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00:02.35Gnurduxif someone named ntwana just came on my server thats Khopz
00:18.19Gnurdux~bzflist
00:19.23brad2901second now :)
00:20.35Gnurduxlook on my server
00:20.39Gnurduxim leaving my cheater there
00:20.50Gnurduxand ntwana is on and hes the counselor from my camp
00:39.05CBGso, whats the latest silvercat news, folks?
00:40.37brad2901?
00:41.08CBGHow many servers lined up?
00:41.16brad29011 :)
00:41.16CBGWhat maps will they host?
00:41.24CBGlol
00:41.41CBGWhat maps will IT host?
00:41.54brad2901overlord :)
00:42.02brad2901which it is doing now
00:42.05CBGgah. sucky map. :P
00:42.13CBGTry Babel Gnurdux! ;)
00:42.17brad2901ugh
00:42.29brad2901that's at pythonian.com
00:42.33brad29015154
00:42.41CBGnot for long...
00:42.46brad2901why?
00:42.49CBGatleast, not with good bandwidth
00:42.54brad2901yes it is
00:43.01CBGtoo enxpensive. the owner posted on the bzbb.
00:43.07brad2901oh. :)
00:43.11CBG:)
00:43.14CBGbrb
00:43.15brad2901well then..
00:43.20brad2901tropicans server ;)
00:43.23brad2901k
00:44.05CBGlol
00:44.42Gnurduxwait
00:44.46Gnurduxim the only server up?
00:44.51Gnurduxlol
00:44.56Gnurduxthat is anusing
00:45.00Gnurdux~bzflist
00:45.10brad2901I didn't mean the only server
00:45.13Gnurduxwell it gas 15 people
00:45.17CBGthe only silvercat server
00:45.18brad2901has*
00:45.23CBG;)
00:45.43Gnurduxgnurdux is the only silvercat server?\
00:45.48Gnurduxlol
00:45.52brad2901im getting some sleep now
00:45.56Gnurdux:)
00:46.10Gnurduxwell gnurdux is doing quite well
00:46.17Gnurduxsome of the old hepcatters came on
00:46.22Gnurduxlike Tanksalot
00:46.23CBGg'night bradley
00:46.31brad2901"brad"
00:46.33CBGsleep tight now, dont let the BED BUGS bite
00:46.40CBGI said bradley, dead
00:47.01brad2901I don't like the "ley" bit :)
00:47.15CBGI know, Bradley
00:47.22brad2901I give up.
00:47.34Gnurduxbrad2901, are you named brad;ey
00:47.44brad2901well, yes.
00:47.53Gnurduxbut you like being called brad
00:48.00brad2901yes
00:48.02Gnurdux:)
00:48.08Gnurduxyou know whats funny
00:48.13CBGhttp://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/Locusts/Images/locusts_feeding.jpg
00:48.20Gnurduxthere is someone named brad in my group at computer camp
00:48.22brad2901" crum: i say not enought lag"
00:48.25Gnurduxyou know whats funnier?
00:48.33brad2901what?
00:48.34Gnurduxmy counselor calls him bradmin
00:48.38brad2901lol
00:48.48Gnurduxcoincidinces are strange
00:48.56CBGlol
00:49.17GnurduxCBG, brad is bradmin on my server when hes on bzadmib
00:49.26CBGyeah :)
00:50.24brad2901~dub
00:50.24ibotrumour has it, dub is a directory based playlist plugin that's meant to be fast, simple and with the kind of functionality you'd expect from a digital player. it's currently in kdeaddons/noatun-plugins. use it dammit
00:50.28brad2901grr
00:50.44brad2901~bzfquery dub.bzflag.org:5156
00:50.55brad2901~pimpi
00:53.20Gnurduxwhats dub?
00:53.46CBGa ducati league team
00:53.52Gnurduxok
00:53.52CBGthey ahve a few ducati style servers
00:53.57Gnurduxis it part of silvercat?
00:54.02CBGno
00:54.03CBG:)
00:54.08CBGnothing is so afr
00:54.12CBGonly you ;)
00:54.16Gnurdux:)
00:54.23CBGso, in theory: You Are SilverCat, ;)
00:54.23GnurduxCBG why odnt you host something?
00:54.32CBGI am on regular cable.
00:54.35Gnurduxsame here
00:54.38CBGplys my connection sucks.
00:54.41Gnurduxcable modem
00:54.45CBGIt just closes up randomly
00:54.50Gnurduxhmmm
00:54.52Gnurduxstill
00:54.59CBGplus I am on a laptop on a WLAN
00:55.07Gnurduxoh :)
00:55.14CBGand I could get bzfs to work on the iMac wired to the router
00:55.25Gnurduxyes you could
00:55.25CBGplus none of the machines are on all the time
00:55.30Gnurduxoh you couldnt
00:55.34CBGonly this iBook which i use...
00:55.36Gnurduxoohh
00:55.41Gnurduxyou use mac?
00:55.42Gnurduxnice
00:55.44CBG*couldnt. lol
00:55.45Gnurduxi use Linux
00:56.13Gnurduxpimpi
00:56.16Gnurdux~pimpi
00:56.31brad2901~viper
00:56.41Gnurduxbrad2901, why dont you host hix?
00:56.46Gnurduxwhat is ~pimpi
00:56.53CBGYeah
00:56.53CBGWe have a g4 imac, I have a G4 ibook, my bro has a G4 powerbook and we also have a g3 imac
00:56.53CBGtheres also a couple LC's or whatnot around. :o
00:56.55Gnurduxisnt THAT part of silvercat
00:56.55brad2901on crappy DSL? :P
00:56.58Gnurduxyah
00:57.07Gnurduxnot much worse than mine
00:57.11brad2901HIX is at gamesunited.de
00:57.16CBGpimpi = pimpinella
00:57.16Gnurduxit was only lagging cause of the shots
00:57.24Gnurduxso he has a server
00:57.48GnurduxCBG how old are you
00:57.53brad29018
00:58.05Gnurduxpimpi has 8 servers?
00:58.15brad2901no, CBG is 8
00:58.20Gnurduxyeah right
00:58.40CBGNo... Im 4.
00:58.49CBG:/
00:58.50Gnurduxwell im 13
00:58.53Gnurduxactually really
00:59.08CBG15. ;)
00:59.14Gnurdux:)
00:59.14brad2901err?
00:59.16brad2901CBG?
00:59.24CBGyeah?
00:59.28brad2901do you mean 16?
00:59.32CBGdamnit, you noticed!
00:59.39CBGI didn't.
00:59.41CBGI meant 16.
00:59.45Gnurduxok
00:59.49brad2901you forgot your own age again? :\
00:59.50CBGBut I am actually 16.
00:59.52Gnurduxnot much of a difference
01:00.05CBGCause 16 is lower than 15
01:00.10brad2901?
01:00.13CBGTheres 15 difference between 16 and 16
01:00.17CBG16 is 16 15
01:00.19CBG15 16
01:00.23brad2901eh?
01:00.24CBG>:)
01:00.31CBGI dunno... Im insane.
01:00.36CBGYou gotta stamp?
01:00.41Gnurduxstamp?
01:00.43brad2901stamp?
01:00.51CBGyeah man...
01:00.55CBGlike that red insane stamp...
01:01.02CBGyou stamp the back of ya hand
01:01.07CBGso you know ur insane
01:01.18CBGdont you ever watch the simpsons?
01:01.28CBGits the episode with MJ.
01:01.28Gnurduxno
01:01.35Gnurduxive never ever seen it
01:01.36CBGIt was on C4 today
01:01.38CBG6PM...
01:01.56brad2901CBG, your in UK - he's in america
01:02.05CBGeh, well, you in the Uk brad
01:02.05Gnurduxthey have the simpsons here too
01:02.09CBGLOL
01:02.16CBGyeah, but not "C4". :P
01:02.16brad2901C4 is prolly not there though
01:02.19brad2901:)
01:02.22Gnurduxyeah
01:02.26Gnurduxprolly not :)
01:02.59Gnurduxnever seen anything on it
01:03.10CBGbrb
01:07.43CBGAm I mad to make a ducati style map?
01:07.49Gnurdux~bzfquery gnurdux.homelinux.net
01:07.52Gnurduxno
01:07.54CBGSince Ducati style is always played on a random map....
01:07.56CBGlol
01:08.00Gnurduxoh
01:08.08Gnurduxwell i didnt know that
01:08.24CBGDucati Style == 2 shots, rico, no jumping, no superflags, CTF, random map.
01:08.30GnurduxCBG, if yoiu dont like overlord what mpa SHOULD i use?
01:08.31CBGThats what it is...
01:08.38Gnurduxthat sounds sucky
01:09.01CBGGnurdux: I dunno... but overlord is a popular map, I must be one of about 3 people out of hundreds that doesnt like it. ;)
01:09.12GnurduxGnurdux Style = 3 shots, rico, yes jumping, yes superflags, CTF, overlord
01:09.20Gnurduxyup :)
01:09.31Gnurduxis there a better map for 2 team ctf?
01:09.32CBGGood configuration.
01:09.41CBGI dunno.
01:09.59CBGThe most popular CTF maps seem to be Overlord, HIX and Vipers too castles.
01:10.06CBGso, stick with what you have.
01:10.17CBGPeople will be wanting a good HepCat replacement...
01:10.27Gnurduxand what maps did hepcat use?
01:10.41CBGIf you dont have lag issues, your server should be pretty busy all the time.
01:10.50CBGHepcat used Overlord, Babel and PillBox.
01:10.52Gnurduxi do have minor lag
01:11.04Gnurduxhow many servers did it have?
01:11.16CBG1 official.
01:11.21CBGIt rotated the maps.
01:11.22Gnurduxhepcat.org?
01:11.24Gnurduxok
01:11.29Gnurduxi went to it quite a bit
01:11.31CBGBut, I think you could just stay with Overlord.
01:11.37Gnurduxyes
01:11.38CBGOther servers have Babel and PillBox
01:11.43Gnurduxtho i will look into the others
01:11.48CBGok ;)
01:12.13Gnurduxapparently hepcat had 3 shots
01:12.19CBGI think so. :)
01:12.22CBGIf you REALLy want to spend years looking for other maps, look at the map sections of the bzbb.
01:12.22Gnurduxit certainly had rico when I was on
01:12.29Gnurduxnah
01:12.35CBGLook for links to ducatiwannabe's site and map-packs too.
01:12.40Gnurduxit had superflags
01:12.44Gnurduxjumping
01:12.44CBGOh, and check out RPG's Mapatorium
01:12.49GnurduxCTF which i like
01:12.54CBGyeah, I think your set up is pretty accurate.
01:12.58Gnurduxad sometimes overlord
01:13.30Gnurduxi wanna see if i like one of the other maps better
01:13.42Gnurduxcan one chaneg maps without rebooting server
01:15.42Gnurduxbrad2901, i see your server is running
01:15.55CBGno
01:15.59CBGyou have to restart it
01:16.17brad2901Gnurdux: yeah, just for a bit :P
01:16.25brad2901200 shot mayhem ;)
01:16.31CBGthere is a script someone posted on the bzbb that can automatically totate maps (and configs) for you.
01:16.42brad2901rotate*
01:17.01CBGheh.
01:17.12Gnurdux200 shots has superlag
01:17.18brad2901yup.
01:17.38Gnurduxbrad2901, where would i be able to find screenshots of babel and pillbox?
01:18.01brad2901gnurdux: can't you just go to the servers?
01:18.17Gnurduxhmmm good idea
01:18.17brad2901look for them on the server list
01:18.21brad2901they are both up :)
01:18.25Gnurduxwhich can you find them?
01:18.33Gnurduxwho else is running overlord?
01:18.50brad2901grassrootsportal.no-ip.org is babels
01:19.03brad2901not sure who else is running it.
01:19.05Gnurduxbtw try out Aloe
01:19.14Gnurduxits in /home/gnurdux/aloe-src
01:19.19Gnurduxits caleld a.out
01:19.24Gnurduxcd /home/gnurdux/aloe-srv
01:19.25Gnurduxcd /home/gnurdux/aloe-src
01:19.27Gnurdux./a.out
01:19.30Gnurduxthat will run it
01:19.31brad2901ok
01:19.39Gnurduxit can do things like:
01:19.42Gnurduxx = 5
01:19.52Gnurduxecho "The number is ", x, "."
01:20.00Gnurduxit even has string concatenation!
01:20.08brad2901:)
01:20.20Gnurduxto concatenate strings is ..
01:20.34Gnurduxit also has a function called num
01:20.39Gnurduxand input
01:20.41Gnurduxand echo
01:20.45Gnurduxand string
01:20.47Gnurduxand outp
01:20.49Gnurduxand bool
01:20.50brad29012:20am :)
01:20.53Gnurduxoh
01:21.04brad2901I'll check it tomrrow ;)
01:21.05brad2901cya
01:21.33CBGbye
01:22.22Gnurduxwait brad2901
01:22.29Gnurduxwhy did you change number of players allowed
01:22.37Gnurdux12 greens and purple and 3 rouges?
01:23.37Gnurduxi found a server tha says babel map clone
01:23.42Gnurduxit looks like overlord tho
01:24.06Gnurduxwas overlord a clone of babel?
01:24.21CBGno
01:24.25CBGdifferent maps.
01:27.26Gnurduxpillbox sux
01:27.27Gnurduxok
01:27.40Gnurduxcause the server that said babel clone was definitely using overlord
01:27.45CBGlol
01:27.51Gnurduxbut pillbox seems to absolutely suck
01:27.57CBGneh
01:28.08CBGyour opinion ;)
01:28.28Gnurduxmaybe not
01:28.36Gnurduxnit seems the server that said pillbox
01:28.40Gnurduxwasnt running it either
01:28.57Gnurduxbut pillbox isnt a ctf map?
01:29.26CBGit is
01:29.37CBGno jumping or rico or superflags.
01:29.42CBG3 shots.
01:29.52CBGmap in a kind of X shape
01:29.57CBGor rather a + shape
01:30.16Gnurduxwait no
01:30.19Gnurduxit does suck
01:30.24CBGlol
01:30.27Gnurduxthe other pillbox server wasnt usingi t
01:33.50Gnurduxok so overlord seems to be the best :)
01:50.57CBGim off to bed.
01:51.01CBGg'morning. ;)
01:55.41Gnurduxcya tomorrow
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05:15.05silverfoxhello.
05:15.10silverfoxibot, eh?
05:15.11ibot'eh' is synonymous with the american dirivative 'huh', but unlike 'huh', 'eh' can be used without making one sound like a freaking idiot. .  Western Sahara
05:49.02silverfox!ping
07:17.46silverfoxMost of the maps are set up at silvercat.tybox.net
07:17.55silverfoxjomojo just needs to go through and fine tune maps.
07:17.59silverfoxand configs
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09:26.50Pimpinellaoh, ic
09:26.54jomojoright
09:27.01jomojohas to be done by chan serv
09:27.22jomojoi should have been more specific and meaning what's the chan serv command?
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09:38.56_Manu_:)
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10:15.52Birdiesilvercat server is up now with babels and overlord rotation but the global groups with cops/admins/owners arent put in yet?
10:19.06jomojono they are not
10:19.32jomojoBirdie, I am afraid there is a snag, I can edit the group, but I am unable to save it.  
10:19.43jomojofor the moment.  it should be fixed soon
10:19.51jomojoprobably by tomorrow night
10:19.55ToughShooterIs there some final webspace where I put the stuff I made until yet up?
10:19.58jomojofor me
10:20.06jomojonot yet
10:20.12Birdiejomojo: ok thx
10:20.38jomojomenotume will be hosting it.  He won't be back until tomorrow. I believe.. it may be friday before we get it up
10:21.04jomojohopefully all will be fine until then
10:35.07ToughShooter~spell shedule
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10:50.09*** mode/#silvercat [-o brad2901] by brad2901
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11:50.39CBG<php echo 'Hello Everyone!' ;
11:50.46CBG?>  (oops)
11:50.54brad2901o.O
11:51.11brad2901<?php not <php :)
11:51.21CBGgah... typo.
11:51.40ToughShooterif shorttag is on, <? should be sufficient
11:51.49brad2901well, yeah ;)
11:51.49CBGBut, it often isn't ;)
11:51.57brad2901it is on by default
11:51.58CBGAnd iirc it isnt on my server.
11:51.58ToughShooterI hope it is off
11:52.06brad2901why?
11:52.08CBGIts better to stick to the habbit of the full tag, ;)
11:52.11ToughShooterit doesn't mix well with XML
11:52.20brad2901oh :-)
11:52.24_Manu_CBG, better try python ;-p   print "Hello Everyone"
11:52.35CBGlol _Manu_
11:53.09brad2901Suddenly people start to talk when CBG arrives
11:53.13ToughShooterBetter involve ghci, it is a better language ;)
11:53.26CBGPeople LOVE me bradley.
11:53.34brad2901er, sure.
11:53.46CBGBrad'2901'ley. ;)
11:54.01*** part/#silvercat brad2901 (brad@brad2901.user)
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11:54.19*** mode/#silvercat [-o brad2901] by brad2901
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11:54.29_Manu_/kick brad2901 rejoiner ;-p
11:54.35brad2901hehe
11:54.46ToughShooterPrelude> print "hello world!"
11:54.46ToughShooter"hello world!"
11:54.46ToughShooterPrelude> print 'hello world!'
11:54.46ToughShooter<interactive>:1:7: lexical error in string/character literal
11:54.57CBGOoooh. brb.
11:55.10ToughShooterFunctional programming is a fine thing
12:04.39ToughShooterHas anyone screenies from Babel and Overlord as well as from Pillbox?
12:05.02ToughShooterAlternatively I would like to get the maps
12:31.37Pimpinellasome silbercat servrs are already up
12:31.50Pimpinellasilvercat servers
12:32.01jomojoactually i believe all that will be up are up
12:32.19brad2901they are still using the hepcat groups though.
12:32.22Pimpinellaat least the requested
12:32.33Pimpinellayeah, working on that
12:32.40brad2901:)
12:38.05PimpinellaToughShooter: if you make screenies there, change the messenge board tab to have to servermessenge removed
12:38.17Pimpinellayou'll see why ;)
12:42.08ToughShooterk, I'll browse the list
12:43.25CBGThe true grassroots babel was the one with the platform in the middle with the tele on it.
12:43.32CBGPerfect for GM camping. :)
12:48.08ToughShooterI know but I hate this platform at middle...
12:48.36CBGI hate babel without it.
12:49.25PimpinellaGM camping ruins every map unless is's limited to max 10 shots
12:50.04CBGso, limit the shots on GM.
12:50.20CBGthats how the original grassroots babel was. and it was very popular.
13:08.40jomojofor the mean time we will stick with the maps we have been using on hepcat
13:09.01jomojoi am just trying to get silvercat up and running smoothly
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15:54.13silverfoxjomojo, you're able to edit "a group" but unable to save.  Is this on bzbb?
15:54.43orangehey folks
15:56.15CBGhi :D
15:58.17silverfoxhello.
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16:11.47ToughShooterHi Birdie + silverfox
16:11.58Birdiehey thoughshooter
16:12.06CBG:/
16:20.32silverfoxallo.
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16:23.24silverfoxjomojo, can you add BIYA as an admin?
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16:25.35silverfox~weather MFR
16:25.47orange~weather KMFR
16:25.56silverfoxthat's right.
16:26.16silverfoxdoes that have aero nav points too?
16:26.52silverfox~weather KLAX
16:27.16silverfox~bzf silvercat.tybox.net:5001
16:27.24silverfox~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net:5001
16:27.37silverfox~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net:5154
16:27.41silverfox~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net:5153
16:28.05silverfox~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net:5155
16:28.09silverfox~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net:5156
16:28.10ToughShooterPlayers don't come when there is no one else
16:28.16silverfox~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net:5157
16:28.20silverfox~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net:5158
16:28.26silverfoxjust making sure they were open.
16:28.47silverfoxsomeone ought to put a few bots in there.  Or when there is enough of us online here, we all go at once for a bit.
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16:29.00orangethat's the ticket... all of us go sometime... perhaps tonight?
16:29.06silverfoxsure.
16:35.31silverfoxthat was delayed...
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16:37.18ToughShootersilverfox: What do you think of http://silvercat.pimpi.org/
16:38.20ToughShooterHas someone asked JeffM2501 to make a silverfox subforum at bzbb?
16:40.10silverfoxcool.
16:40.20silverfoxWould you like the original source for the website (minus the forums) ?
16:40.52ToughShooterIt's redone a completly different way (look at the source)
16:42.02silverfoxI know. Would you like the original source to cannabalize?
16:42.09CBGoverlord screeny looks wrong
16:42.29CBGand babel map is missing the camping platform in the middle
16:42.35ToughShooterThat was flicker
16:42.43CBGcya later
16:43.05silverfoxtake my name off of that, and put yours on there.  
16:43.30silverfoxanyone good with graphics?  We need to modify the logo
16:44.20ToughShooterCan we keep the cat but replace the text?
16:44.58silverfoxsure.
16:46.11ToughShootersilverfox: I'm only curious about the exact rules, are they going to be the same as before?
16:47.30silverfoxYou guys decide.  I don't care.
16:52.50silverfoxhttp://www.tybox.net/archive.zip
16:54.32PimpinellaToughShooter: we can have a forum, no subforums though
16:54.47Pimpinellai donßt think we actually need more
16:55.01silverfoxI agree
16:55.05ToughShooterThat was what I meant, an entry in bzbb
16:56.05Pimpinellaother servers seem to have private forums, i can't read any of them though
16:56.26ToughShooterYes, I'm in PeEpZ for example
16:56.52ToughShooterSo only a minority can read our stuff
16:56.59Pimpinellano
16:57.04Pimpinellait can be public
16:57.14Pimpinelladoesn't need to be private
16:58.12ToughShooterI know, but after you mentioned private forums with the term "seem" I just gave an example
16:58.23Pimpinellaoh, ic
16:59.01PimpinellaBirdie: ping
16:59.24orangeI always hated the version of the babel map with the extra platform and bridges
16:59.51Pimpinellasilverfox: have you talked with jomojo about file perms for group and confs?
17:00.21orangeand with rules, I definitely think we need published rules... it makes admin's job so much easier.
17:00.42orangethings like camping policy (which very well could be 'it is fine'), rejoining, cursing, etc.
17:01.18Pimpinellahttp://viper.pimpi.org/
17:01.22Pimpinellamight be a base
17:02.32ToughShooteror http://bzflag.dragon.org/rules.html although that is the public version, not the internal
17:05.41orangethe pimpi.org rules look pretty good to me
17:09.15Birdiepimpinella pong
17:10.19PimpinellaBirdie: would you prefer forums at bzbb or a separate one for silvercat?
17:10.31Birdiebzbb
17:10.52Birdiethe seperate one for hepcat wasnt that active and popular
17:10.54Pimpinellafine
17:11.00Birdiegive moderator to hepcat.owner
17:11.07Birdieand ask jeff for the forum
17:11.14Birdieeasy and i think its a good solution
17:11.31Birdiewant one with subforums? like for all, only for admins etc?
17:12.03Pimpinellayeh, i just don't want to override anybody, so i ask ppl for their opinion before i tell JeffM to create it
17:12.12Pimpinellai don't think we need it
17:12.29Pimpinellaand we won't get 'real' subforums
17:12.38Pimpinellabbl
17:12.56ToughShooterWell, you can add a second forum that is invisible to most people later, AFAIK
17:13.26orangecan a forum be accessible to more than one group, but still hidden from public?
17:13.32Birdiei would prefer a forum on bzbb, where one can add all admins in there, like discussing about new admins etc?
17:13.39brad2901orange: yes
17:13.47orangecool, so one public silvercat forum...
17:13.54orangeand one private for silvercat.{owner,admin,cop}
17:14.19Birdieright
17:14.23Birdieagreed completely
17:14.59orange"Pimpinella is root. Fear him." :-)
17:16.42orangeit might be cool to have a table of the various offenses and the actions, like:
17:17.03orange<PROTECTED>
17:17.14orangeCursing              X     X
17:17.25orangewell, I can't make it line up here, but you get the idea
17:17.33brad2901:)
17:17.53orangeAnd I keep using cursing as an example, though it's the one place where there was always much confusion in hepcat policy, imho
17:18.16orangePimpinella: impersonation might be one to add to your list
17:18.37orangeboth of regular players, and acting like an admin when you aren't
17:19.56ToughShooterYou can also play with exact admin callsign if you circumvent the list server
17:26.49silverfoxorange, its been fixed.
17:27.33silverfoxgriping about something filterred is dumb I think.
17:28.22orangesilverfox: what's been fixed?
17:30.13silverfox<Pimpinella> silverfox: have you talked with jomojo about file perms for group and confs?
17:30.17silverfoxsorry, pimpi.
17:30.23orangeah
17:30.40silverfoxmaillist is a good idea for admin issues.
17:31.13silverfoxWouldn't be a bad idea for users as well if there was any interest (creates a sense of ownership)
17:32.59silverfoxstill having some problems with processes that stay up when I svc -d, and Im not positive all logging is working yet.
17:33.51silverfoxhttp://www.tybox.net/bzflag/ for the original site.  Not that I didn't use relative URLs (which I always say you should!) so many of the links are broken because the of the site move.
17:34.08ToughShooterHow about a semi-moderated mailing list? Meaning posts by admins automagically accepted and ones by 3rd parties need to get hand-approved.
17:34.13silverfoxFeel free to reference, steal, plagerize, etc.
17:34.22silverfoxToughShooter, sure.
17:34.32orangemaillists are nice, but then you're keeping data in more than one place... namely, member lists, moderators, etc.
17:34.51silverfoxgood point.
17:34.54orangeif you use the forum, you get automatic synchronization of group membership
17:35.17orangeI personally like simple, even if it isn't perfect (which nothing is, of course)
17:36.06orangeespecially talking about volunteers running it, which means it wouldn't be long before they *are* out of sync, and will stay that way always
17:53.48silverfoxor new mascot: http://balin.pimpi.org/catpix/pic00581.jpg
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17:57.19ToughShootersweet
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17:58.43silverfoxwhich map do we work on getting up on the list serv?
17:58.59orangeprobably overlord/babel rotation
17:59.02brad2901overlord/babel
17:59.08brad2901beat me to it ;)
17:59.10orangeit's the most likely to be popular
17:59.20orangeeven if pillbox is better :-)
17:59.49ToughShooterGive me 7 shots
17:59.53orangeugh
18:00.05orangethen, silverfox, once that is popular, we can sneak other interesting maps into the rotation
18:00.18orangelike for one of the four-hour periods per day use a new map
18:00.24ToughShooterThat's how I'm best: Brute force direct attacking
18:00.36orangeas I heard someone call it, spray and pray
18:00.51orangebut 7-shot servers get too laggy
18:01.00orange3-shot overlord/babel was quite popular
18:01.32silverfoxless tks and requires a tad more precision.
18:01.45silverfoxI'm gonna drop a bot on bo
18:01.56ToughShooterbabel is difficult, that's why 3 shots fit well there
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18:08.38silverfoxanyone want to join me?
18:08.58orangeI will, in a sec, for a sec :-)
18:10.23orangedo you have hide admin on?
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18:25.40*** mode/#silvercat [-o brad2901] by brad2901
18:34.35birdieif you dont want it i can remove it:)
18:35.29brad2901I don't see the point of having 80% of the channel with OPs :)
18:38.14birdieorange ping
18:38.20orangeyes?
18:38.23birdiepls kick fantazee on proxs
18:38.26birdie7001
18:38.28birdieits a ghost
18:38.36jomojoi am heading in i can do it
18:38.38brad2901can't you /ghost it?
18:38.38birdiedont have kickrights there:(
18:38.44birdiedunno
18:38.56birdienvm its done
18:38.59brad2901:)
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19:11.50orangehey dmp
19:11.58CBGhi all ;)
19:12.05meacanhi orange
19:14.39CBGhmph :(
19:15.53meacansilvercat isnt related with hepcat, except it got same setup? (im wondering about permissions)
19:15.58meacanhi CBG
19:16.04orangemostly same people, dmp
19:16.08CBG:) hey
19:16.26CBGExcept, HepCat werent stupid enough to make me cop. ;)
19:16.49jomojoyeah but we need to add you name to admin list if wish dmp?
19:17.07jomojoyou were an admin before?
19:17.54meacanyes i was. But my desktop computer is acting wierd (well, it wont deal with harddisks anymore), so im not sure i can play at all :|
19:18.24meacanand i lost ALL my passwords :( I got a textfile with 100's of them .. all gone.
19:18.30jomojowell i added all the admins i have seen that have been active i haven't seen you in while
19:20.12meacanwell, vacation and uni kept be busy this summer.
19:20.56silverfoxyes, for the owner group.
19:21.02silverfoxhave hide admin that is.
19:21.19*** mode/#silvercat [-o silverfox] by silverfox
19:23.04jomojooh i got rid of hide admins
19:23.12orangehide admins causes issues
19:23.17jomojosilverfox, because it was screwing up a few other things
19:24.18meacanis there a website for this server too?
19:25.25jomojoas soon as meno gets back in town I hope to get one up
19:26.05jomojomeacan, do you wish me to add you back into the admin list?
19:26.32jomojoor do you wish to wait until your computer is fixed?
19:27.47meacanNo, no need to add me as an inactive admin :)
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19:28.00Gnurduxmy server went down today and i htink my comp rebooted
19:28.03Gnurduxits back up now
19:28.32GnurduxCBG any other serevrs yet?
19:28.50CBGGnurdux: Don't ask me, i'm just a cop. ;)
19:29.07CBGAsk silvercat, jomojo, etc...
19:29.37jomojoyeah all of the silvercat servers are up and running
19:29.46Gnurduxhow many are there?
19:29.56CBG14 iirc?
19:30.02Gnurduxwow
19:30.03Gnurdux:)
19:30.12CBGmaybe I imagined that...?
19:30.24Gnurduxprolly not
19:30.31Gnurduxwhos running them?
19:30.42meacanwhat is "replacement network" ? a network of hepcat like servers?
19:30.49Gnurduxsort of
19:30.54Gnurduxto replace hepcat
19:31.03Gnurduxlike im sorta replacing hepcat.org
19:31.10Gnurduxas im hosting  ctf overlord
19:31.21Gnurdux~bzflist
19:31.51Gnurdux~bzfquery gnurdux.homelinux.net
19:32.09Gnurdux~bzfquery 127.0.0.1
19:32.18Gnurduxso tims not hositng a server?
19:32.21Gnurduxwierd
19:32.35meacan.. and this network shares admins?
19:32.40Gnurduxsort of
19:32.45Gnurduxill show you my groupdb
19:33.50Gnurduxhttp://gnurdux.homelinux.net:8888/1
19:34.39Gnurduxlol
19:34.50Gnurduxmeacan, ?
19:35.08Gnurduxirssi
19:35.09Gnurduxhaha
19:35.12Gnurduxold comp?
19:35.16Gnurduxim on Xchat
19:35.40Gnurdux~bzfquery gnurdux.homelinux.net
19:36.07meacanGnurdux: No, My desktop crashed on me today. So i use my server for working currently. And i dont stall GUI on servers :)
19:36.12Gnurduxah
19:36.20Gnurduxi use the same comp for both
19:36.27GnurduxPentium 4
19:36.30Gnurdux2.8ghz
19:36.33Gnurduxim running debian arge
19:36.39Gnurduxsee i cant really afford 2 comps
19:36.46Gnurduxim only 13, this is a barmitzvah present
19:37.03meacanok
19:37.09Gnurduxactually
19:37.15Gnurduxim not really runnign srage anymore
19:37.23Gnurduxsince it got released i guess im running etc
19:37.25Gnurdux*etch
19:37.29meacanI wont maintain my server anymore, i bought a hosted server - then they can mess with the hardware
19:37.32Gnurduxetch is new testing
19:37.36Gnurduxlol
19:37.46Gnurduxwhat distro do you use?
19:38.10Gnurduxok meacan anyway
19:38.13meacanits too expensive both in power, hardware and inet to have one running compared to the hosted on.
19:38.17meacani too use debian
19:38.18Gnurduxmy server allows  2 sets iof groups
19:38.34Gnurduxgnurdux. groups
19:38.38silverfox~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net
19:38.39Gnurduxand silvercat. groups
19:38.40Gnurduxoh
19:38.51Gnurduxmeacan, connect to mine
19:38.57Gnurduxteam as "automatic"
19:39.31meacani cant run bzflag :(
19:39.38Gnurduxoh yeah...
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19:40.42jomojo5154 is down for a fox
19:41.30silverfoxI see...
19:41.33silverfoxnot sure why.
19:41.36silverfoxhold on.
19:43.10silverfoxYou foobared it.  ;)
19:44.05silverfoxits staying up now.
19:44.23silverfox5157 is still having trouble though.  Continually.
19:44.55jomojowhat's wrong with 5157?
19:45.42silverfoxnot sure.
19:45.58silverfoxits nearly identical to 5158 which works fine, but...  I dunno.
20:55.55Gnurduxanyeone here?
20:56.46Gnurduxwait
20:56.53Gnurduxsilverfox, IM hosting overlord ;(
20:56.57Gnurduxyou stole my server!\
20:57.05Pimpinella?
20:57.13Gnurduxhes doing overlord too
20:57.17Gnurduxnow everyones going to his
20:57.19Pimpinellasilverfox hosted it long time before
20:57.38Gnurduxwell why did brad associate me with this whole silvercat thing?
20:57.59Gnurduxwhat is the point of me even being part of silvercat?
20:58.15Gnurdux~bzflist
20:58.40Gnurduxsilvercat.tybox.net didnt exist yesterday...
20:59.05Pimpinellano, it was down since it ran as hepcat before
20:59.26Pimpinellaandcosmos asked to have anything named hepcat removed
20:59.29meacansilverfox was running hepcat.tybox.net, but i guess he changed it as cosmos asked people not to use the hepcat name (to avoid confusion)
20:59.33meacanask
20:59.36meacanargh even
21:00.30Pimpinellawell can't sey anything about it, i just want to see _any_ overlord server up
21:00.42Gnurduxwell now there are 2
21:00.48birdiei want to see babels:)
21:00.53PimpinellaGnurdux: you need to discuss this with silverfox and brad2901
21:00.55Gnurduxwhy doesnt his be just babel
21:00.59Gnurduxand mien just be overlord?
21:00.59birdielucky its a changing between overlord and bables
21:01.12Pimpinellait's overlord/babel rotation
21:01.30Gnurduxyes
21:01.35Gnurduxbut since there are 2
21:01.43Gnurduxwhy doesnt his become just babel
21:01.48Gnurduxsince mine is jsut overlord
21:01.57birdiecause it used to be like the way he is doing now
21:02.08Gnurduxyes
21:02.23Gnurduxbut since i somehow became part of this i expect my server to be used
21:02.54Gnurduxsince it is you guys fault that i am part of it its not fair to just suddenly make there no point in my server anymore
21:03.16Pimpinellawell...
21:03.34Pimpinellai have nothing to do with who runs what
21:03.41Gnurduxok...
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21:08.33Gnurduxwhat hepcat contest
21:08.38CBGheh
21:08.38Pimpinellato me it makes sense to have both up, babel and overlord
21:08.40Gnurduxbirdie, can oyu give me a link
21:08.44Gnurduxyes it does
21:08.51Gnurduxhis is overlord and babel
21:09.00Gnurduxbut if he does just babel it would make a lot of sense
21:09.07Gnurduxthen people coulkd choose either
21:09.14birdiehttp://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4345
21:09.26birdiethose are good maps to put up
21:09.48Gnurduxok
21:09.55CBGand NONE of them mine. :)
21:10.02Gnurduxthe only thing that annoys me is that you made me part of this
21:10.06Gnurduxor brad did
21:10.08CBGlol
21:10.12Gnurduxand then i learn
21:10.23CBGyou dont have to be part of it...
21:10.23Gnurduxthat there is already an overlord server part of it
21:10.28Gnurduxlol
21:10.30CBGbut I would want to be part of it if I was you.
21:10.43Gnurduxi do
21:11.03Gnurduxbut since you made me part it is your responsibility to actually give my server a purpose
21:11.25brad2901`i'll give it a purpose
21:11.30jomojolol
21:11.36brad2901`lemme find you a map =)
21:11.51Gnurduxa popular one?
21:11.56Gnurduxthat will actually ATTRACT people?
21:12.02brad2901`i'll try :)
21:12.02jomojoi am sorry if it was not clear Gnurdux, it was always our intention to put overlord/babel back up
21:12.08Pimpinellawe have to bribe loumal to make more maps
21:12.13Pimpinellalouman
21:12.21brad2901`heh
21:12.26Gnurduxbut i HAD overlord
21:12.38CBGPimpi: he hasnt made enough? ;)
21:12.42Pimpinellayou HAVE, no?
21:12.49Gnurduxyes
21:13.07Gnurduxi was under the impression that that was why you all wanted my server
21:13.10PimpinellaCBG: i never get enough of loumn's maps
21:13.32CBGPimpinella: yeah, but I can think of 4, off the top of my head...
21:13.43CBGso its not like you dont have any to choose from
21:14.34Gnurduxanything popular?
21:14.47Pimpinellamy top 3 of mapmakers it 1. louman, 2. louman and 3. louman :)
21:14.56CBGDitto.
21:14.58brad2901`lol
21:15.10Gnurduxare there any popular maps that would actually attracty people to my server?
21:15.16brad2901`Gnurdux: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewforum.php?f=64
21:15.20CBGGnurdux: they aren't too popular cause they have low FPS - because they look SO DAMN good
21:15.23brad2901`loads in there
21:15.44GnurduxFPS?
21:15.47Gnurduxwhats htat?
21:15.54CBGFramesPerSscond.
21:15.57CBG*second
21:16.06Gnurduxhmmm
21:16.08Gnurduxlegoland
21:16.11Gnurduxsoudns interesting
21:16.19PimpinellaGnurdux: you really need to discuss the case with silverfoy, and probably jomojo
21:16.27CBGThere is alos, bridges, island hopping and metropolis
21:16.29Pimpinellafilverfox
21:16.33CBGall are AMAZING maps...
21:16.33brad2901`I used to have this really cool map but now I can't find it =(
21:16.49CBGbut you never see them at the top of the list like OverLord, Hix, etc
21:16.57brad2901`must find DW..
21:17.24Gnurduxhmmm
21:17.29Gnurduxi could host hix
21:17.37CBGDon't.
21:17.39Gnurduxwhy?
21:17.42CBGGamesunited does that.
21:17.50CBGqnd its very popular.
21:17.52brad2901`what about the colorful hix?
21:17.54CBG*and
21:18.00CBGsame gameplay.
21:18.04CBGnot worth it.
21:18.04Gnurduxbrad2901`, you amde that right?
21:18.08brad2901`no
21:18.09CBGI say go with Overlord.
21:18.14brad2901`rimfus did
21:18.17brad2901`romfix*
21:18.23CBGRomfis made it, i edited it from 4 team to 2 team.
21:18.24brad2901`err, romfis
21:18.27CBGlol
21:18.28GnurduxCBG, there is already an overlord
21:18.32CBGOh.
21:18.36Gnurduxyes i jsut foudn your two team hix
21:18.43Gnurduxthats what the argument is about
21:18.47Gnurduxi am hosting overlord
21:18.53Gnurduxand then i find silverfox has one
21:18.56Gnurduxand everyones on it
21:18.56CBGoh.
21:18.59CBGoh.
21:19.03CBGbummer
21:19.05Gnurduxand they were "always planning" to put it up
21:19.19Gnurduxi htink ill go with the two team hix
21:19.24Gnurduxis that colorful?
21:19.34CBGor, you could always check out my maps. ;)
21:19.39brad2901`ugh.
21:19.42brad2901`:)
21:19.54brad2901`ducatiwannabe makes some very good maps
21:20.07Pimpinellai think metropolis could be kinda popular
21:20.14brad2901`yeah
21:20.24Pimpinellalouman hosts it now himself
21:20.24brad2901`another wonderful Louman map :)
21:20.29brad2901`ah
21:20.35Gnurduxlouman hosts it himself?
21:20.40Gnurduxthen why do we need another>
21:20.45Pimpinellabut he'll stop as soon as he has a new
21:20.57Gnurduxhe said so?
21:20.58Gnurduxok
21:20.58CBGhttp://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3615
21:21.02Pimpinellacould work with it though
21:21.34Gnurduxwait
21:21.47*** mode/#silvercat [+o brad2901] by ChanServ
21:21.53Gnurduxthats a topic on your map CBG
21:21.57CBGYeah. ;)
21:22.01Gnurduxnot metropolis
21:22.07CBGI know. :)
21:22.18brad2901http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4524
21:23.06CBGI have a cool, space map thats not released yet...
21:23.20CBGor my simple ducati style map...
21:23.27CBGI also did 2 MiniCTF maps...
21:23.28CBGheh
21:24.07CBGHere is a sneaky preview of the space one: http://www.kaziaz.com/stuff/MoonRaker.png
21:24.34Gnurduxthe rader doesnt work
21:24.42CBGHmm?
21:24.46CBGWhere is this?
21:24.57Gnurduxon metropolis
21:24.59Gnurduxhmmm
21:25.03CBGIt should....
21:25.05GnurduxCBG how about this
21:25.07CBGOr did Louman disable it?
21:25.09Gnurduxi will host your space
21:25.13Gnurduxif you give it to me
21:25.14Gnurduxnow
21:25.17CBGGnurdux: sure.
21:25.21Gnurduxyay
21:25.23CBGhow about: in 10 mins or so?
21:25.29Gnurduxok
21:25.32CBGthanks man! :D
21:25.34Gnurduxsounds good
21:25.37Gnurduxis it really cool?
21:25.42Gnurduxand is it really slow?
21:25.47CBGShouldnt be too slow...
21:25.52Gnurduxwait
21:25.54CBGI think it's cool - but I'm biased.
21:25.55Gnurduxhow many teams?
21:26.01CBGIts FFA.
21:26.04GnurduxFFA?
21:26.06Gnurduxhmm
21:26.07brad2901free for all
21:26.11Gnurduxim doing ctf tho
21:26.13CBGOk.
21:26.18CBGI can make it 2 or 4 team ctf.
21:26.23CBGWhich would you like?
21:26.24Gnurdux2 team ctf
21:26.26Gnurduxgreen vs purple
21:26.28CBGok :)
21:26.32Gnurduxthnx
21:30.54CBGaccept. ;)
21:31.27CBGor, shall I email it?
21:34.17CBGGnurdux?
21:36.37brad2901silverfox: ping
21:36.40Gnurduxemail
21:36.51GnurduxCBG, my dcc failed
21:36.53brad2901~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net
21:36.58brad2901oh
21:37.02Gnurduxmikey-soft@comcast.net
21:37.06CBGok
21:37.12brad2901I get: "Error connecting to server." :\
21:38.01Gnurduxcbg do you think i will be popular?
21:38.14CBGI hope so, but I dont know.
21:38.22CBGI once hosted it myself on my crappy connection
21:38.22Gnurduxi guess well see
21:38.32Gnurduxi htought oyu said its not released yet?
21:38.33CBGand about 4 people stayed and played a while with me
21:38.37CBGI was testing
21:38.41Gnurduxoh
21:38.42CBGit was only up for an hour
21:38.45Gnurduxoh
21:38.51CBGso only about 6/7 people have seen it.
21:38.56CBGemail Sent.
21:39.12Gnurduxi recieved it
21:39.16CBGCool. :)
21:39.35Gnurduxwait so now im only a cop ;( not an admin
21:39.37Gnurduxhehe
21:39.41Gnurduxguess they got angry :)
21:39.53Gnurduxor the cops group is new :)
21:39.53CBGEh.
21:41.01Gnurduxhow should i describe the map?
21:41.29jomojoi re arranged the cops
21:41.32Gnurduxah
21:41.36jomojoand admin
21:41.36Gnurdux:)
21:41.38Gnurduxok
21:41.42Gnurduxwell its fine with me
21:41.43jomojonobody is angyr
21:41.46Gnurduxi was just kidding lol
21:41.50CBGlol
21:42.02Gnurduxyou arent that sort of person
21:42.08Gnurduxat least i dont think you are
21:42.17GnurduxCBG how to describe your map?
21:42.22CBGGnurdux: I forgot to add -c to the options...
21:42.30Gnurduxthats not in the map
21:42.39CBGIt can be.
21:42.44Gnurduxoh
21:42.44CBGI meant to put it in but forgot.
21:42.51CBGI put other stuff in though
21:42.51Gnurduxwell -c is in my config file
21:42.56CBGlike the number of shots, etc.
21:43.05CBGI suggest you look in the map file at what I put in.
21:43.08CBGits nera the top
21:43.10CBG*near
21:43.20Gnurduxwait
21:43.25Gnurduxi dont want any options in it
21:43.41CBGThen just delete taht section of the file
21:43.53Gnurduxi just did :)
21:43.59CBGOk. :)
21:44.14CBGBut make sure you have -j on atleast. :)
21:44.19CBGand -sb and -fb
21:44.24CBGotherwise it will totally suck
21:44.25Gnurduxwhats -j?
21:44.28CBGjumping.
21:44.34Gnurduxi have that already
21:44.37CBGok
21:44.46Gnurduxi dotn have sb
21:44.50CBGyou need that
21:44.51Gnurduxwhat does it do?
21:44.57CBGso that you can spawn on buildings
21:45.02CBGtrust me, you need it. ;)
21:45.06Gnurduxok
21:45.13CBGand te same with -fb
21:45.18CBGflags spawn on buildings
21:45.21Gnurduxok
21:45.23Gnurduxi have -fb
21:45.25CBGok
21:45.27Gnurduxbut now im putting -sb
21:47.38Gnurduxare rogues a problem on your mao
21:47.44CBGNope. :)
21:47.48Gnurduxgood
21:48.35Gnurduxok
21:48.38Gnurduxi started out...
21:48.41Gnurduxand im stuck!
21:48.56Gnurduxi can move OR turn
21:48.59Gnurdux*cant
21:49.19CBGWhat?
21:49.19CBGwhats the server address?
21:49.27Gnurduxgnurdux.homelinux.net
21:49.47Gnurduxi know the prob
21:49.52Gnurduxthebase is under avcurtain
21:49.57Gnurduxand not on top of it
21:50.13CBGsorry
21:50.16CBG:x
21:50.39CBGhang on
21:51.18Gnurduxtell me the fix ok
21:52.01CBGhang on
21:53.04Gnurduxok...
21:53.07CBGbrb
21:56.38CBGGMail wont let me upload. :/
21:56.48Gnurduxtell me the fix
21:56.51Gnurduxno need to resend
21:57.14CBGneither will hotmail
21:57.15CBGwtf?
21:57.24CBGok. the fix is, find the bases in the file...
21:57.27Gnurduxok
21:57.40Gnurduxand one of the zeros
21:57.41Gnurduxmake what
21:57.55CBGchange position 300 0 0 to position 300 0 20
21:57.59Gnurdux20
21:58.03Gnurduxand same with other base
21:58.04Gnurduxok
21:58.06CBGmake the last number of the three "20
21:58.08CBG"
21:58.14CBGyeah, and the same with the -300 one
21:58.36CBGsorry about that. :(
21:58.44Gnurduxyay
21:58.46Gnurduxit works :)
21:58.48Gnurduxnp
21:58.51CBGcool :)
21:59.13Gnurduxwhy doesnt radar work
21:59.17Gnurduxit shows all pink
21:59.24Gnurduxwait
21:59.26Gnurduxi see you
22:01.39jomojoi am done for today.. any suggestions just leave me a private message
22:15.13GnurduxCBG,
22:15.20CBG:)
22:15.25CBGgimme a min
22:15.31Gnurduxlets ask in #bzflag
22:15.34CBGno
22:15.39CBGhang on
22:16.00Gnurduxphysics
22:16.00Gnurduxname bouncy
22:16.00Gnurduxlinear 0.0 0.0 10.0
22:16.00Gnurduxangular 0.0 0.0 0.0
22:16.00Gnurduxslide 0.0
22:16.01Gnurduxend
22:16.03Gnurduxthats what i have
22:16.08CBGit didnt work?
22:16.52CBGhmm
22:16.55CBGahhh
22:17.09CBGthats because you changed the name of the phy driver
22:17.19CBGso that physics driver is not being used on any objects
22:17.31CBGJust change the oblivion one
22:17.37CBGphysics
22:17.37CBGname oblivion
22:17.37CBGlinear 0.0 0.0 0.0
22:17.37CBGangular 0.0 0.0 0.0
22:17.38CBGslide 0.0  
22:17.40CBGdeath You fell into oblivion!
22:17.43CBGend
22:17.45CBGRemove the death line
22:17.55CBGand change the linear line.
22:18.16CBGto this: linear 0 0 10
22:18.21CBGbut wait...
22:18.38CBGmake it ->  linear 0 0 25
22:18.45CBGotherwise you wont be able to get back up
22:19.14CBGGnurdux....?
22:19.32brad2901~bzflist
22:24.39CBGGnurdux........
22:25.18Gnurduxah
22:25.18Gnurduxmake it oblivion
22:25.47CBGYour sure?
22:25.48brad2901I still can't connect to  silvercat.tybox.net:5154
22:25.57CBGbrad2901: why not?
22:26.04CBGerror?
22:26.12brad2901"error connecting to server"
22:26.22CBGehh. the same I get with your server.
22:26.29brad2901ic
22:26.41brad2901i'll try to ping it
22:27.24Gnurduxmy sercer doesnt boucne enouygh
22:27.25Gnurduxoh
22:27.29Gnurduxi c CBGi wasaway
22:27.35Gnurdux* i c cbg
22:27.38Gnurduxi was away
22:27.40CBG:) ok
22:27.48CBGmake it linear 0 0 25
22:27.51CBGthat should do it
22:27.51Gnurduxi can hear
22:28.22Gnurduxok
22:28.24Gnurduxlets goo
22:28.26Gnurdux*go
22:28.27CBGok
22:45.30CBGboucning get boring quickly
22:45.31Gnurduximasking in #bzflag
22:45.33Gnurduxyes
22:45.37CBGwhat about?
22:45.41Gnurduxwhich is whyi want arandomtleport
22:45.46Gnurduxrandom teleport
22:45.50CBGok
22:59.15*** join/#silvercat silverfox (vircuser@68-116-47-254.static.mdfd.or.charter.com)
23:01.39GnurduxCBG, ya know Cxx?
23:01.45CBGNope.
23:01.55Gnurduxi guess ill have to make this mode myself ;)
23:02.00Gnurdux*mod
23:02.31Gnurduxitll be a good challenge
23:03.11Gnurduxprolly the first mod made by someone under 15 :)
23:03.15Gnurduxto bzflag
23:03.28brad2901silverfox: ping
23:03.30CBGnope
23:03.30brad2901I can't connect to silvercat.tybox.net:5154 -- I get the error: "Error connecting to server."
23:03.35brad2901no
23:03.35Gnurduxit wont?
23:03.39Gnurduxoh dinner time
23:03.41CBGRPG_ has made a patch/plugin
23:03.41brad2901?
23:03.47brad2901so has wegstar
23:03.58brad2901I dunno how old wegstar is though ;)
23:03.59CBGwegstar is under 15?
23:04.01CBGlol
23:04.15CBGwell, JeffM2501 has made loads of stuff for the game
23:04.22CBGmaybe he is under 15? who knows?
23:04.25CBG</sarcasm>
23:13.48*** join/#silvercat Gokee2 (~gokee2@24-113-12-97.wavecable.com)
23:20.19*** join/#silvercat silverfx (vircuser@68-116-47-254.static.mdfd.or.charter.com)
23:28.36Gnurduxback
23:28.59Gnurduxwegstar is in college or grad school
23:29.04Gnurduxive figured that much out
23:29.10Gnurduxor possibly high schoo;
23:29.17Gnurduxhe doesnt like to reveal personal info
23:31.14CBGk
23:43.19silverfx~bzfquery silvercat.tybox.net
23:43.35CBG~more
23:43.35ibotmore is probably Displays the contents of the named files, one screenful at a time. Syntax: more (file1) (file2) ...(fileN). Where file1 through fileN are the files to display. Example: more papers/history-final displays the file papers/history-final.
23:43.44silverfx~less
23:43.44ibot. URL: http://www.flash.net/~marknu/less/ or more
23:43.44CBGeh
23:43.49CBGlol
23:43.56CBGwho stole you'r o?
23:44.02silverfxI removed it.
23:44.12CBGwhy? :S
23:44.16silverfxsilly to have so many ops here really.  
23:44.21Gnurduxyeah
23:44.26silverfxbesides, someone might think I'm in charge.
23:44.30CBGlol
23:44.34Gnurduxi like to just give ChanServ and bots ops
23:44.47CBGIt would be easier to /deop brad2901
23:44.50silverfxI like knowing its there if I need it.  ;)
23:44.51CBGthan to /nick silverfx
23:45.15silverfxheh... good luck
23:45.48*** mode/#silvercat [+o silver[a]] by ChanServ
23:45.57silverfoxargh
23:46.14silver[a]hehe...
23:46.35*** mode/#silvercat [-o brad2901] by silverfox
23:46.41CBGsee... easy :)
23:46.43*** mode/#silvercat [-o jomojo] by silverfox
23:46.43*** mode/#silvercat [+o jomojo] by ChanServ
23:46.47CBGlol
23:46.48*** mode/#silvercat [-o orange] by silverfox
23:46.48*** mode/#silvercat [+o orange] by ChanServ
23:46.50CBGlol
23:46.50silverfoxheh...
23:46.55*** mode/#silvercat [-o Pimpinella] by silverfox
23:46.57CBGfutile
23:47.02CBGoh, not with pimpi :D
23:47.04*** mode/#silvercat [-o silverfox] by silverfox
23:47.09silverfoxthere.
23:47.23silverfox"What happened to my @?!?"....
23:47.24silverfoxhehe.
23:47.38CBGlol
23:48.42blastOO7hehe
23:49.13meacanr:)
23:49.21blastOO7I crack me up.
23:49.29*** mode/#silvercat [+o silverfox] by ChanServ
23:49.31*** join/#silvercat CBG (~CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
23:49.37silverfoxrofl...
23:49.59CBGwhat?
23:50.03silverfoxdon mess with Texas.
23:50.12CBGhmm?
23:50.40silverfoxI was just chuckling at you getting disconnected...
23:50.57CBGthats funny?
23:51.04silverfoxnot to you I suppose.
23:51.13CBGoh, come to #kas to see my bot
23:51.35CBGplease....
23:51.36Gnurduxi am banned from #kas!
23:51.50Gnurduxwhat language is the bot in
23:52.28CBGheh
23:52.35CBGGnurdux: banned?
23:52.36Gnurduxwhyam ibanned?
23:52.41CBGgod knows
23:52.47CBGOnly I can ban there :/
23:52.48Gnurdux<PROTECTED>
23:52.51Gnurduxthatlooks like my ip
23:52.56Gnurduxdid you ban wegstar?
23:52.59CBGno
23:53.10Gnurduxjust unban that ip
23:53.20Gnurduxactually
23:53.24Gnurduxclear the banlist
23:53.31CBGtry now gnurdux
23:54.16CBGMuahaha.
23:54.21*** kick/#silvercat [CBG!vircuser@68-116-47-254.static.mdfd.or.charter.com] by silverfox (pow!)
23:54.24silverfoxheh
23:54.27Gnurduxlol :)
23:54.31*** join/#silvercat CBG (~CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
23:54.32CBGnow THATS funny silverfox
23:54.42silverfoxI got a couple laughs.
23:54.47CBGlol at Gnurdux!!!
23:54.49GnurduxMwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
23:54.58GnurduxCBG, what?
23:55.01Gnurduxmy server?
23:55.09CBG"its no special bot"
23:55.09silverfoxhow's the tybox server doing?
23:55.17Gnurduxits just purl
23:55.19Gnurduxtims bot
23:55.21CBGI know, i just tricked silverfox into going there so I could /kick :)
23:55.27Gnurduxjust a sweet blootbot
23:55.42CBGpurl == ibot == jbot == apt
23:55.45Gnurduxits on #botpark
23:55.47Gnurduxyup
23:55.52Gnurduxpurl is the one on botpark
23:55.53CBGand #bzflag, #bzleague...
23:55.56CBGeh
23:56.00CBGibot on #bzflag
23:56.03CBGjbot on league
23:56.38Gnurduxthis is really strange
23:57.25CBGwhat?

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