth: can you test a patch on dropbear easily, for mips? |
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