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16:48.36Jin-Rohhi
16:50.14Jin-Rohhow are uß
16:51.11Pimpinellafine, ty
16:51.24TheRedBaronok cya laters guys cheerio!
16:51.34*** part/#silvercat TheRedBaron (~TheRedBar@216-173-166-82.electronet.net)
16:51.43Pimpinellabbl too
16:52.59*** mode/#silvercat [+v _Manu_] by ChanServ
16:55.04Birdiewhat about the hepcat forums? change them into silvercat?
16:57.54jomojoBirdie: yeah i have few guys willing to do that for us once i get a hold of meno, to give us a new website
16:58.10Birdiefor meno you will need to wait till thursday
16:58.25jomojoi am debating if we should bring the old forum post over or not
17:00.13Birdiei would say no
17:00.21jomojoi am thinking no as well.
17:00.31jomojostart anew so to speak
17:01.20jomojookay i want opinions on who we should keep out of the old admins and such
17:01.43orangedo we have a list?
17:02.09jomojoAdmins: Happy Tanker, RC Cola, spud - an anarchist, AlohaEh!, dunadan, brad2901
17:02.12jomojoAdmins: CapN, Carnage, Chestal, Hillbilly on the Run, insignificance
17:02.13jomojoAdmins: Kooseefoo, learner, Legoguy, menotume, No_Limit_Soldier, Pimpinella
17:02.15jomojoAdmins: tartaros, trepan, UL_Approved, Venom, Yojimbo, [dmp], TOKIMI, Mikkel
17:02.17jomojoCops: freelancer, Green Manalishi, Genosse Dark Lord, Head, JSmit
17:02.19jomojoCops: Daddo, kc9foh, picklez, QuantumBeep, SpitFire, Tegan, toh
17:02.21jomojoCops: Lan, ducatiwannabe, Rover Blaster, G5 Serenity Firefly Now, teal^c
17:02.29jomojojust got it in
17:02.37orangewow
17:02.58Birdiedont we have to cut a bit in that list?
17:03.05orangeI'd think so
17:03.21jomojoyeah. some are inactive some I don't know at all, some I don't want
17:03.46jomojoi want to promote freelancer to admin, and maybe kc9oh as well
17:03.48orangeI know most of them
17:03.56orangebut yeah, many are inactive
17:04.16orangeI tell you what I'd do... I'd put an admsg on the server that says if you were a hepcat admin, contact us about becoming a silvercat admin
17:04.23orangeif you weren't a hepcat admin, don't ask, we'll ask you
17:04.43jomojogreen man, is to aggressive to be an admin, for now..
17:05.16jomojookay well i wan to start with a good list to get things going, so lets brainstorm.. on who to start with
17:06.32Birdieorange: good idea
17:06.49Birdiei have my doubts about tealc to
17:07.08jomojoTell me if agree or disagree with the following:  RC Cola, Spud, AlohaEh, Dunadan, Brad2901, menotume, Tokimi, Mikkel,  for admins
17:07.23jomojooh and freelancer too
17:07.39jomojoand kc9foh
17:07.53jomojoi won't worry about cops.. for now
17:09.18jomojothen we stick with orange's plan.. how does that sound?
17:09.54jomojowell wait I don't know if we want brad2901 either.. I really ... oh i hi brad.. lol :P
17:09.59*** join/#silvercat ToughShooter_ (~ts@p54B01B61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
17:10.03brad2901:-(
17:10.22jomojohi ToughShooter_
17:10.27brad2901hi TS
17:11.23jomojois jeffm one o f the guys who controls the groups on my.bzflag ?
17:11.29brad2901yes
17:13.07*** mode/#silvercat [+v ToughShooter] by ChanServ
17:27.32jomojogood news all groups are set up I am adding members as we speak
17:37.06orangejomojo: I like having folks like Chestal, learner, trepan on the list... they come every once in awhile, and are on irc a lot
17:37.15orangeand what about ul_approved?
17:37.51jomojoagreed
17:38.11orangemany of the others are inactive
17:42.17brad2901~bzfquery gnurdux.homelinux.net
17:45.24orangethe server message on the silvercat family servers should also say something about the website/irc channel
17:46.34brad2901ok
17:47.04brad2901will the website still be http://hepcat.bzflag.org ?
17:49.27_Manu_orange, you aren't in the list ;-p
17:50.14brad2901oh.. -autoteam aswell :)
17:57.27jomojobrad2901: it will be silvercat.bzflag.org
17:57.49jomojohey can anyone help me with ssh?
18:01.10brad2901back
18:01.20brad2901Do you need a client?
18:01.22ToughShooterWhat kind of help? I know only how to use
18:01.32brad2901(windows?)
18:01.41orangejomojo: I can help you with ssh
18:01.48orangeor brad2901 as I see :-)
18:02.23jomojonope it is mac osx
18:03.19brad2901ah
18:03.28jomojoorange: or brad2901: I am trying to login in here.  It won't let me, I am wondering if it is because i can't seem to set a username or what
18:03.50orangecommand line or clicky with a mouse?
18:04.02jomojocommand line
18:04.16orangetry using ssh -v username@whatever.host.com
18:04.36jomojousing the terminal that comes with system
18:05.10jomojobingo
18:05.14jomojothanks orange
18:05.20orangecool... you can leave out the -v in the future
18:05.24orangeit's only useful to help debug
18:05.39jomojoi did
18:06.03jomojoso now that I am in i have no idea what I am doing lol
18:06.12jomojoany suggestions
18:06.18orangelol... silverfox's server?
18:06.23_Manu_don't break anything
18:06.25brad2901if you wanna see a list of all file:
18:06.28brad2901ls -a
18:06.35brad2901try that for starters :)
18:06.46brad2901or it might be la depending on the OS
18:06.56orange_Manu_: what list were you talking about?
18:07.08*** join/#silvercat Pimpinella (~frank@p5481A1EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
18:07.08*** mode/#silvercat [+o Pimpinella] by ChanServ
18:07.11brad2901te admin list
18:07.11_Manu_jomojo, my sugestion... is left ssh.. learn about commands usage.. and join when you know what you are doing ;)
18:07.14brad2901the*
18:07.26orangeoh
18:07.31_Manu_orange, read up... jomojo wrote a list
18:07.40jomojoyeah silverfox's server
18:08.00jomojooy
18:08.02orangeif you don't know what you're doing you can definitely do harm
18:08.15jomojowell i just need a simple list of commands
18:08.38orangeyeah, but without knowing what you want to do... no way to know what to tell you :-)
18:09.33orangehttp://www.sloppycode.net/nix/  -- try that jomojo
18:09.50jomojothaks
18:09.52jomojothanks
18:10.21jomojoi am writing silverfox and asking him specifically what he wants me to do with this
18:10.24TimRikerjomojo: email me whenever you are ready for the dns name. (silvercat.bzflag.org) I log the emails. Tim@Rikers.org
18:10.53jomojothanks TimRiker
18:11.07jomojoi think it is going to be silvercat.bzflag.org though
18:12.45jomojoTimRiker: thanks rather
18:12.46TimRikerjomojo: fine. I'm the guy that has to set that up. I need a machine IP or hostname to point to.
18:13.11jomojono problem I am getting that as we speak I should have that in the hour.
18:13.48TimRikerk. I'm off for a bit, but I'll be around.
18:27.43*** join/#silvercat CBG (~CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
18:27.47CBGHello?
18:27.56brad2901?olleH
18:28.05jomojoHi CBG
18:28.14CBGHey jomojo! :)
18:28.17brad2901oh, I mean hi :)
18:28.44CBGsomeone "/voice CBG"... ;)
18:29.04*** mode/#silvercat [+v CBG] by ChanServ
18:31.18jomojoyou know guy's I often think of myself as intelligent, but sometimes talking to all of you about computers and code dissuades me from those notions of intelligence.. lol
18:31.34CBGlol
18:37.12*** mode/#silvercat [+v ChanServ] by ChanServ
18:37.35_Manu_CBG, now you can speak :)
18:37.49CBG_Manu_, I could before. :P
18:38.03_Manu_no.. only you can read what you wrote ;-p
18:38.04CBGI just didnt like being the only unvoiced/opped person here. :P
18:41.03*** mode/#silvercat [-v CBG] by jomojo
18:41.09*** mode/#silvercat [-v ToughShooter] by jomojo
18:41.14*** mode/#silvercat [-v _Manu_] by jomojo
18:41.36jomojoCBG: now you are not the only one.. lol
18:41.47orangelol
18:41.58CBGhaha jomojo! :D
18:42.10*** mode/#silvercat [+v CBG] by jomojo
18:42.24*** mode/#silvercat [+v _Manu_] by jomojo
18:42.28*** mode/#silvercat [+v ToughShooter] by jomojo
18:42.31CBG:)
18:44.39*** mode/#silvercat [+m] by orange
18:46.11ToughShooterHmm, what's +m?
18:46.19brad2901moderated
18:46.26brad2901you can't talk without voice
18:47.26ToughShooterThanks for clarification, I was aware that this was standing for moderated only didn't know what follows with this option
18:48.03brad2901:)
18:50.13*** mode/#silvercat [-m] by orange
19:02.50jomojoi am trying to use a graphical interface for my comp.. having no luck.. any thoughts
19:03.40jomojofor ssh that is
19:04.16orangecommand-line I can work with...graphical are all different
19:05.19jomojowell its letting me get as far as a password but after i enter pass, it seems to get stuck in authentication mode.. I can cancel but otherwise stuck there.
19:06.53orangeI just don't know... without -v
19:07.39jomojolol
19:10.08jomojoi am on OS X i also use user command line, but I am trying to see if i can use graphical interface
19:19.36ToughShooterWhere does this login stuff lead when information is filled in? Has cosmos provided a dump of the used forum database?
19:31.51jomojoToughShooter: cosmos doesn't run the websitr
19:31.55jomojowebiste
19:32.03jomojogrr dyslexia
19:32.07jomojowebsite
19:32.56ToughShooterWho hosts the website?
19:33.29brad2901silverfox
19:33.33Birdiemeno?
19:33.38Birdieoh
19:40.13jomojomeno
19:42.51*** join/#silvercat meacan (~dennis@port151.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk)
19:43.37Birdiehey dmp
20:33.39*** mode/#silvercat [+v meacan] by ChanServ
20:57.12ToughShooterping jomojo
21:00.01*** join/#silvercat CBG (~CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
21:00.10*** mode/#silvercat [+v CBG] by ChanServ
21:00.21CBGthanks chanserv ;)
21:01.02brad2901:)
21:01.40*** mode/#silvercat [-v CBG] by Birdie
21:01.49CBGhaha
21:01.56CBGbirdie is stoooopid
21:02.48Birdieat least i'm not the ass
21:02.51Birdieha!
21:03.04CBGyeah yeah. i'm an ass....
21:03.06CBGso what?
21:03.26*** mode/#silvercat [-o brad2901] by brad2901
21:03.33*** mode/#silvercat [+v brad2901] by ChanServ
21:03.38*** mode/#silvercat [+m] by orange
21:03.48*** part/#silvercat CBG (~CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
21:03.54*** join/#silvercat CBG (~CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
21:03.57*** mode/#silvercat [-m] by orange
21:04.01CBGeh
22:23.12brad2901jomojo, ping
22:32.26jomojobrad2901: ping
22:32.47brad2901jomojo: what are the group names?
22:33.51jomojoone sec, i  will brb
22:33.56brad2901ok, thx
22:36.31jomojoSILVERCAT.OWNER
22:36.51jomojoSILVERCAT.ADMIN
22:37.17jomojoSILVERCAT.COPS
22:37.29jomojobrad2901: get that?
22:37.38brad2901jomojo: yes, thanks.
22:37.46jomojono problem
22:38.00jomojo#hepcat
22:38.08jomojooops
22:41.34jomojobrad2901: what's the progress?
22:42.03brad2901jomojo: Still editing the groupdb file :)
22:42.15brad2901and the conf..
22:42.29jomojodo you want cosmos list of privs for the groups?
22:42.36brad2901sure
22:42.43brad2901that would be greatt
22:51.51*** join/#silvercat CBG (~CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
22:52.10jomojoCBG welcome back
22:52.18CBG:)
22:52.21CBGJust got a -16 on dub. ;)
22:52.32jomojosounds like fun
22:52.53CBGThig is, I was on the good team! :) lol
22:53.17CBG*thing.
22:53.29*** mode/#silvercat [+v CBG] by ChanServ
23:02.38brad2901gnurdux is coming
23:02.39*** join/#silvercat Gnurdux (~gnurdux@69.251.224.96)
23:02.47Gnurduxwhats silvercat?
23:03.09brad2901well..
23:03.32CBGheh
23:03.43CBG"The New HepCat" is how I would put it...
23:03.53brad2901well, yeah.
23:04.52*** mode/#silvercat [+v Gnurdux] by ChanServ
23:05.42jomojoGnurdux: at last we meet
23:05.52brad2901He's eating dinner :)
23:06.05brad2901He'll be back though.
23:06.07CBGMan, that makes me hungry!
23:06.12brad2901pf..
23:06.31brad2901~bzflist
23:36.28Gnurduxok back
23:36.40Gnurduxok so its replacing hepcat
23:36.42Gnurduxok :)
23:36.55Gnurduxis it basically a bzflag thing?
23:37.07Gnurduxis there a silvercat.cops group?
23:38.13Gnurduxif i edit the groupdb do i need to restart the server
23:38.28Gnurdux~bzfquery gnurdux.homelinux.net
23:39.19brad2901no
23:39.20Gnurduxok whtever
23:39.23brad2901/reload
23:39.24Gnurduxill restart the server
23:39.27Gnurduxoh ok
23:40.28Gnurduxdamn you broke my groupdb brad2901
23:40.34brad2901?
23:40.50Gnurduxit doesnt mention gnurdux groups anymore ;(
23:40.59brad2901I know
23:41.04Gnurduxwtf not?
23:41.04brad2901It's using diff names
23:41.10Gnurduxjust silvercat
23:41.17brad2901yeah...
23:41.26Gnurduxim not owner on my own server?
23:41.29Gnurduxhow is that?
23:41.37brad2901erm, hang on
23:41.39brad2901i'll fix
23:41.44Gnurduxno i will
23:41.49brad2901fine...
23:42.05Gnurduxfirst tho did you just take tho old groupdb and replace everywhere it said gnurdux with silvercat?
23:42.34Gnurduxbrad2901, ?
23:42.38brad2901mainly, yes.. and I changed a couple of things
23:42.49CBGso... Who is hosting silvercat?
23:42.51Gnurduxwhat did you change?
23:42.55CBGGnurdux?
23:42.56Gnurduxmultiple servers
23:42.57brad2901I added the EVERYONE and VERIFIED groups
23:43.00Gnurduxim hosting the gnurdux server
23:43.03Gnurduxwhat are those groups?
23:43.09CBGOh. :/
23:44.48CBGSo "SilverFox" is the name for a Group of BZServers - each hosted by separate people?
23:45.37brad2901no
23:45.44CBGArgh... I mean "SilverCat" :(
23:45.45brad2901silvercat
23:45.47brad2901:)
23:45.50CBG:)
23:45.55CBGSo, how many servers?
23:45.56Gnurduxok
23:45.58brad2901It's the new hepCAT
23:46.03CBGand who in all is hositng?
23:46.06CBGlol brad
23:46.07Gnurduxwait...
23:46.09brad2901CBG, shuddup
23:46.13Gnurduxso im not part of it then?
23:46.28Gnurduxbrad2901 so im not part of it
23:46.29brad2901your hosting CTF overlord.
23:46.33Gnurduxoohhhh
23:46.48Gnurduxso different people are hosting different servers :)
23:46.55brad2901erm, yes,
23:47.00brad2901.*
23:47.07Gnurduxand im one of them
23:47.13Gnurduxcan we make them all green vs purple?
23:47.14brad2901uh huh
23:47.18CBGlol
23:47.23brad2901hehe
23:47.33CBGOh, so Gnurdux is the one I had to edit the Colored Hix Map for?
23:47.34Gnurduxgreen vs purple is fun !
23:47.36brad2901green and purple clash :P
23:47.41Gnurduxno they dont
23:47.44Gnurduxthey are opposites
23:47.47brad2901CBG, shh
23:47.52GnurduxCBG yeah prolly
23:47.52CBGmany people say that green clashes with the floor...
23:47.57Gnurduxhmmm
23:47.58CBG:D :D
23:48.05Gnurduxso i shouldnt do green vs purple?
23:48.09Gnurduxred vs blue?
23:48.09CBGeh....
23:48.12CBGits no biggie.
23:48.12brad2901your choice
23:48.29CBGWhatever.
23:48.30CBG:)
23:48.46Gnurduxwhat are the other servers doing?
23:48.51brad2901erm
23:48.54brad2901nothing yet
23:48.55CBGviper is red v blue. GU match servers are red v purp, dug is red v green
23:49.01Gnurduxok
23:49.09brad2901"dug"?
23:49.15brad2901CBG?
23:49.28CBGif you had blue/green or purp/green or blu/purp atleats you would be different.
23:49.33CBGoh, i meant dub :)
23:49.36CBGand ducati too.
23:49.37brad2901ah
23:49.57CBG*atleast.
23:50.04CBGI shopuld look at what I type.... :/
23:50.07brad2901gnurdux, also can you add "-autoteam" to the config
23:50.15Gnurduxyeah
23:50.17Gnurduxgood idea
23:50.19brad2901it makes it fair :)
23:50.24CBGEh. not always.
23:50.32CBGIt bases "fair on team scores.
23:50.48brad2901and.. cut down the shot count to 3 to reduce lag.
23:50.57CBGso, if ou have a strong team, capping lots, then all of that team leave except for one player, it seems that that team is still strong...
23:51.03CBGso no new players join that team
23:51.09brad2901oh well
23:51.13CBGso -autoTeam is floored.
23:51.18CBGargh. flawed.
23:51.20brad2901it was 7v2 today..
23:51.24brad2901that;s not good
23:51.28Gnurduxwhat there is a problem
23:51.31CBGwell... it depends
23:51.33Gnurduxwhat about Rogue
23:51.47brad2901Gnurdux, 3 rogues :)
23:51.48CBGdo you think your players will keep the teams even themselved, or not?
23:51.55Gnurdux5 you mean
23:51.55brad2901CBG, no
23:52.01brad2901err, yeah.
23:52.04Gnurduxwill autoteam ASSIGN rogue to anyone?
23:52.08CBGno.
23:52.09Gnurduxlike force it on them?
23:52.15CBGdoubt it.
23:52.16Gnurduxand if someone requests rogue
23:52.22Gnurduxwill autoteam give it to them
23:52.28CBGI think you have to join as a "Rogue" to be rogue.
23:52.32Gnurduxok
23:52.42Gnurduxso it treats rogue and observer as special cases
23:52.42CBGif you join automatic then autoTeam makes you red or blue
23:52.48CBG(or whatever colours you have_
23:52.49CBG_
23:52.53Gnurduxred and green
23:53.05Gnurduxhmm cna you all test gnurdux.homelinux.net
23:53.11brad2901ok.
23:53.29Gnurdux:)
23:59.02Gnurduxok restarted
23:59.08brad2901jomojo, groups are working now.
23:59.10Gnurduxone thing
23:59.23brad2901yes?
23:59.24Gnurduxthe OWNER group i killed on my server
23:59.45brad2901erm
23:59.49Gnurduxi dont think there should be a SILVERCAT.OWNER group
23:59.56GnurduxOWNER is for the server owner

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